😵E-fliteTwin Timber Shock! RC Planes First & Last Flight on the Same Day?
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@horizonhobby
PUT IN THE COMMENTS WHAT YOU THINK CAUSED THIS!...*UPDATE: On 6/6/2023 I heard back from Horizon Hobby Customer support after having to mail them back the crashed airplane for "Inspection" I am happy to report they are sending me a NEW Twin Timber!!! Thank you Horizon Hobby!
as of 5/27/2023 I just put the elevator servo on my servo tester and it is DEAD! All other servos worked properly even after the crash...bummer! Will report to Horizon!
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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Airplane Info
01:54 Take off
02:40 Trim Flight
03:30 In-Flight
05:10 Slow flight
07:01 Danger strikes
07:13 Crash
07:42 After action review
08:20 Shes not pretty anymore
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He just said 😂 ain't nobody got time for that too funny 🤣!
.*UPDATE: as of 5/27/2023 I just put the elevator servo on my servo tester and it is DEAD! all other servos worked properly even after the crash...bummer! Will report to horizion! UPDATE: 6/9/23 Horizion is going to send me a new Twin Timber after testing and seeing the servo was in fact bad! Appreciate it 🙏 Horizion!
@tyesai
Жыл бұрын
On my Timber X I've had the rudder servo, both flap servos, an aileron, and last night the elevator servo fail. I landed every time with zero damage until the elevator servo failed last night. This over the course of 18 months. I'm not impressed...
@RaGeRC
Жыл бұрын
You can lose pretty much any other servo and still be able to land but lose that elevator and your just along for the ride at that point!
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
@@RaGeRC and that's exactly 💯 true
@JDDupuy
Жыл бұрын
Horizon Hobby cheap parts. But they charge you a high price! And they know it!
@FORDEVR
Жыл бұрын
@@JDDupuy Everything is good for me except the servos. They are poor quality. I also had a engine mount crack on my extra 300 with no crashes.
Now that hurts, I even felt the "oh wt******" Sorry about that my friend. This morning at the flying field we had one plane that just lost its ailerons, and I do mean lost them. They came off mid-flight. Those things can do what they do and that’s sucks.
It is what it is indeed my friend, have a blessed day😎🇺🇸
Part of the hobby. I would always fly my planes until they eventually crashed. Not usually on the same day as its maiden flight. I will google twin timber. Looks like a nice plane.
I know this is not much consolation but I'd rather crash then have a model fly away on me never to be seen again. Ask me how I know. :>)
Reckum Roy Knows that impact sound 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸 Sorry to see such a great plane crash. Better luck next bird.
Pretty much same result for my Twimber on 12th flight. All electronics were still functioning, but the elevator servo horn snapped. Elevator started acting weak just after takeoff, tried to make a 180 to get back over our field. Got about 120° before i ran out of airspace. Excellent flying plane until it wasn't. The differential thrust made crosswind landings a little odd. Was sad to lose mine. Thanks for sharing!
@CumbersomeDinosaur
Жыл бұрын
Interested in what caused this. The stock servo horns look pretty beefy to me on these.
Happened to me as well, lost elivator control but did have a warning something was wrong. It needed lots of up trim on that flight so I tried to land asp but did not make it back and crashed not as bad as yours. I found the elivator servo cam e unglued so I checked the rudder servo and it basicley popped out with very little pressure. Glue was stuck to servo but none on the foam at all. 7 flights on a $600.00(canadian $) plane thank you Horizon
Sorry to see anyone's model get wrecked... but that was something else! Like you say, that's the hobby. I'd rebuild it and fly the goo out of it, but I understand the desire to just walk away.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you checking us out!
For me such lock up has been once a bad soldering I made myself that got loose during flight, and twice a servo stall, that made the ESC overheat.
There is no doubt that this "TWIMBER" is an excellent Model Airplane, as is the case with virtually all E-Flite items, especially the TIMBER "series". But.... THE "SERVOS" IN GENERAL - ARE REALLY A BIG "CRAP" 🥵, WHICH IS VERY STRANGE BECAUSE THE "E-Flite" IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE BRAND IN THE MARKET. On my 1st flight with my Twin Timber two weeks ago I had a lot of difficulties with the control of the plane regarding the "Rudder" where I had to trim it constantly and finally had to make an emergency landing. I inspected it right away and... voila, the Rudder Servo WAS COOL AND THEREFORE LOOSE IN ITS FIXING!!! On Flight 2, this past weekend, more difficulties controlling the "TWIN" and again an Emergency Landing. Right Aileron SERVO JUST "BURNED"!!!! So Dear Friends, SOLUTION??? TRASH with the Original and NEW BEST QUALITY Servos!!!! Obs. - In my "DRACO" I had to do the same and for the same reasons.JUST LOOSE, COOL IN ITS PLACE!!
