I think riddle story's DM's freakout was general narcissism. He bragged about how great his campaign would be, and when he was caught out for plagiarism of the riddles, I guess he thought it would call into question the rest of his campaign? One thing a narcissist can't handle is having their ego prodded in any way.

@mrroboshadow

Жыл бұрын

well plagiarists rarely think they'll encounter the creator of whatever they're stealing honestly imagining this back in day, a guy gathers a few strangers to play D&D and tell them of this awesome new setting he's created called Greyhawk and at his table is just an amused Gary Gygax

@bradwolf07

Жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head there

@akun50

Жыл бұрын

How much do you want to bet they basically stole all of their content, but from different places to hide that fact?

A monk shattering dragon skulls with a staff sounds a lot cooler than the usual dragon slaying affairs.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was a spear. Still viable for 5e monks.

@DHTheAlaskan

Жыл бұрын

It was a spear, but your idea is pretty badass.

@shadiafifi54

Жыл бұрын

You can still crack skulls with the other end of the spear, I'd imagine.

"Dungeon-slaying sword" Now that would be one hell of a way to kill the campaign

@asteriondeltoro124

Жыл бұрын

"We go forth to slay the dungeon and plunder the dragon!" "Shouldn't that be the other way around?" "Of course not! Have you seen that dragon?! She is SMOKING HOT!"

@thekaiser3815

Жыл бұрын

@@asteriondeltoro124 ladies and gentlemen, the Kobold bard.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

@@thekaiser3815 The mechanics of that....is gonna be interesting.

@Ackalan

Жыл бұрын

Player "My sword cast a random spell." *Throws dice.* Player "..." DM "What was it?" Player "..." DM "... Yes?" Player "..." DM "... Yeees?" Player "... It cast "Armageddon"." DM "..." Player "..." DM "..." Player "New campaign?" DM "I need a moment."

@procrastinatinggamer

Жыл бұрын

It’d be doubly-funny for a Pathfinder 2e game using third-party stuff from Roll For Combat because they made a playable dungeon ancestry. It was an April fool’s thing, I haven’t read it myself, but damn if the jokes don’t just write themselves.

The paladin didn't want to have a conversation because he knew that he didn't have a leg to stand on, thus an essay shall be both his shield and his blade.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

Not as good as telling someone off while politely insulting their words and blocking them.

@koboldking7153

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcCaravan true

DM: Here is a magical forge that turn anything non-magical magic, and any magic items stronger Party: We refuse to touch it, it could be a trap to destroy our magic items Monk: _Tosses staff at forge. It turns into a dragonslayer spear_ Party: _Surprised Pikachu face_

@shadiafifi54

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't the party, just the party Paladin. They didn't want to "lose" a good weapon when the GM and party made it clear it wasn't a "gotcha" moment. When someone else took the chance and got a cool weapon out of it, the Paladin had nobody to blame but themselves for missing out.

I think you are really downplaying the riddle story a bit; like not only was the DM being rude once he learned the author knew the riddles, but he tried to turn the entire party against them too. Like that's beyond just a freakout; that was a targeted attack from this guy who was stealing the credit of the riddles from the OP. This is narcissism and intellectual theft, combined with bullying to try and make OP look like they were in the wrong.

How can you get pissed off of not getting a dragon slaying weapon when you refused to put your magic weapon in??

@EbonyChimera

Жыл бұрын

Also, DUNGEON SLAYER!😁

@mrroboshadow

Жыл бұрын

@@EbonyChimera i slay dungeons and crawl dragons....wait a minute

@pLanetstarBerry

Жыл бұрын

Sadly it sounds like a player vs DM mentality that bit the player in the ass and left him sour over it. Few years back I had a player with a bad case of it, which can get frustrating when you just want to give your players something fun and cool and this one player is convinced you're out to get them. I probably should have seen the red flag when I brought matcha-flavored biscottis I had made and he was convinced I snuck in a wasabi flavored one (dude, no, who hurt you?).

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he thought, "He knew I knew he was gonna screw me over so he used reverse psychology to make me give up my prize." That or assumed a spiteful retcon. Worst part is I don't think anyone actually called dibs on the new weapon so he could have still used it (give or take stat difference depending on who sacrificed a magic weapon).

@mrroboshadow

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcCaravan well consiredering the monk lost out on their staff to get that spear i thing that qualifies as dibs since if they gave it up cause palababy threw a tantrum then they would be left with nothing

Yeah, first story, clearly the player handled that VERY wrong. If you make a big secret for your character, have an idea how you plan to handle it being discovered. And the solution of "Murder whoever discovers it" is not a good solution. Like, he had a lot of options. Why was his immediate response to be try to kill another player? Just entirely the wrong way to handle that.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

Probably assumed the player was gonna turn them in. Still stupid, especially since they all have meta knowledge that they're all players with no reason to follow the world's prejudices.

@akun50

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention, considering how useful magic is in such settings, the rest of the players likely wouldn't have done anything negative. Hell, depending on how good the mage was, the rest of the party might've gone out of their way to deflect any accusations.

