Big Clive did a tear down of several of these.

@derektodd4126

5 жыл бұрын

yea, nothing but led's.

@mrmobodies4879

5 жыл бұрын

ECO Can't bus saver.

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't know about that, but yes I see he did just recently. But it seems he didn't notice that there was actually no connection to any of the CAN or other lines due to the silkscreen.

@ElmerFuddGun

5 жыл бұрын

​@@michaeltaylor5886 - That's interesting that it goes to CNN but how is that "fake news"?

@dan_

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaeltaylor5886 Grow up Michael.

The most disappointing thing is that so many Social Media Platforms ALLOW these scammers to advertise with them!

@silasyount1785

Жыл бұрын

KZread is one of the main promoters of this product

@mariexichen1136

Жыл бұрын

Yep, that’s where I saw it!

@davem.9341

Жыл бұрын

Money talks

@markjenkins1454

Жыл бұрын

I got served a second advert while watching the debunk.

@Bootes_Void

Жыл бұрын

Well, it’s social media… did you really expect anything better from them? Lmao 😂

Just saw a KZread add for this. Good to see KZread is policing their advertisers.

@R.U.READY.

3 жыл бұрын

They’re to busy censoring politics and negative vaccine videos

@justinbastian2293

2 жыл бұрын

And lizard people, and conspiracy theories, and the right, and pro life voices.

@HEVTech1

2 жыл бұрын

You should be able to sue youtube for allowing blatantly false advertising leading to people getting scammed.

@AroAceGamer

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Went looking into it and found this.

@DJBassBoomBottom

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is the product label is not even the same as the name their calling it. First the ads said EcoFuel and now they say EcoBox but the product label has stayed EcoOBD2.

This was AWESOME! Exactly the kind of real electrical engineering source to debunk the scam! Thanks mate!!

These scans should be reported to consumer Affairs for fraud! My elderly mother-in-law bought FOUR of them. When she gave me one, I immediately had a scan alert in my brain. I decided to Google it and found your video. Thank you. My mother-in-law luckily saved her receipt.

@exiled_londoner

2 ай бұрын

But I bet the poor woman never got a penny in refunds. I got caught a few years ago by foolishly buying a couple of those 'miracle' air-conditioning boxes that supposedly cool down a room in minutes for a virtually negligible expenditure of electricity. Once I received the items my own (limited) knowledge of electrical engineering told me that they were not just useless but highly dangerous. The UK importer/distributor in West London didn't respond to any correspondence (neither did the Scottish firm who processed the card payment) and my local Trading Standards office just 'made a note' of the fraud but did nothing else as far as I'm aware.

Yes this saved me a fortune on fuel. Plugged it in and it fried my ecu. Now the car won't start and I don't need to buy fuel. Winner winner, chicken dinner

@seabliss22

2 жыл бұрын

😲

@dalebills9470

2 жыл бұрын

😆

@laurentmartinsky244

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@TheSupart91

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@jeffreyhughes5093

2 жыл бұрын

I bought one about 2 months ago for $46 and it hasn’t done shit to improve my gas mileage. Scam. Scam. Scam

plug a fuel saver into a electric car

@Rainbow__cookie

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@FxsX24

5 жыл бұрын

Tesla doesn't have the obdii port

@burnerjack01

5 жыл бұрын

It should be noted that electric cars and electric stuff in general, all run on smoke. Once you let the smoke out, you're SOL.

@burnerjack01

5 жыл бұрын

@@FxsX24 Does it have an Obi wan kenobi port? Or is that only on the Japanese models?

@craighalpin1917

5 жыл бұрын

I have and it's incredible. The car starts to produce gas out of thin air

Thank you sir ,you just saved me from buying one online for half price of 49.99 ,almost did ,but what stopped me was that there were no cons ,whatsoever in the reviews ,only pros ,so luckily I decided to check for cons ,and you were the first video that popped up, thank you for saving me at least 30% of my next long road trip's fuel costs "!

But it "destroyed" the energy companies. Haven't you noticed the windows boarded up at all of the gas stations?

