As you said Daz this was only an experiment to show how these power banks work. I no longer have a van but I still use my Jackery 1000 and Bluetti 1000 and living where we live these power banks helped us over Christmas from 22nd December to the 07 January with only one socket working due to electric surge which damaged our electrics. They kept my fridge and freezer ticking over which was a life saver 🤗

Thanks Darren for doing this test as I’ve bought the Eco Flow River 2Max ( which I think is great) but not got around to trying it with my Airfryer . 👍👍

Really interesting I been waiting weeks for someone to do this exact test thanks I want one of these but it will have to be more powerful as I want to caravan off grid👍👍👍

I think EcoFlow are being a bit disingenuous with their implication that the Ecoflow River2 Pro can run appliances up to 1600W. In the EcoFlow River 2 Pro specs it says "AC Output Pure Sine Wave, 800W total (SURGE 1600W), 230V ~ 50Hz/60Hz and in the instructions it says "It can power devices RATED UP TO 1600W without incurring operation failure due to overload protection." It sounds like it's designed to withstand the initial surge on start up that can happen with some appliances but it's not designed to supply 1600w for prolonged use.

@ChaseDizzie

Жыл бұрын

Makes it perfect for a small, 5000-6000BTU air conditioner with a decent panel to supply power.

I really appreciate your test . This was very informative on a very practical level. Thank you 🙏

I’m very happy with my jackery 1000. I also bought a 1000 watt air fryer, job done. Great video

Darren, your thermometer target temp was set at 63deg which is why it displayed an over-temp warning, still a good experiment. Thanks for sharing.

I have been looking for this information for ages!

Great video. Love the real world demonstration. Thankyou

Hi Daz , both our Air-fryers suggest pre-heating first.. then your fryer is at temperature before cooking food at recommended times.. just like you do with your conventional oven at home etc. Preference for us would be the eco flow 👍

@dianeyoung2914

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I always use pre-heat on mine.

Thanks Daz, this has been my #1 question. Such a shame as I love my airfryer it's the only way I cook now. I'm sure you'll keep looking out and let us know when you find a way to use airfryer off grid

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

Daz powers his air fryer from his motorhome's Eco Tree lithium install, charged from 600W of solar.

@DiAllinson

Жыл бұрын

@@Mevi oh great, thanks for the info

In my camper I use a 24V DC oven. Sure it takes a bit longer than an air fryer but it is much more efficient and easy on power. My camper is 24V so no conversion is needed. The overn pulls from 200-400 watts depending if you use both elements or just top or bottom. I have an air fryer at home and it is amazing how quick it cooks. There is no need to pre-heat it as it heats up very quick. My little oven makes excellent toast too.

We have a Bluetti AC200MAX. It cooks at 200*c with our air fryer. We just got it and it’s amazing

Ankers are great options too with long warranty from a company that's been around for a long time. I have the 767 with a couple of folding panels. Bit more expensive than those but very powerful inverter.

The objectivity is questionable but there is bacon at the end 🎉

@stum8374

Жыл бұрын

Chicken wings too.😂

Good video, thanks for doing this.

Top man Daz Good vids yet again keep it up!!!

Daz, the Meater probe has two thermometers. The external thermometer (black bit) can handle high temps but the pointy end can't handle high temps. To be more accurate as it's usually in meat

Cheers for the comparison. Not sure I’d be happy with a power bank that limits power, under-supplying your plugged in appliances

you should let the air-fryer cool to the same temp between trials as the last one gets the benefit of pre-heating from the others, hence it only pulled 800w.

This was a great video. Thank you. I am very curious about your living quarters. Is this a fifth wheel RV (caravan)? If so what make is it? The woodwork interior is beautiful!

