"Once I will have been treated - who I am then?" - Its really scary to notice that such a disorder becomes part of your identity!!! And everything part of you, you DONT WANT TO LET GO. Which means "it feels RIGHT to feel bad!" You really start subconciously believing that "this is what you deserve - THATS YOU!" Damn! And btw I also really like her accent! Thats why I continuied watching it..until this sentence came :) Thanks for sharing

@jessevelyn6579

7 жыл бұрын

This also really got to me for the same reasons. It's hard to think about it as part of my identity because eating disorders are also about hiding, about secrets... I like to think that my sickness is my own special thing that nobody will ever be able to really fathom. But nobody is fooled. :(

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bia, I try to do my best. And ALL great TEDX Vilnius 2016 team have helped me to present my talk with the confidence. Ilona

@elliegh4201

6 жыл бұрын

this is so related to me that having serial binge eating and dieting

@MotoWithJaden

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I feel that. I’m recovering from anorexia and I used to be so scared to recover because I feel like my eating disorder was the most interesting thing about me and without it, I didn’t even know who I was

@audreyhuggins8822

8 ай бұрын

@@MotoWithJaden I hope you are doing well.

She did such an amazing job of explaining the psychology and the biology even though we don't even completely understand how they exactly tie into one another. She seems very kind, competent, very intelligent, very understanding, and she seems to be someone that needs to be at the forefront of speaking out about this sort of mental illness. I love that in spite of her accent, she was so beautifully well spoken. Everything's she said made such perfect sense to me.

@ilonakajokiene1436

5 жыл бұрын

Dear CM BoxC ! It is a great honor to get such an amazing feedback on my TEDx Talk. Thank you so much. Ilona

I'm inpatient for Anorexia - binging/purging subtype. What a wonderful lady, she admits her own mistakes early in her career and explains what she has learned from them. Also, recovery is the hardest thing you'll ever do, but please seek help. This is your sign. Your time has come. What if you worked on loving yourself as much as you did on starving/hurting yourself? Step by step, you'll get there. What a beautiful soul you are. YOU CAN DO THIS.

Was on board with this until she said "Anorexia is the most severe of the eating disorders." I have anorexia nervosa b/p subtype. If my BMI were higher, I'd be diagnosed as bulimic. My bulimic behaviors have nearly killed me, causing me chronic colitis, bleeding of the stomach lining and esophagus, severe edema, low potassium, and a heart attack. These are the effects of binging and purging. All ED's are dangerous. Not just anorexia nervosa

@NatP1100

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@bronaldtrump

Жыл бұрын

@@seren3797 this is absolutely statistically true.

@emilyh.2618

Жыл бұрын

She it not say that other eating this orders are not severe.

@shoshishoshi127

Жыл бұрын

I see you have very bad comprehension. Anorexia being the most severe eating disorder does not take away the severity of the other eating disorders. Statistically speaking, Anorexic patients have the highest risk of dying early on with their illness. That does not mean that you cannot die with bulimia. 🤦

I think she forgot to describe that EDs, especially restrictive ones, are often competitive. The thoughts of a mind who has a ed often can be: [TW] I should eat less than her. She’s much thinner than I am. Am I fatter than her? I’m fatter than her. Etc.,.

@lilycorry3088

5 жыл бұрын

rsji.2u ji this is the first time I have seen anyone talk about this aspect of an eating disorder and although I am recovered I can still tend to do these things.

@teachmechannel6828

5 жыл бұрын

True

@user-mg3jz9em9f

2 жыл бұрын

Comparison is not the root cause of the eating disorder. The person has a (sometimes unconscious) problem (it might be fear or rejection and abandonment, feeling worthless...) and the mind has found striving to be thinner or as thin as others to offer some temporary relief, it gives short-time feelings of worthiness. "If I weigh ___, I will be loved/accepted/enough/happy". However, since comparing herself to others isn't the actual problem but a bandaid, even if the person does lose weight and get as thin as she thought she needed to, or as fit, the temporary relief will be soon over and she will need to demand herself more. She'll set herself new standards that will never satisfy her.

@Titi-qf5ft

2 жыл бұрын

Omg, it's true

@Rebecca236

Жыл бұрын

It's taboo that's why.