@danrook5757

Жыл бұрын

In my hood all windows are boarded up and have bars on the doors

@daveyjones6465

Жыл бұрын

@@danrook5757 Lol

Thanks for your in-depth research, Dave! I ended up here because I wanted to research this fuel saver product which was advertised on KZread, and the claims seemed too good to be true. I think KZread is shooting themselves in the foot by selling screen time to scammers like this, because now we all have to question the integrity of ALL KZread advertisements. I don't think KZread can easily stop scammers from posting deceptive videos, but accepting advertising dollars from obvious scammers is an entirely different matter.

@arbee7327

Жыл бұрын

You should have known KZread doesn't vet its adverts just from the sheer number of 'spend 25 minutes 'trading' currency from home (preferably after your 6am swim in the swimming located on your mulilti-million pound mansion that you recently bought from trading at home'. The only adverts on KZread worth your money are the audio book ads.

I'm a mechanic and have come across quite a few scams. The most common one was the "tornado" which was a fin installed between the intake tube and the throttle body. It was supposed to create a vortex that somehow increased air density? But the worst one was a 2 piece magnet a customer wanted me to install on his fuel line. I've seen quite a few of these over the years and most claim to remove "containments", but this one claimed to stretch the gasoline molecules so that you needed fewer to generate combustion!

@samgab

5 жыл бұрын

Remember "Petrol Pills"?? :D

@samgab

5 жыл бұрын

And then there are those multiple grounding kits that put about a dozen extra large gauge cables throughout the engine bay.... All that extra grounding was supposed to make the engine run better and more efficiently.... "Improve Fuel Efficiency by 5% to 10% ; Increase Torque & Response; Stabilize Idling & Improve Engine Kick Over" Even though the entire chassis and frame of the car and engine block are all a solid "ground" in most cases.

@BlackEpyon

5 жыл бұрын

@@samgab I hate the curse of knowledge. I've taken apart enough engines to know better, but your average dumb-ass on the street doesn't have a clue how they work. EVERYTHING metal is grounded already. Unless there's corrosion, it's already grounded.

@ndelliott138

5 жыл бұрын

@@samgab I don't think we had/have those in the US, but I have been asked to add "lubricity enhancer" so someones oil. It claimed to make the oil "slicker" and reduce friction which made the engine run more efficiently. I don't remember the name of the additive, but it was sold on a infomercial and claimed a 20% gain in efficiency and the engine would "run fine" with sand poured into the crank case.

@JordyValentine

5 жыл бұрын

Nah the best are those corrosion inhibitors that wire up to the battery. I find those cars usually have more rust than ones without it installed lol, they do nothing.

Automotive Technician in the US here. Came here to see what was inside this specific model since I just had to tell a customer they got scammed when they brought me one of these to install on their vehicle. I let him know it's basically just some flashing LEDs and that equipment to reprogram an ECU actually costs thousands and you're not going to get any real fuel economy savings without other supporting modifications anyways. Big Clive did a great teardown on at least one of these as well. Thanks for the video! Gives me somewhere to send people when they ask about these ridiculous things.

@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC

Жыл бұрын

Hundreds* not thousands to retune but other than that absolutely correct sir!

Thanks so much mate for this great video. I just came upstairs to see my dad sitting at his Chromebook looking at an advert for one of these scammy products with his wallet sitting on the table right beside him. I had to interject telling him that those things were a scam and garbage and it took me showing him your video to get him to navigate away from the page. Kudos Mate.

It's probably better that it doesn't actually connect to your ECU, at least this way it can't do any damage.

@JordyValentine

5 жыл бұрын

It actually can, many newer vehicles wont log new error codes if something is plugged into the diagnostic port. Should you be driving and something goes wrong, you'll get no warning.

@arthurvin2937

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, from my past ECU programming experience it's rather easy to put your car on its knees via CAN bus. It's a matter of unlucky event of lost connection during EEPROM write sequence.

@tmmtmm

5 жыл бұрын

Likely that the car wouldn't know anything is plugged into the port because this thing is just stealing some power and not actually communicating.

@YeOldeSpellbooke

5 жыл бұрын

So, considerate scammers then?... :P

@JordyValentine

5 жыл бұрын

@@tmmtmm depends on the car, some may still detect it

The real solution is to go get yourself a 1970 Challenger with the big block Hemi and burn all the gas.

