Airgunning for Beginners - Ultimate Guide to Hold Over / Under, Windage and Cant
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In this episode we tackle head on the topic of hold over, hold under, windage and cant. What are these terms and how do they effect your shooting and aim point.
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This is so helpful. I've been shooting air guns for 50 years. No one taught me anything and only hours of practice got me on target. For the first time ever I can now understand what I've been doing for years. Now I'll be able to do it all much quicker. Thanks.
@dmo848
2 жыл бұрын
That's funny. I learned by just shooting also. Nowadays thankfully I have KZread to teach me. Learned so much from KZread
Just taken up air rifles after very many, many years. I found this really helpful, explained in straight forward easy to understand terms. Thanks you Steve for your excellent explanation.
I have now watched all of your informative videos for beginners and I found then very easy and uncomplicated to follow Steve.I am just starting out with this new hobby as a retired person and hope that I am going to enjoy this sport.Thank you Steve for putting these videos on here. Good man.
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
john smith thank you and I am glad they were helpful to you. Good luck in the new hobby.
Scope mounts and distance between barrel and scope play a huge part in this also.
Steve, A first class explanation and great use of simple visuals to get the tutorial across. I sat with the laptop running whilst going through the motions with my newly purchased Weihrauch HW100 KT... now I properly understand the principles of hold under and hold over! Thank you buddy!!
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent the the video has filled its purpose. Glad it helped you and please share.
After many years of shooting air rifles there is always more to learn and be reminded about. Excellent video cheers.
I had asked a question in your previous tutorial, but I think you have answered in this session. Great teaching. Keep it up.
The best video and explanation on this subject on KZread. Thanks a lot!!
Great video explains everything as simple as possible, good job 👍
Nice simple explanation, for a beginner (well, returning after 45yrs!!) just what we need - thanks.
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and thanks for watching. Please share
Explained it brilliantly for a complete beginner like me, love it. Thankyou for your time and sharing :)
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
Azzy P thanks
Finally an explanation of hold under and over I actually understand! I’ve spent the last weekend watching KZread videos on this subject and after watching you Steve, I’ll just practice!. I should’ve watched yours first and saved myself a lot of angst and time!
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, glad it helped. Please share
Thanks Steve for such a well explained video. I am a novice,and has really got me understanding more. Thanks again,and I’ve just subscribed.Atb👍🏻
Thank you Allan! I enjoy your very clear, thorough and detailed (and entertaining) videos. Mahalo from Hawaii (The Big Island)
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Pleasure, please share
As a newbie, i appreciate your time thank you fòr this and definitely give this a go tomorrow
New to air rifles and didn't know any of this. I feel really informed now and cant wait to get started. Great video!!!!
Very well said Steve , this video of yours really informative . Lots of thanks , hope more videos like this . Keep safe and God bless.
Absolutely brilliantly explained. It certainly helps any beginner to understand the basic concept of hold over, hold under and cant. Thank you.
@airgunology
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent . Easy to follow and very intuitive. And despite stating at the beginning of the video this would be simplistic there always one .... or two. Keep it up
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
Nice perspectives! Ten meter under, 25 meter on, 35 meter under. Hold over! Nice! Birdy drops. Hard cross wind will also lift or drop pellet according to right hand twist. Right wind pushes pellet right, and pellet drops also, if my old memory serves correctly! Gust pushes me, or gust at target, variables. Experience, practice, memory, it all Matters.
Well done Steve another informative video that people can understand Iv been shooting for years and I still get confused when I see people trying to explain this subject Keep up the good work mate
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
One of the best and simplest descriptions of HoldOver, HoldUnder and Cant I've seen. I think HoldOver is pretty straightforward, but people struggle to understand HoldUnder when shooting at shorter distances than the zero point. But this explains it perfectly. Well done, Steve.
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony :)
The best explanation on you tube so far. Simple and easy to understand.pleas so a video non long range shooting and how to use MOA stuff as well Thank you, Steve.
Thanks Steve that was very clear and concise. Being a newbie I’m keen to get something down on paper but wasn’t sure how to do it. The apps are a bit daunting but this will get me started.
What a fab channel! I've just invested in my first ever air-rifle. I've not used a weapon for years since firing SLR 7.62, Heckler Cock 22, Lee Enfield 303, GPMG in the forces during the late 1980's. These vids are awesome. Thanks for taking the time. Subbed.
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and watching buddy, enjoy it and join the FB group.
