Noel Monk deserves major credit for coming up with a strategy that got them out of their shit contract.

@jonesy2111

19 күн бұрын

Absolutely! He did so much for the band and seldom gets the recognition for it. I had a conversation with him after I sent a message about his book which is one of the best and most honest rock memoirs and he said it would make a great movie 👍

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

It was an absolutely brilliant move

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

I agree . From what I've read (besides whatever Noel revealed ) the band never really made any money . Warner Brothers really ripped them off . Roth , and the Van Halen brothers talked about some of the 🐂💩 they put up with in a 2part ADKOT promo video on KZread .

@johng618

16 күн бұрын

Noel was the man! Rest in Peace 🌟

You know you’re massively successful when your “worst”selling album still goes double platinum in the states alone lol

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Damn right!

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

Live album yup!

Why did they do that to Michael Anthony?? Eddie recording all the bass parts. They really treated him badly.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Michael really got bad treatment - in the next one I go into a bit more depth on that. Buy all accounts he is a great guy and definitely does not deserve that whatsoever

@Victorxfactor

17 күн бұрын

Yes they did, more than once. VH wouldn't have sounded the way they did without MA, not because of his bass playing but his backing vocals

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Yes and no . Sam put alotta spin on the way they treated Mike BUT in the Van Halen brothers defense , Mike never wrote a song . He was treated like a session player .

@ReneCastroDrum

15 күн бұрын

You gotta ask was Mike even allowed to write a song ??? Looks like he was barely allowed to be the bass player !

@NelsonRiverosMusic

15 күн бұрын

@@ReneCastroDrum you can barely hear him on first few records. I think it wasn’t until they change producers that they raise them him up on the levels.

I don't think Dave's ego was the problem, Eddie's ego was even bigger. It was just creative differences.

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

The room wasn't big enough for both of them half the time

5150, OU812, and F*U*C*K came out while I was in college. I saw them on tour a couple of times during that era. It was the right music, at the right time for me. When I hear songs off of these albums, it takes me back to those halcyon days of youth. I love the albums from both Dave and Sammy with the band. I don't know why some "fans" have to hate either era. It's all awesome music.

@guitarmeetsscience

17 күн бұрын

Damn right! I came up in the same time, and similarly all of the songs from both eras bring back some great memories. But yes I am definitely seeing a lot of what you're seeing - people from either camp. It is definitely all awesome. Thanks for sharing your take!

@ugaais

17 күн бұрын

And everyone of this cant compare to the first 6 albums..born in 1970..liked Sammy solo and in Montrose

@kdm71291

Күн бұрын

Agreed...."apples and oranges"!

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

Balance was damn good also! Liked it more than Carnal Knowledge!

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

​@@ugaaisYour opinion.. First album was great...after that..eh

Finish What You Started is my favorite Hagar-era song. A very fresh sound for Eddie.

@guitarmeetsscience

14 күн бұрын

Such a clean snappy almost telecaster tone on that one. I agree 100%

I loved BOTH versions of Van Halen but I can also say that everyone involved in that band at any given point were aholes with the exception of Sammy and Michael Anthony....those 2 guys are gold on the inside!

I'm grateful for the Sammy era. VH became more musical, diverse, and interesting. Pre-Sammy had some good songs, but my personal taste has Van Hagar out of sight beyond anything else. Glad other people's opinions don't affect my enjoyment of it =)

@guitarmeetsscience

17 күн бұрын

It's very interesting - because they're really too totally different bands with the same name. It's also interesting how they had evolved to the point at 1984 where there sound was kind of getting to what we would hear with the Sammy era. They were already going in that direction. And as they started with Sammy you could already hear that flip in the sound but yet it was still slightly reminiscent of 1984 and then they just evolved continually through each album from there on out. The first era was pure fun rock and roll Van Halen and the second was sophisticated Van Halen. I'm seeing a pretty good divergence across both the Roth era and Sammy era videos. Thanks for sharing your take!

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

I'm guessing Ed wanted to do more pop at times after 1984 . The closest love song in the Roth era is "In A Simple Rhyme " . And Roth said in his interview from Joe Rogan he pointed that out kinda .

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

​@guitarmeetsscience First half of Sam era...People always forget the better half..Carnal Knowledge and Balance!!

