The fight scene with Echo and Daredevil was awesome. Needed more action like that.

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

no way you have to be trollin bro. i mean its not as bad as Iron Fist but its definitely way lower quality compared to DD.

I really like in ep 1 how they paid this sort of tribute to the Daredevil series by laying out a fight scene without any cuts (as far as I remember) & Daredevil pulling the shelf down on Echo like Bullseye has on him as a finisher .

I thought that the show was really good. It definitely wouldn’t have worked as a week to week, but the binge was really well done. I loved all the characters and the cast.

I can understand the hate “The Marvels” got for being the some old MCU Formula, but not “Echo”. “Echo” was a breath of fresh air the MCU desperately needed! The mature content actually serves a purpose with characters you can attach yourself to and the continuation of the original Netflix series is something I’m very happy is happening.

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

Keep praising mediocrity and youll just get more mediocrity. That breath of fresh air Netflix DD already did and this show tried to copy it but it just ended up being disrespectful to Kingpins and DDs actors.

@bigpapi3672

4 ай бұрын

@@takumifujiwara9181 stop taking everything so seriously thats your problem

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

@@bigpapi3672 stop telling other ppl how they should enjoy a tv show just because they have a different opinion thats your problem.

@hughmyron3845

4 ай бұрын

This is written by chatgpt

@pedroportillo1585

4 ай бұрын

@@takumifujiwara9181 I’ll admit the first episode had big pacing issues. It could really used an additional episode to flesh out the relationship between Maya and Kingpin as well as how DD and Hawkeye fit into the story in a bigger sense, rather than just being glorified cameos. But this is Maya’s story. Not Kingpin’s. Not DD’s. Not Hawkeye’s. From Episode 2 and beyond that’s what we get and, personally, I believe they did a good job and moving in the right direction for future MCU projects.

I didn't hate it, I didn't love it, but I did like it.

I normally agree with a lot of John’s thoughts, but I actually enjoyed Echo, way way more than Hawkeye, FATWS, or Invasion. I would continue to follow this storyline although they have to elevate Fisk’s danger status immediately!

@marcusclark1339

4 ай бұрын

none of those were good though the bar is so low for mcu

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

Jesus dude thats a really low bar.

It's hilarious how no one in her family cares that she came back home, and was just chill about crashing cars and giving her weapons

Disney should do this more. Release all episodes at once.

I truly enjoyed the show. I had lots of fun with it and I thought it had a lot of heart.

Outside of the ending, the show was interesting and good. Not great, but good for what it was. Certainly could have used a few more episodes to flesh things out, but definitely not as bad as John is making it out to be.

@yippykiyay89

4 ай бұрын

It was terrible

@chasegreer9573

4 ай бұрын

I agree. The show really needed about 6-8 episodes at 45-60 minutes. Last episode felt rushed. I liked all the characters, just wished we saw more. Hopefully we get more in the future.

Haters gonna hate, this was a groundbreaking show in different cinematographic aspects. It was an amazing introduction to the living world of a deaf antihero with indigenous roots. Choctaw representation done right for the first time, and secondly, immersing audience into deaf and asl packed dialogue and actionscenes? Never seen such a thing before.

@SIMPLYGOATTALKLIVE2023

4 ай бұрын

“DEaF AntIHeRo wItH RePrESeNtaTiON” stahp shit was trash. Not the character or the actors fault. Wasn’t written well and doesn’t explore any real meat of the so called indigenous roots

@camvick407

4 ай бұрын

It's not groundbreaking and the acting is horrendous

@4g64spyder

4 ай бұрын

Nothing was ground breaking...its OK if you like it, bit let's stop being delusional. This was old and tired and the views prove that.

@randycropsey6131

4 ай бұрын

​​@@camvick407nah I'm m sorry dude but the acting was great from every supporting character and when the script called for Maya to get emotional she nailed it. This show wasn't amazing but it was very good doesnt deserve half the hate it gets

@Ace-mw9pm

3 ай бұрын

@@randycropsey6131ok when you have 80 year old ladies beating up mercenaries. You know you’ve gone too far.

I enjoyed it quite a bit. Not disappointed at all. Watched all 5 episodes back-to-back. I felt like they didn't quite nail the landing, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I haven't finished it yet, but so far, it is better than most of what the MCU has presented lately, so it doesn't suck so much as you said.

I knew Jon wasn’t gonna like it. But really enjoyed this show

I liked this more than secret invasion. The native representation was beautiful, the whole family signing was great. Teared up in episode 4 with grandma n echo conversation. There was enough action for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Maybe cus i never watched the daredevil series....