Thank you so much for doing what you do. Cause I'm so sick of the scamers

@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050

2 жыл бұрын

when caught, should have their wiwi cut off or poosai removed.

A commercial for the exact product you're reviewing right now played during your video lmao 🤣 😂

That chip is only soldered to the board so it wouldn't fall off.

@LEXXIUS

4 жыл бұрын

XD

I love the idea of selling a warranty extension for a bogus product.

@brendancarlson1678

5 жыл бұрын

It's guaranteed to still not work 2 years from now.

@pepper669

5 жыл бұрын

ROFL

For $20 more they should sell an adapter that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket.

You can thank the marketing for this product for bringing me to your channel. Whenever I find something too good to be true and I wonder how it would even work.. my BS meter is like.. I better see what other people are saying because surely some people have fallen for it. Thank you for the detailed review. The ad that I saw talked about a kid prodigy being expelled from a ivy league university over this because the oil companies offered him big money for the patent and he refused. Sounded plausible, but still suspicious. I feel bad for the folks that don't look into the validity of something before purchasing. In their defense though, it shouldn't be possible for something to go on the market for sale and not do what its advertised to do. How do we get these scams off the internet?

@LAW_LESS1983

2 жыл бұрын

Sad truth is most things are scams to some point at least. People will eat cow shit if you market it right so its just a matter of how stupid can we get. After all.... they are selling these to people, kinda like a fortune teller sells piece of mind.

@kristine7304

2 жыл бұрын

@@LAW_LESS1983 True. You can market anything nowadays. Especially anything related to weight loss. People are so desperate they'll try anything even if it makes no sense.

@CalikoTube

2 жыл бұрын

They have a web ad showing someone pouring Coke Zero into a gas tank with the caption “This Trick Saves A Ton Of Gas”. I knew it was a scam but I had to click.

@ruthtrefethen4171

Жыл бұрын

Get together, hire a lawyer and sue them NOW!😡🤬😡🤬

Amazing, I have not filled the petrol tank on my electric car since.

@thisismagacountry1318

3 жыл бұрын

But did you refill the blinker fluid?

@Kris_P._Bey_Ken

2 жыл бұрын

Grease the muffler bearings also and rotate the air in your tires.

You are fantastic! I saw their advertisement and my first thought was there is no way for the price they can work so I did a little research on line and your video [and a couple others] confirmed that it is just another scam from a bunch of scammers laughing all the way to the bank. Great video! Subscribing!

Well I'm telling you guys right now, mine worked like a charm. Saved me about 10mpg, on a fill up; it was great 👍. I drive a Camry and I drove it around the country on about 2 1/2 tanks & then things faded out & I woke up to realize that I over slept & it was time to go to work.

@danrook5757

Жыл бұрын

So u never had one ?

@netheriteleggings4955

Жыл бұрын

😅

I got these removed from Amazon. It took over two months, but I repeatedly made reports and now they’ve been removed.

Dave you broke it by not using your wireless antistatic wrist strap !

Yellow LED = Device it's scamming. Red LED = Scam confirmation. easy isin't it!

@LEXXIUS

4 жыл бұрын

Green LED = Device leeches power off the battery for scamming.

Thank you man. I worked with ECU/CAN software at Detroit Diesel before I retired. Thumbs up!

Reminds me of the "Turn your house wiring into a giant TV antenna" ads. The same thing can be accomplished by connecting a cheap wire from your antenna terminal to the ground or "low" side of your plug-in. Just make sure the plug's polarity is correct.

So many scams out there. You cannot reduce fuel consumption without losing engine performance.

@davidelmkies6343

5 жыл бұрын

Taken a bit further: If there were free performance/fuel efficiency the manufacturer would have optimized that already in the ecu. It's highly unlikely that manufacturers miss out on such desirable properties. They have highly specific powerful tools at their disposal to optimize. Those that do work do exactly what is mentioned above; trade performance for fuel economy, which is always a possibility.