Leffler was the glue, Sammy was the pen, Mike was the everyman and the brothers were serated staples poking holes after Ray "the moron" Danniels poisened them. Ray Danniels is responsible for the 1996 breakup. Ed's life started falling apart after this. I blame Danniels 100% 🤟

@Thomasmemoryscentral

15 күн бұрын

Is Ray Daniels sort of an Allan Klein type of person to Van Halen similar to Klein to Beatles?

Don't tell me what love can do, and Not Enough have been on my playlist for a while now, great well written songs.

It was never Dave who wanted Van Halen to go in a pop direction, it was Eddie.

@HazeOfWhearyWater

19 күн бұрын

Sammy wanted them to go Disco. I read his book.

@scottnorris8071

19 күн бұрын

Actually it was Roth who was the disco queen

@Pepsolman

18 күн бұрын

Dave wanted show tunes and burlesque music to swing his tassels to.

@jamesball5743

17 күн бұрын

Dave wanted guitars and screams, Eddie wanted sap and synthesizers.

@michaeltammaro482

15 күн бұрын

STOP.

i prefer the Roth songs but he did kinda screw himself. All the cover tracks and other stuff to pad some of the albums was frustrating to me. Sammy's version is not for me but I respect the quantum leap they made to redefine themselves to bigger success. One thing that bugs me is how Michael Anthony got short-changed. Aside from killer bass, his harmonies contributed greatly!

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

I agree with you 100% - why they did Michael like that I'll never know, because by all accounts Anthony was really cool and very easy to get along with

Great recap! IMO, VH with DLR was a band with an incredible guitarist. VH with Sammy was an incredible band! Sammy is a true talented musician and a quality human.

@guitarmeetsscience

13 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!!! Sammy is definitely amazing. You nailed it perfectly

This band really rocks the world. Thank you for tje beautiful sharing about Van Halen.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thanks Byron 🤘😎🤘

Awesome vid! Look forward to the next!

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! The final installment is going up Sunday night. I really appreciate your kind words!! 🙏

I don’t think Ed was that sober during balance

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

It didn't last long

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

​​@@guitarmeetsscienceYeah . Hagar's diva attitude gave Ed an excuse to fall off the wagon . Contrary to Hagar's 🐂💩 he started getting to act like the leader of the band . There's a VH compilation ( I think by Howard Stern ) on KZread that shows Hagar say on video " This is MY band . " . And in the next clip he says " Lead singer of the band , leader of the band , what's the difference ? " .

@feiticeirafatale561

6 күн бұрын

@@user-rt9zq8rs9k He says that in his book as well. But he also claims that before him it was DLR who was leader of the band, that it was never VH brothers. It seems possible since it was DLR who named the band 'Van Halen'.

You always deliver da goods

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thanks Damon I appreciate that bud!!!

Supposedly Ed had hundreds of riffs, ideas and songs on tape but their albums were short with not many songs on them.

@Plisken65

17 күн бұрын

Riffs and ideas aren't full songs. Sadly, Ed lied. Alot.

A lot of this I knew, a lot I didn't....interesting stuff! Balance is probably the hardest, most rocking of those from the Sammy era. My first concert was in the 1982 on the Diver Down tour.......and then I saw them on the first tour with Sammy in 1986 for 5150....both at The Forum in LA......and I was there for Monsters Of Rock when it came to The Coliseum in LA.....each of those shows were great, with a special nod to MOR for being a 9+ hour epic rock orgy with a bunch of great bands!

@guitarmeetsscience

Күн бұрын

That is freaking awesome! To see them at those different periods must have been pretty cool. Thank you kindly - I am glad you enjoyed it 🤘🤘

Lots of info I haven’t heard before. Excellent job.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!! 🙏

I was there from the beginning in 1978 and followed every year and album release until Sammy was kicked out. I was Sammy fan long before a Van Halen fan. What turned me off was all the drama from the Van Halen brothers. Talk about ego. Hagar still continued to rock and party while Van Halen slowly became irrelevant. Losing Edward was a blow. I was heartbroken 💔, but I'll always keep cranking up the VH tunes along with the Hagar tunes. I'm just here for the music. Screw the drama.