How can you not say “Choctaw”

John has his right to his own opinion. Given he feels Shang Chi and Man Of Steel are in his top 5 superhero movies, it shows he has wacky taste that doesn’t align with mine. I thought the show was good and one of the better recent Marvel. He was clearly expecting a different type of show in his head and is criticising the makers for not making the show in his head.

@DannsProductions

4 ай бұрын

I don't know but I thought it was better than I expected, there are some flaws with the ending being a big problem for me but overall, it's pretty good. To say that Miss Marvel was better than this is a little questionable.

After reading the comments, I realized that it's easy to sell people on crap.

We went from, "Oh, fuck! Marvel is going to put my race/ethnicity on the big screen!?!?!" to "Oh...fuck.....Marvel is going to put my race/ethnicity on the big screen...." 🤣🤣

Respectfully disagree John had a great time watching the series. Some dope fight scenes and classic rez humor . Plus the flash backs showed some great cultural anecdotes. Not just the pow wow brother

I hated the Echo show. And I watched it eagerly without external judgement. On its own merits, it doesn't achieve much in terms of storytelling. The show felt like it was made to achieve other things (important things like the exploration of Native American culture, the lives of the differently abled-the deaf and the amputees, and some levels of fan service-Daredevil and Kingpin), except a good narrative. It doesn't earn its place in its own show or in the wider MCU. I've held out way more hope for Marvel than many, and I have to accept that they don't make stuff for the people who they courted while they grew into a juggernaut film/TV studio. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I think they should do that 5-10 minute “intro” for all shows/movies but to do it before the MCU opening title. To have a “Previously in the Marvel universe” to prep the non-psychos who watch all MCU, then the MCU’s standard opening title, then the movie

...people in real life have survived gunshots to the face

I feel like they ripped that ending from Avatar the last airbender. They should have scrapped her having mystic powers.

I respectfully disagree. This is not a masterpiece, but it was not a bad show. There were some things that I disliked but overall, I like the show.

The fact he like Ms marvels more is wild

@ericthegrizzly7350

4 ай бұрын

That's because John doesn't want to critique a little girls acting, he might hurt her feelings

@el_m4ver1ck50

4 ай бұрын

Ms Marvel was actually written and edited better

I liked this show a lot! I hope Marvel keeps it up and we will see Echo again.

It's very hard to please John 😅 It's not super good but it's good enough and I would give 3 star out of 5

Kind of confused, online review sites are liking this, as well folks in their comments. And everyone in these comments are liking the show. I wasn’t going to watch it, but after all the positive reviews I’m actually going to watch it

@neophyte_reviews

4 ай бұрын

Definitely give it a shot

It was a good show and certainly one of the better Marvel Shows. If some people were expecting over the top Tarantino and John Wick violence throughout, that is their problem not the show.

Choctaw is not hard to pronounce John 😭😭

@Zombub

4 ай бұрын

Yeah that's what I was thinking too😂

the show was garbage. it made fisk into a joke, it made him look like he was vulnerable on the subject of his dad when in reality in the daredevil series (that the echo showrunners claimed they produced the show to be faithful to daredevil series) fisk found comfort in the white cracked wall going as far to buy his most prized possession being the rabbit in a snow storm painting. one of fisk’s most important traits was that he believed his father’s death to be necessary so he obtained this twisted pov on reality where he killed everyone who wronged him. fisk literally ran away crying at the end which he would never do no matter what powers effected him. also at the end it teased fisk running for nyc mayor when in reality he would never think about because all of new york knows what fisk did with the fbi because of rays dying proclamation that was spread at fisk and vanessas wedding.

8:10 nope. go back and watch the daredevil show. he doesn't always go on stoic fits of rage. at times he was a whiny baby. they got him pretty much spot on here. he just didn't get a whole lot of runtime. which makes sense considering how much runtime the whole show was.

Was looking forward to what people say but my man, you like the madam web trailer

It’s crazy how stupid John is sometimes, like he won’t even try to say “Choctaw” bc he believes he can’t say something that simple? That’s insane.

The first few episodes were great, but then it got to the end of episode 4 and it never felt they set up a finale, especially considering the finale was 30 mins long. I’m ok with having a short episode count and short episodes if it fits the story, but they tried to pack in so much of Mayas ancestry and her relationship with Kingpin, that everything felt either unresolved or rushed to its conclusion by the end.