@JordyValentine

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidelmkies6343 it depends, just off the top of my head I can think of a couple motors that had restrictions in the intake designed to lower the low end torque of the motor for what the manufacturer perceives as a better driving experience. Most factory engines will pick up more power through the range if they are tuned, hell Holden even sold it as an option. Send your car off to walkinshaw for some new badges and a flash tune

@RWoody1995

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidelmkies6343 You technically can increase economy without decreasing performance, you just trade long term reliability instead by leaning out the fuel/air mixture too much lol

@davidelmkies6343

5 жыл бұрын

@@RWoody1995 Technically true is the best kind of true. Forgot about that.

@burnerjack01

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily true. Today's fuel injected machines are much more powerful AND efficient than their carbureted ancestors. But then, that's just more advanced engineering and combustion technology, not some midway barker snake oil.

It works great on Solar Roadways ! If you get the Pro Version, a gold ingot will fall out of your exhaust every 200 miles. What a time to be alive. Thanks Dave, for introducing such top shelf electronic gizmos :) ...send with my Fontus self refilling Bottle™

@Taru1blm

2 жыл бұрын

You know a good place to get blinker fluid?

@chemache8571

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Taru1blm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know of one that makes your blinker fluid last 10× longer than all other blinker fluids

@robertferry623

6 ай бұрын

Where do I buy a screen for my exhaust pipe to catch the ingot?

At least this one doesn't actively trash your engine like some of those Scams. Great video. I'm glad to see what's inside.

I came to this as soon as I saw the ad for the first time today. I'm glad I stopped by. Surprised these guys haven't been stopped yet!

*_Your Milage May Vary_*

@graemearmstrong5484

3 жыл бұрын

@Enzo 1965 Which way

@burnerjack01

3 жыл бұрын

And probably will. But not to your benefit. Variables are funny that way.

Thanks, received one for Christmas and had no intention of letting something like this override my car's computer settings. However, I was curious as to whether it actually did anything. I appreciate your professional analysis.

Saw it on a weather app. With a picture of someone pouring a big bottle of mouthwash in the tank. Have seen other similar products that have a similar picture of someone pouring a 2 liter btl of classic coke in the tank. Wonder how many ppl have poured soda pop in the gas tank of their car??Darwin award!

I'm going to buy one of these, plug it into my electric car and go cruising the solar roadways of America. I'll be sure to keep a batterizer handy to charge my phone too.

@CODMarioWarfare

5 жыл бұрын

Okay, but EVs are actually good. Thunderf00t is wrong on that one.

@km5405

5 жыл бұрын

don't forget your fontus water bottle to keep well hydrated.

@timolson9722

2 жыл бұрын

u say this but ill bet within 15 years u want see barely gas cars being sold

I used to work at a automotive repair shop in San Diego and we would see these sorts of items in people’s cars and laugh at them. Most of the customers SWORE by them! ..... 👍

Saw an ad for this and immediately thought “alright let’s see what kind of scam this is”

They've got a KZread ad that comes up about this college kid who designed one too and its called eco max. Little diff design but same thing. I watched video then went to link and they wanted like 50 bucks for it but that was just the one day sale they had that happened to be the day I looked at it lol original priced was stated at 100 bucks lol. 😂 I'm like I'm gonna check this out to see what kind of scam this is and found your video along w a couple of others. One dude actually installed it, drive a few hundred miles and his truck actually started to drive bad and several engine lights came up on dashboard. Buyers beware of scams! Glad I saw your video! Excellent work!

Would be cool to read the micro's rom and disassemble the code. I wonder how much work they put on the light show

it is materially impossible for a device connected to the OBD2 port to control fuelling and other parameters (eg. turbo pressure) in real time. You can remap VIA the OBD2 port but that is very very different indeed. The OBD2 protocol and other associated CANBUS protocols are for diagnostic and service functions. They are not real time protocols for the purposes of modifying the engines base and overlay maps during running.

@duanepeppel4543

6 ай бұрын

How do you explain why mine works?

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase closely associated with P. T. Barnum, an American showman of the mid-19th century, although there is no evidence that he actually said it. Early examples of its use are found among gamblers and confidence tricksters.