No doubt Dave was a great front man, but without Eddie he flopped. Eddie’s guitar will live on, Dave’s singing, not so much.

They did Michael Anthony dirty. Idc what they say. He was loyal from day 1. Always there until he wasn't...

The fact that Sammy and Mike are touring and loving life and Alex is selling his gear with no to jam with and Wolf touring as a cover band.......I would say Sammy and Mike WON!!!!!! hahahahaha! I've never been a VH fan and always thought they were bubble gum no matter what version or lineup, but it is great rock history.

@feiticeirafatale561

6 күн бұрын

Well, it wasnt them who lost a brother and father like Al and Wolf

So good video!👍👍👍

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you 🤗

I love that you actually narrate your own vids, hiccups and all. I cant watch a vid with a robot voice, ever. You state what happened; no hype, no opintonated BS, just "here's what happened". you just earned a subscriber.. VH forever; whichever version.

@guitarmeetsscience

14 күн бұрын

That totally makes my day - thank you a million!!! 🙏

Thanks again for a great video 👍🇺🇸

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thanks Rusty I really appreciate it!!

Cool !!!

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

🤘😎🤘 Thanks brother

It's amazing that Dave could step out and make some hits with cover tunes . Equaly amazing that van halen could write the first album without Dave and the songs were good enough that they could play most of them and ditch most the roth tunes . Van Halen was metal. Pop metal . They were no doubt the most talented in that genre . They created and were the kings of that genre for better or worse .

Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊 Jimmy

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you Amin!! Had a wonderful day to you my friend 🙏🙏🙏

Excelente work!! 👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thanks Mario 🤘😎🤘🙏

The Sammy lineup has always been my favourite.

@srincident

17 күн бұрын

Grew up with both and totally prefer the Sammy era.

Great doc Jimmy🤘🤘

@guitarmeetsscience

13 күн бұрын

Thanks Jimmy! Great to see you bro 🤘🤘

Nice job!

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!!!

It never ends...

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Sadly no.... One more to go 🤘😆🤘

Great band unmatched guitar player all great singers end of story

No brown MnM's, brown is only allowed in your sound. News flash, the only one that thought Dave was the main attraction was Dave

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Yet Dave sold more albums with the band , NOT Captain Candyass .

@guitarmeetsscience

16 күн бұрын

@user-rt9zq8rs9k ROTFLMAO 😆😆😆😆

Pro work Hoss!

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much man!!! 🤘😎🤘

I didn't really get into VH, until Sammy joined the band...

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

Same here! Once I heard Best of Both Worlds I was hooked!

Eddie Van Halen just strikes me as a pretty humble crazy waster, he did it his way at his own pace and it is what it is, a legendary guitarist playing with really good Musicians

Great channel

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much that really makes my day 🙏

Awesome documentary my friend. Great channel. Van Halen forever

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you so much my friend!!!

I never bought a single Van Hagar record!

@pontiacattack249

6 күн бұрын

Congratulations?

@scottstedeford7575

20 сағат бұрын

Too bad. They contain the best of Eddie’s, Alex’s and Michael’s songwriting and playing, especially on “Balance.”

@charleskandrut7022

2 сағат бұрын

Only VH1 is in my collection until 5150!!

Interestingly enough, Ted Templeman, who was their producer and worked for Warners, had suggested Sammy from the beginning when they got signed. Luckily they didn't heed that advice or we wouldn't have all that classic stuff. As much as Roth was a difficult personality to work with, I really think they wouldn't have been that successful early on. For all Dave's inadequacies he helped make them as influential as they became.

@guitarmeetsscience

17 күн бұрын

Their music back then probably would have been pretty rocking. Considering the work that Montrose has done - I'm envisioning stuff that sounds a bit more like the verse part of 5150, summer nights and drop dead legs kind of vibe

Dave's high school lyrics wha? Please.

@ltjjenkins

14 күн бұрын

100%. Hard music to write lyrics for in the early days.

As much as I loved 1984, I cannot stand "Jump", and Sammy Hagar 100% right. I understand they did play my favorite song of that work: "I'll Wait". All in all, I love the Hagar years. I met Sammy Hagar once, and he was a very kind gentleman. 😊

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

Oh yeah - I'll wait is a great song! That is very cool that you got to meet Sammy!!!

