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@jamesjackson65639 күн бұрын
You just got a new subscription here. I love earth x i read it in 2004. I was shocked to see what happened to all of the heroes especially my favorite Spider-Man.... but im glad he became a comic and got himself together. And mayday as venom was cool too. Most people didn't even finish the entire trilogy. Earth x, universe x and paradise x.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
8 күн бұрын
I haven't gotten to Universe X yet, but I'm excited to check it out. I'm also told that "Spider-Cop" comes from this series too, so that's another feather in the Earth X universe's cap.
@jamesjackson6563
8 күн бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie that's right. The real spider-cop. Officer parker. I don't like that insomniac Spider-Man ps4/ps5 joke. It's nonsense honestly. I can't recommend universe x enough. Paradise x the final part was decent. I believe the earth x saga was supposed to have more parts but unfortunately it was halted due to low sales. Once you read paradise x you'll see what I mean. There's A LOT left unfinished and unanswered. Read the spidey special for universe x absolutely amazing.
@adamquenano8563Ай бұрын
NGL, Fat Peter Parker was a reason I never wanted to read this at first.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
LOL same. But he's actually really endearing here. ITSV definitely took some cues from this.
@adamquenano8563
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie This interpretation of Peter Parker is incredible I hope it’s adapted one day, minus being fat
@franciscoOrellana29
Ай бұрын
@@adamquenano8563😂he got carried away a little chill
@jamesjackson6563
9 күн бұрын
@@adamquenano8563 I hope it's adapted with him being fat he loses the weight and becomes a cop.
@borntosyn498Ай бұрын
Read Earth-X back in 2018 and loved it - thanks for covering this sleeper! The world deserves to know about this
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
It's baffling how low under the radar this book flies.
@borntosyn498
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Agreed. I loved Peter's character arc - seeing him so bitter and hopeless was gut wrenching upon first read lmao
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@borntosyn498 Same. I'm a sucker for stories where the protagonist gets old and has to relearn the lessons from their youth from a different perspective.
@SolidSpadesIsANerdАй бұрын
You sold me at "Mayday Parker"
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
[Slaps a copy of Earth X] This baby has so much Mayday Parker. And wait'll you see the sequels...
@nestordanielmunozalva4349Ай бұрын
This comic, to me, is very weird in terms of Iron Man. He is treated as this broken and hyper-serious genius that wants to have every single detail in control from the shadows. That feels very Batman-ish and I find it jarring. I thought that mfs thing was him using his suit as a way to escape reality and eventually finding hapiness in his own skin. Maybe this is what separates this comic from Kingdom Come; while KC evokes adoration for classic DC, Earth-X deconstructs the characters completely, AND BOTH ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR DOING SO.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I'll dedicate a video to KC one day. But the thing I like about Earth X isn't that it's deconstructionist in nature. In fact, I don't see it as a deconstruction at all. If anything, it feels like "the next chapter" that we'll never see in the Marvel Universe, because American superhero comics are perpetually stuck in their "iconic status quo".
@mayotango1317
Ай бұрын
That is the real Iron Man. No the joke MCU one.
@TevyaSmolkaАй бұрын
Earth X as a story i thought is interesting but as a fan of mayday parker spider-girl and peter parker story to tell you the truth this isn't really my favorite interpretation of that relationship but that's just my opinion.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I like the idea that after MJ dying, and having his identity revealed, Peter curls back into his reclusive shell, and has to relearn what it means to be Spider-Man as an adult.
@TevyaSmolka
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie I can understand that but personally for me as a huge fan of mayday parker spider-girl and Peter parker and mary jane as a family seeing them fall apart literally in that dark future is just depressing in my opinion.
@redrasegarden7 күн бұрын
I got a copy. Seems like it’s picking up popularity recently. Also, I’m curious what you meant by kingdom come being bad.