I'm just now seeing this thing for the first time, and I always come to youtube looking for reviews for various things (I didn't see this on one of those "scam websites" otherwise I wouldn't have bothered looking for reviews). Your video was the one that looked the most inviting! I'm so-ooo glad I chose your video to watch.... Wow! you're in depth demonstration to debunk the validity of this device was amazing and so thorough! & I 100% believe you know your stuff & you are super smart! Thank you so much! You are so funny too, I love that! P.S. It blew me away that they didn't even solder those things together! Kudos to you!

Dave, a commercial for this blinker was on before your video came on!

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

Typical!

@roverboy01

5 жыл бұрын

I purchased it and then watched the video.

@lisa2stewart

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing!

What about a video on CAN BUS? I would really enjoy that

@perkele1989

5 жыл бұрын

CAN buses are really primitive and easy, and there exists lots of information on the internet on it if youre curious. Protocols on top of CAN can be more complex though.

And you can bet if your car is under warranty, it will be voided if the dealer sees that thing lol.

*This product actually save me on fuel money.* How? By not buying it and turning my car into a one ton paperweight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is the homeopathic version. They needed a stronger dilution to much active ingredient :)

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

I totally should have mentioned homeopathy!

@Mishn0

5 жыл бұрын

@@EEVblog Would masking off more of the chip's pins equate to greater dilution?

@johndaugherty7465

3 жыл бұрын

[Golf clap]

@theodiscusgaming3909

3 жыл бұрын

@Panthera M A N D E S S

@dorkthrone

3 жыл бұрын

@Panthera HAHAHA! "Here's a source! It's my own website!" Hahahahahaha!! "Penalize people who say bad things about homeopathy!" Stop, you're killing me! This is great!

Those things work great!!!! But only if you're driving your car on a solar freakin' roadway!!!

@vk6xre

5 жыл бұрын

It does control you HHO injection......

@ModernGolfer

5 жыл бұрын

Jim Grady - Heck, I'm gonna order one so I can save money when I drive my car from California to Hawaii! 😂

@mitsuoo1012

3 жыл бұрын

LOL WISH WAS POSSIBLE!!!

I literally got an ad for this product while watching this video 😂

Yo G, thanks for going through the trouble of exploring this to this level of detail. It’s a good look.

I fitted one and got 115% fuel saving! I had to keep draining excess fuel from my tank to prevent it overflowing!!

@jasonhawks2225

3 жыл бұрын

😭 LMMFAO 😂🤣😂😭🤣😂

@jasonhawks2225

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely the most UNDERRATED Comment on here. 👍 👍 👍

@marcopolodarts

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😭

@countonme9893

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

$5 on ebay is probably not a bad price for an OBDII connector ;) The micro with the lightshow is a bonus ;)

@masonjones5658

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest you are right the connectors are not cheap this is a good way to buy them I guess

@ginnydare13

3 жыл бұрын

I just got one for $11

Thanks for your video! For some, a detailed electronic test is the only way to convince them that this device won’t work.

I think it may have connected wirelessly to my car while you were powering it up. I'm now saving fuel.....

@user_namehere

4 жыл бұрын

It definitely did.. It's very sophisticated technology. Everytime I start my car I turn this video on so it can connect

This device just started popping up on my Facebook feed. It reminds me of the magnets you were supposed to put on your fuel line going into your carburetor back in the day. They would "rearrange the molecular structure of the fuel" and increase your fuel economy!

I got 2 of these for about $15 shipping. Both were sent in a vanilla envelope. After seeing this video I decided it was a scam and I told the company I wanted a refund. They said that I could not get refund and then I was told that I was signed up for some buying club and there was nothing on the statements They had billed my credit card for $63 and were going to charge me another $110 but they were able to cancel the buyers club. I told the person that I did not see anything about signing up for a buying club. They would not reimburse me for the $63. I disputed both charges with my credit card company and after a few weeks of investigating I got reimbursed in full for both the fuel savers and the buyers club.

All i can say is thank you for using your knowledge for good and not evil.Thank you for debunking...loved the BULER referece aswell.👏👏👏

I just saw this advertised on Facebook, thanks for doing a teardown of it, good to know! :)

It improves traction control. It weighs your car down.