"It's just another grandma, it's just another pawn shop owner..." That is the culture which has been missing in Hollywood representation of indigenous culture and often is misrepresented. Not criticizing your critic of the show more of the lens you are watching it from. Expecting a "Wakanda-Talokan" experience of culture for every culture is not necessarily being authentic to said culture and often problematic due to exoticizing a culture just to keep a "westernized" audience entertained. The first pawn shop scene in question was there to point that out and establish more realistic levels of representation moving forward in the show.

Not the best show ever but I found it to be an enjoyable watch. 5 episodes was a sweet spot, glad it wasn’t any longer.

Headshots don't always mean instant death. There are people living normal lives in the real world with bullets permanently lodged in their brains. There are more still who've survived with some level of disability. Besides that...comic book characters routinely survive much worse than a gsw.

@tsheporabekane4172

4 ай бұрын

King Pin has survived 2 deaths now in the MCU, how many more deaths with he survive, that is the issue with him "dying" every Disney+ show ...

“Wait wait my hands are glowing! I’m gonna fuck shit up!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I understand John's points, but I enjoyed it. I was looking for a better explanation of how Kingpin was still alive and still had an his eye.

The QueenPin 😂😂

This isn’t one of the best Marvel projects but it is a step in the right direction. It’s a 7/10 for me

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

You want more C tier characters getting tv shows no one asked for?

They hyped it as a dark gritty daredevil spinoff and it was actually a slow show with very little action. Her powers were weird. They decided to make kingpin look weak. And this show did nothing to advance the marvel story other than the post credit scene.

@thetrib1

4 ай бұрын

huh...it's like people don't remember that daredevil had 3 seasons. it's like people really think that every episode had a hallway scene lol. this was a 5 episode deal. it had the tone of daredevil. and the few fight scenes were in the tone of daredevil as well. it just wasn't that long of a show. maybe they'll add a season...who knows. but yes this was in the tone and feel of daredevil the netflix show 100%. well...really like all the marvel netflix shows. "And this show did nothing to advance the marvel story" uh...none of the disney plus shows have really. if you think this one didn't I mean.

I admittedly must watch the show, which I will today, but after hearing some Native creators talk about the show made me want to see it because of their comments of authenticity. Now watching John's reaction makes understand why we only get European stories.

@thetrib1

4 ай бұрын

haha

Come on, this show does not ‘suck’. It’s all subjective but I really enjoyed it. There seems to be a pattern starting a while ago now of unnecessarily harsh reviews of Marvel and Star Wars shows that on the whole do not deserve it. I’ve noticed that these reviews started when John started to take against Disneyland, though I’m sure the two things aren’t connected.

In Marvel's defense, didn't ECHO also shoot Kingpin in the face in the comics and he miraculously wasn't really harmed much?

@deejaylegoz9323

4 ай бұрын

Yes, both eyes in the comics, and Kingpin’s got thick muscle or something which is the explanation of how he survived.

@greygorygaming

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but you can't explain bad writing with bad writing.

@johnanon2011

4 ай бұрын

@@greygorygamingBad writing or comic book writing? Lol

@greygorygaming

4 ай бұрын

@@johnanon2011 Those aren't mutually exclusive.

@thetrib1

4 ай бұрын

damn maybe it isn't common knowledge. vital parts of the body like brain, heart, lungs, and some arteries are not insta deaths...but are extremely likely to be cause of death. if kingpin wasn't shot in the brain...and just in the eye(which happens more than people think) then he would be fine as long as he doesn't loose to much blood. but yes....a shot in the eye is like a shot in the bicep. there will be injury to the area usually but it rarely means death.

I turned this video on and immediately regretted changing my Echo Dot call word from “Alexa” to “Echo”

@Cam-ek4xg

4 ай бұрын

lol

This would’ve worked way better as a Marvel special presentation. Extend episode one by 10-15 minutes and they would’ve had a nice jumping off project for an obscure character.

4/10. Worried for Daredevil. The weird filter on everything screamed early 2000s comic film.

Have to disagree, I really liked this show

It’s not very good, but also it’s better than Hawkeye and Secret Invasion, so at least it passes that admittedly low bar.

I believe in the comics Echo shoots Fisk in the face, and he survives. I think he's blinded for a while and later regains his sight. Not sure if the comics explained how Fisk survived because he was only human when he was shot. Anyway, I enjoyed the show. It wasn't great and the ending as with most of these Disney + shows was underwhelming, but overall, I enjoyed the characters, the culture, and Fisk-Maya relationship.

