Easy airgun holdover tips

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Here are a few simple tips for any new air rifle owner. James Marchington shows us how to quickly discover where your rifle is shooting at different ranges. Using a cardboard box you can find out how much you need to alter your shot to hit the target from just a few yards to over 30.
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  • @rogerpowell3565
    @rogerpowell35652 жыл бұрын

    A well structured explanation. I have a Gamo .22 zeroed at 25 meters and established that I was on target at 6 meters as well. I was happy to see that as a gun enthusiast, you are both responsible and ethical. Regardless of what one is hunting, a clean shot with minimal suffering is clearly the objective. Also keeping in mind where the projectile will end up. Without the information you have so kindly provided, good bullet/pellet placement is not possible. Thanks again for your effort.

  • @TommyTucker0
    @TommyTucker0 Жыл бұрын

    how refreshing, a 3:02 video with everything explained perfectly thank you

  • @Davidtavernor
    @Davidtavernor3 жыл бұрын

    Bought my first air rifle yesterday so trawled youtube for a few intro videos - this is the most useful! Great balance of effective advice/tips while keeping concise. Cheers!

  • @petyaur
    @petyaurАй бұрын

    Simplest thing, nobody does it. Thank you. Really usable advices here.

  • @awppenheimer
    @awppenheimerАй бұрын

    That graph was so cool

  • @dekadis
    @dekadis3 жыл бұрын

    i just got this from father in law. i have no idea how airguns work and this video helps out alot.

  • @mariohernandez-eh9hj
    @mariohernandez-eh9hj Жыл бұрын

    This is what I was looking for. Because every time I change distance my scope change but now I know how it's work.thanks for all

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes650710 жыл бұрын

    I have to watch this one a couple more times, as I find that it will stay in whatever memory I have if I do this. Thanks very much, this is a great little shooting air , at least for me it is.

  • @rogergoodwin5533
    @rogergoodwin55332 жыл бұрын

    Very beneficial demonstration of pellet point of impact different distances. Thanks. I'll do it with my air rifle.

  • @dingfeldersmurfalot4560
    @dingfeldersmurfalot45603 жыл бұрын

    Very nice and easy to implement. Thank you for making something useful that I don't feel the need to go to remedial maths for.

  • @reneromans3207
    @reneromans32073 жыл бұрын

    Good day sir, watching from Imus City, Philippines. This is really helpful and I really like your videos because they are direct to the point .

  • @qg786
    @qg78610 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. Thanks! :) I have a Nikko Sterling center point scope on my crosman 1377, zeroed in at 10m and I don't have mildots to help with hold over. By using this method I can guesstimate where I should aim with my reticule. I can hit a 1inch thick stone at 20m with hold over. Also on the range card you can put angle of incline and a diagram of the reticule aim point, so that you will know where it will hit dead on. It's very satisfying judging holdover without mildots.

  • @rachidmohammedamine
    @rachidmohammedamine8 жыл бұрын

    Thank u so much it's the first time when someone explain the trajectory of the bullet so clear

  • @azharsalim2028
    @azharsalim20288 жыл бұрын

    Good info. I don't really shoot guns but shoot with a bow and arrow. The technique of pasting up the sight info on the gun stock is similar to sticking the info on my bow. Thank you.

  • @davemyers7507
    @davemyers750711 ай бұрын

    Lots of good vibes

  • @asher114
    @asher11411 ай бұрын

    If your wondering where to shoot when you don’t know how far your shooting just aim center of mass. Pellet guns are intended for small game if you hit it it’s going to die. Unless you barely nick it

  • @antoniogonzales9065
    @antoniogonzales90652 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely ingenious. Thank You.

  • @arpc
    @arpc5 жыл бұрын

    A other really useful video. Thank you!

  • @luftgewhrschutz7099
    @luftgewhrschutz7099 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, easy method without need for trajectory calc.

  • @serega4087
    @serega4087 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video

  • @matthewjdbeattie
    @matthewjdbeattie7 жыл бұрын

    Very clear and concise. Many thanks.