@redherringoffshoot2341Ай бұрын
ngl sometimes I confuse Johnathan Hickman and Robert Kirkman together cause of how similar their names sound
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I still get Warren Ellis and Garth Ennis mixed up sometimes frfr.
@redherringoffshoot2341
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Istg it’s those mfs w/ similar sounding last names lol
@user-zx9yc7sm1zАй бұрын
Marvel never stopped being political, specially in the 2000s, so that desire to tackle heavy themes was present and even increased by the events at the time. So...what do you mean exactly? Some of the comics that complement Secret Invasion are horrorific, in the good sense. At the same time, Kang Dynasty is touching on that hopelesness in battling an entity with god-like powers. (Kurt Busiek's Avengers is amazing!)
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I never claimed that Marvel stopped being political. But their overall narrative style changed. They went from being "the world outside your window" to being a superhero fantasy epic akin to DC comics.
@nestordanielmunozalva4349
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, so you finally read 616 Avengers? How is that ordeal? Is is as bad as everyone says it is, or The Avengers were just misunderstood for decades?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 I've read some Avengers already here and there. It just has the same problem as the Justice League. The prestige of the title writes checks that the stories themselves cannot possibly cash.
@nestordanielmunozalva4349
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie , what do you mean by that?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 There's a reason X-Men and Teen Titans were the premier team books at Marvel and DC respectively.
@josephbearpawАй бұрын
Yup fantastic 4 new movie , earth X
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I heard a rumor that Shalla-Bal would be Silver Surfer in the new movie, like in Earth X.
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Yup you heard correctly . Under the imdb she is confirmed to be Shalla-bal only but we know if she is indeed surfer that absolutely Earth X and it makes sense
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
Using the earth as a celestial's incubator!
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
The Eternals' turned a celestial into a giant statue, in guardians 2 , Ego was going to plant a egg in to earth and turn everyone into a part of Ego.
@user-zx9yc7sm1zАй бұрын
I'll take a wild guess and say that you really liked Eternals, Loki Season 2, and Werewolf by Night.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I liked Eternals, but didn't watch the other two.
@user-zx9yc7sm1z
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, why did you like it despite the inconsistencies with the rest of the universe? Many people say that it was too slow, but me personally, I though it was too quick and did not explain a lot of details that should have been explained.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@user-zx9yc7sm1z My expectations were low, and I was surprised they managed to capture thematically what I liked about the Eternals. Specifically Gaiman's run.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanieeternals was straight up trash lol
@stupendoushorrendous8258Ай бұрын
Never in my life have I heard anyone say Ultimates is one of the best Marvel comics. I'm pretty sure it's considered either so-bad-it's-good fun or irredeemable garbage by most people.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
Ultimates 3 is bad, but the first two are really good, and heavily influenced how comics are written and drawn today i.e. wide screen cinematic sequential storytelling.
@stupendoushorrendous8258
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Fair point on the widescreen art but nahhhhhh Mark Millar is a terrible writer and all of Ultimates sucks. Cringey edgelord shit. Certainly not good enough to be listed among Marvel's best. And I know I'm not the only one saying this, I almost never hear anyone say anything positive about the Ultimates.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@stupendoushorrendous8258 it's no more edgelord than any of the Stan Lee Jack Kirby comics of the 60s, given historical perspective of how comics were approached back then.
@stupendoushorrendous8258
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Even as someone who doesn't like Stan Lee, I have NO idea how that comparison is supposed to make sense. But you do you.