Wonder how many people have broken down in tears to this talk ♥️

What a great presentation. A lot of things made finally sense. Congratulations you explained very complex concepts in a really simple way. Also recognizing BED as a disorder it's finally a relief. It's a shame it's not so recognized as bulimia or anorexia.

@siliamercado5146

7 жыл бұрын

xispto84

The parts when she said that this disorder became a your identity and you don’t know who you are without it, I lost it, that it exactly my fear... what if I am my eating disorder?

@laurenb916

6 жыл бұрын

you are not. I promise.

@laurenb916

6 жыл бұрын

it's only a behavior, not who you really are. you are love.

@mundanemonday46

5 жыл бұрын

Remember, you are NOT what your eating disorder defines you.

@ieatgremlins

5 жыл бұрын

It feels that way but you are not.

@serenasun8279

2 жыл бұрын

I was scared when she said that.

I disagree that Anorexia is the most severe ED. I have suffered from both AN and Bulimia and without a single shadow of a shadow of a doubt, bulimia was much more life destroying, dangerous and harder to recover from. I recovered from anorexia within a few years, but bulimia had me in its grip for 10.

@yusufserhan2821

2 жыл бұрын

Its statistics tho

@hannahbonaparte5500

2 жыл бұрын

@@yusufserhan2821 The statistics aren't everything though. A severely anorexic person in a hospital is much easier to identify, people rarely die from complications of being underweight unless there is another underlying medical condition. But in the case of bulimic/BED patients that go undiagnosed, and are normal or overweight it is more likely that their ED would be missed as a contributing factor, especially if you're obese and die from a heart attack, diabetic complications, stroke etc.

@yusufserhan2821

2 жыл бұрын

@@hannahbonaparte5500 but ur right people with bulimia dont get diagnosed untill they loose a lot of weight by purging and now that theyre underweight theyre the type of anorexia now and then they go to the doctor or their relatives or partners make them go. Bulimia goes unnoticed untill it becomes aneroxia

@kennedy6906

Жыл бұрын

i had the opposite (anorexia for 10) and id still say bulimia is harder. i think in part its because it takes less choices than anorexia. anorexia is a thousand choices a day while you are one choice away from bulimic relapse. like you can be impulsive really. in my opinion bulimia also has a lot more short term consequences that debilitate you much faster. the anorexia death and failed recovery rates are a result of the time it takes

@Petitetorride18

11 ай бұрын

I totally agree

To be honest, I'm quite surprised that Ms Jelen, a therapist didn't know about the fact that eating disorders are not about eating when she started her career. One would think that this is one of the first things taught at university to a therapist who wished to treat eating disorders. I started my bulimia treatment in 1984 in Hungary, and the first thing my psychologist told us was this very thing.

All eating disorders are extremely complex and hard to treat/understand. Even though it seems to most people that ED are just based on weightloss, theres a much bigger picture behind that. Its anxiety, its a response to trauma, its a control, its something that makes you feel safe. Even though it is ultimately killing you. Somehow it makes you feel better. Its horrible & dangerous & not simply about weightloss. It goes far, far deeper than that for anyone with an ED knows this. Thats why its so hard to treat because it’s different for every individual.

13:12-14:43 I'm speechless.. it's exactly on point!

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Hey, thank you very much for your kind compliments. Greetings , Ilona

@apalumbo8585

5 жыл бұрын

Ilona Kajokiene why don’t you put videos on the internet? I’m in highschool and I need to talk about eating disorders in a university, maybe you could help me. Thank you ilona

Can you please make a video specifically about binge eating disorder?? Thanks.its so often overshadowed by bulimia and anorexia but I believe it deserves similar attention!!:):)

@swearveit

5 жыл бұрын

Type in kati morton on you tube. She is a therapist that specializes in eds. She is very insightful and calming like this lady

Unbelievable talk. Super informative and insightful. Thank you for your insight i learned so much

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Hey, Lilly Beth, I am very glad , that you have found smth insightful for yourself. Take care, Ilona.

