I hope she knows that when Isaac says "till death do us part" he's talking about the heat death of the universe... She's in it for the long haul!

@hectorandem2944

4 жыл бұрын

The definition of "ride-or-die" 💪

@gamespotlive3673

4 жыл бұрын

That's really cute.

@jacobsings

3 жыл бұрын

For all of eternity!

@albertjackinson

3 жыл бұрын

I love that!

@phantuain6331

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamespotlive3673 0

My Man Isaac deserves all the happiness. (And a 800 year lifespan).

@TheAnswer_is_42

4 жыл бұрын

800 years? That's insultingly low

@rojaws1183

4 жыл бұрын

And many digital copies of his mind uploaded into computers all over the galaxy.

@MusKubium

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAnswer_is_42 *800 years of biological

@kevinbarber2795

4 жыл бұрын

Никита Шипунов you beat me to it! XD

@guillermoelnino

4 жыл бұрын

getting married will be detrimental to both of those.

Congratulations on the wedding! Stay safe during the honeymoon, ok?

@albertjackinson

4 жыл бұрын

I second that!

@cf453

4 жыл бұрын

They'll find plenty of excuses to stay inside.

@elvimartinez5629

4 жыл бұрын

happy honneymoon

@vraymond2048

4 жыл бұрын

Which part of the world you are in, that is not in LockDown stage?

@joyphobic

4 жыл бұрын

@@vraymond2048 Why do you want to know?

IA Is getting married Finally, some good freaking news!

@elvimartinez5629

4 жыл бұрын

yeah

@gamespotlive3673

4 жыл бұрын

I'm the 100th like.

@alltimes5

3 жыл бұрын

im the 140th like

@iainballas

3 жыл бұрын

@@alltimes5 I'm waiting to become my 500th like. Or 1k. Or 1m, once he's got a billion views per minute in the 41st millenia.

@alltimes5

3 жыл бұрын

@@iainballas hahaha yeah

The purpose of Gold Pressed Latinum was to be used as an inter-planetary currency because, once manufactured, it could not be teleported or replicated.

@dansmith1661

4 жыл бұрын

As if something with mass can never be broken down and reassembled because you set its global flag ID to prevent copy/paste.

@kukenballe7063

4 жыл бұрын

@@dansmith1661 If something can be produced, it can be copied

@Troglor048

4 жыл бұрын

So printer no go BRRRRRRRRRRR?

@beskamir5977

4 жыл бұрын

​@@kukenballe7063 No cloning theorem says otherwise.

@Treviisolion

4 жыл бұрын

Beskamir that only applies when you need a clone that is a perfect copy on a quantum level. If your currency requires measuring that level of detail in order to verify, you will run into the quantum cloning problem as verifying that quantum information will change it.

Interesting. I've heard the word "post-scarcity" many times, and I've come across the notion of "abolition of pain", but Isaac is the first person I've heard of to use the word "post-discontent".

@AiluridaeAureus

Жыл бұрын

Ironically, money and discontent is pretty much the only way a true base-line quality of life "socialist" utopia could work, if yes you get guaranteed food and shelter, but the food has to taste bad, and the housing has to be annoying in some way. Never underestimate the power of minor irritation to drive people to improve their lives.

@ianharrison5758

Жыл бұрын

@@AiluridaeAureus exactly. There has to be some kind of drive for growth that doesn’t mean some have to starve so you can stay rich. Both are bad and id do a lot More to stop one form existing than the other. You can pay for taste, which is fine because I barely taste anything and it literally has no effect on whether I’ll be able to buy the room my bed is in next month, for the 16th time. Unhoused and unfed people are in more objective suffering than anyone who only Lacks good tasting food and architectural design within their own personal taste. I’d never be convinced that one society isn’t worse for that reason. So if I had no other option I’d choose socialism. Instead I’d rather just provide those who come after me to exist how they choose. I don’t make them work for anything and if they want to do work for anything then they will. Unless scarcity is literally the only possible reason people would want to take the time to do long term shit, I just don’t think there’s a way you can stop progress in any direction no matter what it’s towards. We have a drive to survive, forcing us to stay unified in every way we don’t have to be is unrealistic and gets harder as time goes on. So eventually everything will change, so just be sensible, provide for those who come into existence with your power generation or give them the ability to generate their own, and let societies surrounded by different purposes exist by virtue of being the first one to get there. Let those who will who pay for the cost of a choice to be the ones who makes it

Congrats on the marriage. Hoping you the best for the future.

@politicallyunreliable4985

4 жыл бұрын

There is be mini Isaacs?

@albertjackinson

4 жыл бұрын

@@politicallyunreliable4985 Maybe. Wonder if his upload schedule might slow a bit, but I doubt it; he's been putting out these videos for years. He's a productivity machine I bet :D

@Mdp52

4 жыл бұрын

Ditto. 😁

The mere term 'social credit' sends a chill up my spine.

@90kalos1

4 жыл бұрын

Right!

@pavelvoynov5408

4 жыл бұрын

As discussed in the video, it's a fancy new phrase for a basic feature of human societies.

@darkblood626

4 жыл бұрын

​@@pavelvoynov5408 If you can't see the obvious problems and consequences of trying to enforce that 'basic feature' with technology then I have to question if there's even a point trying to talk to you. 1) it's an authoritarians wet dream. 2) it would mean the death of all social progress, which is why it's an authoritarians wet dearm. Norms change when people push them, but social credit scores would make all but impossible to do so.

@terminsane

4 жыл бұрын

@@pavelvoynov5408 its a way for the sociopath elites to enslave people. They believe they know best, and you will be deprived of liberty unless you obey.

@calebr7199

4 жыл бұрын

Much like social credits I also dislike credit scores.