It made a awesome impact noise. I've heard that before 😊
@tughillrc6327
Жыл бұрын
Reckum Roys Crashs are the Best (((((((( ROCKS )))))))🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Same happened to me, picked up one of the only 2 my LHS had and had a freaky maiden (more details on RC Groups Forums) but thanfully after having it sent in, HH took care of me. Ele servos on these are posessed *shrug*
Thanks for being honest and real. As to the cause: Pilot error 😋 Cheers!
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Kevin it wasn't pilot error at all as much as you'd like it to be lol, It had a bad elevator servo and was sent into Horizon and they warranted it and sent me a new one. thanks for watching.
That's sucks. At least the gear survived as advertised
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Lol that's true!! 😃
Dude put that plane back together it's not broken that bad.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Can't bc I have to ship it to horizion for them to inspect it for the claim
@Royshanger
Жыл бұрын
@@RCPlaneReviewer Oh I see there is something wrong with electronics.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
@@Royshanger yes a bad elevator servo
@Royshanger
Жыл бұрын
@RCPlaneReviewer It was a weird crash, and you did say it wasn't working after ceash.
IT POPPPPED UP AND IT POPPPPED DOWN HA HA HA HA
That's a bummer. It happens to the best of us but it was quite entertaining. I'm sorry it was it you're expensi
@RCPlaneReviewer
Ай бұрын
Hahaha thats what its all about!! Fun! Its all repaired and flying now
had this problem on my FMS PA-18, but it did it on the maiden takeoff.. i got about 6 seconds of flight time in...
@RCPlaneReviewer
20 күн бұрын
Yeah that sucks. Makes ya not belive in the airplane after that!
Did you pull out the servos to see if one failed? I'm glad y'all show this crashing it's a part of the hobby.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
I haven't yet, I'm actually doing it now!
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
I just put the elevator servo on my servo tester and it is DEAD! all other servos worked properly even after the crash...bummer! Will report to Horizon!
Dam, brand new plane too sorry about your new twin timber man. That not supposed to happen
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man, hopefully horizion will get me back in the air!
@teamfutabaspeedfresh8339
Жыл бұрын
@@RCPlaneReviewer Ali machinchy will take care of that I met him if you see him, tell him I said hello
Freedom Model Spirit
I have put planes into snap rolls that were severe enough to dislodge a connection from the receiver; be sure to always secure the internals!
@RCPlaneReviewer
7 ай бұрын
It was a bad elevator servo. Horizon replaced the plane
Good Lord, I do still hate seeing this happen! Perhaps you’d like to do a video with our TIgerShark? You’d get to go pick it up and launch it again- much more fun! Give us a shout!
I bet your gyro came loose. My friend who is experienced had the same thing happen. He had no control and it nosed dived in.
@sxsmarine4075
Жыл бұрын
Same the entire cage on the elevator arm that holds the servo was not even glued
@snoriverrc3842
Жыл бұрын
he doesnt use the gyro, except AS3X.
You flew for 5 minutes and 16 seconds. Did your battery die? Beautiful field. Watching it saved me $400.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
No the battery was good still had 38% left. What happened was the elevator servo failed. Horizion hobby sent me a new model after asking me to send in the crashed plane for inspection..bad servos are a problem for them apparently
Let me guess the fucking servo came on glued or wasn’t glued at all. Had the same thing happened to me. check the wing servos my whole cage wasn’t even glued in. Emailed Horizon hobby got no response.
@RcNeil
Жыл бұрын
Greg “Fat guy fly rc” had the same issues too am waiting on the 2nd batch
Popcorn!
I should have checked this video. I just took mine out for a maiden today. First flight was fine, second flight, crash. ELEVATOR issue.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Contact horizion hobby let them know, test your elevator servo, box it up crashed and let them test it and they'll send you a new one
I know mine will look like that soon
Can repair that easily, people how just buy everything always crash because it took effort, u didn't glue down the components and something unplugged during a monovor
@RCPlaneReviewer
6 ай бұрын
No that wasn't it at all the elevator servo went bad during flight. Horizon sent me a replacement
“Look at the size of that impact crater!” Just gotta love Jeff’s input 😂
Works great til it doesn't 😢 Wonder if it was the momentum pulled apart the xt60 to ic3 not giving a good connection.the two holds might have been a bad connection.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
No itvwas a bad elevator servo.. I tested it after the crash
I had a motor stop working on mine and took it home and was working again but it was a very hot day and think speed controler had slipped forward
Brown out on the spektrum radio……..?