@TheSmartLawyer

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it looks very heavy

For a second I thought it might be real, then I realized it is in the best interest for the manufacturers to make their cars as fuel efficient as possible, as a marketing point. So either you did get better fuel economy but at the detriment of something else, or you didn't get better fuel economy. The light show makes me think of those fake TV boxes people would put by a window so people would think someone was home and not break in. The fake TV box would flash colored LEDs in seemingly random patterns. Thanks for going over this product. Wow, I just realized this tare down was _5 years_ ago. I guess you can't stop scammers. I just saw an advertisement for this device today. Sad.

Take care folks. They’ve started advertising again - touting the current “cost of living”.

na dave, you bought the cheap $5 fake, you have to shell out the 75aud or whatever it was for the real deal ;P

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously!

@johnhandcock3242

5 жыл бұрын

@@EEVblog I bought the $75 one 6 months ago. It has already paid for itself.

@bland9876

5 жыл бұрын

Someone will see this video and legitimately think what you just posted he didn't use the official one so obviously he got a fake the official one works though

@shakalpb1164

5 жыл бұрын

XD

@pqrstzxerty1296

5 жыл бұрын

Always buy the genuine scam products for that special feeling

Big clive covered this, I don't know who big clive is, but I'm glad that everyone let me know that he covered it.

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@bigclivedotcom

5 жыл бұрын

His channel's rubbish. Dave's is much better.

@B0MYT

5 жыл бұрын

bigclivedotcom EXTRA LOL

@God-CDXX

5 жыл бұрын

@@bigclivedotcom glad to see you here

@Chrisamic

5 жыл бұрын

Big Clive is King, or Queen. Depends, ya know? ;-)

My main concern when connecting this device was less that it was a scam, but more that, if connected, it could destroy the electronics in my Highlander. Thanks for the humorous review of this scam. We got this FuelSave device from a friend as a gift and I told my wife that if it was that easy to improve gas mileage, that the manufacturer of the vehicle would have done so as any improvement in gas mileage helps to sell the vehicle and make it better in the buyer's eyes. Thus, it is illogical to have a small device "correct" what a manufacturer could not manage on their own vehicle.

Thank you for the video, was tempted to get one , but after this , I'm going to put £12 of petrol in my car , instead of buying a Turd With a flashing light on it . Hi from UK .

I know a company that had their CAN terminator resistors made by the lowest bidder, who didn't realize that the two leads of the resistor shouldn't touch. Yes, some of their "resistors" were merely jumpers and there was a massive effort to find and correct these. I'd like to say this company changed its ways and started listening to its engineers, but of course, we all know that wasn't going to happen and they continued to screw up in similar ways long afterward.

The fact the domain was registered through nameCheap is a damn good clue its a scam.

As I watching the commercial I thought "Wow...ALL of the car companies use the SAME fuel ignition software? Huh. Imagine that."

@boneseyyl1060

2 ай бұрын

And how do car companies make money off of fuel sales? Wouldn't it be the petro industry suing the engineering genius? Why would car companies want their cars to use more fuel when we all know the government wants them to use less.? I can't imagine that anyone would be stupid enough to believe this story, which seems to bring in a new engineering genius every week to design it. Hey what about the last guy that designed this, shouldn't he be suing this latest guy for designing the exact same thing? My head hurts now.

Thank you for your research and information regarding this, in these crazy-fuel-price-times, I wanted to believe but was wise enough to watch your film. Many thanks again

I purchased a device similar to this that allows you to clear fault codes and monitor engine sensor outputs. It works as advertized, cost less than $10

Mine said "Cures Erectile Dysfunction, Too!" on the package. But, I couldn't figure out how to get that egg shaped thing into the OBDII port.

What a coincidence the ad for this thing came up after the video ended 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Thanks for your precious time and spreading awareness. Bless.

This is up there with the corrosion protection devices for cars that were being sold a few years ago. The claim is they worked by a mechanism along the lines of impressed (anodic or cathodic) protection. Downside is even if the device worked the vehicle would have to be fully submerged in water, which would make driving it tricky.