The EcoFlow reduces the AC voltage to provide extended wattage for the cooker. This is only safely workable with resistive loads (heaters) such as the fryer. It's a clever way to avoid tripping the breaker, BUT the heating effect will be proportionally less. That's why several passes were necessary. It's still a handy feature though. Basically it works like a variable speed control on an electric drill. Cheers Rob

good vid on the channel thanks lee

Hi Daz & Tash Im upgrading the power in the van, and thinking of 300 lithium or powering everything from a power bank and 600 on the roof. The EcoFlow will be double the power than my lithium batteries, so If possible what are the pros/cons and what power bank would be best?

Got a meater myself after seeing your review, problem is the internal temp probe cannot go that high, for ref: The ambient sensor of your probe can be used at temperatures up to 527°F/275°C​, and the internal sensor can be used at temperatures up to 212°F/100°C​. So 100 degrees and you can cause damage, good test really, maxed all 3 out and ecoflow once again pips the others

The Bluetti is the best value as it can be bought for £619. Jackery do have a newer model with Lipo04 battery. I'm waiting for Ctechi to release their GT1500 in the UK. Eco flow has the smallest battery and higher power charger hence faster charging. However fast charging degrades the battery faster.

Just bought the ecoflow max great bit of kit... A wee bit steep at 2 grand rite enuff.

Hi Great review, we collect our first MH up in 6 weeks, which would you choose, power bank or a solar panel, lithium battery and inverter, we went to NEC show last week 🤯

Anny good idea to fix the powerbrick to the bluetti

Great video. I’ve been thinking about buying one of these for a few months now but personally I think I’ll get the Delta 2 by eco flow, it’s just a no nonsense power station that’ll do everything nice and easy for the same money as the jackery.

@sxshethean3069

Жыл бұрын

Safer with a LiFePO4 battery.

Hi mate, love your videos has always quick question. I am converting my van but I don’t have any electrics in it at the moment. I just want something to charge my phones and laptops with the eco-river flow to portable be a good buy at €270 ?

Also temps rose at similar speeds. The gammon graph was 50 mins and the bacon was only 8

i am no expert but i really don't think these units are designed to operate cooking or heating appliances even a reasonable generator would struggle with them

Have you thought about a single portable induction hob an dry fry your bacon

Have you tried a tefal 1000w air fryer. We have one in the caravan. 1.7 L capacity. 👍🏻

Technology has moved on so fast in this sector. Jackery used to be the Market leader but failed to keep up. If you have Jackery powerbanks (I have 2) you just have to learn to live within their capabilities.

@jampam-jf8mt

Жыл бұрын

Jackery have new models out with the same.battery chemistry

great video mate would one of these run a diesel heater.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

The Bluetti EB70 will. The one in the video came out of my van and powers my diesel heater from the 12V socket. The LAST generation of River Pro cannot power a diesel heater - I don't have access to the new model to test if the River *2* Pro can.

OMG!!! I didn’t think you were going to get your bacon!!! BTW, raw smoked streaky bacon is a winner!!

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

🤢

Can I just mention that you said that you don't need loads of sockets on these power stations as your not gonna use loads at one time then when you got to the ecoflow you said you like it coz it has 3 sockets that's biest but it did test out on top

For some unknown reason this video is not showing on your channel, I only found it as a recommendation from you at the end of your show video

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

It's unlisted for now. People who click the link get a preview before it goes public in the week. 😎

None of them are rated to the 1600w needed for an air fryer so hardly surprising that they all failed to run it properly or at all. Seems like a lot of dosh to spend on bacon!

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

A less funny channel would be stress testing to failure using power tools or something. 😁

@strongandco

Жыл бұрын

@@Mevi Wait, stress testing an air fryer to failure with power tools would be hilarious 😃

@larryc1616

Жыл бұрын

Get the ecoflow delta 2

@nore8141

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 so true

Have you tried a microwave with the ecoflow. Apparently microwaves use less power to run.

Love the science Daz just don’t blow up the new hame before you have lived in it 😂

Did you use xboost on the ecoflow?

