The stars also didnt tell anyone they were moving, and left MN in the middle of the night to avoid protesters.

@Theo-lt7vy

27 күн бұрын

Imagine if they had cowboy colors or red white and blue

@mr75204

21 күн бұрын

Ya, all 9 people would have made quite the stink on the way out of town.

@yooowhatupribs

15 күн бұрын

​@@mr75204... Minnesota is the biggest hockey state in the country

@jasongill5390

10 күн бұрын

​@@yooowhatupribsyep 🇺🇸

@jasongarza5444

8 күн бұрын

Pretty sure that was cleveland

The Cola Wars contributed to the North Stars moving. There were talks of the team moving to the Target Center, where the Timberwolves play. However, the North Stars were sponsored by Coca-Cola, while the Target Center was sponsored by Pepsi. And the team didn’t want to break their contract with Coca-Cola. (I could have the sponsors mixed up)

@MNsportsnut

3 ай бұрын

Both were Coca-Cola at the time. Target Center didn't switch to Pepsi until 1995 and then switched back to Coke in 2016.

@sdeepj

3 ай бұрын

@@MNsportsnut I’m going off on what the North Stars’ Wikipedia page says, that the team and arena had rival sponsors, notably one was sponsored by Coca-Cola and the other by Pepsi.

@danbratten3103

2 ай бұрын

Ot wasn't just coke and pepsi. It was all sponsorship. The Northstars had McDonald's, the Timberwolves had Burger King. The owners of the wolves said the North Stars had to negotiate with their sponsors to play at Target Center. Kinda hard to negotiate when there's no competition.

@shutupandfish13

2 ай бұрын

That's the cover story. To cover norm greens sexual scandles.

@richardmanginelli2624

Ай бұрын

3 best Retro Jerseys ever North Stars Seals Whalers That's why all 3 are worn today !

a hockey team moving from up north to Texas seems wild to me.

@IMAGE_NT_HEADERS

Ай бұрын

It may seem a little odd, but it worked down here. We love the Dallas Stars

@214Ro

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂its only odd because winter sports are non-existent unless we manufacture them. ie it never freezes here but we still enjoy it a lot in fact

@yellowstone024

Ай бұрын

Love my Dallas Stars…

@th3oryO

Ай бұрын

More money (USD). It's why the Jets moved to Arizona, the Nordiques to Colorado, etc.

@evanherr7474

Ай бұрын

Unintentional pun there haha

Should have been the Lone Stars

@Tiax776

Ай бұрын

There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry.

@michaelrodriguez2784

29 күн бұрын

That was the original plan. There was even merchandise made with that name.

@MikeNourse

27 күн бұрын

@@michaelrodriguez2784 got link? can’t find that anywhere

@michaelrodriguez2784

27 күн бұрын

@@MikeNourse I can't either which makes me wonder if it's a false memory but my brain is telling me that someone on my school bus had a Dallas Lone Stars hat. This was also before the internet was widely used but I would think they would still have that information.

There were talks back in the early 2000s about the Edmonton Oilers moving to Houston. That rebrand would've been even easier

@123abyeet

28 күн бұрын

Correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t the Houston oilers already a football team until 1996?

@daved1535

26 күн бұрын

@123abyeet Yes, you are correct

The Dallas Cowboys also use a star as their logo, meaning the symbol was already relevant in the hockey team’s new home town.

@hjr228

Ай бұрын

Indeed. And Texas is the 'Lone Star' State.

