never apologize for making the complex seem simple. That's the mark of a good teacher!!!

Great video. The comparison and explanation of the two different dynometer outputs was very interesting.

Mr Weingartner, this was a great video. I learned alot. Thankyou for the thorough explanation of engine dyno correction factors. It helps to explain why some ridiculously over-corrected engine dyno #'s never translate to 1/4mile mph, nor chassis Dyno numbers. One of our famous old guys, who takes advantage of correction factors to advertise truly questionable numbers, even made a video suggesting HP lost to drive a supercharger should be added back to the total GROSS HP. It gets ridiculous

Great video! Glad you got and shared some more realistic #’s. The original dyno #’s never made sense with track ET’s.

I appreciate all the things you share with the world in your video's

Glad you explained the way a dyno works and what it actually measures. A lot of people don't understand that the only 2 things a dyno measures are the torque and RPM. The correction factor can be used to try and make all things equal or fudge the numbers. We need to be careful when reviewing dyno sheets.

Great explination of the Waer brake dyno I always wonderd how they worked.

Thank you for the explanations. I am hear to learn and this is my half hour TV show. Further I hate searching for someone that has done something I am looking to do but then they leave out all the details to know if it really is what I want planning to do.

Excellent video!! Thank you for doing this!! The only thing I didn't like was all the darn commercials that KZread put in the video there must have been 8 to 10 of them

Thanks for sharing! Crazy the difference in torque on methanol!

I appreciate a guy that don't cheat his dyno numbers with CF... I work for a guy sometimes that is strait up honest I know exactly what you're talking about. I build a very similar engine to what you have here, mine had 13.2 to1 and brodix trac 1 heads, and was 3.48 stroke and 4.125 bore, made massive tq and 500 hp at 5000 and 597hp peak. Only run it on 110 race gas.

Great video. Looking forward to the next one! Oh I don't mind if it's long or short! Always good content.

I under estimated the hp on 040 bore your sbc. Great video as always. Thanks

Great video. Don’t worry about the length. I enjoy the technical info. Real data beats internet bs any day.

That is one nice SBC. I'd be very proud to have built/designed that engine. People may like to talk smack, but it is not as easy to make that kind of power unless you pay someone who knows how to get it. Another item to note: making high horsepower & torque numbers doesn't equate to low E.T.'s. A drag race vehicle requires numerous components working in concert to make a low/quick E.T. That is one healthy SBC. With the right trans, rear gear & converter it would be an amazingly fun street/strip engine. Thanks for sharing. Terry

Thanks for the video. I guessed 10 hp high on gas, and about 20 ft lbs of torque. I was thinking about 1.35 ft lbs per cid, you were at 1.3. With those heads, I would imagine a cam adjustment could get you to 1.4 ft lbs per cube. Nice engine.

Nice running small block you have there Eric!

I have the MSD digital 6 plus ignition box. I have my rev limiter set to 7800 because it actually kicks in closer to 7300-7400. With the new engine we are going to switch to the MSD Grid.

Very informative video thanks for taking the time to do it

Very informative 👍 If there was a correction for compression available, a curve showing the potential for the methanol would be interesting. As it was your video is great

Subbed, good info. Laying the knowledge down!

There is nothing basic about trying to explain how air works. Something that 99% of the time is invisible requires logical imagination. Well done on the explanation on correction factors. The best take away is stick with the same dyno, and compare testing to past readings from only that dyno.

Pump E85 can be *up to* 85% ethanol, but is not guaranteed to be that high. Boosted engines really like E85 and methanol, because of their ability to remove heat from the charge air through vaporization, single 75mm LS turbo applications can see 100+ hp gains, easily, going from 93 pump premium, to E85, and more with meth, for exactly the same reason, more timing. You can usually turn up the boost, too. With dedicated methanol fuel systems, no imtercooler is needed, the fuel does all that.

Appreciate the video and info!

Great video Eric. A little off topic, I noticed on your engine that you have a re-routed cooling system. We used to plumb them like you have when I built circle track engines back in the 90s. Any chance you could do a video about this subject alone with some data??

On your ignition box it's not a rev limiter you are hitting it is a misfire caused by lack of spark energy ..... Because it's programmable it could be phasing on the rotor eating the energy it showed up more on methanol because it's harder to light ... To late to test now but gap the plugs down could help .... But once back in the truck check phasing

That's a very nice running 350

The largest difference I`ve seen between real time numbers and corrected nunbers down here in Florida is at best 3% usually less using the STP J-607 corrected power algorithm, there`s like 4 different ones. Those dynos can be made to say anything the operator wants, those numbers are called "advertised" numbers and look very much like your first dyno sheet from the Gaines Grinding people, I consider those advertised numbers only good for bench racing. Accurate information is paramount.