I found it !!! I found a Powerstation which can Cook your Bacon VTOMAN 1500w normaly it costs £1000 however amazon is Giving £300 discount it has 860wh which is more capacity than all powerstations in this video

Bacon mode engaged Captain

Great review and test, eco flow looks and sounds the best, but I'm not sure if you were actually doing a test for our sakes or just hungry and included the test as a valid reason to get a snack 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did you remember to switch x-boost on with the ECOFLOW… it should go up more power..

I have a meter. You are supposed to push the prob over half way into the meat you are cooking. If you look at your probe there is a mark half way down must be in meat past this mark. Not ideal to rest on bacon as you have just found out.

The results might be interesting if you tried testing with delta pro or pro With the x-boost turned off, so you get all the 240v then will you get crispy bacon 🎉 Great video please keep the great work up 👍

That bacon looked like it still had a heart beat.

@rob_cd

Күн бұрын

😂😂😂

Yh daz love your vids and your new van . But the power banks r well to much for wot thay r

It's the ecoflow for me.

So which one was the favorite???

I take it a coffee machine would be alright though?

Even the new Jackery 3000 PRO doesn't use Lifepo4 batteries which seems a bit crazy.

Nice presentation but I am not convinced that any of these are a viable option for off grid. If you have to charge using solar they all take a very long time to charge. May be better suited to camping and charging laptop and phones and run some led lights around the tent. But would be a very expensive purchase for this.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

The Bluetti in the demonstration is mine. I don't have leisure batteries anymore. From early Spring to late Autumn I run my entire van; lights, diesel heater, fridge, tech & MacBook from it. 320watts of panels on the roof. [I'm the editor on this channel, so the laptop is nearly always in use] Daz has loaned me a fast charging EcoFlow River Pro (Version 1) that I top up at motorway services, etc. That gets me through the winter months.

Lol that was a funny video Daz, None of those power banks are designed for that lol, they’re are purely designed for phone/tablet charging lol All you’ve done there is proved your ecoflow bias 😂 You wouldn’t eat that raw bacon, you would have had to do five cycles and it still wouldn’t have been cooked and the ecoflow would have been out of power, Only my opinion chap 👍 Personally I prefer the Bluetti on the larger format, More expandable, better RV amp output for running the entire Campervan 👍 But I do love your videos and have been watching from the start.

Can these batteries not be put in series? You might be able to hit 1.5kw then.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

Summing together 2 AC sources that are almost certainly out of phase with each other.. probably not without huge peaks and dips in voltage, depending how much out of alignment the phase of each of them is.

Thay r for you supper rich van lifers tho daz. But you must need a bigger power Bank to cook with if you got more or a bigger airfyer tho , is it daz

The question is why the eco flow was restricting its power output to 50% of what your air fryer required.

@jampam-jf8mt

Жыл бұрын

The Eco flow is the least powerful as it's only 800watts continuous. 1600w is just a peak for a split second.

@kirbincap8307

Жыл бұрын

So is the eb70s no?

@jampam-jf8mt

Жыл бұрын

@@kirbincap8307 eb70 is rated 1000 watts continuous

@jampam-jf8mt

Жыл бұрын

Eb70s is a different version I believe available in the US and maybe other countries. The UK version is 1000watts continuous

@kirbincap8307

Жыл бұрын

Damn I just bought the ecoflow River 2 pro with 220 solar panels to run my iceco 50 fridge 🤔.

Put it under the grill now Daz 😂

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

Mmmm, need that crunchy bacon.

You need a power station with at least a 1500watt inverter to power your air fryer.

The Meater overheated because it wasn't inserted into the meat. There's a big difference between the meat temperature and oven temperature and the meat is acting like a heat sink keeping the probe cooler(er) than the surrounding temperature. If you read the instructions they say: "DO NOT exceed the probe's internal sensor limit of 212°F / 100°C or the ambient sensor limit of 527°F / 275°C. Temperatures above these maximums may damage the probe." it looked like the probe internal temperature got too hot. The instructions also say: "DO NOT remove the probe while it is exposed to heat. The probe must be inserted in and removed from food away from all heat sources." (in other words do not just put it in the oven without it being inserted into the meat joint).