@treymykelАй бұрын
The reason why Earth-X isn't remembered is because the art isn't all that great honestly it's kind of all over the place really when people want it Marvel to do their own version of Kingdom come which by the way Kingdom is better than Earth-X don't get blown up lol. It was actually trying to tell a story using the book of Revelations unlike Earth X that really was just saying here's a potential dark future for Marvel. It didn't really influence anything for Marvel after while Kingdom come influence the world of DC Earth X didn't influence the world of Marvel that's why it's not remembered it has too many writers and it has too many people on there while Kingdom come which had Mark Waid and Alex Ross Bam Boom that's it. You know what I'm saying nothing was really remembered besides the beautiful covers that Alex Ross did because yes why you mentioned some of the stuff that happened in Earth X all of that stuff happened later on in the Marvel universe after people forgot about Kingdom after people forgot about Earth-X. Like the story wasn't influenced on anything nothing happened so when that story came out the Marvel landscape was the same nobody really was like Oh yeah Earth X it's great it's not remembered because it's it doesn't really have interesting artwork and the story really wasn't all that interesting It was just there to be our answer to Kingdom Come which that's fine but it needs to say something and honestly it really didn't say much of anything that was interesting especially when we all ready had alternate reality stories telling Marvel history better than what Earth exits trying to do. That's why Earth-X is remembered It just didn't do anything interesting that people care about It didn't change anything it's just like okay here's the story okay it's out All right great that's it most people I talk to about Earth ex they were like oh yeah those beautiful Alex Ross covers too bad the book didn't look like that At least if you had Alex Ross you probably could have had more people reading the book.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
Nah, man. Jean Paul Leon was one of the greats, and Earth X is up there with the OG run on Static as far as I'm concerned.
@Parleyposadajr2248Ай бұрын
kingdom come aint bad
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I'm glad people like it.
@monty8615
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie why do you think its bad tho?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@monty8615 I feel like Mark Waid's idea of the superhero as an institution begins and ends with the silver age, and I just don't agree with that idea.
@treymykel
Ай бұрын
I mean Kingdom Come is fondly remembered for a reason after all while Earth ex isn't so I will say Earth ex story really wasn't all that great It was okay but Kingdom Come was better it is what it is
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@treymykel With that logic, stuff like Astro City, Top 10, and Superman: Where is thy sting all suck, because nobody remembers them.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881Ай бұрын
Lol kingdom come isn't any good huh? Well I know a few far bigger KZreadrs would disagree with you
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
People are entitled to their wrong opinions.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie lol well considering they have millions of subscribers, I'd say their opinion is a little more valid and carries a little more weight
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@Alexander-Lionheart_1881 and Logan Paul is a genius of our time. Enjoy.
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You just got a new subscription here. I love earth x i read it in 2004. I was shocked to see what happened to all of the heroes especially my favorite Spider-Man.... but im glad he became a comic and got himself together. And mayday as venom was cool too. Most people didn't even finish the entire trilogy. Earth x, universe x and paradise x.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
8 күн бұрын
I haven't gotten to Universe X yet, but I'm excited to check it out. I'm also told that "Spider-Cop" comes from this series too, so that's another feather in the Earth X universe's cap.
@jamesjackson6563
8 күн бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie that's right. The real spider-cop. Officer parker. I don't like that insomniac Spider-Man ps4/ps5 joke. It's nonsense honestly. I can't recommend universe x enough. Paradise x the final part was decent. I believe the earth x saga was supposed to have more parts but unfortunately it was halted due to low sales. Once you read paradise x you'll see what I mean. There's A LOT left unfinished and unanswered. Read the spidey special for universe x absolutely amazing.
NGL, Fat Peter Parker was a reason I never wanted to read this at first.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
LOL same. But he's actually really endearing here. ITSV definitely took some cues from this.
@adamquenano8563
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie This interpretation of Peter Parker is incredible I hope it’s adapted one day, minus being fat
@franciscoOrellana29
Ай бұрын
@@adamquenano8563😂he got carried away a little chill
@jamesjackson6563
9 күн бұрын
@@adamquenano8563 I hope it's adapted with him being fat he loses the weight and becomes a cop.
Read Earth-X back in 2018 and loved it - thanks for covering this sleeper! The world deserves to know about this
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
It's baffling how low under the radar this book flies.