@TheRoboKitty

Жыл бұрын

His real problem was not waiting like 30 more seconds (irl or in game). As it stands, he attacked someone for the crime of _passing a perception check_ which is both stupidly paranoid and an abuse of meta knowledge

@naonao9528

9 ай бұрын

I agree the player over reacted, but I also kinda blame the DM. In fantasy stories the idea of magic being outlawed is common and creates a lot of tension. But in TTRPGs it nerfs a lot of classes and creates a lot of opportunities for PVP. There are soo many horror stories with this premise. If you really want to go with this premise you need to communicate well with your players and be really flexible so players don't feel nerfed. Maybe some magic can be re-flavored as technology or something. Maybe work with them to create an opportunity to reveal their true nature to the rest of the party early on. Make sure the rest of the party is on the same page that this world restriction is not as important as everyone having a good time. I also think the DM should have asked the OP what their intentions were with their roll and, if it was going to result in PvP, not allowed it. Then the Magus would have known they aren't trying to expose them.

@Burori1

6 ай бұрын

If anything it reinforces the anti-magic sentiment.

... actually, "Slay the dungeon itself!" could be a pretty interesting campaign hook in itself.

@chrispambo1539

Жыл бұрын

A ''The ENTIRE dungeon is a mimic !'' situation ?! So, basically... A Made-In-Abyss-like campaign ?

@enigmachaos4413

Жыл бұрын

@@chrispambo1539 the dungeon is the Tarrasque that ate you

@thekaiser3815

Жыл бұрын

Hi, welcome to the tomb of horrors, we hope you enjoy your stay.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

@@thekaiser3815 No one enjoys the Tomb of Horrors. Our self destructive tendencies are the only reason we're here.

@thekaiser3815

Жыл бұрын

@@clothar23 yep and that brings me joy to see how long it takes for someone to still there head in the demon's mouth. Or put on the crown. Or go through a misty door with out checking.

That plagiarizing DM was pretty lame. There is no way that kind of thing won't come back to bite you.

Story 2... but done better: My DM is running a little play by post game with me, that runs parallel to the main session. It follows my previous character teaming up with one of the villain groups, in order to get revenge on the other. As far as she's aware, the party is dead, and the party believes her to be as well. Meanwhile I play as a different character in the main session.

I can't imagine having the energy to chase after someone already in their car to complain about a single can instead of just tossing it myself lol A "power move," it is not, it reeks of small peen energy.

@tw33144154

Жыл бұрын

And the fact they went back into the house makes me think this person is a doormat. Honestly I would have just left and, maybe, texted the host apologizing for the can. Bowing to this behaviour just emboldens it.

@sherylcascadden4988

Жыл бұрын

I'm the sort who would go in, apologize to the group for not "taking care of my stuff" and take all the snacks I brought in addition to the can Jesse was so upset about. It's not his house and the owner should be making the rules.

oh the side rp thing, my dm does this, but the key factor is he does it with ALL the players if they request it or he has an idea for them. Lastest one was a cute one with our cleric meeting a tea shop owner.

If the DM feeds you a juicy plot point like persecution for being smart, you gotta go into the game with some idea of how you'll respond when it comes up.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

Apparently this guy's response was "do unto others before they do unto you".

@Jermbot15

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcCaravan Maybe. Felt like the guy panicked, didn't know how to respond, then gave up on his character entirely and went scorched earth. And I'm just saying he probably should have gone into that campaign prepared to gaslight the OP's character about what they "think they saw." Then either threaten or persuade them to keep quiet if that doesn't work, depending on how close their characters are.

@johnyshadow

Жыл бұрын

@@Jermbot15 I´ll admit I had/caused a similar problem in a game I played. I was a bard/warlock, chaotic good. The other player was a necromancer, rather obviously hiding some (possibly) evil book. I confronted them, and we were at a standoff. I was prepared to talk it out, the party has been together for a while after all. But the whole situation just went insane. I can´t remember who fired the first shot, the necromancer, or the rest of the party that really didn´t help calm things down. (Or it could have been me, though I don´t want to believe that.)

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

I would have thought the obvious answer to such a conundrum would be disguising as a martial class, idk what else being persecuted for magic would mean other than being invisible.

@Jermbot15

Жыл бұрын

@@echiko4932 Sure, the Magus class is a sort of hybrid swordsman with arcane powers. Maybe he thought that would be enough and didn't plan on what he would do when someone else in the party noticed him using any of the magus' numerous magic based abilities?

Honestly that first one could have been used for a great character development. Here you have an outlawed caster helping your group. Hell I'd roleplay that, could in a way wind up in a whole mage rebellion type campaign. Maybe the group will see the casters as being wrongly persecuted...maybe it could develop at the least stronger party bonds...shesh.

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about the possibilities of concealed magic, imagine like half the party being spellcasters disguised as martials and when discovered in a critical fight there's party conflict. Especially if there's a paladin of the crown that's sworn to capture every mage. Oathbreaker opportunity. So many paths to choose, that dm had a good idea. I kinda wanna play such a campaign... Hell, the true martials could crossclass with caster if they wanted to learn the super awesome forbidden magic after realizing the nice people they were travelling with are criminals.