Just had my first crash with one of these. I think they’re too heavy and the tail moment is too short. There’s not enough tail leverage to recover if the throttle is pulled back. Hence differential thrust.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that bronco, you may be onto somthing!
In all honesty I've seen the twin timber in person and it didn't really wow me enough to go out and buy one. Recently I lost the elevator servo (plane was less than a year old) on a Commander 1.4 MPD. I was able to get it around and almost made it to the runway, I landed it on the gear down the hill out of sight slow and what I thought was easy but when I got to the plane the fuselage and one of the wings were both busted beyond repair. I did however buy another one to replace it as it's such a good flyer and I really enjoy it. Got lots of parts for it too! ;) Sorry for your loss and that it happened. I've had a cherokee 1.3 and an apprentice lock aileron servos and crash in similar fashion. As you have said unfortunately it's part of the hobby, a sad and slightly expensive part though :( Shake it off, grab another plane and send it!!! :)
That sucks brother but like you said it’s part of the hobby. Well it’s good to see a smile on your face even though we know how disgusted ya are. I’d be the same way oh well onward and upward. 👍👍👍✈️✈️✈️
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated 🙏
Me gusta los vídeos
@RCPlaneReviewer
11 ай бұрын
Thank you I appreciate it!!
Ouch that just hurts to watch. I have to say, I am seeing a lot of servo failures on the forums. Many right out of the box. I'd like to know how many Horizon is RMA'ing. It scares me to fly mine, and I'm thinking the aileron and elevator servos should be replaced.
@JohnDoe50047
Жыл бұрын
Horizon won't help you. They void your warranty the instant you assemble the plane. Unless you can somehow find a defect before even putting the parts together, you are completely out of luck with them.
Love the channel and keeping it real!!! I fly in south florida and never have wind under 10 mph. That sucks. You must have had some kind of failure....
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! was! I tested the servos, and the elevator servo went bad on me...all others still work
Sorry you lost your plane. I didn't watch the whole video but heard you say you lost communication with the plane. If that is the case, i would urge you to setup a failsafe on your receiver that will/can/should prevent a straight down nose dive. I noticed a SAFE decal on the wing. In case you may not be aware...you can program you receiver to switch to safe mode in case of loss of signal. It will not stop a crash but it will greatly minimize the damage by getting the plane in a wings level attitude, just sayin'. I program my receivers upon signal loss (fail safe) to do left aileron for an average turn, a little up elevator, and zero throttle.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
It was a faulty bad elevator servo.
Please to hear the Horizon stands their products!
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Me too!!! Very happy
That's what I said last night, "I don't know why I didn't pull out!"
@reckemroysrc3764
Жыл бұрын
Not even a happy ending 😅😅😅
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Mine also came with a twitchy elevator servo. Horizon is sending me a new servo. This is interesting because I’m reading about a lot of bad elevator servos… strange.
Well guess bobby keeping the single engine. Ever figure out why it lost comm.?
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Yep!! Tested all the servos all good except the elevator servo...went bad and caused the crash 😑
@puudogp1850
Жыл бұрын
@@RCPlaneReviewer Thanks for update I would put a thumbs up but seems like the wrong response LOL
Upgrade those servos.
I lost the elevator servo on my Arrows Edge 540 on about its 5th flight. I managed to land it using throttle - it was stuck almost neutral - slightly up. I replace ALL of the servos with better ones before I flew it again.
I bet Your elevator servo came unglued, on my third battery with my twin timber mine come off while I was taxing out luckily it wasn’t in flight. On horizons webpage some else also left a review saying that when he did preflight check he noticed that the elevator servo was very loosely attached. I have also had both of my flap servo come unglued as well. Definitely seems to be a problem with the glue in this plane.
I’ve gotz $5 on it! the gear setup, wheels and all, that is. Hit me up!??????
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Lol
Now that's a crap pile. To bad about the elevator servo. HH servos do fault more than expected.