@AgentPepsi1

15 күн бұрын

@@guitarmeetsscience 😊😊😊

The standard at the time was full albums (not demos) containing banger after banger. How did they come up with so many good songs in a row? Each track being an introduction to the next 😢 music fans don't get that anymore

@guitarmeetsscience

6 күн бұрын

You're absolutely right - they weren't just albums They were entire experiences. Nowadays everything is in bite size pieces and it is a darn shame.

After all the years of finger pointing.... Blame Chart as goes : Eddie = 33.3% Sam = 33.3% Dave = 33.3%

@stuartewoldt1513

19 күн бұрын

😂 exactly.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Songs Mike wrote = 0% .

@richevans609

16 күн бұрын

Those numbers just take the edge off of the ridiculousness!

According to Sammy's book, Eddie wasn't sober during Balance.

Finish What Ya’ Started…Eddie played that tune on a stock 1964 Stratocaster.

@guitarmeetsscience

8 күн бұрын

He got a great snappy sound on that one

What trips me out is they gave the bass player a huge pay cut because he didn't do enough but I have heard that drums don't get royalty are song writing credits drums are in the musical category of arrangement and that get one time payment every arrangement the drums do but after that they are not included in royalty sounds to me the drummer got what the bass player normally gets and the bass player got what the drums get like they switched it around but who knows all I know is someone who sings and plays on the album should get some points off the album if he doesn't he nothing more then a studio player can't even consider him part of the band eddi would hard to deal with but the 80s were about getting it all now not later the future was now in the 80 everything is mine and greed is good to major 80s ideals man I miss those days lol

VH had the best guitar player , the best drummer at the time, but DLR was such a clown , when Hagar came along , I knew the band was complete .

These are great videos. You've done an awesome job. Keep up the great work.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Thank you a million!!!!

Eddie Van Halen was a fan and a friend of guitar great Frank Zappa. Sammy Hagar is an incredibly good guitar player, melodic, and technically talented. His guitar skills are grossly underrated by too many people.

Hey next please do how dave hooked up with steve vai!!!

@LaurieValdez-zk3dy

19 күн бұрын

I Adore him. Good choice. ❤❤❤

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

That is a good one! Steve Vai is in the cards for sure 🤘🤘

Time and record sales did show that Roth was NOT bigger than Van Halen as an entity.

I see these comments and see the same stuff regarding VH being pop after dave left... i hate that! 2 things: VH always had soft pop songs! AND the only real pop rock album was 5150 which unfortunately (in this case) is the most popular. Ou812 has some heavy shit on there, and the next two albums had straight up metal songs... the dave era never had true metal songs.

There were only 4 guys that could have ever made van halen happen the way it did. Hagar is very talented but in many die hard van halen afficionados minds hagar era wasn't even close to what we all heard with the original 4 members. I believe eddie and alex simply got tired of dave, they got tired of sammy and became annoyed with everything in their lives pertaining to music and business. Dave thought van halen was his band and sammy tried the same thing.

@guitarmeetsscience

14 күн бұрын

You're exactly right - both of those incidents got under Eddie and Alex's skin quite a bit. Many bands have had to deal with front men like that, and Van Halen was no different In that regard.

Wolf is awesome

Wolfgang is exactly what you'd expect from a person's son

Don't know if it's just me, but I can't even name more than a handful of songs from the Hagar era. Edit: And hearing the narrator talk about the goofy and schmaltz lyrics, I think this is the biggest problem of the Hagar era. Just my taste on the subject.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

They definitely had their moments, and things got really whacked out when Gary joined. I'm glad they went out with a bang though with a different kind of truth.

@donnswaby369

18 күн бұрын

No it's not just you, but as the same time, yeah, it's just you; I was 13 in 1986 when I bought my very first cassette of 5150. Eddie influenced me to start playing guitar. I listened to ALL Van Halen going all the way to the 1st album. My first Van Halen concert was the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge tour and it was one of the best nights of my life,. Me and hundreds of millions of fans around the world had a fucking blast rocking out to Van Halen in this most phenomenal era. Lot of fun, lot of love, lot of great fucking songs! I've seen VH eight times, with all three singers, all members. And every time, I saw VAN HALEN. What? You think Eddie and Alex are not going to rock hard like they 've always done, no matter who's singing? I am a Van Halen fan. Eddie is and always will be my all time favorite musician.