Thanks for sharing! This is awesome

That motor digs in and carries it up through the rpm range! It really loves the methanol though.

That's a good running small block.. 👌

Great video

How can I find out if I'll have enough Piston to valve clearance before I order a cam, mill the head, thinner head gasket, or different pistons? Can I check my numbers with the stock setup and calculate it? Do I have to factor in the angle of the valve to the deck surface? Id like to build a high compression 5.3 but I'm afraid that I won't be able to run the correct cam after making everything closer together.

Great video! I wanted to see the Dyno comparison between methanol and e85. Thanks

@danielsullivan9865

Жыл бұрын

Now we need to repeat those Dyno test with turbos. I just returned from SEMA was there with Comp turbos.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

This engines is going to be on turbos next.

Hey bud I got a set of AFR 195CC heads renegade cnc, the springs that come with them are to wear and was wondering if the afr-8000 springs will work I believe they're white stripe solid roller, my springs are 1.270 od, white stripped are 1.550 od

Great video Eric thanks for sharing. I am glad the E85 carb was close enough to at lest get your testing done. I am guessing all the work I put in it to get decent economy on my 400 did not work well for the 355.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't bad. There is just a spot it needs more fuel down low. It wouldn't change street driving though.

@newtonfirefly3584

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing This is a very good video with some very good base of information which most are unaware of about fuels and these measurements. Eric am glad You used a 'race' E-85 which is commonly called C-85,[correct ?] which is 85 % ethanol - not like the E-85 at the fuel stations which can be 40% ethanol often in the winter months up to 55-65% ethanol. Do You have access to 100%Ethanol or the racing ethanol which is used in IndyNTT - they had switch to ethanol from methanol since 2007. NASCAR use the racing E-85 or C-85 for their events. It would be interesting for You to perform the same measurements with using racing E-100 . the measurement may be much closer to methanol also. Also, as most re not aware, that both methanol and ethanol have far less carbon in the molecules, and fuel thus far less carbon in the burning resulting in far less carbon deposits, build up on the spark plugs, inside the cylinders, heads, combustion chambers, on the valves, exhaust ports and pipes. =>Thus, the benefits are beyond just the simple measured power improvements too. The combustion result in maintaining cleaner engines components and more consistent performance during longer operation and longer use. -> common 'gasoline' has many higher order hydrocarbon molecules which have much higher carbon content, but nigh higher level power from combustion. -> also similarly another common misconception is using race fuels with high octane via tetra ethyl lead, as with C100-16. the higher amount of carbon is worse with the tetra-ethyl lead. The purpose of higher octane is to slow the burning, as require with higher compression, It does not provide more power nor good for lower compression nor with induction, air compression using turbochargers or superchargers. -> as we know the addition of NO2, nitrous-oxide into the fuel increases the resultant power from combustion, and burns very rapidly, thus must be controlled properly since can burn so rapidly it nearly explodes. -> would be interested to see if You or someone can perform Hydrogen injection and measure the power increases from combustion -? since Hydrogen combustion [H2 + O2 + heat] is the most essential power with the hydrocarbon molecules. All The Best Sincerely

@grendel.6.531

7 ай бұрын

@@newtonfirefly3584wow, I just learned some things reading your post. I think you just touched on things that every hot rodder should know or at least try to understand. I’m thinking that 90% of the engine people I know really don’t understand octane/compression relations and how to utilize them together to get a viable outcome. If you know where I can get more information/videos that go into this more in-depth, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks again! Tony

@newtonfirefly3584

6 ай бұрын

@@grendel.6.531 Your comment is a rare, positive awareness; also much appreciated. Am not able to properly asses, evaluate the actual portion of individuals which lack these basics. However, from the many videos, channels which are certainly limited, a large portion of them are clearly lacking, unaware, confused along with basic distorted ideas, concepts, information about fuel, compression, ignition, along with lubrication, proper-optimum operating temperature, air flow for the engine along with aerodynamics, traction, mechanical structures, forces, electrical, electronics, full use of a computer including ECU-ECM-PCM, TCM. The few which has some various correct basics are immediately apparent, obvious as those which lack. Thus, all proper, professional racing teams have necessary experts including engineers for proper design, development, racing, results, All The Best, Sincerely

How long ago was the original Dyno run ? It used old J607 correction not the current J1349 these are set by SAE to help make sure the HP reads the same from Dyno to Dyno .... The major difference is temperature

Awesome content thanks

Direct port methanol injection 60/40 mix with a flex fuel E85 would be a very versatile setup for serious tuners. Could add more timing and boost on the fly just by turning on methanol and filling the tank up with some ethanol

Very good information 👌

Maybe I missed it in the video but did you ever change the heat range of the plug going from gas to methanol/e85?