My worst D&D game was the stuff of nightmares. First issue was one of the other players was the girlfriend of the DM. And while that isn't automatically an issue, it clearly was here, because he made her some sort of secret banished princess and the entire campaign revolved around her character who was, by the way, using some class that he home brewed specifically for her which gave her basically all the strengths of a fighter, rogue, wizard, and sorcerer combined basically but in ADDITION to all of that, she had a platinum dragon whelp as her animal companion which the DM played as basically a DMPC. And boy, it was worse than you can even imagine. I remember one specific instance that really seared itself into my memory forever was that there was this part of a dungeon we were in that had permanent darkness spell affecting an area. The dragon could see through it because it had blindsight of course, and every time a party member would pass through that darkness, he would fuck with them. He would push them around, try to disorient them, make them think they were being attacked, and a couple of characters he did fully attack. Now the DM never said excplicitly that the dragon was doing this, he was just describing being pushed, being attacked, etc. But everyone at the table knew it was his stupid little DMPC doing it just to get his kicks off. I think thats actually why it started attacking and actually dealing damage to our characters rather than just pushing them is because we all knew it was the dumb dragon and he was trying to convince us that it wasn't. Then after we left the area we tried to confront him about it, but the DM shut that down and said "your characters dont know it was the dragon, thats metagaming". Everyone at the table was like, bitch, you never said out of character it was the dragon, all of us KNEW it was because you play him like a little asshole all the time. So in addition to the overpowered, story-centric girlfriend, the overpowered and INTENSELY irritating DMPC, there was another character that was practically a second DMPC that we were forced to interact with numerous times. As far as the story went, this guy was apparently like some sort of supporter of the princess and wanted to see her put back on the throne or something like that, and he was far higher level than the party. He showed up and "did everything" a few times. And what I mean by that is he went into a room and found all the secret passages leading out of it and picked the locks and all this other stuff that basically made the whole party redundant to even be there. He filtered with the princess, his girlfriend, constantly, and he was always threatening members of the party. One of the characters was a barbarian and wanted to have an arm wrestling contest with this guy in a tavern, and as soon as it began, he started fucking stabbing him under the table with a poisoned dagger. And after it was over and our PC barbarian was bleeding out all over the place (which NO ONE in the whole room noticed or seemed to care about or think was suspicious at all), the guy told him that it was poisoned and he was going to die in the next hour unless he gave him the antidote and told him he'd have to beg for it. The barbarian refused to beg for it, and the DMPC threatened he was just going to die then, finally the barbarian blacked out. He woke up strapped to a table where that DMPC then proceeded to torture him for literally no fucking reason at all, just for the DM to get his rocks off I guess. On top of that, while all that arm wrestling shit was happening, our entire party got robbed by the thieves guild and they somehow took all our money and possessions we were carrying, literally everything, without any of us noticing or even getting an opportunity to roll anything. Then come to find out, that guy was the head of the thieves guild and told them to do it... For... reasons...? I guess? I don't know. None of it made sense, it was like the whole game was there to try to impress his girlfriend and live out his own power trip using two god awful DMPCs to do it. He was so deranged even his girlfriend got extremely uncomfortable with how he was treating the other players. I played like 6 sessions and then quit because I could see that game had no future, and all the other players quit right after I did. The only reason I lasted 6 sessions is because I was a paladin with find steed and I had a lot of telepathic conversations with my horse which I enjoyed and a couple of times my horse came to the rescue because the DM forgot that it had higher intelligence and could telepathically communicate with me, so at one point when we were all imprisoned, that horse was doing some metalgear stealth ops to try to sneak in and bust us out which was just hilarious and the whole table was rooting for the horse with every roll and that was actually really fun. The horse made it fun and tolerable for a while, but I couldn't take the BS anymore and had to quit. Damn shame too. I think the whole party had become more invested in that horse's story and character than anyone else's at the table haha. To be honest, I think that also irritated the DM because he wanted his shitty dragon to be the center of attention so everytime the party cheered for the horse he seemed to get jealous. Yeesh, what a creep that guy was.

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

Dragons may be cooler than horses, but stealth ops is cooler than annoying pranks. I'm surprised the dm didnt make the clap of the horses chee- hooves alert the guards.

@TheDrexxus

Жыл бұрын

@@echiko4932 It happened pretty early on and even he was into it at first. Whats so funny about it is horses have pretty awful stats aside from strength and no skills at all, but every time I made a roll for my horse it was like 18-20 so he kept passing all the skill challenges anyway. It was a real D&D highlight honestly, everyone at the table had a blast. Such a shame it happened in the worst game i've ever played. I think people liking my horse more than they liked his annoying dragon was part of the problem for him. I didn't even get into the fact that the dragon was a platinum dragon and apparently Bahamut reborn, as a baby, and was basically the embodiment of Lawful Good despite acting like a chaotic evil little asshat. Just thinking of that campaign sends shivers down my spine. So awful.

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDrexxus i haven't played a campaign yet but i hope i can have ur highs without ur lows when i get around to it

@TheDrexxus

Жыл бұрын

@@echiko4932 I've played for many years. Some games were outstanding. Some games were bad. Most were middling. But i've never regretted getting into the hobby. It is immensely enjoyable. I think the reason bad campaigns sting so much is because, if you're like me, you put so much work into designing your character and writing their story and figuring out who they are and then learn more about them as you play. It is a lot more intimate than say a video game or TV character that you don't really have any control over what they say or do. And then when a campaign ends, for whatever reason, it always feel like you have lost something. It's like, when you play Breath of the Wild, you're not worried you'll never see or interact with Link or Zelda again, you know it'll happen, but in D&D you may never play with that character again and that is sad, like a death almost. But when a campaign ends prematurely, without resolution, because of bad DMing or whatever, it just feels even worse because there was so much wasted potential and possibility to explore. So much to do that will never get done. Sometimes you can just remake the character in a new game, but that always feels weird to me and depending on the setting and tone it isn't always possible. But I love D&D. Finding a good group is one of the greatest joys in the world and you gotta treasure it while it lasts because eventually you'll lose people because they have kids now or changed jobs or moved or whatever. Enjoy every moment that you can and have a magical adventure. Also enjoy looking up completely random weird shit like "How much does a human skeleton weigh?"