13:35 yess she's right .. My friend keeps telling me to JUST eat healthy qnd stop thinking about losing weight and food yk bcz she see how much i suffer bcz of my ed.. And i shocked her when i told her i dont want to recover.. This ed keeps me alive if i didn't have it, I'd lose myself. I dont wanna recover at all.

@art.65367

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. My mother is so angry at me for not wanting to recover...

@manjuprabhu3393

2 жыл бұрын

Your friends are right and if you want a disease to keep you alive, is it really worth living?

Ilona Kajokiene, ačiū jums labai už šią nuostabią paskaitą! Džiaugiuosi radusi šį video. Jūs suteikiate labai daug informacijos ir pateikiate ją labai įdomiai ir suprantamai. Puikiai perteikiate, kaip jaučiasi žmogus turintis šiuos valgymo sutrikimus. Ačiū dar kartą ir tikiuosi galėsiu kada nors pamatyti jūsų paskaitą gyvai!

Because no one takes us seriously.

@Amigaudio

4 жыл бұрын

I need your help to understand this behavior. Can you contact me please?

I do love how she explains everything, but it's important to note that eating disorders can vary widely and mix together. Also, anorexia being characterized by a low weight does not mean that all people with anorexia actually have a low weight. That's the ideal, of course, but having a higher weight to begin with often causes people with anorexia to be looked over in treatment, when it's pretty much just as serious an illness for them.

Beautiful talk ❤ I’m coming up to 10 years of suffering with various forms in an attempt to free myself. It’s just a cycle of control and numbing in reality. But when you mention self-acceptance, I know it’s true. Sometimes I think I’m more self-accepting than I really am but I still control myself and swallow my emotions. I struggle with rage and often feel so confused at my reactions. People close to me are often confused too, why I am so hurt all of a sudden. But I can see I’m the one hurting myself and it’s a deep shame. I’m not a teenager anymore and it doesn’t just go away. My best tip for now is: get the help you need and open up to people around you if you can. Thanks for the message to continue the fight, Ilona. I want to move on with my life and be happy 🎉 and to feel worthy of it

@zemynosklinika531

Жыл бұрын

My best wishes, for your fight, @ErinMo. It is an uneasy job, but worthy.

Packed with knowledge, I'll be replaying this one.

Eating disorder Is More than don't eat or eat too much. An eating disorder stays there even if you start eating "normal" again,A year ago I started with this disorder and despite the fact that I am eating more because the nutritionist tells me to do so, my relationship with food was never the same again. People tell me that they see me with more curves as a compliment, but I hate it, I hate the fact of having the body like before because being extremely thin gave me an identity and somehow made me feel good, that's why sometimes I miss having that lifestyle, also because I received attention from my parents, now that I am "better" I am insignificant again

This is the only video I could find that accurately explains B.E.D.. I can't seem to find any other good videos of people that have B.E.D. stemming from childhood starvation and trauma (both linked to child abuse acting as punishment/discipline), nor have I been able to find any real success stories. I feel alone in this even though I know there are others out there. I feel often powerless over the autopilot subconscious mind and how it just takes me over and while I know and see and feel what I am doing to myself, I can't seem to stop. Thank you for this presentation. I feel like us B.E.D. sufferers are only at the beginning of our recovery ropes, and your raising of awareness of it provides us with some hope. Thank you.

@vianitoledo7439

6 жыл бұрын

watch BINGErview with Ryan Sheldon

@juliacutler4920

5 жыл бұрын

Sending good vibes your way. I am in recovery for Bulimia and I first decided I would begin dealing with my purging so I began stopping myself from the purging part but I still battled with binging and boy was that a hard time. It’s a different kind of battle. Each disorder is alike yet they have their differences too. You can make it to recovery and I sure hope you do. Good luck my friend.

Wow, the truth hit me like a ton of bricks.

Thank you. I made a presentation about this and i got the highest grade so THANK YOU SO MUCHH ✨✨❤️

Wow this was amazing she's said everything spot on

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Dear Madyn, Thank you :)

Thanks for the presentation of ED and it is clearly stated. Knowing it is long recovery and it is difficult to treat. I like your analogy of sweater ... and it is very sad of ED,

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Julianna!

great video, using it in my psychology class as a reference on eating disorders. great speaker!