  • @arnab6408
    @arnab64086 жыл бұрын

    wow that's a nice way of graphical analysis

  • @paulholland3869
    @paulholland38693 жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched a few of these videos, I’ve never ever seen anybody dither so much when shooting, JUST FIRE FOR GOODNESS SAKE!

  • @ghost1852

    @ghost1852

    3 жыл бұрын

    I SWEAR🤣🤣

  • @67Bullshark
    @67Bullshark7 жыл бұрын

    THANKS!! REALLY GOOD TIPS!!

  • @Roman-lu1xn
    @Roman-lu1xn9 жыл бұрын

    Great Idea with the tape, I have to do that with my rifle asap.

  • @shotsdog-jogihillbilly3289
    @shotsdog-jogihillbilly32893 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. It shows in a clear way the ballistic curve that lead draws, in a normal range for the backyard of any shooter. Cheers!

  • @quentinnails374
    @quentinnails3745 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip.with the tape.

  • @gboutdoors5198
    @gboutdoors51988 ай бұрын

    learning your gun is the best tip

  • @Yanke92
    @Yanke926 ай бұрын

    Thanks for good news I learn alot from you

  • @dahut3614
    @dahut36144 жыл бұрын

    Twenty five yards is actually your *second* zero. I used Hawke X-ACT software, putting in muzzle velocity and ballistic coefficient of my Polymag Predator pellets. I experimented with different zero distances until I settled upon 15 yards, with 35 yards being my second zero. I printed-out the chart and remember my holdover in inches at 5 yards is 1" and at 10 yards is 1/2". Between 15 and 35 yards it only rises to a maximum of 0.4" at 25 yards. Then it just drops like a rock. At 45 yards it drops an inch and at 50 yards, two inches, but that's bigger than my yard.

  • @duraes207

    @duraes207

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey mate. My scope is zeroing to 15 yards. At 35 is like zero too? Hmm

  • @dahut3614

    @dahut3614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@duraes207 It depends upon the velocity and the B.C., but you will get one zero on the way up and another on the way down. Mine was a bit over 800 fps.

  • @duraes207

    @duraes207

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dahut3614 need to test better at 35 yards to see

  • @morrohitman
    @morrohitman2 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a sick man

  • @williamcoles3443
    @williamcoles34432 жыл бұрын

    Good shot

  • @pyrofful
    @pyrofful7 жыл бұрын

    There expensive but you may want to check out a product called "pellet pen" i just bought one and tried it a few times and it is nice for quicker reloading. Not perfect but it beats doing it by hand. Especially in the cold when you would usually have to take off your glove but not with the pen. Good video by the way

  • @ryansmith4618
    @ryansmith46189 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks for the tips it really helped me out with my shooting

  • @peterbaugh51
    @peterbaugh512 жыл бұрын

    Good video. Looks like my 1377 results with 600 fps. I read UK air pistols are set to 500 fps max? Still a punch with 22 cal. The 177 needs more speed to get power. 600 fps is plenty for my pests with 177 pointed.

  • @Frank-uf2vn
    @Frank-uf2vn4 жыл бұрын

    During the off season when squirrel is over and I just want to be in the woods, English Sparrows are unprotected and abundant so I sight it in at 9 yards and aim for the top of the head if closer then that, I never need more than that, H&N Baracuda Hunters 18.21gr work well for me at these closer ranges and are still accurate when I re sight it at 25 yards for squirrel season. I like your trajectory tape on the stock idea.

  • @davidquail5652
    @davidquail56528 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should try chairgun. I use the mobile version for iphone, and just tap my Crosman Premiers and the muzzle velocity, and it tells me how much of a drop there is, how many mils to holdover, and i can even find holdover for windage/elevation

  • @marcusvoss1138
    @marcusvoss11382 жыл бұрын

    Earned a new sub keep it up

  • @airgunmaintenance429
    @airgunmaintenance4295 жыл бұрын

    Great gun

  • @stephenwhitney2656
    @stephenwhitney26563 жыл бұрын

    Damn man you would make FOREST GUMP proud.