@tomb8430

18 күн бұрын

@@donnswaby369 EVH used to be my favourite guitarist too. Chased his tone for years, and got pretty close with my Plexi-50 and a variac. As I got older though, I realised there are many great musicians, and I don't think anyone is actually "best". They are all different.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Hagar himself recently bragged about not even trying to write lyrics decently when he started .

@tomb8430

16 күн бұрын

@@user-rt9zq8rs9k Yeah and it shows. I found all of Hagar's lyrics cheesy, lovey-dovey shite. That's just my view. I know others will disagree.

Hagar was an amazing lyricist she unlike Dave a great guitar player

My 1st =VH= album was 5150.

@guitarmeetsscience

12 күн бұрын

Very cool - see you got into them post Roth initially... I didn't know that. First one I got was diver down and it was a noisy cassette copy that a friend made for me. Then 1984 came out and so I signed up for Columbia House (the 20 tapes for a penny) and got all of their albums. Parents were pissed lmao

Source of infection!! 🎸🎸🎸🎸

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

🤘🤘

I saw VH live with Hagar. But what a bunch of assholes the bros VH were, businesswise.

@guitarmeetsscience

4 күн бұрын

They definitely had their moments for sure!

Roth=better front man Hagar= better singer

I really wouldn't consider the Hagar era "pop". Commercial success doesn't immediately mean the genre has switched to pop. Or at least, if it was then I would argue much of DLR Halen was also pop. Jump being the most pop track in their discography and Panama not far behind. Regardless, Hagar is the more talented by a lightyear and that is objective fact. DLR may have been a performer but he was also an egotistical tw@.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

13 күн бұрын

Yet Dave sold more Van Halen albums and will always outsell Captain Candyass

Why can't this be love sammy I ain't talking about love dave that says everything the difference is pretty clear lol

DLR was no mastermind of anything his solo career was over back in 1991.

@charleskandrut7022

Сағат бұрын

He's been a has been since the 80s!

After the album VH II it went all down hill artistically….became too commercial…….

Do you think you could cover Jeff Healy? I think he was a very not known musician. He was blind that also played with SRV! And I think it would be cool for a video dedicated to him! Since his background isn’t really well known or talked about !

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely! He is on my bucket list as well as Prince which we had discussed before. I didn't realize Eddie's story would stretch out as much as it did, turns out he had a pretty big history so I ended up doing four parts. Jeff Healey was a monster - it's amazing how he was able to have his hand over the fretboard and do all those bends and vibrato just as soulful as any of them great players. Such a shame we lost him at such a young age. Keep those ideas coming - You are definitely into some great players!!!

Eric Burdon would have been a great replacement for Dave Lee Roth. He was great with the Animals, War and solo. What a great voice he still has even if he has been going in singing more than 60 years. He has sung as a guest with Bon jovi, Bruce springsteen amongst others.

Dlr era 57 million records sold…Sammy era 27 million sold…you can have a number 1 album and fade quickly Van Halen 1 and 1984 sold more than all the Sammy albums combined…

I completely lost interest in the band when Dave left… I remember hearing the new stuff with Hagar and it sounded like the band Foreigner with a good guitarist (a line I’ve been quoted on by fellow musicians) - AOR radio rock and it just sounded so cheesy to me. After watching this I have more understanding of why it didn’t resonate with me. And yes I tried to like this version of the band and Balance was definitely the best album of that incarnation.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

They were definitely onto something when they hit the balance era, but sadly the tensions just got too high. It's weird because it was so cyclical - just like when 1984 was coming together, they were really heading in a new direction when everything fell apart. It would have been interesting to see what they would have come up with after balance had that lineup stayed together

@phildodson6141

18 күн бұрын

Balance was the worst during hagar era! Too 90s grungy sound...not upbeat fun party music. I'm a fan of both eras.....5150 or fuck were the best sammy albums.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

​@@phildodson6141That's funny . I agree . VH3 is better to me than Balance . To me , the best on the album is the 2part instrumental .