@ilonakajokiene1436

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help with your classes! Young people need a lot of education in the mental health area. Wish you all the best!

This is true for every other addictions, notice for example some people say I am a smoker, other will say I smoke cigarettes. One is about identity the other with bevaviour

very informative, very interesting!

Amazing talk. Amazing speaker

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Emm Bronte, for your review. I wish you a very good luck :)

Thank you this was actually helpful

I really loved her accent and im wondering where is she from

@ugnesimuliunaite7667

8 жыл бұрын

She's from Lithuania

@zer0and1onechannel78

8 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@ilonakajokiene1436

8 жыл бұрын

+Zer0And1One Channel I am very happy to hear that you enjoy the way I presented the talk. I really appreciate.

@gigigerst3225

3 жыл бұрын

@@ilonakajokiene1436 this was so accurate and powerful. Your words are so important, thank you for putting your ideas out in the world

Wow. I have had EDNOS for 10 years, and I have never seen or heard anyone put it this clearly. I might have to send this link to my therapist. Although I probably Will not, because of the reason you mentioned. I don't want to change, I don't know what else of me there is.

@Zeyox96

5 жыл бұрын

I see eating disorders as being similar to a virus. They infect you, and they infect more and more of you to the point where who you are gets buried under the virus. And eventually you forget what there even was outside of the virus. But that virus is not you. And what you are without that virus is a person. A person with things they like, who can have hobbies and who can enjoy doing the things they do in their free time. A person who can go do fun stuff with friends and/or family wether or not they are related to food, and just have fun instead of worrying about it. A person who is not controlled by what they think of their body. A person who can accomplish things so much more meaningful than what the virus accomplishes: destroying you. The exact details as to who you are without that virus controlling every aspect of your being, I can't tell you. But there is something fantastic and amazing to be found there and it is all there for you to discover and explore. Maybe you don't think so, but every person has the potential to love being them and to enjoy their life and accomplish great things, wether it be on a big or small scale. You do too and it is worth it to get better. If you think it will be helpful to send this to your therapist, I really think you should do so. Because then he/she can help you fight off this virus better, so you can discover who and what you are without it sooner. And when you do, you can enjoy being you instead of suffering being controlled by the virus.

This is so important

ive had bulimia for almost 3 years. it started out as EDNOS, and i lost 70lbs, then it somehow spiraled to binging and purging. I was on many different anti depressants and i somehow gained 50lbs back. i feel hopeless, i tried therapy, many different pills to help but it doesnt seem to work. im 18, and i cant even afford to get professional help. my life feels hopeless.

@kseniAlivalife

6 жыл бұрын

Watch Jen Brett's videos, and Elisa( her channel is FollowtheIntuition) - they really helped me choose to go through recovery and stick with it. They showed how life can be without an eating disorder.

@TT-fn1xb

6 жыл бұрын

Elisa Oras' book/channel (follow the intuition) or the Bulimia Help Method by Ali Kerr is great. Therapy was a waste of time for me. Try these books instead. best of luck.

@ariadna7189

5 жыл бұрын

Watch What Mia Did Next, Kayla Rose Kotecki and Tabitha Farrar

@whipsmartchris

4 жыл бұрын

I feel for you. My daughter’s 22 with AN. We once had terrific insurance and financial stability (or so we thought). After a sudden profound illness made me permanently disabled (wheelchair/chronic/acute pain) I lost my ability to work and my care ate up nearly all our savings. My kids went on Medicaid which allowed Claire to go thru extended rehab at a fine hospital. She’s not fully recovered. I still worry about her every day but the Medicaid really helped. Is there any way you might qualify for it in your State? I’m pulling for you so much ...

Great information!

I'm sooo sick of people sayinf anorexia is the most severe eating disorder.. First of all, binge eating disorders kill more people than anorexia (look at the number of people dying from being overeating, obesity related illness etc...), but also I had anorexia which then it turned into bulimia and I can tell you for a fact that my bulimia went much much closer to killing me and destroy me than anorexia.