I just found your Series Of Videos and find them very informative and Well done.Im new(About a Year)To Air Guns,But not to Firearms.I have an AR15 and Several Handguns(Real Firearms).I got into it for A way to “Scratch the itch” for shooting & Pest Control around my House & Garden.I don’t have the time to get to the Range a lot,So shooting my Air Gun helps retain my Aim,Safety(Handling,Mounting Optics etc)And is Just Fun!!! I Never Realized how Realistic these Guns Can be,And So Many Choices.Anyway,Just wanted to say Great Job and these Videos are very Helpful to New Shooters,Teaching what to do and Can help Younger Viewers learn Gun Safety If they decide to Get “Real”Firearms.
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Echo, thanks and welcome to the sport. It is very extensive with so much out there to experience.
That was very very good....I’m 60 and been mucking about with air rifles since I was 12...I’ve learned this stuff by experimenting...wish I could show this video to the 12 year old me...thanks 👍👍😀
Absolutely superb. Learned, liked and subbed. Thank you!
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, more videos in this serious coming soon. Also don't forget to join our FB group facebook.com/groups/351221505224875/
Have donated Steve. Thanks for all the superb tuition.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Received. Many thanks Graham and appreciated. It will be put to good use with the channel.
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you for posting 🙏
Great explanation. Easy to understand. Thank you.
Bloody superb tutorial, some people forget that we all wear "L" plate's at the start., It's great that you take the time to post these vid's and in such a way that is both benificial and constructive to both the beginer and the one's who think they know it all. Thank's Steve....Billy.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Everyday is a school day and no one is above learning something extra. I remember how hard it was to learn air rifles and sometimes being scared to ask the silly questions.
Fantastic video sir (also referring your zero scope video too in these comments). I am a beginner with a gas ram and this clear instruction has crystallised my understanding of the overarching physics of shooting and practically, it will no doubt help a lot when i can put it in practice. I now realise zeroing my scope at 10m then 25m in a significantly downward sloping garden (cause its all i got) isn't going to help matters! Dam dem slopes lol. Your 'hold over/under' explanation and advice was simple but brilliant. Thanks Steve. Hope you are well. Paul
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped.
I'm not a beginner but enjoyed watching this Steve. Wished I'd seen this 20 years ago. Keep it up brother
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
:) will try as long as people are subbing and watching
I'm not a beginner mate. But of all the videos I've watched on this very interesting subject, yours is by far the easiest to understand. Well done 👍🏼
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Black Bear thanks mate.
bloody fantastic ( dont usually swear ) couldnt have put it better myself " indeed " I couldn't explain it at all ...been shooting for 45 yrs , and all this becomes automatic ... then again ive been able too speak for 56 yrs and would be absolutely talking drivel trying too explain ... a masterclass in explanation ... BLOODY EXCELLENT !!!
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. I enjoy doing this type of thing :)
Thanks Steve for a clear and concise explanation 👍 👏 💓
I am over the moon I found your Chanel Steve thanks for the tutorials. Keep up the good work
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Glad they have helped.
Great explaination for a beginner. The beginning of the world of ballistics opens for me! I’ll realise have a lot of practise to do. But with fun. Thnaks Steve
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Very well done. You explained it clearly and anyone should be able to understand. I have a level on every scope and one on the rifles optics rail on some.
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome and thanks, glad it helped
Very well explained! Thank you very much!
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed, please share for others
Thank you for the simplistic delivery. ...the light bulb just went off inside my head
Congrats on your so didactical and practical lessons
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, i think after looking up the meaning of didactical :)
Very helpful videos,thank you Steve.
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Hi Steve, a massive Thank You for this newbie series. Really well structured, presented and easy to understand 👍😃
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
Good descriptive video. I'm new to scopes and thus has helped.
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you please share
Your channel is so rich with information.. it is really good... it is honest.. nice subject ... good luck
Well Steve, speaking as a very experienced rifleman (of 68 years).. I am pleased at how well you did your zeroing and hold over/under/windage videos. This can be very hard for beginners to learn on their own and your explanation was succinct and on point.. well done! Those of us with a lot of experience sometimes forget that not everyone knows the basics.. As a man of many years of experience I want to thank you for picking up my slack in that I forget to teach these things sometimes.. Carry on son!
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy, much appreciated
@tinkmarshino
4 жыл бұрын
@@airgunology Steve.. I always appreciate folks who pass on what they know to others.. Making it kind of a tradition.. I wish more of us would do that. Carry on brother.. well done!
Cracking vid this mate...you explaned and demonstrated it very very well...note book and pen is the way foward...and not the calculator....🤣😅🤣 nice one...👍👍👍👊...Tom in Leeds.
THAT 'S AWESOME ! THANKS AND MORE POWER STEVE .