@fredmcgill848

11 күн бұрын

I didn't lose interest but I remember being so excited when I heard Sammy joined the band. Hager! Van Halen! This is going to blow the roof off! And instead it was like a version of Journey at first. Man I was disappointed and enjoyed DLRs first two solo records. But years later, songs like "Summer Nights" take me right back to those days...and I haven't listened to a DLR song since I don't know when.

@guitarmeetsscience

11 күн бұрын

@fredmcgill848 Summer nights was a real standout on that album. I always put that in a category along with drop dead legs and mean street as some move the most deep grooving stuff of theirs

Definitely went from hairy chested women to hot chicks in the crowd.

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

😆😆😆😆

No matter what. Eddie has passed. He loved drugs more than music. Alex will not with Sam and Michael. Roth wants to control the tribute but he can't sing. What is left is what is left. I will not see what is left. Why? Ticket prices are to expensive for what you get! I prefer a tribute band or Lynchmob with George Lynch at a club. The VanHalen brothers did this to themselves.

@SavDog262

16 күн бұрын

Yes but George needs to change the name to WokeMob

F U C K is my #1 Van Halen Album!! Just wishing I could find & buy either a DVD or Blu Ray video of 'Right here Right Now'.

@guitarmeetsscience

13 күн бұрын

I'm sure it's out there somewhere - might be expensive though if they're not in production.

2:36 daves hair starting its farewell tour 🤣

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

😆😆😆😆

turn on the night is a great track funny how that chord progression worked so well.

@guitarmeetsscience

14 күн бұрын

Oh yeah - great tune!

Love the first four VH albums , I cried when I first heard ' Jump ' ( keyboards ) out of disgust , yet 1984 still has good songs , never like Bette Midler singing for VH and still dont ...and SO WHAT !!!??? Thanks !

@charleskandrut7022

Сағат бұрын

Heaviest music was Carnal Knowledge and Balance... Clown show spandex boywas carried by Ed.

I enjoyed the Sam years but Dave made VH the Mighty Van Halen. Look at Montrose. Great band with great musicians and good songs. That's what VH was with Sam. And had they had Sam at the beginning I don't think we'd be talking about them. Maybe Ed but Not VH. Dave Made them Mega Stars with great songs and pushed Ed to be his Best. When Ed was his best, He was The Best! Worked perfectly. Long live the Mighty VH!!

I would say van halen was musically better with sammy the dude is a way better singer plus the man can play guitar as well really well Dave was a good showman but was a so so singer but roths ego got to high so it was best the dude left the band

The hagar years were the best.

It comes down to this... No #1 albums with Dave... EVERY album with Sammy went #1...!!!

Definitely changed to the mall crowd, never was the same 😅

@bb-gc2tx

19 күн бұрын

sammy saved the bands dignity in late 80s early 90s. dave looked pathetic by late 80s early 90s trying to dress and act like the hair band lead singers who were a decade younger than him . he looked like a wig wearing 40 year old still tying fit in with the young crowd thank god van halen didnt get any of daves stink on them during that era

Sammy Hagar years of the best of Van Halen David Lee Roth is nothing but a clown always have been always will be

EVH was an asshole, treated people like sh#t . Dave was hard work .Let Dave do his movie thing n it wld have been fine. It was good w Sammy. Started great but it faded .

As a former bass player I can tell you that Van Halen bass lines can be done by a college trained Chimpanzee. This band almost singlehandedly destroyed Rock Bass guitar.

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

Really? I don't know - I always thought Michael did some tasty stuff especially on Van Halen II. Granted he was no John Paul Jones by any stretch, but a lot of the later stuff was definitely Eddie laying it down. Eddie really liked it simple.

@Larrymh07

15 күн бұрын

@@guitarmeetsscience I agree. Eddie really liked it simple.

@guitarmeetsscience

15 күн бұрын

@Larrymh07 playing with Jeff Berlin that time must've drove him crazy LoL

@Larrymh07

15 күн бұрын

@@guitarmeetsscience You're right! 😃

@spuds6423

15 күн бұрын

​@@guitarmeetsscience Plus you would never have had that distinctive "Van Halen Sound" without Mikey 's background vocals. He saved Dave a lot because Dave wasn't really that great of a live singer midway through. Mikey is no Gary Geddy Lee Weinrib either but he helped make VH, VH!!