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f555 ай бұрын

    Very well explained. But one thing I don't get, the "cheat sheet" at the end- where it shows eg 5 yards is below the 25 yard (set) one, shouldn't you put how many of those horizontal lines (sorry I don't know the name) down from centre that the 5 yards (for example) is hitting at? Otherwise, how do you know how much further down 5 yards is from 10 yards?

  • @h.v.ihuntervlogindonesia7401
    @h.v.ihuntervlogindonesia74013 жыл бұрын

    Wowwww is the best AirGun 👍👍👍 I am from indonesia be like vidios from youtube chanel you 👍

  • @johnvelasco9951
    @johnvelasco99513 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the teaching im gonna get my gun tommorow

  • @jimmcintosh9045
    @jimmcintosh90454 жыл бұрын

    This guy never answers questions.

  • @riezkhaanna4810
    @riezkhaanna48105 жыл бұрын

    Hi im from Indonesia, i love your videos , and now im learning to hunting with airgun , would u suggest me ? What is the best BSA air rifle for beginner ? thx

  • @danielschmidt4786
    @danielschmidt47863 жыл бұрын

    Wow good idea...

  • @Raptor0256
    @Raptor02569 жыл бұрын

    i like the tape idea. good for any firearm too

  • @peterbaugh51

    @peterbaugh51

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hummm... Masking tape on my ao ring... Which is also a rangefinder... I think we have a winner here!

  • @hemnmuhammed3819
    @hemnmuhammed38198 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sir,,, nice review,,, i set my scope at 38 meters, and i have almost the same POI starting from 20 mtr up to 40 mtr ,,, i use JSB 18.13gr ,,, for my Edgun Matador at velocity 930 FPS ,,, i think the best way for all hunters is to find the best distance & velocity for zeroing the scope for getting the longest flat shooting ... of course we have to consider about the scope height and all other situations ,,,

  • @artsmith103

    @artsmith103

    3 жыл бұрын

    18gr at 930fps is a lot of energy :-)

  • @Hemnmahmmod

    @Hemnmahmmod

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@artsmith103 ... yes, but so far the accuracy is perfect, you can enjoy the power, i could hunt fox with my .22cal short version Edgun R3M.... now i have switched to .25 cal with 890FPS JSB 25gr pellets and only 4FPS spread ..great accuracy

  • @artsmith103

    @artsmith103

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Hemnmahmmod My area is elk, deer, antelope, pigeon, rabbit, squirrel, mice. So definitive groups for centerfire and then 0.17 pellet is plenty. Agree about determining maximum point blank range. For me it's +/-1" from 12-40yds with 10.5gr starting under 700fps. I have almost 8 fpe to the end. And I get to enjoy $8/500 pellets :-)

  • @markjones116
    @markjones1163 жыл бұрын

    I have been racking my brains on why zeroed at 20 my pallets was landing low at 10! And its due to the gap between scope and barrel

  • @blackbear9326
    @blackbear93268 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that mate.... Very easy to follow. 👍🏼

  • @chancho789
    @chancho7895 жыл бұрын

    Gracias, buenos datos.

  • @OllyKilo
    @OllyKilo8 жыл бұрын

    Aim for the white markings at the base of the neck. They won't spasm about like they do with a head shot and it's an instant kill. It's like nature painted a target on them.

  • @shep6123
    @shep61234 жыл бұрын

    Thank you I like that never thought about that

  • @SC-vz9ie
    @SC-vz9ie4 жыл бұрын

    Clever diagram!

  • @Docv400
    @Docv4004 жыл бұрын

    Would have been useful to see how those adjustments relate to the reticle markings on your scope.

  • @251988dannyboy

    @251988dannyboy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hes just explained it

  • @christophersanchez3213
    @christophersanchez32139 жыл бұрын

    nice tips..

  • @user-itschad1954
    @user-itschad19548 жыл бұрын

    Great video tip there sir. Thank you, just wish I could move as fast and shoot as fast as your good self.

  • @lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI
    @lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI3 жыл бұрын

    So I have to aim high at short range is what you're saying?