Brilliant vids! Thank you 🙏
Thanks your explanation because really helpful for beginner.
Simply explained thank you so much 👍👍👍
Very well put together vid, well done.
REALLY useful Steve, learned a lot mate. Thank you for your efforts it is really kind of you.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Make sure you check out the other videos in the series.
@drguy2156
7 жыл бұрын
I have watched all of your videos so far mate, love them!
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, much appreciated :)
Brilliant. I learnt so much here.
useful explanation , many thanks!
Thank you so much for this & the zeroing tutorial.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
A pleasure
Very informative and useful. Thanks mate...
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped :)
Very good explanation!!!
Really useful video, thanks
Great simple informative video ....
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you.
Nice video, thank you for taking your time out to make this, very helpful, what's a decent scope for an air rifle without braking the bank. Thank you
enjoyable video steve, not too much jargon to prevent you from getting lost and easy to follow.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I was trying to keep it simple for beginners.
Excellent video, thank you
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks please share and join our groups
superb .... not over the top which could put off new starters (we all started somewhere) but plenty of good stuff to start folk on the right track. plus not just "do this"...but why do you do this... top video !
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad I got it just right. Please share
FANTASTIC Steve.. Im knew to airgunning and this absolutely helped me no end. The diagrams were a great help... i never knew abot CANT and its something I know know i need to work on. My scopes are the hawke side winder 30 sr6.... NO MIL DOT.... just a few horizontal and vertical lines nowhere near cross hairs.... ANY ADVICE on how you use them for hold over/under?? I have tried looking on youtube. Cheers buddy. 👍👍👍👍
At 3:40, I believe your comment is incorrect. If you need to adjust elevation to raise the point of impact by turning the elevation dial, the horizontal crosshairs inside the turret will actually move down in the turret, not up. The crosshairs will now be low on the target, thus making you raise the gun to bring them back on target.
@SC-bg8wf
3 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct. Strange nobody else has noticed this very significant error.
Steve, you answered a question that’s plagued me for some time-and that’s how zoom affects point of impact. I was led to believe that zoom did not have an affect on POI but it does-not many people understand this. So now I have to zero at distance but also include on the range card holdover/under at different magnifications. Thank you!
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome and I am glad the video helped. Please check the others and share as much as you can :)
@Mizman76
5 жыл бұрын
Zoom does NOT affect POI. It affects what you see through your scope is all. Say you have a 3-9 scope. Put your crosshairs at a spot drawn on the target at exactly above the bullseye. Now look at the mil dot below crosshair. It will look MUCH lower on the target than if you crank power up to 9 and hold the crosshairs on that same spot 1"above. At 3 power the mil dot may be on the actual bullseye while at 9 power it my be halfway down the paper or even OFF the paper. The gun will still hit the same place your aimed(POI) you're just actually aiming at a different spot if using mil dots at different magnifications. In as simple terms as possible. At 3 power the first mil dot will be at a (fairly drastically) different spot on the target as that same mil dot is at 9 power. Crosshairs stay the same regardless of the power.
@PeakyBlinder
3 жыл бұрын
If you use a first focal plane scope it will make no different to the poi, a second focal plane does make a huge difference, as a rule i use second fp and zero at 30 yards on a 10 times mag and don't bother with zoom.
Great explanation Steve :) subscribed...
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
Good work 👏
Lovely made. Thanks for your time doing this éducative vidéo. I learned a lot 😊. Would you consider making a beginner video with all the different scopes out there? First person shooting versus all the other... For many of us it is a jungle and it happend to me to buy the wrong optics for specific guns and or spwcific use of a gun...
Well explained thx and subbed
Bob on tutorial mate, finally the mists are starting to clear lol. Will try this on 60 meters at the range this weekend and see if I can even hit the bale my target will be attached to!!🤪
@airgunology
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy
Very goo explanation. Thank you.
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
👍👍👍 Nice video. Very informative.
@airgunology
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, please share.
Great video Steve. Thanks very much. Cleared up one or two points I was getting stuck on. Very clear, concise and sometimes funny. This air rifle malarkey is a lot more complicated than I thought. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of other videos in your series. Apologies, I'm not on Facebook or Twitter (don't believe in social media!)
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Micky, thanks, try here to my other videos in the playlist - kzread.info/head/PLMMXONWj4tkzCY7RXo0AzJ0wcUkwK7IZZ
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to subscribe and from there you can browse my 100+ videos
@cozzie4937
5 жыл бұрын
Already subscribed thanks Steve.
Really good video thanks alot
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks and please share
Very helpful!