@zoe-leesweeny8625

Жыл бұрын

Lol.. i bought a car about 12yrs ago with one of these rust protection packs?? Wow

I legitimately work on this stuff. Everything you said is practically correct but to expand on what you said, it's impossible to purchase anything that plugs into a CAN bus and auto learns like it claims. Each automobile manufacturer has individual ECUs that are specific to them, the car, and a number of other variables that are simply not released to anyone outside the company. Folks who reverse engineer an ECU are basically reverse engineering something called XCP. XCP is, essentially, a memory map inside the ECU where variables are stored and no two ECUs have the same memory map. There is no industry standard that states, for example, all auto manufacturers have to use some standard memory map. Hope this helps to squash the bullshit. Keep calling them out Dave!

@DFX2KX

5 жыл бұрын

I was about to say "Wait, don't you have to replace the ECU with a programmable one? or at least remap the stock one? And can't leaning out the mixture damage the engine without other adjustments to accommodate??"

@Plexico41522

5 жыл бұрын

@@DFX2KX Leaning out a fuel mixture is pretty pointless and can be damaging. additional fuel economy by programming is usually achieved by cutting back on emission settings. limiting throttle plate action (example if you limit the throttle plate of a car to say 85% itll have reduced power but likely save you a bit of fuel. or limit it based on rpm say under 3000 rpm it only ever opens to 50%(most manufacturer does this to some extent)) another way is to adjust shift points in a automatic transmission because basically the more time spent in higher gears the less fuel the car will use. but also the less responsive it will be. pretty much all things that you can control while driving the car if you think about how far your pushing the gas peddle. now real reasons to reprogram a car would be if you added major performance parts like changing the cam or adding a super or turbo charger, you can disable some emissions things to gain more power. (which should only be done if its legal where you live) a big one for dodge is disabling the mds which in my opinion only really helps if your doing a lot of idling and disabling the limits on low rpm throttle action. this while it doesn't actually add any top end power. makes a car a lot more responsive.

@BurntTransistor

5 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but each time the ECM software changes, the memory mapping changes as well. Additionally, you can't just "change" variables/memory in the ECM via CAN. OEMs lock it down for obvious reasons. Imagine if you could plug a CAN tool into the OBD2 port on someone's vehicle and start messing around!

@revealingfacts4all

5 жыл бұрын

@@BurntTransistor not always true. ECUs create a sort of virtual memory map so the XCP programming or interface can stay unchanged. But, you yes, you are correct there is no garuntee that the virtual address map will stay fixed

Thank you. Just, thank you for reassuring me that I’m a gullible donut when it comes to saving a few quid. I nearly bought this devise then thought I’d check it out. Thank you! How is this aloud to be sold on Amazon? How can every review on Google give it the thumbs-up? Please…I really don’t need an answer. I know. I’m really quite new and very naive to the internet.

I was given one of these and I did a little teardown myself. The only connections it has to the OBD-II port is chassis ground and +12VDC. Other than power and ground, it doesn't connect to the car in any way whatsoever. All it does is run blinking LEDs. This is a scam for sure. And not all cars with OBD-II uses CAN. My car uses PWM.

the same people who fell for this scam are probably the same people who fell for SOLAR FRICKEN ROADWAYS

@basshead.

5 жыл бұрын

or electric cars

@dphorgan

5 жыл бұрын

Thunderfoot fan?

I bought one, didn't even have to plug it in and I now get 500mpg! 10/10 would recommend!

@patrickkuchirka57

4 жыл бұрын

Your dumb

OMG right in the middle of this video KZread inserted the actual ad for this scam product.

No wonder the inventor got fired from his job 3 days later 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Also the way they reduced the BOM is incredible, only 2 different resistor values, so not sure why they bothered with the caps on the regulator. I am pretty confident that their margin even on the 5$ ebay model is around 50-70%

I bought 2 of eBay and got them last week .. the latest version has absolutely nothing on the board more than 3 LEDs, voltage regulator and an 8 pin chip to blink the LEDs .. I just wanted to know how low they'll go .. I got my money back.