I love my ninja air fryer. That was really interesting. If the mobile home is hooked up to electricity, I assume the fryer would work as normal. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on using a generator when wild camping.

J'aime beaucoup

I got an air fryer, not sure if you know that! 😂😂😂Mine is a 1000W

For 300 more, get the ecoflow delta 2

Where is the #anker 757 ? It is the best by far on all of them, ( My opinion it is the number one now in the market). Fast charging, longer time of operation and high output. Not to forget the 5 years guarantee and Lipo battery.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

Daz doesn't get all of these units for free. You're right that the 757 looks a top piece of kit, however it's double the price of both the EcoFlow and Bluetti.

I'm subscribed because of Eamon and because who put me onto john and mandy and then yourself, and I would love to buy a 3000 watt 240 volt lithium generator, also I was wondering did you ever hear of anybody building a lithium E generator from videos, maby it's because they explode thanks from ireland 🇮🇪

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

I've met people who have built their own DIY Lithium leisure battery systems from individual LiFePO4 cells. It's cheaper, but still quite expensive and a lot of skill and knowledge is needed. Jehu Garcia has a good YT channel for DIY.

😎👍

Nice van much mòre room

And like some don't even Have mobile fast charging on top

The Jackery is only under 2 years if you actually run it down and charge it up 100 percent 500 times. This is the sort of misleading thing about the lifepo vs standard chemistry. Yes, it can recharge 3000 times. Unless you are using it massively that is completely irrelevant. If you only use 20 percent of your Jackery battery per day, you will end up with it taking 8-10 years to get to 80 percent charge level. Most people will never use their Jackery on this level therefore its kind of irrelevant that the Liftpo batteries last so long. Regardless, Lifepo is far more environmentally friendly and its safer so its a win there. Anyway, just wanted to add that.

Hi Daz. I bought an EcoFlow River last summer. Last week I wanted to purchase an extra battery to increase the capacity. I couldn't find a seller online who had stock. I contacted EcoFlow customer service and got a very disappointing reply: Dear guest, Thank you for waiting and forgive us for replying to you now. Due to the increase in customer traffic, we are a bit out of control. Again, we ask for your understanding. Regarding your query, our answer is sorry, we no longer manufacture extra batteries for this product. We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you and wish you a happy life. Charles EcoFlow Customer Service Team EcoFlow EU I think that's a bit of rubbish. Now I'm stuck with a River that I cannot expand. I think I'll flog it on eBay and look to Bluetti or Jackery for my kit from now on.

Update Bluetti is noisy buzzy , jackery silly brick to carry and slow charging ecoflow Amazing but i have a r600 & a r1500 & the r1500 is Absolutely Amazing

@sydgerald

25 күн бұрын

Thanks for the input, I'm looking for a power station and ecoflow seems great

Ecoflow looks so much better than the others

Why did you use the jackery 1000 instead of the jackery 1000 pro 🤔 there's a defo difference

@TheUrbanMotorhome

Жыл бұрын

(Mevi replying: KZread keeps removing my replies, so I've switched to the main account) Contrary to popular belief, Daz doesn't get sent all of these for free. 😎 The Jackery 1000 Pro is new to the UK market and there are only a few UK reviews. Of the 2 I found on KZread, only one was provided by Jackery themselves. The other was purchased by the reviewer. There is only ONE 3 month old UK review on Jackery's own website and the reviewer's photos show the Jackery 1000 (not pro) There are no UK reviews on Amazon The spec differences over the original Jackery 1000 are: full charge in 1.8hours (vs 7.5 hours) 2x 400W capable solar inputs (vs 1x 163W input) Built in AC charger (vs a separate power brick which plugs into the solar input) NMC chemistry, 1000 charge cycles to 80% capacity (vs 500) 2 USB-C ports (vs 1), but they still don't support the full PD spec. No 15v or 20v. There is a clear improvement in specs, however it's almost 2x the price of the Bluetti EB70 if you were to shop around.