Had a player come into a campaign one time. He named his player (who was a paladin) ; Alpha O'Magus. As I do with all my players; I asked to see his sheet. He got offended and asked me why. I replied that it was my homebrew game (not a module) and more importantly that I was DMing the game. He had the entire sheet filled out as a 1st level character. The second thing that tipped me off that this particular person wasn't going to work out; his Str, Dex, Con, and Chr we're all 18's. Now this is 2nd edition. And fighter's (only) can roll for exceptional strength. His was 18 (00). His Int and Wis we're both 16. Me, (being the nice guy that I was and the fact that he was my new "son-in-law"; decided to allow it. Playing as a paladin; he decided that since he was leading the party, that he should have first share of the loot collected (even the loot collected secretly) and a bigger share of the treasure because he had to tithe. So when he fell through a trapdoor, 40 feet onto a spiked floor, to his death.... I didn't feel bad for him. He argued that he would never have fallen because he would've caught himself because of his exceptional strength. I simply said "It was a sheer drop across a 10x10 area and you didn't let the thief check for traps". No-one ever thinks of bringing in a cleric; so I NPC one (just for healing... I like my party to succeed). Paladin demanded that my cleric come down and heal him. (I ignored him). Then he raised his voice saying "Did you hear me?". I simply looked at him and said "Nope. YOUR DEAD! My cleric can't talk to dead! He left and I never saw him again

The players, OR their characters, could have TALKED about the fact that one of them is a magic user. "Hey, man, you've been a valuable part of the party for a while now. I promise NOT to turn you in. In fact, I'll protect you, should someone else try to do so." Yay! Role play! But that guy panicking was just stupid. I mean, did he really think you would NOT notice him helping you out in battle, by giving you unlimited ammunition? Like, somehow, you're going to notice the unlimited ammunition, and not think, "Hmmm, someone who is my ally is using magic to help me." He absolutely panicked. Too bad the OP didn't say, "Man! I'm NOT going to turn you in. We're PARTNERS!" and ask the DM to not allow his character, who JUST HELPED HIM to attack him, because "No PvP, right?"

Okay, Tortuga is NOT from Pirates of the Caribbean. It is a real place.

@kjarllan7097

Жыл бұрын

yeap. in the Caribbean.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

True but pretty much everyone is going to think of the movie first, especially in a pirate campaign.

@Xalerdane

Жыл бұрын

It WAS a real place. It fell into the sea during a super-intense earthquake.

Kylie's behavior is really disgusting. To not only not see her wrong doing but to make Matt have to suffer as well by saying he won't be joining anymore either? Just atrocious

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

That honestly was worse than the enabling DM. Might even be the reason the DM enabled her: she'd keep his friend away out of spite.

@jamesmahon6788

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcCaravan damn I didn't even consider that as the possibility but it makes a lot of sense

@jonathangitter1311

Жыл бұрын

​@@ArcCaravan I'm pretty sure it's because they were fucking

a dungeon slaying sword would be so much more interesting. might have to toss that into a chaos game i have plans of running in a funhouse dungeon

The Dragon Slaying Staff sounds rather Bada**. I'd love that. The Paladin was just being a jackwagon and he knew it. That is why he wrote the long winded essay instead of actually discussing the issues with the rest of the party/DM. He knew he was in the wrong and couldn't handle being called out for it. At least that's what I gathered listening. on a side note, A DUNGEON slaying sword would absolutely corrupt whatever character I had with it. HAHAHAHA. That was great, thank you

one has to wonder what was the wizard from the first story trying to accomplish like if your notice that someone else noticed that you're a mage and you do something like cast a firebolt at them the entire party will notice like what's your actual plan? just kill the entire party and run? were he planning to singlehandedly wipe out his entire party?

See, sometimes I borrow ideas from my players too, but I wait until they forget they had the idea and then use it so they can feel really intelligent finding out the answer they themselves made. It makes for a great morale boost, especially when they get the "You did awesome!" afterwards from me.

I hope this doesn’t sound like psycho analyzing but Kylie having a character that treats everyone like crap and keeps to herself despite others trying to be nice and explaining it away with her tragic backstory that she’s told nobody (I wonder what it even was in the first place) says a lot about how she might try to justify being a jerk irl

@alexinfinite7142

Жыл бұрын

This is how I interpreted her behavior

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a self insert

@AdamaGeist

Жыл бұрын

@@echiko4932 Sounds to me like she was having an affair with the DM. Okay I know, strange, but hear me out. She spends all her time on her phone, sending texts to people. She only stops when the original DM isn't in charge, but resumes when he's back in control of things. Every time she acts, she justifies it with 'backstory' and the GM lets her. She texts the GM as part of explaining what her character is communicating. Now, what kind of scenario would have it where she's remaining there at all times, but there's noted tension between her and her husband, AND getting away with things because of the GM?

What is worse, the player who always blatantly betrays the group, or the one who usually does so, but has at least one character where they don't do that; proving that they can behave if they want to? I played with a guy who played a couple characters that constantly dropped fireball, or darkness, or fog clouds and such on the group, typically making combats harder than they should be. However he also played a light cleric that would not drop a fireball on the group, even if the group was swarmed. It showed he COULD restrain friendly fire, he just thought it was funny. The DM enabled or was at least complicit in his behavior, but he spontaneously stopped showing up for D&D, so I guess the issue resolved itself.

the OP of that riddle story did an amazing job RPing through that. very well done, round of applause 👏👏👏👏👏

I have a campaign that's ending like this. DM kept doing side sessions with one particular player. It was very annoying. Especially when they didn't even ask for it. And we're shock to find that no one else was getting that treatment

@bradwolf07

Жыл бұрын

was the DM trying to woo that player?