Very nice!
Steve great job thanks USA
Brilliant thank you,
Spot on... Thank you very mutch...
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome
Thanx for this info!
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
NP :)
The pellet starts of lower than the dotted line, will cross it twice. Once when it is climbing and once when it is dropping. This is important for a beginner to know.
@aannddyychang6162
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't know why he missed the first zero point. I'm wondering what's the range between first and second zero point.
Whilst I admire you for taking the time to make these videos, I think you have forgotten that the pellet must rise from the barrel to the scope line (near zero) then rises further before it falls to your 25 yard zero. It should be 'holdover' for very close shots as well as those past the chosen zero range. 'Holdunder' is only for the targets between the 2 zero points.
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
I understand and knew this, but I wanted to keep the video as simple as possible for the target audience of newcomers to the sport. There is obviously much more physics going on with hold over / under and maybe I will do a more advanced version of the video at a later date. Many thanks for your comments as the more information out there, the better for all.
@simonspencer65
Жыл бұрын
This has baffled me I zeroed at 25,so shooting at a 10 yard target I have to hold under?
@Sherlock-py2hh
Жыл бұрын
@@simonspencer65 The trajectory will depend on the height of the scope above the barrel and the power of the rifle. I zero both .177 and .22 at 25 yards , .177 near zero is 20 yards and .22 has a near zero at 13 yards (the pellets flies more slowly). Between the 2 zero points the pellet is above the crosshairs.
Grest Vid. Thanks.
@airgunology
5 жыл бұрын
I am glad you liked it.
If you’re shouting at say 10 yards you will actually have to hold OVER not under as the pellet is still rising to the top of its trajectory. This is worth clarifying.
Good man!
I really appreciate your time on doing your videos but im still confused on second focal plane scopes i own the gamo swarm magnum gen2 .22 cal...from what ive heard is that when zeroing these scopes it has to be on the highest power...i zeroed mine at 50 yards but in the lowest power this way i know my holdover but when i switch to 7 power thats when it gets tricky for me i like the FOV in 7 power thats the only thing i like....will my center crosshair change or will it hit every time as the distance changes?? I would really appreciate your response thank you And the last thing i would like to know is adjusting my power will only affect my holdover or holdunder right but not my point of impact which would be center?
Atmospheric pressure (sunny & wet days) also has an effect on the pellet's trajectory!!
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does for the more advanced shooter.
Thank you
Hi Sir, hopefully you can answer this.. I got my scope zero at 25m, at 40m it takes one dot over, and strangely..at 12m it also takes one dot over. Because looking at your videos, the closer the target..the impact point supposed to be hold under. It got me so confused, maybe you can share some lights... Thank you Sir..
If my zero point is at the top of trajectory it is roughly the same holdover if I intersect at the same distance either side. If I am zeroed at 30 yards and aim centre at 10 it shoots low and I have to hold over. If I go to 50 at centre it also shoots low and also requires holdover 👍👍
10/10 you nailed it just giving you some food for thought I got so raped up in wanting to put pellet on pellet I started to not injury shoting one day at the range one of the lad siad to get so big targets like tins and plastic bottles and shot them and just get used to the rifle then every now and then have a go at pellet on pellet it was one of the best tips I have had well dun on your vids (si) :-) stay happy
@airgunology
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome and thank you for the support.
Nice video
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
Great explanation Steve. Thanks. Quick question if I may. I guess it makes sense to zero at the top of the trajectory curve. With a .177 at 11 ftlbs and a rather heavy pellet (Bisley Magnum) how far away is the top of the curve likely to be (roughly)? Thanks.
@cyruslever586
9 ай бұрын
Google airgun drop calculator. There's several, the American airgun one works well for me.
Hello, i would like first to thank you for the informative video i understand most if it , i have a question about the trajectory of pellet . If for example i have gamo airgun with .22 cal with jsb 18.13 gr , and i zero my gun at 25 yard (primary zero), 1-How would i know the distance of my (secondary zero)? 2-And also how many mildot i need to hold over or under if my target not in my zero range? Thank you so much
@airgunology
4 жыл бұрын
You can calculate it, but to be honest, test firing is the way for both of your questions. Test fire and work it out and jot it down on a card you carry as most shooters / hunters do.
@jamesbond1168
4 жыл бұрын
@@airgunology thank you so much
At 3:40 you are wrong the crosshairs will move down to meet the actual point of impact. You then raise the rifle to aim at the bullseye. You may be getting confused by the turret direction you are turning being marked as UP or similar , this refers to the direction you want the point of impact to be moved. Another person has also made the same comment.