Hi Isaac. How are you? I stutter. My parents tried to fix me with elocution (weekly sessions), public performances, poetry and prose recitals. I sort of fixed myself. My point is that I am emotionally and intellectually moved by your presentations. This is my first comment on YT, I am very private. Respectfully, Dom

@beskamir5977

4 жыл бұрын

> "elocution " Me: ummm... ethics?!?

@VelvetKitsune

4 жыл бұрын

@@beskamir5977 "The skill of clear and expressive speech, especially of distinct pronunciation and articulation." Elocution, not electrocution, haha.

@patrickaycock3655

4 жыл бұрын

Ive grown attached to isaacs voice. I actually dont want him to get better, in the sense of he is instantly recognizable to me, much like hawking.

@patrickaycock3655

4 жыл бұрын

@Dom never doubt who you are. People will either love or hate you. Make the distinction clear. I know lots pf people with speech difficulties and wouldn't have them change for the world. And if i knew you, id probably feel the same.

@philipwacker4629

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickaycock3655 Yes. A friend of mine is bodily severly limited, but it always pays to be patient and listen to what he thinks and says. I respect his opinion. world view and humor very much. That being said, if you are have the chance to improve the way you speak (and I'm not talking about cute or funny or whatever little speech impediments) you should absolutely do so as well as possible. Maybe you want to make new friends or anticipate the people who invest and take their time to listen even though it can be tiring - it's nothing but a positive to make it easier for them. And for yourself as well, as it may speed and lighten up conversations, and also strenghten your self confidence. @Home Tennis Practice: I am not an expert on stuttering at all and do not know anyone who does. I just know it can be caused by a lot of things, there are even many types of it, and usually stress and nervousness is somehow involved. You seem to be quite young, so don't rush and stress yourself. I don't know your parents, but I can imagine they don't want "to fix you" but one aspect of your behaviour that they know can become or already is a difficulty in life. Whatever therapeutical measures they come up with may be helpful, may make things worse, may just be a pain in the ass, - like speaking in front of an audience is definitely something most of us find awkward and tough. I do like that you think into the direction of "fixing yourself" as opposed to feel pressured into it. I would recommend to feel inside and see in which direction you want to develop and work on that, and also convey how you feel about that. Getting a grip on stuttering is definitely something positive. Reaching out to people is definitly something positive, too, especially if you wish for conversation and interchange with others - so, nice to see your comment here! :)

I have to tell you how happy I am that you’re getting married, congratulations to you! Normally this isn’t something I’d care much about, but I’ve been watching your channel for a long time and I’ve always looked forward to your next video for years, you’re a guy I truly want to succeed, mainly in exploring the boundaries of science on a broader scale and a deeper look into topics than anyone else I’ve encountered. My viewership has been waning as I’ve been so busy with work the past six months. You’ve been an inspiration for me in so many ways, to subscribe to Audible, to think about the big picture in life - humanity’s future, and even to play more stellaris! You are truly my favourite science(-fiction?) KZreadr, and now that I’m back on board after watching this one video, I can’t wait to go through everything I’ve missed and go back to that nostalgic feeling of wondering where we are going next and what I’m gonna toss around in my head as I fall asleep for the next week! I wish you and yours all the best, if anyone deserves to be comfortable and happy, it’s you :)

@elvimartinez5629

4 жыл бұрын

have a good weding

@lemerkin3633

4 жыл бұрын

Elvi Martinez thank you

CONGRATULATIONS ISAAC!!! You have been one of my very favorite KZread personalities for quite a long time; it warms my heart to hear that you've found your other half. I wish you all the happiness the both of you deserve.

Eartahs and Dustahs get de money, but nothin' for Beltaloadah!

@oscarherr4198

4 жыл бұрын

as it should

@uncommonsense_3602

4 жыл бұрын

GarlicPudding Fo da belt!

@gaiusjuliuspleaser

4 жыл бұрын

@@oscarherr4198 You welwala, ke?

@ellenmcgowen

4 жыл бұрын

Real Belters are robots!

@DeltafangEX

4 жыл бұрын

Heh.

A quote from the movie The Wheeler Dealers (1963) Henry Tyroon : "You don't go wheelin' 'n' dealin' for money. You do it for fun. Money's just the way you keep score."

Oh nice let me get my drink and snack

@Skylancer727

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, I already ate and drank my snacks minutes before it posted. :(

@michaelspencer8024

4 жыл бұрын

@@Skylancer727 then you won't get hungry or thirsty during the video then : )

@amsolicurio

4 жыл бұрын

I cant drink or eat during this time :(

@gamespotlive3673

4 жыл бұрын

I always get oreos and coke like in the picture.

Congratulations on getting married Isaac! Here a toast to you and Sarah. As they say in Rome: FELICIOR AUGUSTO, MELIOR TRAIANO(Latin for: "may you be more fortunate than Augustus and better than Trajan")

@albertjackinson

4 жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity, are you either an ancient history buff or a historian? I just thought you might be because you knew that phrase.

@danielbakergill

4 жыл бұрын

Man, I sure hope it doesn't turn out like Trajan. Lol

@IONATVS

4 жыл бұрын

Comrade Dan while certainly lacking when judged by later moral standards, the Romans considered him one of the “Five Good Emperors” and gave him the title optimus princeps (best prince/best ruler) for his somewhat mythologized virtue. It is that picture of Trajan as symbol of when the Empire was at its territorial peak and the Emperors ruled “fairly” (according to Roman ideas of jurisprudence), and built great public works for all the people of Rome to enjoy that the phrase is calling back to, not the more nuanced reality. So the sentiment is still good, even though Trajan wasn’t so much.

@aabb-ev1vh

4 жыл бұрын

@@IONATVS transformer trajan

Great video Arthur! :)

Congrats! Especially on pulling off a social distancing wedding (& I thought my march bday sucked this year!). The dancefloor will be... Confusing however.

@keithwinget526

4 жыл бұрын

The Floor-Tape Flamenco will be a new hit sensation...