F Norm Green

@danbratten3103

2 ай бұрын

Blame the fans who quit showing up in the late 70s. The original local owners were planning on folding the team because attendance was horrible. Blame Lou Nanne for turning a team from a Cup contender in the early 80s to a last place team in the late 80s. With that, blame the fans again for abandoning the team in the late 80s. Sports Illustrated even had an article about it called "Falling Stars". The Gund Brothers were planning on moving the team to San Jose before a deal was made to give them the San Jose market and keep the Stars in Minnesota. At that time, a poll was taken by the Star Tribune and Channel 5 News. 60 percent of the people said they didn't care if the North Stars left town. In comes Norm Green, who spent $20 million of his own money to renovate the Met Center because the Metropolitan Sports Commission, who owned the Met, wouldn't help. Attendance went up with the run to the finals, but by the start of the 92-93 season, the fans abandoned the team again, and attendance plummeted. Mike Modano even said that in the Stars Stanley Cup video. The fair weather fans of the Twin Cities were the main group guilty of the North Stars leaving. Case in point 5-6 seasons after the T-wolves started playing, their local owners were going broke and were going to sell that team to a group from New Orleans, who were going to move the team. Also the Twins had horrible attendance problems in the mid-late 90s and were drawing less fans than the little independent St. Paul Saints. The Twins were going to get contracted.

@tbirds5313

Ай бұрын

@@danbratten3103fuck Lou Nanne. This state treats him like hockey royalty when in reality he was a trash manager who whiffed on so many draft picks. He could have had Steve Yzerman

The reason that they left was cuz the owner was greedy and didn't like met center cuz it didn't have enough luxury boxes

@mikehanzal9562

Ай бұрын

And BTW no fans were showing up for their games. Lol. State of hockey! Let's an NHL team walk.

@lazyidiotofthemonth

Ай бұрын

@@mikehanzal9562 That is not true at all. From 1980 until the day they moved there wasn't a single game with less than 90% capacity in the stands.

@theEWDSDS

Ай бұрын

​@@mikehanzal9562they moved from the state of hockey to Texas...

@garrettchristiansen6099

25 күн бұрын

State of hockey refers to us having more people making into the nhl and dominating college hockey male and female sides and as of a few days ago the pwhl so go be mad at something else ​@@mikehanzal9562

@mr75204

21 күн бұрын

lol no. There wasn’t enough financial support from a small market. There’s more people in Dallas/Fort Worth than the entire state of Minnesota.

Actually, the owner moved to Dallas to avoid legal trouble. Better for him to relocate then resell to receive money in return than to "forcibly" lose ownership and be broke...

@amluxgaming

2 ай бұрын

You forgot to add, he was charged with sexual harassment

@jimeb2jim256

2 ай бұрын

The first several times that Dallas played the Wild the “Norm Green su..s” chants were deafening and almost endless. The move is still hated.

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

Norm's wife threatened to divorce him they did not move; and conveniently enough.

Meanwhile the Utah Jazz...😅

@IsraelMedrano

Ай бұрын

Can you explain? Not everyone is familiar with such niche information

The easiest rebrand was the San Diego Rockets moving to Houston. The Johnson Space Center is located in Houston and is the home of mission control for the space program.

@FigureFarter

Ай бұрын

Or Ft Wayne to Detroit Pistons. Detroit's well known for vehicles

Atlanta/Calgary Flames rebrand was waaaaay easier.

@Denozo88

2 ай бұрын

All the rangers did was change the city though flames isn't the first thing people come up with when Atlanta comes to minf.

@justinking3127

Ай бұрын

Even the A for Assistant captain on Calgary’s uniforms is the old Atlanta logo

@RichV20

6 күн бұрын

@@Denozo88 It was 50 years ago. Atlanta was still emerging and it was still up to that point known as Sherman's Match to the Sea and and the burning of Atlanta. Its weird that a Southern City would name themselves after a Union General's destruction of your city. Its like New England Patriots naming themselves the Boston Loyalists or New England Monarchs.

The early 80s north stars were loaded with great young talent. Bobby Smith, Dino Ciccarelli, Craig Hartsburg, Neal Broten, Al Macadam, Don Beauore, brad maxwell, curt giles and so many more. How they didn’t pull it all together is amazing

@tryste_mx

15 күн бұрын

They went to the finals in 81 and 91

According to a book I have. They were supposed to be the Dallas/Texas Lone Stars the year after the move to Dallas since it was too late to change the jerseys that year. The scheme was supposed to be red white and blue like the Texas flag with bronze as the colors but the fans liked the jerseys and the Stars name alone so it stayed.