I had a good time with it. I thought the whole "Shazam, everyone has powers" was pretty cheesy, but I enjoyed just about everything else.

@s.rob.5482

4 ай бұрын

After reading the comments, I realized that it's easy to sell people on crap.

John needs to start pronouncing Choctaw the right way more often 😂

Its like somone is trying to tell a good story with some of these series but then either theres a big chunk of the story is left out and needed filling or somone is intruding on the orignal story, putting stuff in that doesnt need to be there

Retelling of pervious shows was great to see and done well in episode 1 but did still feel sbit choppy like they had trouble trying to edit it to make it flow right

Loki both season 1 and 2 were better than ms marvel so your wrong about that john and also echo isn't that bad. Its not great but it has its good moments. Still looking forward to DD born again

I enjoyed the series. I do admit the last episode got goofy with how they decided to go about the final fight. My least favorite episode.

Curious to see how the “shoot yourself in the face, kids” line ages

I'm damning with faint praise here but IMO Echo didn't suck. Which is kinda like the best thing I can say about Marvel shows outside of Loki and Wandavision so far.

@gladtech4740

4 ай бұрын

Your standards are so slow that watching paint dry doesn't suck to you

@thetrib1

4 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed echo. this is so much better than what SI was(to be fair to secret invasion...there were great moments).

I feel like they marketed this wrong, I liked the show. Went with no expectations and enjoyed it.

@rebelelite4973

4 ай бұрын

agreed

@Dru2037

4 ай бұрын

I liked it also

Mispronunciation is less disrespectful than abstaining from mentioning the tribe.

@Veriquo345

4 ай бұрын

fall off your horse.

Wait echo was released

Echo was good, not great, solid 6/10. Just above average.

@MeisterGlanz86

4 ай бұрын

+1

i didnt love it but i also didnt hate it i agree with some of yalls points but it really wasnt as terrible as u make it out to be. but once john doesnt like something he rips it to shreds and is so negative lol

I thought it was ok. The game scene took me out of it a little but I really enjoyed how they played with bringing us into echos world then back to hearing that was kinda revolutionary and cool.

Umm, echo wasn’t the first Disney plus show to release episodes at the same time. That was also Star Wars visions and American born Chinese.

@fangblaze713

4 ай бұрын

Nobody’s counting that, it’s not a serious show of course that one is all getting dropped at once

It was rushed.. story was good at times.. other times it was poorly paced and disjointed. The fights were badass though. Except for the finale which was kinda lame. However, i like the character. It was different. I think ALL of the blame is the editing and some of the writing. But overall, i see the potential and I'd watch season 2 without hesitation.

See this is why I don’t put ANY stock in trailers. I don’t like going in with any kind of expectation. I didn’t need this show to be as good as or better than anything I’d seen in Marvel. I just needed it to be good. And I thought it was quite good. I saw one trailer and that was it. I got what I was looking for in this series though, trailer or no trailer. I got an interesting character, some cool action, and an intriguing look at a mythical Native American culture. That’s all I needed. I don’t know why people hinge expectations off the trailer but say they’re leaving expectations at the door just to complain after they’ve seen it that it wasn’t like the trailer. It makes no sense to me.

@thetrib1

4 ай бұрын

nice

Not as action heavy and gritty as I wanted it (which I feared), but I sure didn't hate it either. I think it needed more action beats, and grittiness. But I thought the dramatic moments was really well done tho.

This show was a snooze fest. I took a nice nap half through it. Good job Marvel for helping with my insomnia again!

Finally finished it! I for one enjoyed it and looked forward to the next episode. I hoped for more Daredevil and I see John and Robs points, but for me I enjoyed the native stuff, the feeling of being in a family on the fringe and being on the fringe yourself. Plus I really enjoyed Graham Greene and Biscuits which is a sentence I wasn’t expecting to write last week. LOVED Biscuits’ contribution to the finale!

John wanting more of a show on things like their culture as if that can meaningfully be done in ~4 hours. If they want to do anything deep they can’t do this movies that are just broken up into something they can call a tv show

Why so many shots of the woodpecker? Is the woodpecker Maya’s mom or something?

@alexjack5158

4 ай бұрын

Apparently, whenever a woodpecker appears, its a warning sign of danger. That's all i got from it.

Wow! Campea, the way you blow things out of proportion with your descriptions is not helping me run away from this show, so I think I'll just watch it anyway, and draw my own conclusions, like usual.