@FLPhotoCatcher

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it will be interesting to hear how things went. And they are both homeschooled! So am I, and I think that it results in smarter adults. But, I think that being smarter has made me more picky when looking for a woman who I could eventually marry, and may be the reason why I'm still single. Anyone know of a good-looking woman of above-average intelligence and creativity? :D

@advaitpilkhane2976

4 жыл бұрын

FLPhotoCatcher Yeah that’s not it, friend.

@capitalh1895

4 жыл бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher Maybe don't be so thirsty in random comments on futurism KZread vids! Thats a start...

@Bruh-hq1hx

4 жыл бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher well first up don't talk about being smarter than Most people without proof that makes one sound very condescending

Congratulations!!! Hell of a time for a honeymoon, I'm sure there will be plenty of once in a lifetime experiences with the level of people staying home! Stay safe man; we need your levity and creativity you are truly inspiring

3:01 Those pyramid structures always remind me of Goa'uld ships

@ts90000

4 жыл бұрын

False gods! Shol'va!

Cyborg Lenin: *_"Allow me to (re-)introduce myself..."_*

I think my favorite fictional currency in a sci fi setting was Bottlecaps in the Fallout Games. :) credits in mass effect just wasn't original. mind you, I think the volus who administer mass effect's galactic economy are awesome little buggers for a species so tubby. but the currency name isn't even all that original. also one more way in which star trek actually does have money, albeit a small case study, is that the crew of voyager gets a certain allotment of replicator rations and holodeck hours a week. And they often trade the former or invite friends to join them in the latter. If the holodeck time was taken out of the hosting crew member's allotment, it could be a lot like treating someone to dinner. As far as replicator rations went, they were as much for stuff as food. And if you used them all up making something off to the mess hall with you; where Neelix's home cooking and exotic ingredient choices save wear and tear on the replicators /and/ act as a sufficient deterrent against waste.

@kinguin7

4 жыл бұрын

Always cringed when someone gave a speech in Star Trek about how they'd become too advanced to be motivated by money, when a couple episodes prior there'd been a squabble over resources or job performance. Just another name for the same thing.

congratulations on the wedding! You're my favorite online smart person and I'm super happy for you!

wedding and economics really are a perfect union.

@Wtfukker

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, whatever economy you think you had before marriage is gone now .... 😂😂😂

7:30 "When everyone's super.... no one will be"

Robots and AI will run the world while humanity watches TV. 🙂

@Skylancer727

4 жыл бұрын

We should also expect a raise in the suicide rate, people fighting over politics, possibly politically charged conflicts, and perhaps more people into the fields of sciences, philosophy, and other thinking fields which AI will take longer to bleed into.

@FuturologyChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Skylancer727 Yeah I agree AI will be good by enabling us to stop menial tasks and take on professions of greater significance.

@artix0022

4 жыл бұрын

Well maybe humanity will be more involved with VR worlds or universes :v

@viktorbimmel4007

4 жыл бұрын

The way it looks right now, humans enslave their fellow humans just out of spite. Lets hope we do not programm that trait into our AI overlords.

@pentagramprime1585

4 жыл бұрын

Skynet can have the planet as long as I can watch Season 5 of "Better Call Saul."

I'm out of work because of lockdowns so my economic future looks pretty grim.

@Ag3nt0fCha0s

4 жыл бұрын

It is an opportunity to find something better! Embrace it!

@IAmTheRealBill

4 жыл бұрын

Your longer term one, however, is brighter than you may think Historically there is a significant rebound and improvement in robustness as the market responds to the shifts that happen - from economic ones (such as relying on other countries going down) to cultural ones (increased delivery infrastructure). It’ll take a bit of time, but it is also an opportunity to transition into a more long-term robust path. And thanks, btw, for identifying the cause as the lockdowns rather than the virus or the illness it produces.

@zs9652

4 жыл бұрын

I hope everything works out for the better in your life.

@franksmertkopf1593

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAmTheRealBill Appreciate the kind words, thank you.

@piers_bellman

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAmTheRealBill I would agree, I think in general this period is a really good opportunity to look around at this world we live in and see how things could be a lot better for everyone in the future! It really has exposed some harsh truths about our society, and the ways that different people are and will be affected to different extents by the economic realities of the system. @frank smertkopf I'm really hope that things do get better after this!

Love your lectures! Congrats on the wedding!! I hope you two stay healthy and happy during all of this! Keep being awesome!!!

Will smarter people really lead to a higher Dunbar's number? It could just as easily stay exactly the same. While smarter people means more mental effort to dedicate to tracking interpersonal relationships, it also means more complex interpersonal relationships. This can often be seen in societies of nobilities in secure periods in history (Heian-period Japan, British Landed Gentry) where the rules of etiquette and relaitonships become extremely complex when people have little else to devote their time to. Improving the memory of the average person also raises the standard for what the average person is expected to recall about their close friends and relatives.

@haydenap

4 жыл бұрын

I think the idea was that as we increase human processing power through mind/machine interfacing we can lean on the computers to store and recall massive amounts of data. Data that typically our mind can't hold as much of.

20:41 that one question that everyone always asks - what does everyone need? Still no answer lol :) I still think it'll be based on scarcity - like novelty or what's not easy to come by but grows the world - yes, purpose within the context of one's circumstances and immediate needs!

Nothing about corporations? (I know are evil) but today play a important role in word economics, I find ridiculous assumptions that in the future all forms of economic activity would be identical with what have today(and even some forms will disappear without a specific reason) , we are like a blacksmith from the middle ages trying to predict modern steel industry.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

Even Star Trek have corporations. 90's presumption that they would dominate world was proven incorrect, as they actually can't work outside carefully sheltered ecosystems. Not understanding that is actually one of reason why USA stop being relevant in modern world.