@borntosyn498
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Agreed. I loved Peter's character arc - seeing him so bitter and hopeless was gut wrenching upon first read lmao
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@borntosyn498 Same. I'm a sucker for stories where the protagonist gets old and has to relearn the lessons from their youth from a different perspective.
You sold me at "Mayday Parker"
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
[Slaps a copy of Earth X] This baby has so much Mayday Parker. And wait'll you see the sequels...
This comic, to me, is very weird in terms of Iron Man. He is treated as this broken and hyper-serious genius that wants to have every single detail in control from the shadows. That feels very Batman-ish and I find it jarring. I thought that mfs thing was him using his suit as a way to escape reality and eventually finding hapiness in his own skin. Maybe this is what separates this comic from Kingdom Come; while KC evokes adoration for classic DC, Earth-X deconstructs the characters completely, AND BOTH ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR DOING SO.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I'll dedicate a video to KC one day. But the thing I like about Earth X isn't that it's deconstructionist in nature. In fact, I don't see it as a deconstruction at all. If anything, it feels like "the next chapter" that we'll never see in the Marvel Universe, because American superhero comics are perpetually stuck in their "iconic status quo".
@mayotango1317
Ай бұрын
That is the real Iron Man. No the joke MCU one.
Earth X as a story i thought is interesting but as a fan of mayday parker spider-girl and peter parker story to tell you the truth this isn't really my favorite interpretation of that relationship but that's just my opinion.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I like the idea that after MJ dying, and having his identity revealed, Peter curls back into his reclusive shell, and has to relearn what it means to be Spider-Man as an adult.
@TevyaSmolka
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie I can understand that but personally for me as a huge fan of mayday parker spider-girl and Peter parker and mary jane as a family seeing them fall apart literally in that dark future is just depressing in my opinion.
I got a copy. Seems like it’s picking up popularity recently. Also, I’m curious what you meant by kingdom come being bad.
ngl sometimes I confuse Johnathan Hickman and Robert Kirkman together cause of how similar their names sound
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I still get Warren Ellis and Garth Ennis mixed up sometimes frfr.
@redherringoffshoot2341
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Istg it’s those mfs w/ similar sounding last names lol
Marvel never stopped being political, specially in the 2000s, so that desire to tackle heavy themes was present and even increased by the events at the time. So...what do you mean exactly? Some of the comics that complement Secret Invasion are horrorific, in the good sense. At the same time, Kang Dynasty is touching on that hopelesness in battling an entity with god-like powers. (Kurt Busiek's Avengers is amazing!)
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I never claimed that Marvel stopped being political. But their overall narrative style changed. They went from being "the world outside your window" to being a superhero fantasy epic akin to DC comics.
@nestordanielmunozalva4349
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, so you finally read 616 Avengers? How is that ordeal? Is is as bad as everyone says it is, or The Avengers were just misunderstood for decades?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 I've read some Avengers already here and there. It just has the same problem as the Justice League. The prestige of the title writes checks that the stories themselves cannot possibly cash.
@nestordanielmunozalva4349
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie , what do you mean by that?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@nestordanielmunozalva4349 There's a reason X-Men and Teen Titans were the premier team books at Marvel and DC respectively.
Yup fantastic 4 new movie , earth X
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I heard a rumor that Shalla-Bal would be Silver Surfer in the new movie, like in Earth X.
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Yup you heard correctly . Under the imdb she is confirmed to be Shalla-bal only but we know if she is indeed surfer that absolutely Earth X and it makes sense
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
Using the earth as a celestial's incubator!
@josephbearpaw
Ай бұрын
The Eternals' turned a celestial into a giant statue, in guardians 2 , Ego was going to plant a egg in to earth and turn everyone into a part of Ego.
I'll take a wild guess and say that you really liked Eternals, Loki Season 2, and Werewolf by Night.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I liked Eternals, but didn't watch the other two.