@prowlus
10 ай бұрын
And yet they charge you f*** *** prices on everything
Servo failure so bad your flying was great do not let it affect your confidence ,get back in the air as soon as possible greetings from Wales .
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words and support!
That sucks man sorry for your smash. Hope horizon is positve and give u a new one. Nice video. And yes its part of the game😊
@old-rcplane-phart
Жыл бұрын
Listen at 7:12
@trondaustad8617
Жыл бұрын
@@old-rcplane-phart full speed ???
@old-rcplane-phart
Жыл бұрын
@@trondaustad8617 Sounds like reverse to me. As I have reverse thrust setup on my Twimber. Same exact sound.
@old-rcplane-phart
Жыл бұрын
May have been a setup error, who knows. Fat guy's esc wasn't calibrated. STILL, everytime I plug in a battery, I do a system check, CS check, check everything everytime.
@trondaustad8617
Жыл бұрын
@@old-rcplane-phart yes me to. But u know sometimes we f... up and crash. Part of the hobby.
Hi from the Flying Pilgrims RC Club - Michigan - Cool demo - "Like" ✈ but interesting gravity issue!
@RCPlaneReviewer
4 ай бұрын
Yep!! Tha KS for checking us out!! Bad elevator servo killed this plane! But horizon got me a new one after they made me send in the crashed parts for inspecton
This is the first time I can remember hearing a pilot say "good weight" and mean it sincerely. :D Awesome content as always. Im new to the channel and really enjoying going back to some of the older content.
@RCPlaneReviewer
14 күн бұрын
Really appreciate you checking out the content, its cool to see the progression
A "geofence"? No thanks.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
It's a joke. No such thing.
@abundantharmony
Жыл бұрын
@@RCPlaneReviewer Maaaan, I was about to say.. as soon as telemetry comes with geofences, I'm out.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
@@abundantharmony lol I know what you mean!
Go get another man and tell him hey. That one is defective. It happens to us all man. Keep your head up you gonna be alright I’ve crash my plane before a lot of times. It happens. I’ve been there.
OH MAAAAAN : (
It looks like one of the ESC's stopped working, from the way it was cork screwing back to the ground! If you find out what the problem was, let us know.
@snoriverrc3842
Жыл бұрын
I think he was attempting a flat spin
@RcNeil
Жыл бұрын
Servo died, I wasn’t surprised I heard a lot of complaints abt servos on this timber going crazy straight out the box, am waiting on the 2nd batch
@jimvalim1567
Жыл бұрын
Found another KZread video of someone doing a maiden on this plane. He had a problem with the ESC's being out of calibration. One motor would pull more than the other one. He also had a bad servo that would flutter on one of the ailerons.
@snoriverrc3842
Жыл бұрын
@@jimvalim1567 I believe it says in the manual to set the throttle trim up until the motors turn on. That will tell you if Differential is set properly. You can then trim the rudder until they match, and then physically adjust the rudder. Differential is awesome, especially on water.
possible to reglue
@RCPlaneReviewer
Ай бұрын
Total loss They replaced it after they realized the servor went bad
Unfortunately
Wery pretty
Will HH hook up a new plane seeing no doubt it was a servo failure?
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
I sure hope so considering
At first glance it seemed like you lost power and elevator. I know you found the bad servo, but how the battery?
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
The battery was fine no problems
Another option if you like the radio is to buy a ufl to sma lead and a Video Aerial Systems Diamond 2.4ghz antenna and replace the antenna with it. The way you bend your antenna, your flying right in the blind spot for the rf coming from the transmitter
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with the bad elevator servo that was tested and caused this crash lol 😆
@whiskeyhotelpapa
Жыл бұрын
If you send the receiver back for service they'll replace the Insulators that are now broke which was caused by the same thing that killed the servo....the crash, lol. Another idea, could be the bec not being enough output.... again causing brown out, 55 fades and 2 Holds or IOW Failsafe. You did have a lot of controls activated and throttle all while in a dive (higher amps ) all simultaneously when the 2 holds occurred. Two separate hold which is why it changed direction briefly before Failsafe-ing again.
@whiskeyhotelpapa
Жыл бұрын
Multiple things going on that one could lean on like all that telemetry your running and jamming up the pipeline of communication, but all comes back to poor RF performance mostly caused by the transmitter. There was a time when mfgs would brag about latency right on the box. It's pretty embarrassing now with 2.4 though. A radio master t16s with a crossfire system is a really good option too. I have both. Honestly thinking about converting everything I have to crossfire.