@theOrionsarms

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro corporation and states work together, sometime they control a stat, I'm not predict that in the future this would be the case, but talking about future economics without a chapter about corporation seems pointless.(also he never mentioned smaller firms, only talking about individual people and society in general). The 90th prediction that would be a whale (corporation)in every pond was obviously wrong, but corporations are doing better today and they dominate their environment witch is whole world market.

@theOrionsarms

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryanward10 the Chinese guvernments would step in to protect their economical interest and Chinese corporations,( like HUAWEI and other) capitalism is not a feature of one single country , military power it's only a method to promote a country purposes(or of the grup of people that control a country) , and using financial institutions and trade barriers it's allowed too, I don't said that corporations are all god but even a villain have its own motivation and will continue theirs lifestyle until would be forced to change it. I wish that future would be brighter and without the today dirty fighting, but where it's a great gain it's a temptation to break the rules or change it in own interests , that's the human nature and who falow it would dominate the game.

Congratulations! I haven't been following during this semester, but I am glad for your happiness.

I've been watching since ~30,000 and it's strangely satisfying to watch a channel you always thought was deserving of more subscribers/views blow up.

I'm guessing he made this because Economics Explained stepped on his toes first.

@tomikexboii5403

4 жыл бұрын

Link please?

@Ag3nt0fCha0s

4 жыл бұрын

I bet it is because his wife has demanded everything for the wedding :-p

@Torus2112

4 жыл бұрын

​@Jay Blake kzread.info/dash/bejne/iK6XsLKEhNWpaZM.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIZl2cppnMuWeps.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z3ZktcVuYs2yqMo.html

@StarboyXL9

4 жыл бұрын

@@Torus2112 Lol that moron is an unironic Communist who has the sheer arrogance to call himself "Economics Explained". If you know economics well enough to explain it to others, its impossible to be a Communist, because the prerequisite for being a Communist is failing to understand the most basic level of economics.

@Falcodrin

4 жыл бұрын

@@StarboyXL9 in many future societal concepts communism is fairly probable in most areas. Who runs the machines that produce all the goods without any employees? Currently that is probably going to be a very wealthy individual under capitalism. Once those people reach a certain level of power they become the government. I imagine the first example would be Elon musk if he decides to claim king of Mars after colonies are established and he owns all the hardware and land.

Hi Arthur, wishing you & your beautiful bride an unnaturally long & happy life together. 🥂 🎉 😊 ..

Took a bong rip, watered the garden in the morning sun, and now watching SFIA. Today is looking good so far. And Congrats Issac!

Congratulations and Blessings to both of you!!! I wish you the best as you start your life together!

Congratulations on the wedding! May your years be full of joy together :)

@LaundryFaerie

4 жыл бұрын

This. Much happiness to you both.

When ease of use reaches a critical point, any money you could earn in that space goes away. Things are useful because they are hard. That said, I think computer stuff might not be vocational in the future. It could just become too easy, something done by AIs on command. You come up with an idea and tell your personal AI to do it.

Thank you very much & congratulations!

Congratulations!!!! The very best of luck to you both!!

Congratulations man! Hopefully we dont start building mega structures during the honeymoon. Wouldn't want you to miss them.

Energy (or heat energy) Credits seems like an eventual end point.of currency, if we assume super automation and AI, as the amount of work that can be done, even if automated, will be limited by that energy (dissipation) capacity. And so each person gets an amount of energy credits they can spend. And just think of a virtual world where you can literally jockey for the position of king of the world, while shooting lasers and fireballs at other people, without fear of actually killing them. So much more interesting than the relative mundanity of real life. But those worlds would require processing power, which produces heat. So obviously, a virtual world would have to charge their users energy credits. Which would then imply that it is going to be more of a last ditch effort to make true AI within the game, if they could allow the players (who are also payers) to effectively generate that content for them, without them running even more on their energy budgets. However, Energy Credits would be pretty weird. Just because you spent your energy credits (or gave them to someone else) doesn't actually remove them from the "economy," unless your energy usage was ultimately recorded and collected by a more or less central authority. (Less in that using electricity might actually sap directly from your "bank" account, rather than passing through anyone's hands. Just gone - not traded - not taxed. Poof.) This is a problem because even though someone paid you energy credits, if they aren't collected and destroyed when spent on energy, then you will have something like inflation where the actual value of an energy credit goes down But let's assume that such collection and removal of the credits would be infeasible. Well then, we could see something like a "temporary" currency. (This isn't really a currency, as it doesn't really hold value, but we are talking about a society where heat dissipation is the cap on their activity. Value probably isn't all too necessary to hold) But thing is, if your bill is going to expire on April second, who would ever accept it on April first? So an issuer of temporary currency like this would have to preempt this eventual valuelessness of the currency, and instead of setting a hard timer on when it's invalid, the "worth" of the issued currency is a function of time since issuance and the face value of the bill. Say, every unit of time that passes, it's worth half as much as in the previous unit (month, years, whatever).Eventually the cost of simply transferring the old credits is greater than just tossing it aside. Of course, if collecting the credits is somehow impossible with a purely digital economy, it's as simple as having bank accounts reduced by half every [time period].

@Ramiromasters

4 жыл бұрын

In video games a popular way to reduce your currency its to simply reduce the amount of quests or reward per quest.

@SangoProductions213

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ramiromasters Not really. Generally your gold per reward goes up as time progresses on (inflation, and increasing levels and what not). Instead, if you want to control the amount of money in an online economy, you create money sinks which just remove the gold from the economy (like repair bills).

@IAmTheRealBill

4 жыл бұрын

The notion of energy “credits” isn’t new and is still riddled with holes. The fundamental failure of energy credits based on actual energy is that the energy itself has an inherent value but when used is consumed, and can be increased by increasing production beyond increased demand. Thus the use of energy reduces the money supply, including the creation of new units of the money supply. Thus it would inevitably shift to a fiat currency not connected to energy anymore. There are deeper and more issues with the notion but that is a good start.