@henrymanzano2201

2 ай бұрын

That would have been amazing - the Dallas Lone Stars. I do remember a press conference,where team officials had hats with that name on it,along with some politicians,but with the black and green color scheme. I remember thinking to myself,"they should do dark blue and silver,to tie in with the Cowboys"- a move the Mavericks would do later. To this day, I see it as a missed opportunity

@FYLife

Ай бұрын

I have some gear that says Texas Stars instead of Dallas

@GJBedrin

Ай бұрын

​@@FYLifeno that's a minor league team

@tryste_mx

15 күн бұрын

Nah, Norm Green was just greedy and didn't want to pay for the redesign lol

I love my Dallas Stars, but the Texas Lone Stars sound so much cooler to me and could actually have a color scheme that makes sense 😂

@sarahparkinson1450

2 ай бұрын

They have the Texas Stars, Ahl affiliate to the Dallas Stars

@supervilla06

2 ай бұрын

A bit of an oxymoron calling them the Lone Stars though. They did it right.

@Iraqveteran99

2 ай бұрын

@@supervilla06 Like in the movie airheads. The lone rangers? 🤣

@beneasler8868

2 ай бұрын

You wouldn't want to brand the team a Texas team and limit the state to one team. If the league expands to 38 or 40 teams I guarantee one of them will be Houston

@kylem1112

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't make sense because "lone star" is one star... "stars" is plural.

One of the biggest betrayals is n hockey history.

Financial issues my ass.

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

That's part of it. The North Stars were not drawing a dime.

I was told that the reason why they left was because the owner cheated on his wife and she was embarrassed to have him so they moved

It's odd how teams move cities in the states.

@henrymanzano2201

2 ай бұрын

Tax write-offs and opportunism,that's what it is

@Denozo88

2 ай бұрын

Teams generally don't like to move but one rational is its better to move a team rather than have it fold.

@tryste_mx

15 күн бұрын

That's commodity capitalism for ya

When they moved to Dallas, I would have loved to at least see a color change to red, white & blue. Dallas Lone Stars could have been interesting (yes, I know Lone & StarS)

Not gonna lie as a fan of the stars I think the dumbest thing they did was change there jerseys away from the coolest looking jerseys, the ones that actually hade a huge star ⭐️ on it. Why would they ever change away from that? The coolest looking jerseys imo ever!!!

Could’ve called them the Dallas Lone Stars

The Avalanche have an interesting history, winning a cup their first year in Denver after leaving Quebec City. They were terrible for years and a just as the Nordiques get good, the owner sells the team and they move to Denver to win Cups and be a part of an all time sports rivalry with the Detroit Red Wings

@tacojohns2426

2 ай бұрын

I saw you did this one already

@philtorrez4198

Ай бұрын

I’m gonna be sick if that’s what ends up happening with my yotes. Sure seems that way. We finally get a GM who knows what he’s doing, a great coach, a cupboard full of draft picks and high end prospects after DECADES of being bad to mediocre. Now they’re gone just as everything was turning around.

It was a match made in heaven. The star is a symbol already in Texas / Dallas, so it made so much sense. The Stars earned their place amongst Dallas sports.

Bring the north stars back. They had sold out every game for years and years it wasn’t financial problems and it’s wasn’t even a bigger market. There is no market more valuable than Minnesota hockey 90% of American hockey players are from the state. He left because of legal issues including sexual misconduct allegations

@iem123

3 ай бұрын

You know the North Stars basically are back right? Yes the Wild don’t have the same name and brand but the NHL isn’t going to allow Stars and North Stars to exist.