@jsnenenebe

Жыл бұрын

exactly, I have suffered from BED, Anorexia, and currently Bulimia and bulimia has done far more damage

I love the sweater metaphor - thank you so much. Is there any hope of recovery for someone who has struggled for over 20 years? What are your thoughts on supportive or palliative care for chronic anorexia?

@SonjaPond

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I’m not a professional-just a person working on recovery. I have heard many professionals say that it’s never too late for recovery, and I agree. It’s difficult, no matter how long you’ve been dealing with the disorder. But it’s ALWAYS worth doing recovery. Also- I live in the US, where there are several inpatient ED treatment centers. I highly recommend this setting for anyone dealing with ED, since the disorder invades every aspect of your life. It is essential that you have dedicated medical and psychological support ‘round the clock. I specifically recommend a program that focuses on intuitive eating, if you can find one. Please do it if you can! It’s life changing.

I think she did an amazing job of explaining it but there is further research on the gut bacteria we also have in our body and whether what we eat makes us feel worse or better. I personally find that it helps me not to have very unhealthy food around the house, especially chocolate but instead buy a little bit every once in a while cause it makes me want to generally eat more. I think it plays at least some part in eating disorders at least such as bulimia or binge eating disorder I don't know about anorexia. I also think self esteem plays a big role in someone who suffers from an eating disorder and shame too, but I think as pointed out by someone else who told me I think there's also a lot of anger that comes with that shame. I hadn't thought about it before but it makes sense, when I was a kid I was often taken advantage of and everyone thought that since I was quiet that they could do whatever they wanted to me. It sounds like a very common experience but I definitely feel ashamed and angry if I'm in a similar situation now and people think that they can get away with things just cause I'm quiet with them. Anyway it's not easy but I'm trying to get better hope people reach out for help more or at least for people who are not suffering from an eating disorder to have more awareness. Most of the time we don't even know we have an eating disorder so I don't think a lot of people reach out, I didn't figure out till I went to a psychologist for a panic attack, that's why it helps even a little to spread awareness so someone may notice that something is going on. It's very often not noticeable but it's still good to know the signs.

Great tedX

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Dear Liz Who, thank you for listening to my Talk. I am happy you liked it. Wishes, Ilona

food disorders are hard to treat because we have to let the tiger out of the cage three times a day

@blackvelvetbit

2 жыл бұрын

6**

It's depressing, that since this TEDTalk, the ED numbers in Lithuania are severely rising. The mental hospitals are overfilled, teens don't get the help they want, and not only for anorexia or bulimia: depression, BPD, it's awful. As someone slowly recovering from 3 anorexia subtypes and + BED, I see more and more girls my age hit my local gym looking frail, everyday I see multiple people on the street, in shops, restaurants just suffering from this. It truly isn't about food, nor that much about control, but more about WHY we want to control? Why are we so scared and insecure? Thank you for this TEDtalk, Ilona

Great tedx btw

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Hey, RAmon, I am glad you like :).

Eating disorder usually stems from low self-esteem and should be treated. The first step towards treating it is through self-love. A workbook like A Self Help Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Workbook for Eating Disorders by Portia Cruise can be a very handy companion to track your progress, stay motivated, and stay healthy.

It is very interesting but does not give much hope.. Maybe it is interesting to tell about how to treat eating disorders! because, yes it is hard!

@ilonakajokiene1436

8 жыл бұрын

+Lieke Lieke Thank you for your response. Actually, I always try to save hope till the client is coming and showing interest in himself. There is no one golden standard way to treat ED as there are a variety of ways how personality develops a disorder. But I try to balance both: the bodily issues (caring about himself; feeding himself regularly) and psychological issues (to understand the unique unconscious need to "have" an ED). It is a professional help in a search for a meaning of particular symptoms and how they help to keep (pseudo) emotional balance; shortly, it is training in teaching clients how to mentalize/to reflect on their ongoing emotional /relational experience and your limits. and many other things too :) It is why it is a long way.

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Hey, thank you Myshkin, very much. Yes, I personally have never had an ED. Nevertheless , as I have treated more than 500 clients , they helped me to learn this detail phenomenological picture of ED problems "from inside". Good luck, you.

@serenasun8279

2 жыл бұрын

agree great talk, but feel more hopeless after watching it

Bless this Rus woman.