@DeltafangEX

4 жыл бұрын

Seems somewhat reminiscent to the potential "reverse-interest" financial system found in Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy, if I'm interpreting it correctly. That and the "0.5 child credit per person" population control system found in the same series have been an interesting thing to mull over across the years.

Congratulations on your wedding!!!!!! Hope you two have a wonderful life and full of happiness!!!!!!!

Congratulations Issac, wish you the best, you are a great source of inspiration!!

The point about cities I've been thinking about recently. When Starlink goes live, and if it's bandwidth and ping are as good as hoped. I can see there being a lot more white collar workers moving rural.

I'm gonna throw my two pence in and say, it seems that some of the major hurdles that a civilisation approaching post-scarcity might face are discussed with solutions in the book 'The Conquest of Bread'. In particular it talks a lot about better ways of looking at the organisation of work, and the relationships of control between different people. A small disclaimer that it is over 100 years old but I see a lot of the ideas as being very relevant here! Here's a link if anyone is interested: www.gutenberg.org/files/23428/23428-h/23428-h.htm

Congradulations to you and yours .All the best. Look forward to more. Philippa

Congratulations Isaac! Thank you for all your hard work making these programs. I wish you and Sarah all the happiness there is going :)

@isaacarthurSFIA

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

perfect timing, my snack just finished cooking

Planning a wedding during Covid was the easy part. I'm wondering how they're going to do a social distancing honeymoon.

A very enjoyable episode thanks Isaac. And congratulations on your upcoming wedding!

Congratulations Isaac! I wish you both a happy and bright future!

Any of your videos + modern capitalism is an absolute nightmare. Here's hoping workers are continuously liberated by the future.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

Actually capitalism isn't a problem. Politic is.

@antred11

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro Actually capitalism IS the problem.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

@@antred11 Being alive also is. But we talk here about viable problems, not emo bullshit. Capitalism is just a tool. The question is if we use it wisely, or start worshiping pretending that it itself solve all problems. When it is old knowledge that unregulated capitalism lead to monopoly, so own demise (American politicians promote that lie deliberately to gain power). It is actually the same problem like with lack of government in anarchy. If there is no such, then who stop some random gang to make new one? It is why even modern anarchist usually consider only deregulation, not actual desolation of it.

@brb8407

4 жыл бұрын

Communism/anarchism or anything like it is fucking terrifying. We've seen how bad it was in the past, we can see how bad it is in the present, and hopefully we won't get to see how bad it will be in the future. Capitalism has its problems, and the form of it that pervades in today's world is far from the best form of capitalism, yet it still allows people the pursuit of happiness. A free and capitalistic post-scarcity society would be a pretty fucking nice ride in my opinion.

@brb8407

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro You should research libertarianism, sounds like you might find it interesting

well i see three ways the economy could turn out : technocracy : sociologist , psicologist , engineers take control of the gov. and rule everything thinking about the best efficency , and generally speaking a very layered society rises up in the shape of a high meritocracy , in which studying becomes the main objective for pepoles , in that sense the internet might be made even more addictive in order to lower the amount of pepoles at the governament. communism: by this i mean the working class becomes the 99% of the population when this appens, shit will hit the fan really hard : the entepenuers will either give them rights making the workers more aware of their importance , or they'll take rights away from them making the workers angryer , this will lead to a revolution and the extablishment of a social organization in which a non stockpilable form of currency get distributed for the labor put in the society , when a post scarcity-ish situation is reached , this organization will be gradually reduced and then evryone will be free and 80% of the entratainment will be working for our hown objectives, in a state of perfect direct democracy . fascist/autoritarian: the most likely right now imo : with the excuse for security the state will enforce a state of isolation and hatered for every other subculture they might not get destroyed but a strong isolation will be formed , with the member most rapresentative of each cultures be extablished as leader to protect the intellectual enviroment , languages will diverge and i took inspiration from this video made by a british turtle ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4Rlt8x8kpOwYco.html ), anyhow an hyper-agreessive form of fascism wouldn't survive ( if you declare war on everything else you'll eventually meet a stronger economy or a revolution will spark inside and the bubble will burst ) . the modern liberal democratic republic with welfare was the best form of govenrament , but it has probably gone outdated by now : telecommunication has probably made direct democracy possible and quick information offered by the interent will make it practical , capitalism was one of the first systems that made work the center of the economy , better systems have been theorised now, in short this is the fence time like the 1700 in which a revolution isn't happening but is waiting for a spark , somenthing big enough that the general public/governament won't be able to ignore anymore ... also congratulation for the weeding i've recently subbed to this channel and i've been really pleased by your content .

@terminsane

4 жыл бұрын

The best government is one that exists solely to protect individuals freedom and liberty. Instead of enforcing a singular ideal on everyone, it protects your right to live your own ideals, and prevents others from interfering

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

Generally there are two ways: 1) Star Trek scenario: So despite automatization of economy, people are provided with basic social welfare and allowed to expres themselves as they like. I remind that it doesn't mean lack of capitalism, only it is properly regulated so it wouldn't destroy itself. 2) Anti-Metropolis: So fascist government replace everyone with robots, common people turn into techno-barbarians ruled by small group of privileged, until they destroy themselves and join the crowd fighting for survival with Killer-drones until humanity extinct. So most probable scenario now.

@terminsane

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro we will never have startrek. That level of technology makes it too easy to enslave people. We will be mindless automatons existing to serve the master sociopath.

@davidegaruti2582

4 жыл бұрын

@@terminsane idk if i am too optimistic but i think you're underestimating humans : we generally speaking have knack for surviving , so either machines just "outrun" us in the space race or we go extinct in a nuclear war/ manmade pandemic , and machines take on our legacy ...