@torreyblair8361

3 ай бұрын

@@iem123 yeah make the stars change their name. Just like the titans need to let go of ownership of the oilers name. Let Houston have it

@iem123

3 ай бұрын

@@torreyblair8361 ok fair enough, wouldn’t mind seeing that, those North Star jerseys were sick

@Joe_Ma99

3 ай бұрын

@@torreyblair8361We aren’t changing our name lmao it’s been 30 years. Time to move on…

@tacojohns2426

3 ай бұрын

Minnesota has the Wild. The “Northstars” are gone until the Wild leave.

Plus Texas has the link to space/stars with NASA too (Rockets, Astro). Even though it’s Dallas and not Houston it still works.

"Quarter of a century" Yeah okay, talk about needlessly amping it up.

@phillyphakename1255

20 күн бұрын

The Minnesota Wild and the Dallas Stars now both have longer histories than the North Stars.

This summary misses like 90% of the story: the gund family (who had owned the seals/barons then merged them with the north stars) didn’t move the team, they sold them in exchange for an expansion team and started the sharks. the north stars were then split up in an expansion draft for the Sharks then their new owners moved them to Dallas. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_NHL_dispersal_and_expansion_drafts

@tryste_mx

15 күн бұрын

The North Stars weren't "split up", and your comment makes it sound like MN moving to DAL was inevitable or part of the expansion; it had nothing to do with it. The Sharks selected 24 players from MN in a dispersal draft, most of whom were career minor leaguers. MN and SJ then picked unprotected players from the rest of the NHL in the expansion draft. SJ's top pick from MN, Shane Churla, was traded back to MN days later for a player MN picked in the expansion draft. Norm Green moved the team because he's an asshole.

"Financial troubles" for the North Stars. Yeah, and in related news, I once saw Bigfoot punch Queen Elizabeth II while she was running to Buffalo.

The old logo was better than this new bright green set up

F norm green, never should've been able to leave

I miss that rivalry with the Blues.

Great vid man! ❤️

Bring back the whalers and the north stars

And the wild is now a wild card team and the stars are always playoff bound...

@Pikabo0

2 ай бұрын

I mean, the stars were a garbage fire for a good while there

@tryste_mx

15 күн бұрын

Weak correlation

It wasn't just the last owner who had financial problems with the team. The original owners almost folded the team in the late 70s because attendance dropped to less than 5,000 a game on average. The league merged the North Stars and the Cleveland Barons with the Barons' owners taking ownership of the North Stars. After starting the 80s as a Cup contending team the North Stars were again facing financial problems as the team was not playing well (that's on you Lou Nanne, worst GM ever) and attendance plummeted again. With no help with renovations to the Met and horrible attendance, the 2nd group that owned the North Stars planned on moving the team to San Jose. A deal was struck to de-merge the North Stars and Barons, the North Stars owners got the San Jose market, and the North Stars stayed in Minnesota. Oddly enough, a poll was done by The Star Tribune & Channel 5 News back when it looked like the North Stars were going to move to San Jose. 60% said they didn't care if the North Stars left town. After 2 men bought the North Stars, they brought in Norm Green, and he quickly became the sole owner. Again, attendance stunk, and the team was playing poorly. But the team got hot and made it into the playoffs going on that magical run to the finals. The next season saw the North Stars fall flat on their faces, not playing well. However, they made the playoffs but were knocked out by Detroit after going up 3-1. Their last season saw attendance drop again, and the owner, Norm Green, who had spent $20 million of his own money renovating the Met, had enough, and so did the NHL. Fans always blame Norm Green, but all they need to do is look into a mirror to see who the real guilty people are. If they hadn't abandoned the team on 3 separate occasions (late 70s, late 80s, early 90s), maybe they would've stayed there. Blame also goes to the Metropolitan Sports Commission, who fleeced ownership of the Met Center from the original owners of the North Stars who built the Met. The Sport Commission never helped any of the owners of the North Stars with renovations of the Met.