@kidflash2fan

Жыл бұрын

@@bradwolf07 No it's worse than that, the Dm is ace. In my opinion, he was doing cause he just liked their backstory the most.. He asked us to build characters that had a certain tie to the location. But I think he just liked how this player had done at the most so he just focused on them. This player probably also just reacted the ways he liked, so he didn't have to deal with anything he didn't prep. The DM hated anything to much unexpected.

@bradwolf07

Жыл бұрын

@@kidflash2fan oh yeah, that is worse. I'm sorry you had to experience that bullsh*t from your DM. While I don't like too many surprises IRL, in DND that is part of the fun. So that just bugs me to all h*ll.

@kidflash2fan

Жыл бұрын

@@bradwolf07 don't worry post game I tore him a new one over both things, the Player favoritism and his inability invite uplaned things into the game.

You go, Crispy. You slay that dungeon! In all seriousness, love that I basically got home at the same time you posted this. I just got home and after I was done settling down, I went on KZread and saw this posted "4 minutes ago". SO FRESH, lol.

I'll never understand this drive in some players to oppose the rest of the party. It's just not something that should be happening in a cooperative game.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

They prefer their own enjoyment or survival to others'.

@echiko4932

Жыл бұрын

DnD? More like PvP amirite. Team deathmatch players that forget the team part.

I think for once, I'm going to be that guy. The rouge that RP'd with the DM through texts most likely did more with the DM than just texting since she prefered doing it without the husband.

I am very glad I stumbled across ur channel it’s very entertaining, engaging, and relaxing at the same time. I love watching CR and AI, I tried playing D&D for the first time a year ago after watching it on KZread for years but was really disappointed with the group and DM it just wasn’t what I was hoping for so I haven’t played since. Wish I was lucky enough to find a group I could gel with…but nonetheless I still love watching CR every week!

“Can you stop Betraying us?” Yeah, the majority of the events in these stories seriously makes you question the people at the table. Sanity is short on Common sense these days. Especially if People let their own Egos free ride through a D&D session.

@MasterLittica

Жыл бұрын

Had something like this happen a few years back, one guy betrayed us twice and the second time it almost got one of the group killed our quiet Paladin out of nowhere just outright tells him "You betray us again and you are gone, there will be no weaseling your way out of it, you leave, you betray us again and one of us gets hurt, I'll kill you myself" well you can probably guess what happened two sessions later

"Edge Lord betrays the party constantly." Oh shit it me. Well, kinda, when I met the party I tried to sell them my services for 10 copper, fighting against racists in a bar. But druid and rogue could've taken them, I just wanted to establish myself as 'mercenary, extremely money focused.' Druid said no, so I panicked and tried to sell my services to the racists, but rogue caught up and then paid me off, and had a funky little Kobold Golemancer with a guild of Golemancers. We had fun, apparently they got REALLY attached to my golem, decorticating him and even had the groups artist draw him up (pretty much Baymax). Then as we go, eventually we befriend a manticore, stuff happens and then our session stops JUST before a dragon encounter. Now, we're all new at DnD. All of us, DM included. What I know of Kobolds is limited to a skim, so in my head I figure Kobolds want to BE dragons, so they'd probably WORSHIP them, right? So I text the DM "if we fight the dragon, I'm siding with the dragon." He's kind of like "I wish you didn't tell me that because I want to have the emotions right now next week, but I get why you told me early." So a week rolls by, and when fight happens I...stay quiet. I want to see what the party does. We're not murderhobos, but we are kinda trigger happy, so it rolls into combat. My turn comes up, I say "I speak draconic to the dragon" and then text the DM right there. "I'm on the dragons side, how do we do this?" DM texts "bow to the dragon." So I do. Now I fight with the dragon. Druid casts suggestion. It succeeds, and I'm back on their side. Dragon uses a reaction to punish me for the betrayal. It hits. Suggestion broken. Back on the dragons side. We all fight, I get some REALLY good hits in, and I legit TRY to kill the party, but also kinda don't. They eventually win, and I kinda sit there like "what's the point of fighting?" So I say "I sit on the ground and wait for death." Because that's ABSOLUTELY what's going down, right? Well nope. Because they try to talk to me. Find answers. "Why did you do this?" "It's a dragon!" I repeat, a lot. Sorcerer freezes one of my golems in place, the same one the party comes to love, and kinda just missed the second. They huddle up, trying to figure out what to do with me, because I tell them "we encounter another dragon, I'm siding with the dragon." They decide to banish me from the party. DM says "as you see Nirk leave, taking P2 with him, leaving only P1, a silent reminder of what transpired here." P1, the party fave, was wielding a magic sword. "I break the golem!" Shouts our fairy paladin. Leaving me to make my new bard character, who is taking up a subclass for necromancy to learn True Resurrection so he can reunite with his murdered wife. Oh, and summon up a few undead to kill the noble who murdered the wife in the first place.

Curse her sudden but inevitable betrayal!

Never do Player Vs. DM, it will always sour your experience, and is pointless, the DM wins.

Would a dungeon-slaying weapon be one that could also be used to breach walls and wreck traps? Maybe granting siege-monster or some sort of Juggernaught-esq power.