Man, they sound so good when they hit that 7000 rpms!

What electronic fuel pump for the methanol pull would you use for the gph rate needed. From what I understand it would need around 110gph on methanol at what ever psi your carb is set at ?

@WeingartnerRacing

5 ай бұрын

I use magnafuel pro star 500. It never hurts to have much pump.

What does the car weigh and what’s the best ET/mph

So that's the 355 and it made right at 650 hp very impressive that's only 10 hp less then my big block and it's 439 cubic inches wow good going.

Well..... Two things. During this video. I could not make out any numbers on the sheets. So I really could not follow along with seeing the results. But its fine. I got the idea. Still good to watch. So thanks. The other thing was. I must have been drinking when I made my power guesses. I clearly didnt pay enough attention to the combo or I would have guess'd much higher than i did. Oh well. Thats life. Anyway. Thank you. Good watch as usual.

Can you dyno this on enougher happy dyno because.. people.dont understand strict dynos and why there better

Not mentioned is the manipulation done to many dynos to make their engines look like they make more power than the competition. I've had a couple of BIG name USA engines, one in particular was a 704" that was claimed to make 1550 HP, it made 1308 HP on our dyno.

Enjoy your very informative videos, from an old bloke down under

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Did you change plug heat ranges and why leave timing high on methanol? Mine made peak w/32 on methanol vs 36/38 gas. Great video.

@anthonyking4387

Жыл бұрын

What cubes & compression do you have?

Hey Eric, does that methanol carb have replaceable air jets? Thinking upping air bleed size another .002-003" might help tailor that A/F curve to leave it fat in the middle, but lean it a bit up top... ...but if you're not Superman, I'm not even the Green Lantern (and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn in the last month) - so I don't feel comfortable recommending you hack a non-replaceable bleed. (but, if it's a removable piece... cheap/easy to try) Hope you're recovering well from the doctor stuff!

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

I really don’t want to change much on it since it was really meant for the blow thru new motor.

@billythebake

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing yeah, I get that - you'd just end up changing it right back...

sounds awesome

Hey Eric are 806LS heads worth picking up? Haven't really heard much about 806 LS heads or how good they are.

@timothybayliss6680

Жыл бұрын

806 heads are from early 5.7l Camaro firebird. They are supposed to be the worst ls head. They also use perimeter valve covers, different from 706/862/243/799/317. I wouldn't bother with them.

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

No. Get a set of used LS3 or boy a better aftermarket head. Why mess with junk?

Meth and 38°. Sooner ignition with a slower burning fuel. Makes sense that it makes the power greater.

For this combo is it normal to see torque below 500 ?

I just want to know what kind of oil pump and what are the bearing clearances, lol. That engine is getting up there in rpm.

I would get with Mark on the methanol carb set up. I bet he can tweak the emulsion to give you the best of both worlds, rich down low and leaner up top

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

It’s made for blow thru so I didn’t expect it to be perfect. It still did good

Ethanol and Methanol have different stochiometric air/fuel ratios, I'm not sure how this ratio changes with E85, but do you think this would change the power numbers using the Methanol carburetor to feed E85? Or did you rejet for that?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

I used three different carbs. Each for there own fuel.

@goodmanboattransport3441

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing Thanks for this interesting comparison of fuels,

I enjoyed your explanation of a dyno, but I wanted to hear the hp difference between these 3 fuels! ( that's what the title was? ) I got gas and meth, but no numbers on e85?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

It’s in the video graphs and all. Watch it all the way.

Very nice motor bud

I'd be curious about the down low rpms is it worth me converting to e85 for my street rod

@harrypeterson9287

2 ай бұрын

True E85 will make a little better power at all RPM. Sadly, E85 doesn't really mean 85% ethanol, it can be various ratios of ethanol to hydrocarbons. I'd stray away from it for carbureted engines.

Great video Eric could you please post how much time Each fuel took to get to your highest rpm. Say from 3400 to 8600?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

The dyno limits the acceleration to 600rpm/second so they were close to the same.