I think it would have cooked much better if the bacon was just on the base plate, the tray stopped the air circulation.

After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. kzread.infoUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.

It ran an air fryer when the Bluettii and Zachary would not, but it limited the power going to the airfryer so it didn't work the way the manufacturer had intended. Seems bad for anything that is plugged into it, doesn't seem like any of them will do the job you wanted to do. If my phone does not get the appropriate amount of power it does not charge properly or could possibly fry it. Phones do not like to get fried they break. Was that a 100% charge that went down to 33% Within 16 minutes? I don't see that you could run an air conditioner off of these or a refrigerator could you? There's got to be something better. I've heard people say that they've only lasted them a year.😮

Good back up to get you out the poop only it seems.

basically if you only have a power bank in your van you are better of using a camping stove for food

I have 2x200 ah lithium and I cook on mine fine but I think them powerbanks and rubbish as a main power source

Basically just use Gas when can 👍🏻

Bbq, pan...

That bacon was walking and talking

Le pouce de je suis satisfait ecoflow 👌👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍🔋🔋🔋

That bacon definitely made an oink oink sound when you stuck that probe in it 😅

No it's not cooked daz

I hope Uncle Roger doesn’t watch your Channel😅

This is how you say Bluetti lol

If you want the wireless charger, why not go for the Bluetti. It's over £100 cheaper, larger capacity and has a larger more powerful 1000watt continuous inverter than the 800watts on the eco flow? The only reason is brand loyalty and recieving we eco flow products for free..

Even better when you get them for free!

@jongmans38

Жыл бұрын

@@dumpertruck1 If you enjoy people advertising for other company's, their is lots of shill's out there for you to watch, I do not, even though it was a fair video.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

The Bluetti in the video belongs to me. 😎

I’ve got the River pro. If it says you have 40 hours of power time with something plugged in you probably have half of that . Also the car charge gets really really hot. So hot it melted my Aux port on my van. I did connect it to my Diesel heater once but it just tripped out. Imo don’t waste £750 on this .

£15 gas stove from any store and a can of gas. Job done properly.

You are bacon

My whole solar system didn't cost as much as the cheap one. . . Including 3 130ah batteries. . And I've never ran out of power. . Its just a gadget you don't really need. . Pluss more weight 2 carry. . Be ok 4 tentin or weekend away

What do you do with ecoflo? Try and get us to buy them? They are pony .. useless apart from 12v usage

Unless genuine portability is needed for example tent camping or fishing you would get far better value for money adding to your fixed setup, leisure batteries and solar. It's tiresome seeing KZreadrs deceiving their viewers by giving gushing reviews for these overpriced, underpowered gimmicks in exchange for free stuff. Not to mention the inconvenience of having a great lump of a unit taking up floor space and having to bring everything to it to run/charge, when instead I have USB and inverter sockets around the motorhome in convenient places where they are needed. 460Ah Lithium and 665w solar on my MH and been off grid for the past 4 months in France, Spain, Morocco, Portugal and Ireland, extensive use of gaming laptop and portable twin tub washing machine as well as other gadgets.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

Cynical. I respect that this isn't a device that you are interested in, but perhaps don't assume that you represent the ideal. The Bluetti featured in the video was lent to Daz by me. I own and use it daily.

@WoollyWanderers

Жыл бұрын

@@Mevi Who knows what the ideal is. What bugs me is youtubers pimping these things and people who don't know any better paying though the nose for kit that they don't need.

@Mevi

Жыл бұрын

​@@WoollyWanderers People were paid to sell you the things that you DO buy. Do you really think that people are too daft to know if they have need for £750-£1000 of portable power bank? I have to point out that in the reviews Daz does (including this one), he recommends a permanent install much like the one that you enjoy. My tip for you to avoid the KZread algorithm keep suggesting videos that are *very obviously* for products you don't like, is to NOT watch and comment 100+ words on them. Click the 3 little dots and choose "not interested".