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I am Lithuanian. It is a big difference, as my country was ocupied by Soviets more 50 years. Any way, thank you :)

@mcxlii

5 жыл бұрын

@@ilonakajokiene1436 I wanted to say the same, but you did it already :) My mom is Lithuanian, I understand you :)

My wife of 13yrs has suffered from anorexia ever since we met. I didn't know until after I fell in love something was definitely going on for her but I didn't know how serious it was. I have watched her punish herself and neglect her self for a very long time. It has had a negative impact on her older two kids that are now 19yr and 16yr we have two young boys together 9yr and 6yr. Nothing has ever changed she refuses treatment, has every excuse in the book on speed dial as to why she can't go get treatment. Losing 5pds could be dangerous for her she is so thin it scares me. I'm not able to be a support anymore I've been burnt out and my health has deteriorated greatly. I have many health issues and mental health issues now from all the stress. She won't let me touch her, make love to her, when we hug she very quickly squirms away from turns her head when I try and kiss her. I continue to display my love but I cannot be vulnerable anymore or express my needs without it turning into an argument and the kids become subject to it. I cant even compliment her without it being weaponized against me. Oh you look so pretty my love, if you find me beautiful then clearly you think other women are attractive as well!!! Who can compete with that all the time.....I haven't had a single compliment in soooo long from her, my self worth is being destroyed......it pains me deeply to say it but I have to leave her now my sons have watched there mother go down they will not see there father go down as well. She may deny herself help and us a happy wife/mother but I no longer will suffer in this. I have no choice but to divorce her, me being around allows her to stay sick.....anorexia is a very serious, serious, serious health issue it is very, very scary and desperate. I truly have so much compassion and understanding for my wife's battle and I pray that God you will forgive me for the choice I must make now and that you will heal her and deliver her from the traumas of her early life and this awful eating disorder.....God knows how much I truly love you my dear, that will never change. I feel so alone 😔

@ballroomdancer02

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to share the struggle that you are going through.

@shaillamaeb.revilla7949

2 жыл бұрын

It must be hard to share this but thank you. I hope you both find peace.

@wilmamatos9772

Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine how difficult it is. You are so brave taking about this issue. I hope you can find a counselor who understands ED to guide you during this process. The only suggestion I have for your well-being is to explore Dr. Joe Dispenza work. You might be able to find some answers. Sending prayers to you and your family.

nice

@ilonakajokiene1436

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you

So... would I complement a person with an eating disorder to increase their self-esteem or would I not say anything so I don't encourage their unhealthy weight loss?

@Zeyox96

5 жыл бұрын

You compliment them based on something that isn't and can't be tied to their weight and loss thereof. For example, I love what you did with your hair today! Your shirt is awesome. And of course just, actions and accomplishments. You got an A? Good job! That drawing's looking really good so far! Etc etc.

Why doesn't she mention EDNOS/OCFED? That's actually the most common.

@laurenb916

6 жыл бұрын

because she doesn't know what she's talking about.

@ilonakajokiene1436

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Erin. The diagnostic nosology wasn't the main focus of this lecture. :) Ilona

EMDR

Haha you can always guess Lithuanian accent

Please can someone tell me what 'normal' eating is? Does it exist? Some countries survive on the most minimal rations. Bread, water, grains, wheat, etc. Who has the 'perfect' diet, (and if you have it, please can you tell me what it is?) How we grow up shapes our relationship with food. 50 or so years ago, you ate what you were given, and couldn't leave the table until your plate was clean. People were forced to eat over-cooked bland vegetables, bland meat, bland stew. But they ate that food because they knew it was important to eat something. Now child pick and chose what they like. They choose if they want to eat or not. We expect to have nourishing and delightful food all the time. If we are not careful the next generations are just not going to get that food is not a choice. Food is a necessity. People didn't binge because they didn't have binge food to hand. You got used to a routine of breakfast, lunch, dinner and possibly supper. Now people think they can eat as and when they like and that there will not be consequences. You see young girls in their bedroom purging on fast food, junk food, convenience food, etc. If they were eating proper meals they would not have cravings like this. Yes, it's a pyschological illness, but also it's just plain common sense which really seems to have disappeared from the world these days. These women and men who suffer from these eating disorders seem to think that eating is a choice. 'Hey, look at me, I can skip meals!'. It's not cool. Yes, skips meals if you want but then pay the consequences down the line. The fact that people are so shocked that this then develops into an eating disorder, is the most shocking thing of all.