@user-zx9yc7sm1z
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie, why did you like it despite the inconsistencies with the rest of the universe? Many people say that it was too slow, but me personally, I though it was too quick and did not explain a lot of details that should have been explained.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@user-zx9yc7sm1z My expectations were low, and I was surprised they managed to capture thematically what I liked about the Eternals. Specifically Gaiman's run.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanieeternals was straight up trash lol
Never in my life have I heard anyone say Ultimates is one of the best Marvel comics. I'm pretty sure it's considered either so-bad-it's-good fun or irredeemable garbage by most people.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
Ultimates 3 is bad, but the first two are really good, and heavily influenced how comics are written and drawn today i.e. wide screen cinematic sequential storytelling.
@stupendoushorrendous8258
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Fair point on the widescreen art but nahhhhhh Mark Millar is a terrible writer and all of Ultimates sucks. Cringey edgelord shit. Certainly not good enough to be listed among Marvel's best. And I know I'm not the only one saying this, I almost never hear anyone say anything positive about the Ultimates.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@stupendoushorrendous8258 it's no more edgelord than any of the Stan Lee Jack Kirby comics of the 60s, given historical perspective of how comics were approached back then.
@stupendoushorrendous8258
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Even as someone who doesn't like Stan Lee, I have NO idea how that comparison is supposed to make sense. But you do you.
The reason why Earth-X isn't remembered is because the art isn't all that great honestly it's kind of all over the place really when people want it Marvel to do their own version of Kingdom come which by the way Kingdom is better than Earth-X don't get blown up lol. It was actually trying to tell a story using the book of Revelations unlike Earth X that really was just saying here's a potential dark future for Marvel. It didn't really influence anything for Marvel after while Kingdom come influence the world of DC Earth X didn't influence the world of Marvel that's why it's not remembered it has too many writers and it has too many people on there while Kingdom come which had Mark Waid and Alex Ross Bam Boom that's it. You know what I'm saying nothing was really remembered besides the beautiful covers that Alex Ross did because yes why you mentioned some of the stuff that happened in Earth X all of that stuff happened later on in the Marvel universe after people forgot about Kingdom after people forgot about Earth-X. Like the story wasn't influenced on anything nothing happened so when that story came out the Marvel landscape was the same nobody really was like Oh yeah Earth X it's great it's not remembered because it's it doesn't really have interesting artwork and the story really wasn't all that interesting It was just there to be our answer to Kingdom Come which that's fine but it needs to say something and honestly it really didn't say much of anything that was interesting especially when we all ready had alternate reality stories telling Marvel history better than what Earth exits trying to do. That's why Earth-X is remembered It just didn't do anything interesting that people care about It didn't change anything it's just like okay here's the story okay it's out All right great that's it most people I talk to about Earth ex they were like oh yeah those beautiful Alex Ross covers too bad the book didn't look like that At least if you had Alex Ross you probably could have had more people reading the book.
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
Nah, man. Jean Paul Leon was one of the greats, and Earth X is up there with the OG run on Static as far as I'm concerned.
kingdom come aint bad
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
I'm glad people like it.
@monty8615
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie why do you think its bad tho?
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@monty8615 I feel like Mark Waid's idea of the superhero as an institution begins and ends with the silver age, and I just don't agree with that idea.
@treymykel
Ай бұрын
I mean Kingdom Come is fondly remembered for a reason after all while Earth ex isn't so I will say Earth ex story really wasn't all that great It was okay but Kingdom Come was better it is what it is
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@treymykel With that logic, stuff like Astro City, Top 10, and Superman: Where is thy sting all suck, because nobody remembers them.
Lol kingdom come isn't any good huh? Well I know a few far bigger KZreadrs would disagree with you
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
People are entitled to their wrong opinions.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881
Ай бұрын
@@MysticalGreenBeanie lol well considering they have millions of subscribers, I'd say their opinion is a little more valid and carries a little more weight
@MysticalGreenBeanie
Ай бұрын
@@Alexander-Lionheart_1881 and Logan Paul is a genius of our time. Enjoy.