@davidegaruti2582

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro well i don't think we have only those two ways , pepole have speculated that this is the scanario that luddist have dreadded since the 19th century , however i think this industrial revolution will expand what jobs are : while AI are becoming more and more competent the social network hivemind is expanding and refining itself in ways that sociologist should seriusly look into (think about the raid at area 51 , yeah nothing append , but , pepole whent there following the command that the hive mind gave , this is impressive given that it became self aware around the time of the arambe meme ) so yeah the market for automatically generated intellectual contnent will get saturated pretty quickly : at that point i think that the content made by the machine will be revised by someone who is hired , in order for him to you know make the work acceptable , then music/books/ animation will probably have a golden age , since we will have lots of pepole, writing think about sweatshops of writers , these rewiever will inevitably ask for rights to have more liberty with their work shorter shifts, And this will lead to a golden age of work strikes , and workers rights , that will lead either to regressive policies , or to the strenghtening of the hive mind , see were this is going ? To survive this countries will have to isolate themselves or get inglobated by the hive mind and eventually the hive mind will launch a meme : "Storm Amazon Headquarters They Won't Stop Us"

Congratulations Issac! Very happy for you!

Wow! Congratulations Arthur! Wishing you folks all the best from Hungary!

we're getting paid for 'buying' oil, we must be in energy abundance of post-scarcity levels!!!! great big /S

I hope we spread people out rather than condense them.

@WAX1138

4 жыл бұрын

Read or watch a video about the "Mouse Utopia Experiment". I agree with you and so does the evidence.

Congrats Best wishes to you both

23:36 so excited for that, as that's I believe in our immediate future

This episode feels like one it was not as good and under researched compared to your others. The reason people think money won’t exist in the future isn’t because everything will be dirt cheep, but because automation will drive up unemployment so much that people’s purchasing power will fall so much that most companies will become unprofitable. P.S. Happy Honeymoon

@Chad_Thundercock

4 жыл бұрын

Red Brigade I mean, the man does have some other priorities right now. Given that, and his incredible history of amazing content, I think one ever-so-slightly off episode can be understood.

China has already have some time of social currency...

@voidremoved

4 жыл бұрын

They haven't even done it properly but it is the way to go.

@jorenellenbroek

4 жыл бұрын

Here in the Netherlands, like in many other places, i risk getting fined to pay when i partake in social gatherings. Social capital and currency is all around

@thomas.02

4 жыл бұрын

correct me if im wrong: word of mouth has always existed, but the internet made such words way more accessible through space and time; similarly, respect, reputation etc. as a social currency has always existed, but our tech can amplify this currency many times while making it (way too) easy for all to see

@Bruh-hq1hx

4 жыл бұрын

@@borbo23 yeah but being critical or going over the road at red can affect your social credit score enough that you literally can't traveled anywhere because you aren't allowed to take Planes trains and Busses

@fatetestarossa2774

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bruh-hq1hx indeed the commie's social credits are an EVIL Tool for tyrants

Congratulations and much happiness and health to you both!

Amazing content keep up the great work and congratulations

I feel like "post-scarcity" is always relative. Here's what I mean by this. The way we typically imagine four dimensions is to first think about what our three-dimensional world would be like for a two-dimensional being; we then assume that a four-dimensional world would look similar to us who live in three dimensions. In the same way, a good way to think about the future is to imagine what the present looks like to people in the past. For the vast majority of human history, poverty was a universal condition. To someone living two hundred years ago, ours would look like a post-scarcity society. Supermarkets would be a glimpse of heaven for those who had to grow their own food or pay over the odds with unreliable traders for a limited set of options. Modern healthcare would be a miracle to people from a time when life expectancy was about thirty. Even notions like democracy would be revelatory to those used to living under tyrannical kings. Truly, they would think, we are living in the best of all possible worlds. But we are not, of course. Even in the west, homelessness and food poverty still exist. But, even aside from the issues around inequality, modernity promises more and therefore we *expect* more. Capitalism has raised the living standards of everyone, but (in addition to issues of inequality) it has concomittantly raised standards in the other sense of the word - ie what people are satisfied with. Would a future "post-scarcity" be similar? If we could travel forward to it, then, after the initial culture shock, we'd be amazed, and likewise think we were living in paradise. Might not be the same for the natives, though.

@TraditionalAnglican

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Potts - You might want to look at Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs - www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html In a Post Scarcity Society, there simply is no reason to worried that the bottom 2 levels (Physiological & Safety Needs) will be met, because they are met in abundance. People will still grumble, but the stuff they grumble about will change - www.brookoverleadership.com/2018/03/25/low-grumbles-high-grumbles-and-metagrumbles/

@michaelstodovski2219

4 жыл бұрын

The living Standards of humanity has increaced in the world *in spite of Capitalism.* Not because of it. Because of *Technology.* Which more than half of the time isn't spawned by neitier the free market nor private ownership... But by state spending. Capitalism could also be argued that it's actualy a *bottleneck* for technological advancement. That it actually slows our progress down and our max potential not being reached because recources are spent for whats Profitable, and not necessarily on what's most advanced or benificial.