I think this identity thing is unnecessarily frightening. Eating disorders are learned behaviors, and behaviors can be unlearned. You shouldn’t frighten people, but encourage them. This is dangerous.I believe dieting is a major causative factor in the development of an Ed. I gained weight because of meds for anxiety, then yo-yo dieting caused the Ed. It is not some deep problem in one’s psyche. Do not let her scare you...just get help and you can conquer this, and it won’t take 15 years.Take up meditation and yoga to relieve the underlying stress and give up trying to lose weight quickly.

@lifesong8484

2 жыл бұрын

I think your experience is probably in the minority. For most ppl with a severe eating disorder, the rest of their life disappears, & they truly cannot see themselves outside of the ED. When it feels it has taken over your whole being, thoughts & behaviours, it does feel like it's a massive part of your identity. What the psychologist is saying isn't discouraging - to recognise the fear is to be able to overcome it 😊

@sheana2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@audreyhuggins874 I try not to insult anyone on social media, as a general rule. Yoga is not for everyone, I agree. But most people can meditate. Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly, but meditation, even after a mere 11 hours, has positive effects on the brain. Meditation relieves stress, and anything that relieves stress would help any illness, in my opinion. Studies have shown the effects to be cumulative. For me, yo-yo dieting is associated with the onset of the disorder. What is your recommendation for eating disorder treatment, professional or otherwise?

@sheana2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@audreyhuggins874 Thank you for sharing your insights. Some words you used…binge vs restrict were thought provoking. BED only acknowledges the overeating aspect of the condition. But restricting food or foods is the other important half of it. Perhaps it should be renamed to reflect that duality…..”Restrict/Binge Eating Disorder”. Somehow thinking about it in this way is helpful for me. But it scares me if I think “I am my eating disorder” as someone else commented.

This is spreading false information and emphasizes fatphobia. Anorexia is not just for people who have a low BMI or are 'thin'. Anorexia is about restricting food for control and fear of gaining weight and can affect anyone of any size.

I’m on here and the amount of people who had liked this is 666

Control, every diet and every weight is wrong. I am still complained. I am healthy weight but then people started promoting obesity I feel disgust and disappointment that this happened. Start by removing offensive and triggering articles

@ilonakajokiene1436

5 жыл бұрын

Agree . Social media has a huge impact on our perception .

Couldn't understand half of what she said.......good grief

@tomaskajokas9433

5 жыл бұрын

Dear Bear 702. You could use subtitles for better understanding of my Talk.

Very basic and not helpful. ED for the layman, anorexia 101. Medical BS. Psychedeics cure eating disorders, start there.

@ilonakajokiene1436

5 жыл бұрын

Dear Sunnieday, sorry You find my short lecture not helpful for you. I cant see the future, but the science still needs to do much more about investigating short/ long term efficacy and effectivity of such kind of drugs in ED treatment. Ilona

@michaelstanko5896

5 жыл бұрын

Ilona Kajokiene I really enjoyed your talk and learned a lot. Thanks for the good information!

@annwalkerchittenden6412

3 жыл бұрын

@@ilonakajokiene1436 friend is 6' and down to 88 lbs when sent to hospital. Now he is in hospital a month and at 108 pounds. Question is How do we find a place and Doctor that can help him? He needs an inpatient facility since he cant go home to his disabled mothers house. He is in NJ and next closest family is in KY... How do we find an appropriate facility for anorexia?

@ilonakajokiene1436

3 жыл бұрын

@@annwalkerchittenden6412 sorry, I can't help you with the right answer. You need an ED specialist from USA. I live in Eastern Europe, in Vilnius, and have no idea about the concreate anorexia treatment facilities in your country. Please find the psychiatrist from your State or City and he/she will navigate you to the nearest Ed treatment center. Take care!