All I know is when the Stars came to Dallas it was something I’d been hoping for a long time and it was pretty easy to get great seats for the first few years until it slowly became the hottest ticket in town….Go Stars 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

The best in the NHL right now 🎉

@yellowstone024

Ай бұрын

You betcha

Nashville Stars would have totally worked too though. And TN has 3 stars on its flag. Obviosuly things worked out haha

However, the current hockey team in Minnesota has existed now as the Minnesota wild.

They weren't moving to Anaheim, they were moving to San Jose. The NHL then added the San Jose Sharks as an expansion team and sold the Stars to Norm Green who then moved to Dallas. The North Stars gave up most of the office and quite a few players to San Jose then the two of them went through the expansion draft together.

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

That was to make up for the California Golden Seals (who were based in Oakland) losing their team.

They should release the name back to Minnesota

I am surprised about the colors staying the same, definitely see the star being the same but green? I could have easily seen dark blue and red similar to the Texans and the star being white or a navy blue and white sort of like the cowboys but green is unique and I like it but I do still wonder why green.

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

The Mavericks, at the time, had a shade of green as their color (along with Royal Blue); and since the Stars were going to share an arena, it would entice people to attend their games as well. The City of Dallas has always been associated with the color green and it helped the Stars fit in.

Norm Green still sucks

Love it

And the franchise is now hated in Minnesota to this day.

From Minnesota North Stars ✨ to Dallas Lone Star ⭐️ 🤷🏽‍♂️👏🏽👏🏽

I always love the roof of the Dallas arena

Did Mike Modano really wear the captain's C (temporarily) so early? I thought it wasn't until the mid-2000s.

Easiest relocate but worst identity crisis

They have got to moce on from their current ★D logo.

The complete opposite of Utah Jazz 😂

Not the whole story. Half of the Stars went to San Jose as the owners split up.

this just resparked my hate for N.G. i refuse to say his name

Vikings and Timberwolves are loved there, but YOU KNOW Minnesotans want to get a stanley cup! Hockey is to them as football is to most states in the South

isn’t financial issues the Chiefs Might be texas 3rd football team, should’ve paid for it KC taxes are due either way

@raygremaux5146

Ай бұрын

Dude forgot to take his meds when writing this

Screw the stars.

And then they won their first ever NHL title after leaving Minnesota

A green Texas team is still a bit wired. But I’m from Houston to just hate Dallas in general

The team is trying to be like the Los Angeles Lakers😂😂

Don’t forget the golden seals

Norm Green still SUCKS. We deserve to keep the North Star branding.

North Stars should have never left Minnesota! Dallas ruins everything for Minnesotans....

Nordiques - North Stars - Stars

shoulda been the Lone Stars

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

The Lone Stars was the name of a Country and Southern Rock band; and they had dibs on the name. Also, "Stars" is much simpler and more cost saving for print production than "Lone Stars." Because there's a space between Lone and Stars, many print and embroidery companies charge for 2 runs of colors or stitching instead of one. Some companies even charge per letter.

Why didn’t they just rebrand themselves to the “Lone Stars”?

Yeah but now Minnesota team exist again so i propose a name switch Dallas Wild so we can have the Minnesota North Stars again

Can someone come to Oregon, shit

The Atlanta/Calgary Flames have left the chat

Dallas South Stars ⭐️

Should never have left Minnesota

Tbh I thought they just copied the cowboys logo

They got as being back the black and gold j’s

What about the Houston rockets

Well the fans in Minnesota were just fed up,with médiocre hockey; The North Stars moved to Big D and the "Wild" were born..,FANS WILL NOT SUPPORT A,LOSING FRANCHISE! Owners have keep good players.Get great players, re-invest inin the product every single year. LISTEN UP ALEX MERUELO.

Screw the dallas stars

People don't watch HOCKEY in TEXAS THAT'S FOOTBALL COUNTRY!!!!