  • @HERO-dn3fr
    @HERO-dn3fr8 жыл бұрын

    What kinda scope is that if you have a link that would be great

  • @ranatouqeer3918
    @ranatouqeer39183 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @richardherrington2852
    @richardherrington28523 жыл бұрын

    How do you shoot video thru the scope when you are shooting?

  • @dougfitch3649
    @dougfitch36492 жыл бұрын

    My understanding is that airguns in England are likely to be less powerful than here in the USA. Am I right to reason that you'd have more drop then with a similar pellet?

  • @CHOPERUS23
    @CHOPERUS2310 жыл бұрын

    Nice video my mate. What scope is it at the beginning? I like the reticle, looks similar to my vipers.

  • @StrictlyShootingUK

    @StrictlyShootingUK

    10 жыл бұрын

    Hi, and thanks CHOPERUS23. That scope is quite an old one, a Nikko Stirling Nighteater 4-16x44. It has a parallax adjustment wheel on the side, which I find helps me focus when I'm filming through the scope. And yes, I do like that reticle as it helps with gauging windage as well as holdover.

  • @CHOPERUS23

    @CHOPERUS23

    10 жыл бұрын

    Is it the LRX Reticle James? I like the fact that there are many longitudinal holdover points. My Mtc Viper has only half of these which does restrict the hunting range on my Fac mk2 Rapid.

  • @paulfensome1404
    @paulfensome14045 жыл бұрын

    Would it not be better to put some tape on the Focus ring and just mark of the amount of Holdover or under , but that way you don't have to keep getting out your Rangefinder. Better and Quicker for Hunting

  • @powersonic6255
    @powersonic62556 жыл бұрын

    Nice informative video.

  • @KevinPerez-cx4qh
    @KevinPerez-cx4qh5 жыл бұрын

    What type of ride are you using?

  • @kimberkimber3365
    @kimberkimber33656 жыл бұрын

    Good

  • @92sadventure71
    @92sadventure717 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap my Benjamin titan np was shooting shit then I did your instructions and I have finally hit targets at 25 yards thank you! Next goal would be to make the groupings sub 2"

  • @artsmith103

    @artsmith103

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know the energy of that rifle but try a pellet weight that will slow the velocity below 800 fps.

  • @tavismacdonald7759
    @tavismacdonald77593 жыл бұрын

    How much was that scope and whats the power ?

  • @truth409
    @truth409 Жыл бұрын

    Scope is above barrel......noted....

  • @whynot-ts9rf
    @whynot-ts9rf6 жыл бұрын

    whot is this scope?

  • @ShahulHameed-xp6yb
    @ShahulHameed-xp6yb5 жыл бұрын

    This air gun name and rate show you please sir

  • @HabiburRahaman-sy2tz
    @HabiburRahaman-sy2tz5 жыл бұрын

    How to buy a lens

  • @himurabattousai6538
    @himurabattousai65387 жыл бұрын

    useful

  • @xincarceratedx
    @xincarceratedx Жыл бұрын

    What'd you fill the box with

  • @anonymouscolombia6880
    @anonymouscolombia68808 жыл бұрын

    que mira me recomiendan para hacer tiros de 60 metros gracias o una mira bien buena

  • @ruizantonio0112
    @ruizantonio01124 жыл бұрын

    You shoot whit forest?

  • @therrienmichael08
    @therrienmichael082 жыл бұрын

    I'm good with iron sights

  • @whynot-ts9rf
    @whynot-ts9rf6 жыл бұрын

    whot is a scope?

  • @Janus-fn2uz
    @Janus-fn2uz Жыл бұрын

    "Sitting" there.

  • @rajibahamed5041
    @rajibahamed50417 жыл бұрын

    how much this air gun...?

  • @ginmawivaiphei9365
    @ginmawivaiphei93653 жыл бұрын

    Sir..can I buy airgun

  • @Bruh01234
    @Bruh012345 жыл бұрын

    I feel sorry for the pigeon

  • @brendonschaufelberg8288
    @brendonschaufelberg82889 жыл бұрын

    Man I feel sorry for you fellas in the UK. Here in the USA we could use a 10 guage or a 30-06, but it is a good idea to have a solid back stop.