@enigmachaos4413

Жыл бұрын

a backpack full of c4 and an instruction manual

I think the detect magic story, has points to it that could've been handled differently. Communication between the players involved, OOC... is what comes to mind. Sure your characters will have to go over the specifics in character... but all in due time. In this case you could lean in hard on the "simply curious, truly!", or "so I can assure others that they must've seen things, probably just their imagination going wild.".

Paladin had some issues and well when you don’t communicate to your dm or other players to offer constructive criticism your left looking like a whiny person who writes a 6 page rant or the DM and players who aren’t aware of these issues. Sadly we haven’t advanced enough to read peoples thoughts which is likely a good thing. Yeah one bad player can ruin or least bring down the experience of the group. I had the opportunity to play a homebrew game system that was similar to shadowrun in design using a d6 system. It was a investment of nearly 3 years in this homebrew campaign set in a steampunk like area where I played a mad scientist wolven that was a wild magic like artificer. The campaign was great and for most of it we had a good time till the end of the campaign when the problem player in question just really brought The Who mood down at the table when she told everyone this wasn’t the path she wanted us to go or even do. It made most of ourselves pretty annoyed especially after hearing this after the campaign ended. I’ve since look past it now then it just got to me because she was the least engaged person at the table. While we did some suggestions she brought up the most part she never gave any meaningful suggestions on where we should go next and there was several major plot points the whole party had to decide what to do and they just remained non responsive. I placed bit of the fault on DM as she would only talk to him after the sessions and she would absolutely not participate in any out of character discussions and planning for the next game always saying she wasn’t interested in talking to anyone in the group after the session ended. While I still have fond memories of this game it was still a bit bitter sweet

In relation to the first story, I love making characters with major secrets that can lead to major party dynamic development. Like I am currently playing a black Dragonborn bard, who stays disguised as a copper Dragonborn as to avoid the stigma and also not make the brass Dragonborn in the party uncomfortable. There were SO MANY times that I could have been caught, disappearing before the party wakes up, an entire sequence where I was only saved by everyone in the party being horrifically drunk and the players not noticing that the DM was saying black and not copper, and it literally took my character transforming mid-battle and running out of spell slots to cast disguise self. It lead to a hilarious moment where the other Dragonborn was just brutally confused as to how he wasn’t dead yet considering my bard was considerably stronger than his rogue, and said rogue liked to piss everyone off with him crying about his lost arm constantly. It was a great moment that sorta set up more of a dynamic between my character, our murder hobo halfling, and the other Dragonborn. Another character that I’m super excited to use is a vampire blood hunter. The DM and I have already worked out a system that I need to keep my blood levels at a certain liter count, or I have to give my character to the DM for a temporary frenzy feeding until at full capacity. Obviously my blood rite spells take blood, so we’re gonna work out how much each spell takes and all that. I am scared for what he will do for that considering I think there may be a paladin in that campaign. I still won’t get too mad if the party decides to try and turn on me, it’s always a risk with this type of character. I just love a challenge, and it helps keep my head in the game for longer since I have a party of around 5-7 depending on if everyone can make it to the call or not.

The best way I've found to balance personal quests vs the main campaign is to take 2 weeks off at the conclusion of a major arc. This gives players a chance to refresh, and allows me to outline the next few weeks of the story. In that time offer any of the players a chance to run a side quest for personal development. Having a 1 on 1, or a 2 on 1 is an interesting dynamic and allows for mechanics that can't be done easily with a full party. More than a few times these sessions became so interesting, it pivoted into a main arc storyline.

Good morning/ afternoon Guardian

Kind of a pity OP took the riddles down, I would've liked to see them, not for any reason besides I like riddles. I still like using the riddles from the book The Hobbit, you'd be surprised how many people don't know those riddles or maybe not given the world of today, idk

Please stop betraying us...CRISPY! *dramatic sting music*

Riddle Story: It is generally bad form to give the answers to puzzles that you know of out of game or even to say 'oh, you stole this from X media!' to the DM, but the OP handled it alright, especially because the DM was going to take credit for THEIR work. The best option, however, if you recognize what the DM is taking 'inspiration' from, is to stay quiet and not reveal that it is not their idea in front of everyone else, especially if it's a home game.

So, funny story about my time playing Legend of the 5 Rings: It's essentially a low-fantasy Samurai RPG. Very fun, and worth a shot I'd say. The point is, there are a lot of clans named after all kinds of animals, from crabs to unicorns. They are mostly allied but often in competition. Kind of like the EU, I guess. They hail from different lands but ultimately share the same goal, which is the fight against a dark land filled with shadows. Well, all except one. The Spider clan is allied with the shadowlands, and can cast a unique form of magic using blood. I played a spy from this clan, and the DM actually allowed the group to roll to see if I was one of them. They failed, and to this day none of the actual players know about this. It just sucks we only had 4 sessions, that was shaping up to be the most fun I ever had in any RPG.

it's weird how often "in this setting the DM told us magic users are persecuted" comes up in horror stories. or really just in general? like is this all just Dragon Age's fault? bc honestly I think it's a pretty dumb idea to bolt onto D&D or Pathfinder, the games aren't designed with that idea in mind and it just creates weird counter-incentives and punishments that clang with the systems in ways that become problematic given how mechanically driven those games are.

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

I think it's to simulate religious persecution or witch hunts while making the magic players into underdogs against the empire. And roleplay can give leeway for DMs to make the stories work despite mechanics. It still requires the DM and/or players actually be good.

@echiko4932

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The roleplay! I can picture it now, a newbie pally of the crown sent into a war against goblins to lead drafted citizens (other party members) who are assumed to be all martial, but some are casters in disguise! Oh the drama when their secrets are discovered~ oh the oathbreaking potential~ Yes ik paladins are casters but like, oath of the crown is pretty reliable for leaders to use.