@LivinglikeJay-iq3io

4 ай бұрын

I didn't know his intention was to drive u away from the show. Ur not that important bro

@najpalace3458

4 ай бұрын

If you watch something just because of what someone else says about the movie or show I suggest you re work the way you view movies

@synical13

4 ай бұрын

Did you seriously just accuse him of blowing things out of proportion while simultaneously admitting that you haven't seen the show yet? My, what big balls you have.

I thought it was ok. I did want an explanation to how Kingpin survived point blank gunshot to the face. Hell, he should at least have a hole in his face. It’s the same disappointment I felt when Billy from Punisher survived his face being destroyed with just a few scrapes. The thing that let me down was a more menacing Fisk. When he shows up for the first time, I feel like there should have been some serious chaos going on in moment that would strike the fear of God into Maya. Like idk, him fighting her out of straight blood thirsty anger, throwing her around and screaming with rage. Never really happened. Also, the final fight let me down. If they would have done something similar to the fight in the first episode, I would have accepted the crazy “shared power unto people” approach. It was ok.

I just finish the show, and I have to say I disagree with John I really enjoyed this show more then I thought I would. I also found it intriguing what they did with kingpin I did find him whinny or weak. For me the kingpin has always been a character who has extreme emotions when it comes to people he cares about and maya was one of those people she was a daughter to him. I would recommend this show. Also the performance across the board and the different character I found so enjoyable and real.

When I heard there were 5 episodes I was worried they would rush Maya's vision quest (from the comics) and they would not give enough attention to her culture. There was no vision quest at all and her culture was reduced to a powwow at night plus the repeated flashbacks of her maternal ancestors. A powwow can last a week and there is a lot going on surrounding one. A missed opportunity. I wanted to see Biscuits wreck some baddies with a bow (a skill he begrudgingly learned as a youth that cut into his gaming sessions)

I , actually , really liked. I also think the introduction could go better, but this series I think goes to the win column . But that is the fun of this , one’s person chocolate is another’s person cauliflower 😐

John was s full of himself.😂

It was a cute show. Which is ironic being that it’s the first TV-MA

I agree with y'all. I think John overstated how bad it is on a few things, but not by much. The story starts out pretty boringly, robs the weight from things that should have a lot of importance, and resolves in anticlimax. It never delivers on the promises of the trailer, and ultimately is mediocre at best. Episode 3 is the only one I finished thinking, "that was good." 4 was fine, and 1, 2, and 5 would all get subpar ratings from me.

I don't get how people are saying they enjoyed the show. Like, did you process what was on the screen? They never establish why Fisk was so attached to Maya, and vice versa, despite her father being in the picture. She clearly cares a lot about her father (enough to attempt to murder Fisk)...yet is clearly closer, and takes after Fisk...why? Did she spend more time with Fisk, than her father? Why didn't she just shoot him again, when he constantly made himself vulnerable to her? Why did Fisk have her father killed? The show was trying to show that she was similar to Fisk; kindred spirits. Why does all that rage, and hate, that's been building in her for decades just go away? How did those memories from her ancestors at all relate to her arc, at the moments they occured? They don't even define what her powers are, and if her mom had them....how did she die in that car crash? Super strength and healing...but she dies in a car crash, while Maya can jump off a speeding train, and bounce of the roof of a speeding truck with no injuries... before she activates her powers??? It's like they couldn't decide what story they wanted to tell, so they half-assed everything! Even during the DD fight, they had DD be less vicious with her compared to the men she came in with... despite him knowing she was killing people, too. Hell, since she became so good and this show is canon to the Netflix DD series...where the fuck was Maya? Why did Fisk have to manipulate Bullseye into becoming a DD killing machine...but not her? Too many characters, that were just irrelevant to the main plot and took away from what should've been the main characters in Maya, Fisk and either the uncle (if they stick with just the crime story) or the grandma (if they wanted to still keep the magic angle). Also, it's stupid af that Fisk would know this girl for 20 years and never learn sign language and/or never got an expert to teach her how to read lips so that she could function on her own. It's super convenient that everyone she hasn't seen for 20 years are still super adept at sign language and also happen to be the only people she has to talk to. Just a messy show, full of missed opportunities. The sad thing is that she'll probably never be seen again, because they had no faith in the show to begin with.

@pauldavis7362

4 ай бұрын

People enjoy things because they don't overthink it and try to make logic out of everything 🙄

@blackmanwithcomputer

4 ай бұрын

@@pauldavis7362 Sorry, but that's tough for me when the crux of the series (the bond between Maya and Fisk) is underdeveloped and just doesn't make sense in general. Also, Disney is the one that decided to make the Netflix show canon...which just makes things more confusing.