@whiskeyhotelpapa
Жыл бұрын
IF the servo burned out it was likely due to how stiff the elevator usually is when the planes arrive new. I'm just trying to give you a fighting chance to find the smaller problems by having good Link. I pop the controls free and check freedom of movement before maiden ..... usually, lol. I have noticed Timbers usually arrive with very stiff elevators caused by the foam in the hinge area. I spend a few mins flexing and repeatedly wiggling the elevator until it breaks in the hinge area and becomes noticeably free-er movement. ....but if you had good link ..... 😜
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
@@whiskeyhotelpapa 💯 % agree 👍 thanks for your insight!!
I have seen other of these Twin Turbo, have some problems, much like yours. Fatguy flies i believe. Was one of them.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
It's possible
Geo fence!? No kidding! I have 40 plus aircraft, that are not limited by Geo fence crap.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
That was a joke guy lol
Well, that was a quick $400 bucks!
@jimvalim1567
Жыл бұрын
At least you can salvage some of the parts! Sorry for your loss 😔.
Think something is up with Horizon, I lost my Ultra Stik 30 on maiden, went straight from around 100 ft, pulled back on the stick and nothing just like on your video . Got crickets from Horizon, bought the Ultra Stik 60 ( the yellow electric) on maiden with it i needed full aileron trim to fly trimmed and when I landed the rudder is straight with the vertical stab and ailerons at full left trim, like as if a heavy wing. Bad flying planes become hanger queens. I think I’m done with Horizon Hobby
sorry for your loss
The first video of yours I've seen. But I could tell right away that you are a fine pilot. I'm pretty sure we all agree this is equipment failure. I have this plane and the connectors are pretty tight, so I don't know what came undone, but I would think something did. Pretty hard to laugh it of. It's not an inexpensive plane.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! Yeah, I just tested the elevator servo and it's a Bad elevator servo..ugh! at least now I know why
"Part of the hobby" those words I don't want to hear anymore LOL. I was flying in 12 plus mph winds today and nosed over my timber evolution on take off, twice, needless to say, it's down for a while. Sorry about your bird, the sucky part of the hobby. 😂
The Twin Timber hasn't appealed to me. Sorry to see yours go down though. I'd much rather fly my Turbo Timber Evo. She very agile and doesn't mind the wind.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
we know its not your flying had to be electronics failure
Unboxings make me lollipop on my handgun.
Looks like you lost your fligt skills. A channel for 1st and lasts for sure
@RcNeil
Жыл бұрын
What a dumb comment 🤦🏼♂️ I know there would be at least one and that’s you no clue whatsoever abt rc planes 😂.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
I think it’s stall. Heavy Battery move back !
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
No..it was a bad elevator servo it's in the comments
@Jeffnc84
Жыл бұрын
Not a stall
WARNING! watch my MAIDEN of the E-Flite Twin Timber BEFORE you buy!/ fat guy flies/ 3 weeks ago check it out mate. Shame on HH for putting this out too fast.
Well welcome to Team Failsafe. The problem is laying in your hand. .....Sorry for your loss. Recommend buying a JR radio and aura gyro (if you want gyros) next time.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
So that would be all well in goof if the elevator servo didn't fail in mid flight. Failsafe wouldn't not have helped or done anything.
@Jeffnc84
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 people are always quick to blame the radio. You fly what you like. I’ll fly what I like.
@whiskeyhotelpapa
Жыл бұрын
55 fades /2 Holds.....
2 holds...thats no good and why i left spektrum
Probably using a Spekjunk transmitter.
Lol do you also give good crash reviews 😂😂😂jk i kno it happens to everybody who flys😂😂😂
@RCPlaneReviewer
6 күн бұрын
Lots of crash videos too lol we do it all
@leon0247
6 күн бұрын
@@RCPlaneReviewer right on brotha keep on flying 💯
Welcome to horizon hobby , our servos might fail you when you need them most $379 down the drain !!! Care to buy another horizon product ???? Lucky I ground checked my night timber x before launch . My tail and aileron servo failed same time on the ground happy I found out before take off !!!!
I was keen on this plane but not now or ever.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh kinda takes the fun out of the experience
Another e-flite suckcess story. I've never had a servo fail, but I don't use e-flite.
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
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Maybe you had hit the Panic button, it would have recovered, but "real" pilots dont like using giro,s
@RCPlaneReviewer
Жыл бұрын
Gyros don't help you when you have a bad elevator servo that stops working in Flight.