@sigh2954

Жыл бұрын

Best character I ever played was a sorcerer in a land where sorcerer's were hunted down, slain and experimented on. I tricked the entire party (minus the DM) into thinking I was a wizard by dumping tons of points into alchemy (3rd edition). The roleplaying and problem solving possibilities were endless. Oh Donovan... Miss ya bud.

I think the riddle guy was also being sexist. I can't imagine that kind of reaction to anyone who solves your riddles unless their intellect somehow threatens you. "Arrogant bitch" would never come out about her if she was a dude, that's what I think

I initially misunderstood the first story as something similar is happening in my game but better. Basically, in my game, the player is using magic to do something the party wouldn't agree with. They describe what's happening out of character and none of us are actively looking for things so we (in 5e) passively fail to notice them. It went well and I almost assumed the first story was the OP using meta knowledge to screw over another player.

13:28 --- why do I have the deep dark feeling these side rps between the Dm and problem player were erotic in nature?

@tw33144154

Жыл бұрын

That was my thinking too. Either it was or DM wanted it to be.

Wow is this what it's like to follow a consistent content creator? I'm struggling to keep up!

Why do so many Paladins end up being That Guys in these stories?

@ArcCaravan

Жыл бұрын

I assume it's about power, authority, and the belief their lawful good alignment is meant to serve them rather than guide actions.

Most in character secrets are more entertaining as shared dramatic irony than they are as “twists” that you childishly keep from the other people you are trying to build a cooperative narrative with.

I know it's not the focus of the paladin story, but Ilove the anvil idea

So many stories have OPs doing the whole “oh I wasn’t planning on doing anything WRONG they just thought that for no reason… swear-sees 🥺.” I’m not saying it’s always false, but I also doubt is true as much as we’ve seen it in these stories

This is the problem with a lot of nerds, they are afraid to assert themselves. What should have happened with Jesse and the soda can is Jesse being told to fuck right off. You draw very clear boundaries with people like Jesse right away and one of three things will happen - Jesse takes a hint and stops being such an annoying prick, Jesse gets butthurt and leaves the game or Jesse gets butthurt and remains in the game but now since you called him out the other players will be more willing to call out his behavior and eventually number 1 or 2 happens. In any case whatever happens it will only improve the game for you and everyone else.

Love you Crispy!!!!! ❤

@CrispysTavern

Жыл бұрын

Awww thanks!

@pauldurando9466

Жыл бұрын

Me? Nah I have an extra U, R and D in my name lol

@ellielza9465

Жыл бұрын

@@wizardswordfish5875 You're thinking of Paul Dano :p

@pauldurando9466

Жыл бұрын

I had no idea he existed, you really caught me off guard lol

@crowposting

Жыл бұрын

@@pauldurando9466 cool name either way lol

If he sent that essay to me I’d just say I ain’t reading that lmao

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

No mate the real power move is writing an equally long response refuting all their points. Waiting for the inevitable foaming mouth reply than blocking and kicking them.

I love rubbernecking horror stories, too funny these PCs/DMs

If you intent to betray the group, I would say it should be discusses with the DM before hand. That way a story can be built around the idea, forcing your group and the DM to go along with YOUR ideas when the story itself isnt your story to tell, its just fucking annoying. Like go make a blog if you want your voice to be louder then others and talk into the void of the internet alone. If you want to betray your group, just talk to the dm and be like "hey I want my character to end up being evil after some amount of time" and most people that DM would be like "free ideas I didnt have to plan, sure"

When it comes to character secrets one time I just had continuous luck with rolls. I was playing a Good Drow and the party was sent to a human settlement right next to a Dwarven stronghold, long story short we fight a group of other Drow and my character gets injured, he goes to a Dwarven doctor and despite the doctor mending his wounds he never realized my character was a Drow because I rolled high on Deception, I didn't even that high of a modifier on the actual stat.

I had a similar experience to that first story but I was the player with a secret, but with a more interesting ending. I got to be the bbeg at the end of the campaign, because the party betrayed and killed me after they found out I was a wizard in a 2e Darksun game. (Arcane casters are seen as, and are evil in the setting) I was posing as a psionist until I used one of my powerful spells and killed the plant life around me.

Why’d it have be my name on the last story 😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣

Got to love these stories, but why do we love these stories?

20:51 Jesse giving me civil protection vibes

I've hosted tons of times, at no point would I be cool with what Jesse did. Disrespectful.

I mean, IIRC you can't hide spellcasting without metamagic...

Warhammer TTS joke: Rapid Curtailment.

Magic is persecuted is one of the worst tropes in D&D home brew campaigns.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

Man people freak out when someone lifts something heavy. Starting witch hunts about steroid or hgh abuse. Do you really think it would be any different if some people could summon demons or cast fireball ?

The intro story had me worried about another "no technology allowed in DnD" story, but it was just a PvP one. The intro stories tend to be good, but it feels like they don't get as much credit as the others.

I was the guy who wrote a wall of text after a failed Alliance raid on Orgrimmar. Except my pc crashed midwriting and I haven't backed stuff up. Then I cooled off.