@alexpotts6520

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelstodovski2219 Except what is profitable is actually a pretty good measure of what is beneficial. Profitability is, essentially, how willing people are to pay for something. Nobody made a profit doing stuff everyone else considered useless. You give a government money to invest in a specific goal, such as a covid-19 vaccine, and in that case I will concede they will probably outperform the private sector just because they've got access to more money and don't have to worry about competition (although, of course, they would still involve the private sector in their supply chain). But normally the imperatives are not so clear. You tell them to invest in "technology" and they will have no idea what to do. The private sector has the capacity to invest in hundreds of ideas, most of which fail, and discard the useless ones. It also uses price signal mechanisms to determine much quicker than a government (or at least a government opposed to capitalism) could which ideas are and are not worth continuing. State spending has led to some amazing breakthroughs. It put a man on the moon. No private company would have done that. But equally, the reason the space race wasn't profitable was because it did sod all to raise living standards on either side of the Iron Curtain and was done basically as Cold War propaganda, for each side to flex their muscles and show that their system was better than the other one. (Governments have also undertaken more "useful" grand projects, by the way. A good example might be the Human Genome Project, which started a still-ongoing medical revolution. But here, because it was more immediately useful to real people, the private sector was far more willing to get involved. In fact the HGP was initially a race between a publicly-funded company and a private one called Genentech, until they realised they were better off working together and the government bought Genentech out.) Basically, if I wanted to achieve one specific breakthrough, I'd probably ask a government or supragovernmental body. If I wanted to raise living standards but had no idea how that should be done, I'd rely on a free market. (I'd still want the government to redistribute, of course. Inequality is bad in its own right of course, but it's also a drag on growth if most people can't afford to buy better goods, because then the profit motive for making them disappears.) Okay, that turned into a very long post - because it is more complicated than "private good, public bad." But on the whole it is most certainly the case that free markets have had the larger influence on the growth in living standards, and even where governments have achieved progress they have done so in partnership with the private sector or with taxes raised from private-sector money.

@alexpotts6520

4 жыл бұрын

@@TraditionalAnglican I *know* about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The thing about MHN is that we have never considered the higher rungs to be an issue for society. The government cannot achieve our own self-actualisation for us. That attitude may change, but I don't see how a futuristic government could do this for us without removing the "self" from "self-actualisation". Or without disturbing, China-style invasions of privacy.

Star Trek's primary worlds of the Federation are post scarcity and need no currency, but some Federation Member Worlds still use Credits as currency and other powers like the Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi use their own forms of currency like gold pressed latinum etc... So the Federation uses Credits when dealing with different cultures inside the UFP and these other Galactic Empires to conduct trade, commerce etc... While on Earth, Vulcan, Andoria and Tellar Prime the core Federation Worlds have no need for currency because they are the most advanced.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

People also commonly forget that regular people don't have need for money, but actual business still is a think in Federation.

@marccolten9801

4 жыл бұрын

Star Trek wrote itself into a corner by saying, or at least implying, that the Federation, or at the very least Starfleet, doesn't use money. This is obviously untrue as we see them eating in restaurants and buying things. To suggest that a restaurant doesn't want money, just personal satisfaction, must extend that to their employees and suppliers. It's absurd to say the people who make their dishes, supply their food (and all their employees and suppliers) and haul off their garbage are also in it for the fun of it. I've even seen fans suggest that the scene in Star Trek IV where Kirk has no money for pizza, and agrees with his 20th century companion that they don't use money in the future proves something. It is obviously a joke on a par with "I left my wallet in my other pants". Unless the Federation is shown as completely cut off from the outside world there us some kind of economy and payment system.

@IAmTheRealBill

4 жыл бұрын

Surf TrekTonics there are episodes in STNG and DS9 which indicate that the alleged post-scarcity from the replicator is not universal within the Federation. We have times where within the Federation there are scarcity issues resolved by trade. When you dig deeper it isn’t the Federation, but just Earth, that has the alleged utopia.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAmTheRealBill Yup. People commonly confuse those two.

Congratulations. May you have a long and fruitful life together. All the best to you

Congrats!!!

Congratulations on the up coming nuptials, one thing that comes sometimes with marriage is children, children are a reason many people get things. The old saying is children are expensive, they grow so regular buying of clothes, toys, education, and the like. This is from a great grand parent of one school age small person.

Ohh its Thursday

Congratulations to both of you. Happy and long life!

CONGRATULATIONS ISAAC!

No Dark Matter? *nO DeALs hUmaN!* Congratulations btw! 👍

I’ve always thought there must be planets out there that have evolved past our system of buying and selling products to each other to “keep the economy going”

@DJ1573

4 жыл бұрын

You have to think about the posibilty of myriads of other cultural Backgrounds their ideas could be centered around and the Systems that Would be in place at the Time. Maybe something like that will be archieved with the advent of personal 3D printets

@jsn1252

4 жыл бұрын

Evolved past? Economies are a relatively new invention, created to solve the problems of complexity and unequal conditions. The "economy going" is people trading things of value, be that goods, services, or raw value (money), for things they value more. It isn't some merry-go-round we spin for the hell of it; it's the means by which finite resources are distributed.

Congratulations! Also thank you for your time in doing these videos!

Bravo Isaac! Hope you and your bride are safe. May you always be excellent to each other ☺

First of all: congratulations on getting married! A point of criticism for this video: it does not adress the concept of ownership and positions itself rather firmly in a capitalistic framework- something which really cannot be taken for granted, and really undercuts the realism of the predictions in this video. You, in my opinion correctly, presuppose the usefulness of currency in a future economy. Now whether there is an actual need for it is debatable, but lets assume that even if it isn't needed it at least smoothes things over. The existence of currency directly puts power in those that have a lot of it, and this has consequences if it is allowed to accumilate, and if you do not adress ownership, it is and that causes major issues for a lot of these predictions. In your examples: if people still rent their homes, regardless of any UBI, that means someone *owns* that home and wealth is allowed to accumilate in the hands of the landlord, probably to obscene degrees if today's world is anything to go by. If such a person of means decides to scrape together enough currency to buy up or construct part of the local dyson swarm, does that then technically allow that person of means to turn *off* that power under their agency and create artificial scarcity? Or leverage it against a populace for influence? How do you keep money out of politics when only a select few (those who own the means of production, be they land to build homes on, O'neil cylinders to live in or physical robots and/or their AI) can accumilate money while the vast majority of people is essentially disenfranchised out of similar power by virtue of their being next to no jobs? This would allow very few people, whose interests are alligned directly against the majority of the population, to excert an obscene amount of pressure and influence on society. So when you ask 'what would people even spend their money on?' well, they'd probably save it up to purchase those means of production so that they are no longer dependant on vulnerable centralized programs like a UBI or the overlordship of their neighbourhood Dyson swarm mogul. But when we're talking scales like the ones described in this video, that gap is nigh unclosable. To bring this to a point: in a world where this accumilation of wealth and the creation of false scarcity is essentially a given, it is in our current time, things like a UBI would be very unlikely because it would go against the interests of the moneyed class to have the populace by remotely independent of them- and it would certainly not be in their interests to allow for easy satisfaction of the heirarchy of needs. A classic real world example is how in the US healthcare is often tied to your employment rather than something you control as an individual: it makes you extremely dependent on your employer. Not even the most basic security of your health, pretty low on the Maslow hierarchy, is safe unless it is explicitely protected. This pattern will only increase in the future unless it is made impossible. TL;DR In an economy such where private ownership of the means of production is still possible to any significant degree, it *will* lead to massive inequality and will undercut the cushy, nigh-post-scarcity economy you describe, make it impossible even. I felt that was missing from the video. I know this channel doesn't usually delve into politics, but you really can't seperate it from economics. Have a nice honeymoon!