@haydenthrower4710

Ай бұрын

Bro shut up the rangers and mavs have got a world championship before you have hit the championship in the last 20 years man your team suck

I think u got the ducks and the sharks backwards the expansion team they got were the sharks not the ducks "As a compromise, the league allowed the owners to sell the North Stars and be awarded an expansion franchise in the Bay Area for a $50 million fee. The North Stars were sold to a group that would move them to Dallas a few years later, and the San Jose Sharks were born as an expansion franchise" I just watched something on this the other day Walt Disney was giving the ducks, Gund brothers are the ones who own the California seals then the North Stars and they were the one who sold it to this group that relocated it in dallas and they were the one giving the San Jose Sharks as the expansion team they later sold it in 2002 .. so you made a huge mistake for this video

Fake team, and anyone who’s a “fan” should be ashamed

How did they actually think moving an NHL team out of Minnesota was a good idea

@lakebay972

Ай бұрын

Minnesota was losing money. The North Stars were not making a profit.

@j.vinton4039

10 күн бұрын

Cause it was. And still is a good idea.

@luke8838

10 күн бұрын

@@j.vinton4039 lol tell me you don’t know anything about hockey

How long before the Wild also end in Texas? 😊

@steveunderwood4003

Ай бұрын

That would be great

@internet_explorer_

Ай бұрын

No!

@steveunderwood4003

Ай бұрын

@@internet_explorer_ why not They could go to Houston Then Dallas would have another reason to hate them

@internet_explorer_

Ай бұрын

@@steveunderwood4003 because I'm a wild fan

@steveunderwood4003

Ай бұрын

@@internet_explorer_ fair enough

why not call it the Dal south stars.

Move to “Anaheim” to become “Los Angeles”, that’s as dumb as the Anaheim Angels becoming the Los Angeles Angels… Anaheim isn’t in Los Angeles nor is it in the same county.

Peter Northstars

The Dallas stars absolutely exploded hockey here in north Texas, in the DFW area we have at least 11 Ice rinks now. We legit have more rinks than most northern states now, and they’re popular. Each hosting separate beer leagues with 20-40 teams per rink.

And wild fans still likes to claim the north stars as their own. That ain’t your franchise anymore kids

@CoreyBetland79

Ай бұрын

False. Just the original 1967-1987 colors. Kelly Green and Gold. The purists would be beside themselves with anger if any of the throwbacks ever used the black jerseys They haven't asked for the name back.

Should've moved to Hollywood

Being back that logo. The new logo sucks

Dallas stars!!!!!!!

Norm Green still sucks.

As a now Texan who was born and bred in NYC and a lifelong Ranger fan, it’s awesome to see the Rangers and Stars the #1 and #2 teams in the NHL respectively. I’m hoping for the 1994 cup rematch with Rangers / Canucks, but to see Rangers / Stars in the finals would be amazing. I will get tickets for all the Star games and rock my Ranger gear, but with a cowboy hat 😬 Hockey is the best sport ever! LGR!!!

@juniorthird7952

2 ай бұрын

Go back to New York. We Texans are tired of the non sense you Yankees bring with you.

The Dallas Cowboys logo also played a big part in making the Dallas Stars popular in Dallas

NORM GREEN SUCKS!!!!!!!!

FINANCIAL PROBLEMS DIDNT MOVE THE STARS A SHIT GOVERNOR REFUSING TO HELP FUND THE ARENA MADE THEM MOVE

This is one of the times where fate just does a good job because Disney got their team close to their theme park and the Stars just fit in so well in Dallas.

Stars>cowboys ez

:)

They were never contemplating Anaheim. It was San Jose

Game 5 is about to start right now go stars ⭐ 💯

For 2 seasons, the 1990-1991 and 1991-1992, they were just known as "The Minnesota Stars". They didn't shorten the logo to show local fans they were imminent on moving. They officially changed the name to try and get fans back by shortening the name.