@CrispysTavern

Жыл бұрын

The Hordecorp guild and I stormed Stormwind in turn my friend…. Lol good to see so much of audience coming down from Azeroth

First story; if you're a gunslinger, it turns out you tend to do a pro gamer move that most unprofessional morons don't know exists called "Counting your bullets so you don't run dry at an inopportune time that immediately gets you killed." In any case, the other player sounds like the person who you can't trust to do anything more than play the most basic bare bones default class and should not be allowed to touch anything that might be a worthwhile plot point. Since someone who is actually competent (Read: not stupid) could make much better use of it. Second Story; TL:DR the point of the essay was to berate and insult the DM for not reading the player's mind to know how best to play their role as a mere NPC in the story of the player's life to feed their narcissistic fantasies despite being too awkward a schlub to actually live up to their delusions. Story three; massive ego and complete social illiteracy? I'm shocked the problem player managed to get into some kind of affair with the DM. Tell me I'm wrong.

I want to know more about the first one. Did the caster ACTUALLY demonstrate IN GAME he was casting spells, or did the player say he was casting spells, and the other person decided to check based on that? How he responded seemed shitty for sure. But I've seen enough inadvertent meta gaming to immediately assume that the story seemed iffy. A players passive perception needs to meet a certain threshold in order for them to make those types of observations during combat. Which is a bit of plot armor for something like that. At least that's how I've seen most games run. If he'd cast something out of combat then maybe...But casting in combat? Maybe an arcana check and a perception, I don't know. Catching him DURING combat seems kind of shit to me.

@solandri69

Жыл бұрын

Given that it was a magic-persecuted setting and any caster is presumably trying to keep their magic use secret, either (if DM feared the players would metagame) the DM should've been rolling in secret for other PCs to notice every time someone cast a spell, and informing PCs who succeeded of the spellcaster via notes. Or (if DM trusted players not to metagame) had then openly roll to notice every time someone cast a spell, reinforcing to any casters players that they had to make an effort to keep their magic use secret. Having the caster auto-succeed on keeping it secret and accusing any player of metagaming if they asked if their PC noticed it, is completely backwards. It basically makes it impossible for other players to ever notice they have a caster in their midst.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

@@solandri69 Without things like subtle spell a magic user casting a spell that uses all three components is going to be noticed by anyone with two brain cells.

Can you stop betraying us?

can I stop betraying us?

Just why do people allow this sort of nonsense to happen? The DM of the Betrayal Player literally enabled them to have MAIN CHARACTER SYNDROME and do whatever they wanted. The riddle DM literally plagiarized a guide on riddles and accidentally allowed the author of the guide to play in his game.

Engagement

It baffles me that people actually exist in the world with so little confidence that they would cave in that jesse situation. That just stinks of bad intentions and self righteous bs, you shouldn't ever let someone push you around like that.

Why would he actually pick up the soda can At that point that makes you look weak

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

It's because they are weak. After all OP admitted to that sort of past behavior with Jessie. Some people just don't have a spine.

@jacobgallegos8762

Жыл бұрын

@@clothar23 I don’t get how all these op’s are getting punked in d&d How do u get punked as an adult by a nerd

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgallegos8762 That is the wrong definition of punked. Regardless you have to admit it makes OP look hella meek when they mutely go back to pick up not only the soda can but other trash to. That is classic doormat behaviour . I personally would have at best driven away without responding to Jessie. And at worse knocked Jessie's teeth in.

1:45 Do you mean Arno Stark?

Can You Stop Betraying Us!

In terms of story 3, its not even bad to use other people's stuff, just don't claim that you made it, especially when you encounter the dude who literally made it and is it trying not to abuse such a powerful meta-gaming tool it could be.

Can you stop betraying us

Some people are just too competitive.

The guy playing the wizard in the first story was completely out of line, because their character would not know the gunslinger had noticed their spellcasting. If the wizard did have reason to know this it might have made sense to react, although even then it was stupid to attack the other characters. But bottom line they should have been called out for metagaming. A paladin being a religious fundamentalist is probably fine. A paladin threatening to kill innocent people and avoiding opportunities for sacrifice for the greater good, however, is not a paladin.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

Mate the spell he was casting had all three aspects of spell casting. I.e verbal , hand motions , and material usage. Honestly it probably was only player courtesy that let said spell flinger go undetected 9 sessions.

Can you stop betraying us???

So I got to ask.. how the hell is there all these stories about people playing D&D, But I have spent a small fortune trying to play .. I may have played 4 or 5 times in three editions.. Yes I have brought at lest handbook from e3.5 to e5.. so where the hell are all you people finding games??

Sorry, got distracted. What was the comment I was supposed to leave again?

I miss the chiller vibes you used to have for these stories, you speak faster and it’s a weird vibe

"The point of criticism-" *Ad plays* Hahaha....I fucking hate this site.

Single spacing has never been an issue to me. I get more annoyed with double spacing, it reminds me of children's books and makes me feel the writer is condescending to me. It's _paragraphs_ that are the bad guy for me. A typical paragraph shouldn't be much bigger than a YT comment that doesn't hit the "Read More" stage. Bigger than that...can get way too big to read without my eyes glazing over.

@tarotsushima3332

Жыл бұрын

I think the single spacing comment was to demonstrate how much shit that guy wrote if he could fill six whole pages with that.

@aprilbennett4161

Жыл бұрын

I'm both confused and intrigued by the association of double-space with "condescending" children's books.

@clothar23

Жыл бұрын

@@aprilbennett4161 I don't know about childish. But it does always seem like a waste of space to me.

1:40 lol u just told them whe nu trust them its not that hard, also its pretty nead to overthrow magick ban fucekrs, in my world magic is `1controled` but have apostats to so xD

Can you stop betraying us

Can you stop betraying us?