@MichaelDeHaven

4 жыл бұрын

Good points. I really do believe the future will be bright but these issues must be thought about. Especially with life extension, or effective immortality, our lives become one long unending game of Monopoly. No restarts of the game. What are the leveling mechanisms, if any? Should there be? Should limits be placed on an entity's accumulation of power? How are new players to the system treated/empowered?

@Incestrul_Lust

4 жыл бұрын

Do you know any landlords?

@florianmerten7348

4 жыл бұрын

thanks .. i might watch it tomorrow again and add some thoughts (it's a pain since my english is mediocre).. i'm a long time fan of this channel, but this episode has a lot of logical flaws and just.. naivety i mean it's all very speculative in any case.. for my part i'm very sure that there will be no meaningful private economy or ownership .. i think it can still be a good living for everyone just because material wellbeing for a couple of billion (useless) people will just be no big deal.. i guess i would speculate that there is a small class of people that owns the machines and everyone else who lives of there good will about currency: if i'm wrong and there will be a meaningful degree of capitalism, than money is the way how the state collects its share via taxes. that would be the main reason for having currency in the future.. i mean real money-currency .. on the lover level of the common folk they can trade in bitcoins or whatever they like to exchange there meaningless little posessions... yea.. i need sleep

@MysticKenji2

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Really wish he'd thought more about this and discussed it in the video.

@amandadausman7845

4 жыл бұрын

We could grant everyone a certain amount of capital as a birthright in a hypothetical post-scarcity society. If everyone is self-sufficient by default, then all transactions truly are voluntary. I don't think we're going to get there via UBI, though, because of the flaws you mentioned.

*blasts the Soviet Union Anthem in the background*

@endi3795

4 жыл бұрын

Babe it's time for the Soviet reunion.

@Ag3nt0fCha0s

4 жыл бұрын

Why not? We use their rockets...

Best part of my week!!!

You are both very lucky people to have found each other. Congratulations on the wedding, stay happy and be safe!

*Soviet anthem*

He is getting married and when this quarantine ends I will be examining my housing options etc to see if I can get a divorce.

@N.M.E.

4 жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@MichaelDeHaven

4 жыл бұрын

I would add my consolations, but... As a happy child of divorced parents. I'll trust you guys did the right thing for you. All the best in the future.

@Incestrul_Lust

4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

Congrats bro !!

Your casual explanation of money is genius. You explain so well what economists need to know and what people need to know about the economy. I love science.

Social credit systems will be the end of free thought, something everyone should fear.

@fatetestarossa2774

4 жыл бұрын

Agree : (((((

@brb8407

4 жыл бұрын

Amen dude, *NEVER* accept the chip!

@bitbucketcynic

4 жыл бұрын

It will inevitably be used to turn off access to all aspects of civilization to anyone who doesn't kiss the ring hard enough.

@brb8407

4 жыл бұрын

@@bitbucketcynic we can see it happening in China, their social credit system is doing exactly that, and much more. People can get arrested, and thousands are literally disappearing, because their credit is too low.

Honestly it’s frustrating listening to non Marxist economics. It just seems like blind speculation about how things work currently now. You don’t seem to know what a commodity is and that a universal medium is not necessarily a form of money. And money as it exists is a universal equivalent among commodities, it’s value right now is determined on fiat, which is relative to the value of commodities in the market which is determined by socially necessary labor time. I’d be happy to come and have a chat to talk about the Marxist perspective and the prospects of future economic models.

Congrats man!!

Delighted congratulations to you both on your wedding!

congrad bro, it's take a man to make a commitment, enjoy your new life of sharing.

Great episode and congratulations.

Be safe and congratulations you two!

Thank you sir!

Congrats again to you and Sarah Arthur! Wishing you two many happy years!

Congratulations! I wish you the best Isaac.

Isaac we offer you our most excited congratulations!

congrats! i wish the best for u two brotha! Good Luck this weekend‼️

Growing up with Star Trek, I've always thought that mankind would evolve to a society where people wouldn't work for money anymore, but rather towards improving themselves and society as a whole all while travelling the galaxy in search of "strange new worlds, and seeking out new life and new civilizations" in starships. :) But if we are to maintain a monetary system, I feel it would eventually move to a one world currency system of some sort; but such a thing probably won't happen until 100 years or so into the future. As for your marriage(if it's still gonna take place. I know you narrated for this video months ago before the COVID-19 pandemic hit), CONGRATULATIONS; and all the best to you and your wife. :)

Congratulions happy Honny moom. I wich Sarra and You the best Issac!

Isaac, wishing you and Sarah a wonderful wedding and honeymoon and all the happiness you deserve in the future.

Congratulations Isaac!