  • @mikepearce6871

    @mikepearce6871

    9 жыл бұрын

    Y do u feel sorry for us??? We can use 10 guage over here, we can also use elephant guns and 50 cal its just hard to get in to clubs that will lat you shoot them

  • @mikepearce6871

    @mikepearce6871

    9 жыл бұрын

    Shotguns r the easyest to get in the uk

  • @atzerath

    @atzerath

    9 жыл бұрын

    While it might be true that guns are more easily attained in the us I think the UK hunters are better shots and would wipe the floor with most us hunters when on equal terms.. EDIT: AIRGUNS!!!BRITS ARE BETTER WITH AIRGUNS!!! WITH ANYTHING ELSE; AMERICANS ARE BETTER BECAUSE THEY USE ABSURD AMOUNTS OF FIREPOWER 'CAUSE OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT MISS OR WHAT EVER IT WAS THEY WERE SHOOTING COULD EITHER RUN OR FIGHT BACK... i had to edit this for usmcjd24 and he's a veteran...never get into an argument with a veteran, god knows what PTSD might cause...

  • @usmcjd24

    @usmcjd24

    9 жыл бұрын

    atzerath Well, good luck with that opinion. Give me 1 reason why that statement is true other than just some chest beating, because i wouldn't believe it for a second. Reason 1 from my point of view, i believe we probably have more hicks, most of the time they can shoot pretty straight even after a few. Reason 2, we have a larger standing military, hence we have more veterans, most of which are usually trained to shoot even in non-infantry military occupations.

  • @usmcjd24

    @usmcjd24

    9 жыл бұрын

    atzerath Well first off i can say, as a USMC Vet (hence the SN), a firecracker at my feet wouldn't make it so i can't shoot straight (which is why we would train under those conditions, exactly so we could shoot straight) and for the most part in my experience the vast majority of vets are taken very well care of, we're not helpless and damaged. It's hard to complain with free healthcare benefits, as well as getting school payed for. Almost every one that i have served with has actually been very successful after getting out.That's the difference between thinking you know about a group of people, and actually knowing. Also, yes you are chest beating, and it doesn't matter whether you're British or not. Maybe the phrase eludes you, it is bragging or boasting that one group of individuals is better than another. Which is what you've managed to do in both posts, only one of which made any sort of valid argument. I would reasonably entertain the idea that UK air rifle hunters are better shots and those of us here in the US based on the fact they use smaller caliber rounds at a slower velocity that are less forgiving to shot placement. Therefore they have to make sure every shot counts. Except in your first post you never specifically mentioned shooting with air rifles, just shooting in general. Now that is what an intelligent response in a conversation would look like, however i don't feel you'll be taking that route anytime soon, seeing as how you proceed down the path claiming we use grenades and shoot mice with pistols, that is more along the lines of an argument my 5 year old would come up with. I would venture to say anyone reading this conversation would say that me being "ameritrash" doesn't sound like the one being full of myself, as opposed to the undefined culture you claim as your own. And i am in no way trying to change your opinion nor was i offended. What i was wishing you "good luck" with was making any sort of a valid argument that the average UK shooter (in general) would "wipe the floor" with the average American shooter. You are correct in the fact that every person is entitled to an opinion, unfortunately some opinions do show how entirely ignorant someone is when they can't make a clear point without trying to insult the person they are talking to. Again, good luck with that.

  • @ZK-rf4mf
    @ZK-rf4mf7 жыл бұрын

    Hello SIR..Please Tell me what's the name is This gun???and model ???

  • @Cornet_Tooter

    @Cornet_Tooter

    6 жыл бұрын

    zehad khan- Did your video have any audio? He clearly said it was a BSA Meteor...

  • @muhammadahmadnadeem1869
    @muhammadahmadnadeem18697 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the air rifle you used in this video?