@takumifujiwara9181

4 ай бұрын

@@pauldavis7362 damn dude you have no standards huh.

I finally saw Echo and I gotta say I really enjoyed it. I think the mixed opinions I'd heard lowered my expectations. I think its a nice character study on Maya Lopez and I love the Native American cultural elements in the show also.

@sebastiaanvos9964

4 ай бұрын

I'm with you on this show, I watched this review afterwards because I've learned first to form my own opinion about a show or movie before I let it taint my viewing pleasure, maybe a small peace of advice for you.👊

@ssseditz6613

4 ай бұрын

What did you like about the show ?? I found main character unlikeable 😮

@LazyEyeNZ

4 ай бұрын

That's fair Maya can come across as unlikeable. But I enjoyed the supporting cast who all did a great job of interacting with her using sign language. The story is small which I like from a superhero show. ​@@ssseditz6613

@OUtkast19782007

4 ай бұрын

this is why i tell people watch things and form your own opions. i watched this show and i enjoyed quite a bit. love the native american stuff and the action was great. people just love to hate on disney and marvel whenever they do anything with representation.

did hawkeye do a bad job of introducing echo into the MCU or was echo not on the same tier popularity wise as spider man nor black panther when they were introduced??? cause I think her introduction was good actually.

This is a daredevil "At home" kind of thing.

It was definitely better than Thor Love and Thunder that John loved until people said they hated it.😅

Y'all gotta stop hyping things up because of promised violence. For 1, the MCU has yet to ever deliver on that, and 2, the fact that basically all of the promo relied on that was an obvious red flag. Violence for violence's sake does not make for a good story, and the misleading over promise of it was Marvel setting itself up to disappoint y'all

Echo was a show that never needed to be made. Once again, Quantity over Quality.

I understand why some people don't like Echo, but I really liked it. It isn't the best Marvel show, but I found myself drawn to these characters. I felt like there was more to be said, but it was a nice glimpse into this character's life. That was just me...

@zaymm10

4 ай бұрын

​@DueceSpice bingo. So tired of these people thinking they are special just because they liked a crappy show that no one else liked smh

@Jonathan-pp3du

4 ай бұрын

It's cool that they got a real Deaf and Dumb actor to play Echo.

@takakuuz2794

4 ай бұрын

​@@DueceSpicestop lying 😅😅😅😅😅😅

@hoemalone

4 ай бұрын

@@takakuuz2794what are they lying about? Marvel properties have not been doing good. Even if some people liked The Marvels or Echo, if the vast majority didn’t or didn’t watch, that’s an issue for a studio.

@hoemalone

4 ай бұрын

@@takakuuz2794what lie?

Another MCU show that is proof that not every character in this universe should have their own series.

I liked most everything about this show except for the last episode. Way to completely whiff on the landing. They did so much right, though.

Respectfully, I have to disagree with John... I was lucky enough to see the first 3 eps of ECHO last night at the premiere. It's not better than ms marvel, but it's a pretty damn good show overall and is my 4th favorite d+ mcu show Alaqua Cox as Maya, I thought was a badass and becoming one of my top mcu ladies characters. I love her facial expressions and whenever she uses ASL to communicate. Also young Maya is like the little girl in Godzilla Minus One good. The supporting characters were also great. Biscuits and the grandpa were absolutely hilarious, and I liked the actress who plays Maya's cousin Bonnie (she also voices kahhori in What If). There's definitely some brutal and other kind of moments that makes sense why the rating is TV MA. All great. Loved the visuals, score and music choices, and all the Choctow stuff was interesting/cool to see

@Kevdog1920

4 ай бұрын

Mine too

8:53 LOLLLL

I decided to take a break from Marvel shows since the letdown that was Secret Invasion. So I haven't seen Loki season 2 or Echo, and I don't regret it.

I quiet like the show except for the ending they didnt now how to wrapped out the story. Btw, you can survive shot it the face, watch the story of soccer player Salvador Cabañas

Slow?? I thought they rushed it, could of built deeper on what was happening.

They didn’t need to touch on him getting shot in the face it’s a comic it’s not that serious and ofc he was sensitive bcs he actually cared about her and he didn’t have his wife anymore! On that note when comes to other people he was ruthless

Not marvel’s best but very decent. Felt better about Kingpin in Echo than in Hawkeye. Echo > Hawkeye in general.

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4 ай бұрын

Kingpin seemed to be crying half the time. It really sucked