It was 5150 tiiiiime!!! Eddie was freed musically. Songs were a class above Dave’s high school stuff.

@richardthompson6366

19 күн бұрын

Ha ha ha, nope.

@gokhanersan8561

19 күн бұрын

@@richardthompson6366 Somebody got you a doctor ?

@ArinKambitsis

19 күн бұрын

Top five vh songs on Spotify are all Dave songs.

@gokhanersan8561

19 күн бұрын

@@ArinKambitsis Yeah, and also Taylor Swift. The people have spoken. Ha ha !

@Batlizard74

19 күн бұрын

I can’t imagine thinking that DLR wrote child like lyrics. It’s the complete opposite. He’s an extremely well read guy and lots of his lyrics reflect that. Most hardcore VH fans know there’s no comparison between DLR and Sammy. Wham Bam Amsterdam. And every single have the word “love” in. I love 5150 to this day, but it doesn’t compare at all to those first 6 albums with Roth. And it was Eddie that made as writing the “love” titled pop songs musically. Wish EVH never would have built 5150. The musical output decreased. Too bad.

5150 album sales success can also be attributed to the levels VH reached after their success of the first 6 albums and especially peaking in 1984. It was the last VH album I purchased until they reunited with Dave and did the album in 2012. I finally listened to OU812 in its entirety in 2018 and saw why I never bought it 30 years prior. I did go to VH concerts in 86 and 88 and they were still so energetic! The hits do make for good later 80s radio songs. But the rawness and architecture of the albums with Dave are so much better and heavier. The Sammy years were commercial. That album they did with the Extreme singer, YIKES! But, the 90s was big yikes! And in all fairness, fairness, the second part of the 80s was very commercial. Their 3rd album with Sammy was their strongest of that era. But the two songs they did with Dave for the Greatest Hits albums still blew away anything in the Sammy era by far! I’m so glad they toured again with Dave. Those songs are amazing!!!! It’s a concert you wanna be drunk for! They are an ultimate party band! But I could also see why they had issues with Dave. It was evident on the stage how annoying he could be: he does think he is the show. He is great showman but he was never anywhere on the level of Eddie. And Eddie never took a night off! Dave cut corners big time! Eddie played it as we knew it. “Cmon Dave!” Sing the lyrics, sing it on time.

@guitarmeetsscience

16 күн бұрын

Boom Great breakdown right there Thank you for that!

The music was ballsier in the Hagar era.

@jwbru2531

19 күн бұрын

Ummmm....How in the world would you ever come that conclusion? You have it all backwards. The Hagar era was always cheezie ballads and wimpy love songs. The Diamond Dave era rocked harder than anyone. Maybe I didn't catch your post as being sarcastic? Sorry...

@jonesy2111

18 күн бұрын

You must’s been smoking some good stuff 😏

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Yeah , ballsier Journey 2.0 !! Hahahahaha !!

The first 6 albums are the best by far. There's no contest. That being said, I'm sure Dave is quite the a- hole. He certainly hasn't aged well.

I didn't touch 5150 or 0u812 but, I had Eat'em and Smile and still had the Davie lee roth band posters. Sammy and that stupid Ramen noodle hair. So sick of hearing about Wolfgang

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

Eat Em and Smile freaking rocked

Balanced sucked!

@guitarmeetsscience

14 күн бұрын

It was definitely a pretty good, not their best

I like Sammy but Van Hager sucks ass!

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Wait til Alex's book comes out . Then you'll hear the truth .

SAM HALEN SUCKS!!! 🤘🌎❤️

@Uwilldyeeventually2

19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 omg , SAM HALEN , bro I jus almost pissed myself laughing , I've only heard of Van Hagar

@guitarmeetsscience

18 күн бұрын

😆😆😆 a first for me as well lol... Good one!

Dave can’t sing

@stuartewoldt1513

19 күн бұрын

Just goes to show how smart he was to get people to except him as a vocalist 😂

@stuartewoldt1513

19 күн бұрын

Also didn't hurt to have the last name Roth

@mrufino1

18 күн бұрын

@@stuartewoldt1513Van Halen excepted him when they got Sammy.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

16 күн бұрын

Yet he sold more Van Halen albums than Captain Candyass .