  • @kwakamonkey

    @kwakamonkey

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bsa meteor

  • @nelsonalmonte5135

    @nelsonalmonte5135

    7 жыл бұрын

    ahmad nadeem

  • @alienznz782
    @alienznz7823 жыл бұрын

    Dude this guy alwayd complains for no reason :)) like he has perfect shot situations but always finds a reason not to shoot

  • @bume2212

    @bume2212

    3 жыл бұрын

    This isn't CoD or any other shooting game, its real life of course he need confidence when to shoot

  • @alienznz782

    @alienznz782

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bume2212 dude im a hunter and yes when shooting large game maybe u gotta be sure it hits the perfect spot but not for those small animals :)) He is just being a silly old man..seems to me like hes way too bored and tries to waste as much time doing this hobby

  • @gangsta1355

    @gangsta1355

    3 жыл бұрын

    He just wants to ensure a clean quick kill without unnecessary suffering via shooting it in the body and it getting away

  • @JazzFN165

    @JazzFN165

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ong🤣🤣

  • @squaretorttle9400

    @squaretorttle9400

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alienznz782 every stamens you’ve made so far is stupid, the guy in the video is making really good points and he is providing help to new shooters

  • @antonioacaciosousabarbosa610
    @antonioacaciosousabarbosa6103 жыл бұрын

    Thank you are you aren't the same time for the first half of my friend

  • @ryderplaysytofficial8018
    @ryderplaysytofficial80183 жыл бұрын

    Now you understand my pain

  • @augusttherebel948
    @augusttherebel9483 жыл бұрын

    Use a shotgun. And I know if you shoot a pellet and you hunt with a pellet gun then you should know that pellet guns don’t go to far.

  • @CurtF94
    @CurtF946 жыл бұрын

    I use a 25L plant pot (full of soil) just tip it on its side and shoot into the dirt

  • @Ravello1111111111111111111

    @Ravello1111111111111111111

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Alan Cogan have you tried hamsters yet?

  • @danielneil180
    @danielneil1805 жыл бұрын

    Please make a video on how and where to buy guns and scopes?? Please sir

  • @nate_452_2

    @nate_452_2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Neil Airgun Depot

  • @nate_452_2

    @nate_452_2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Where I buy all my stuff from

  • @keesbakker2318
    @keesbakker23183 жыл бұрын

    I dont think your scope is correctly mounted.

  • @iAteYourDog69
    @iAteYourDog694 жыл бұрын

    Just enter the data into chairgun and look at how many mildots to hold

  • @arnoldbperry4219
    @arnoldbperry42193 жыл бұрын

    You can shoot the second pidgeon

  • @GoofiestTroll
    @GoofiestTroll9 ай бұрын

    How much joules is this airgun ?

  • @fieldsportstv

    @fieldsportstv

    9 ай бұрын

    16

  • @GoofiestTroll

    @GoofiestTroll

    9 ай бұрын

    @@fieldsportstv ok thanks :)

  • @SimpleFutures
    @SimpleFutures7 жыл бұрын

    you don't have to take a headshots on pigeons

  • @TCFranklin1

    @TCFranklin1

    7 жыл бұрын

    apocalypse_gaming1 an ethical hunter would.

  • @williambeveridge9939

    @williambeveridge9939

    7 жыл бұрын

    apocalypse_gaming1 wrong

  • @tubblehelescope-6282

    @tubblehelescope-6282

    6 жыл бұрын

    william beveridge erm how ?? Lmao

  • @edgarlombera7066

    @edgarlombera7066

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kopsu head/ neck shot is always lethal. No living creature walks away from a shot to the brain or severed neck.

  • @tudorfanman2620

    @tudorfanman2620

    5 жыл бұрын

    Only an idiot or a sadist shoots anything other than a humane kill. When I was a kid I shot a number of birds using open sights only to see them fly off and drop 100yds away. Always regretted that. What a moron I was...

  • @whynot-ts9rf
    @whynot-ts9rf4 жыл бұрын

    Whot is a scope?

  • @fieldsportstv

    @fieldsportstv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Riflescope - it goes on the rifle. / Charlie

  • @pokemanni
    @pokemanni8 жыл бұрын

    how much joule has this air rifle

  • @kwakamonkey

    @kwakamonkey

    7 жыл бұрын

    Up to 16joules. Will be much lower though.

  • @steve-oh1020
    @steve-oh10205 жыл бұрын

    Pigeon pie for supper 👌

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