Love the Crocodile Dundee knife to open packages. 🤣

Glad I found you. Had neither the knowledge or expertise to analyze this on my own. Thank you

These are my fave type of videos. Most people know these types of devices are bullshit but seeing you do the tear down and showing how they do or don’t work is fascinating to say the least. Great consumer advice too, because I know people silly enough to fall for it and hand their hard earned over.

@5crassrocker

2 жыл бұрын

desperate people. shame preying on people who probably need more money

@lowkeywun878

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@rswow

Жыл бұрын

O come on. Have some heart. I mean, how can an invention invented at it seems the same time by two DIFFERENT people ("James Dawson" as per 1st video, "Christian" as per 2nd video, with different credentials ("engineering student" vs "ex-programmer" who "worked in the ecology department ") and oil-company fiascos ("an oil company approached offering millions for the rights...big oil companies are fighting to sue it into oblivion" vs. no such offer + "sued by two big oil companies") and that ended up with the exact name and design and color NOT be magical? I mean, think of the odds of two inventing the same thing! Believe in magic. It's got to work man. Buy it! My guess is it got produced in parallel universes by 2 different youths; what's your guess? Transcripts & video links to follow.

So, this is just a fancy led flasher!

*THANK YOU* sooo much for your excellent review!!! I saw a slick add for the Eco Optrima device on KZread and was curious enough to go to their website to find out the price. Then I Googled if it's a scam and I found your video. Thanks for saving me $50 on a useless crappy device! I appreciate your public service! 👏🙂

Thank you for shining some light on this, hope as many get to see this video as possible and avoid being scammed. And I still think there should be some governing body that monitors and fines scammers.

@mariexichen1136

Жыл бұрын

I always Google reviews for these suspect products. There were no credible review sites. That should be the first clue.

Thank You for us who don't know how to test things like you do!!!!! and save us from awful scams!

Where's the Federal Trade Commission when we need them?

Wow, I've just found this after opening up one of these units myself. Incredibly the one I'm looking at has one half the components and there's not even a single comms line connected, just power and ground to flash the lights..... I guess they needed to improve their profit margins!

Thank you for making this video cause I was about to order one next week and now I’m not and knowing it is a scam makes me feel better that I am not going to waist my money that I don’t have to waist so thank you so so much keep these videos coming

How about putting some bodge wires from the chip pins to where they're "supposed" to go, and see if it does anything different?

@drcpaintball

5 жыл бұрын

it does, it fucks up your onboard communications

@EEVblog

5 жыл бұрын

It can't because of the 10K drivers

@cammo275

5 жыл бұрын

@@EEVblog try it with bypassing the 10k resistors

@scottfirman

5 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly what I would do. Also probably short out my ECU in my vehicle.

@RealNovgorod

5 жыл бұрын

Those pins are unused GPIO or ADC (or just NC) pins of the µC, which is programmed to only blink some LEDs. Even if they're stuck on high, it shouldn't do anything to the bus due to the 10K resistors. It would be more interesting to guess the µC type based on the (partial) pinout and try to download the firmware.

The short answer: "ALL 'fuel savers' are bullshit. If that were not the case, car manufacturers would include them or be mandated to do so." If it sounds too good to be true...

@burnerjack01

3 жыл бұрын

@Panthera The automotive industry is insanely competitive. The various departments, engineering, styling, etc. are under intense pressure to gain a market advantage. Mileage is *SUPER* important to consumers, investors and governments alike. They would jump at the chance to be able to brag about a 4mpg advantage over the competition. Diptane? what's that cost? What does it do to O rings and seals? What by-products of combustion does it produce? Humbug. You can run a car off of water too, if you add prussic acid. A really, really bad idea, by the way.

I ordered one and once I was made aware of the scam, I contacted their customer service for a refund. Fortunately, I ordered through Pay Pal and was immediately sent a refund. Whew. (They said they would give me a further 30% off if I didn't cancel but I passed on their generosity - a scam is a scam!).

I love how the "college student" they showed in the ad is the exact same as in the portable AC ad

This is a good product to show Sunk Cost Fallacy, just like fuel magnets. I see a lot of people fall for these and it's hard for them to come to grips that the just got scammed, but if you just tell them that these crooks prey on people who don't understand how these things work, they take it a lot better. Great vid Dave. Keep up the good work.