@e85performance

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing Thank you I couldn’t think of the term accelerated rate

I was wondering when you would finally do a comparison of the three fuels

@blackwidowpowersports6037

Жыл бұрын

My favorite is methanol it makes so much torque

When he turns the dyno cell fan on you hear pretty significant air leaks in the control room. I wonder if the cell is actually under a bit of depression (vacuum) due to insufficient supply air, which would steal some numbers from the engine output.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

No there is a certain amount of air circulation that you have. He has plenty. The doors are just not perfectly sealed.

Paperwork is like reading Chinese cannot see or read Chinese am I doing something wrong or can you think of a better way for us to see it ? Thank you.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

You are doing something wrong.

Great video! I really wish methanol wasn’t such a pita to use. I love the torque numbers it produces.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The maintenance sucks

@Dr_Xyzt

Жыл бұрын

What are 3 problems you've had with methanol, and how long did it take for them to happen? -- I'm focusing on stopping corrosion. -- I'm not going to do anything about getting methanol in the oil, because I'm focused on running a 0.95-1.05 lambda 6.0-6.5:1 Air fuel ratio. I'm on the renewable energy side of things. We want to use methanol to replace gas on boats, because if the boat sinks, the methanol is safer than diesel and better than batteries.

@paullatham3411

Жыл бұрын

@@Dr_Xyzt Only three? Here are three immediate problems you'll need to consider. First is storage, you'll burn about 4 times the amount of methanol so storage and weight and cost need to be considered. Second, methanol is hygroscopic so keeping the fuel "dry" is an issue. Third, methanol is very flammable and is hard to see when it ignites. This is one main reasons why boats like diesel fuel as it is much harder to ignite. There are other issues of course but cost, weight, and safety I believe would make methanol a bad choice for everyday marine use. It's an interesting idea from your perspective though.

@Dr_Xyzt

Жыл бұрын

@@paullatham3411 I see what you're getting at. The racer guys run a low air fuel ratio. 4.2-5.7:1, which is where the quadruple consumption comes from. -- I'm focused on emissions compliant stuff, so near-stoichiometric is a requirement. -- I'm committed to safety. Have you had any leaks where a flexible hose connects to a solid one? Have you developed leaks on vehicle tank caps or had the caps seize with corrosion? -- Did corrosion fill any of your vehicle tanks with particles? -- Has your fuel been stored for a period longer than 3 months? -- Has the vehicle sat for a period longer than 2 weeks and experienced an issue?

@paullatham3411

Жыл бұрын

@@Dr_Xyzt Ok, here are some thoughts I have about this project. Us racers run about 3.8 to 4.2 a/f. At 5.7 my engine runs too hot so the extra fuel keeps temps down. (Something about 25psi of boost may have something to do with that😎) Stoich on a gas engine is 14.7 a/f and Stoich on methanol is 6.5 a/f so you’re going to need about 2.5 times storage to achieve the same time/distance calculation. And you’ll need to use appropriately sized lines to ensure adequate fuel flow. Storage: stainless steel and anodized aluminum is your friend and I use an aluminum fuel tank anodized inside and out. I use ptfe hose for my flexible lines. Also use A/N fittings so you don’t need o-rings wherever possible. If you need to use a o-ring make sure it’s viton. Storage tips: keep the tanks as full as you can. Air (water vapor) is the enemy. Make sure the tanks are air tight and sealed. I’ve stored 55 gallon drums in my garage for 6 months or so with the drums sitting on 2x4 blocks. My garage is insulated but not conditioned and I have had no problems. You have to provide tank ventilation when the engine is running but I have a ball valve on my vent line that seals everything up when I’m finished for the day. (Be sure to open the valve when the engine is running or you’ll collapse the tank. Don’t ask me how I know) As an aside I don’t know what emissions system you’ll need to address as methanol is not a hydrocarbon. As always YMMV. Cheers!

What is the rod vs stroke ratio of the motor

e85 also depends on what the ethanol is made from, sugar syrup is around 107 octane vs corn which is 116 average

@timothybayliss6680

Жыл бұрын

You gotta source for this? Ethanol is ethanol, even the isomer is the same.

@ezmny1387

Жыл бұрын

@@timothybayliss6680yeah I thought the same thing as the chemical compound is the same, pump is all made from sugar and the race stuff is corn, pump is 107 and race is 116, all I can refer to is every time I see race ethanol its always boasted as being "made from corn" not sugar so unless they are using mtbe or something along those lines or very high octane unleaded that's all I can refer to.

@tadwiltman4875

Жыл бұрын

@@ezmny1387 another thing you MAY be seeing. The gasoline portion of pump e85 is made with cheapest available fuel stock. The gas portion of race e85 is unleaded race fuel, which may account for most of the increase in octane rating

@bradmcgrath358

Жыл бұрын

octane doesn't make power unless you were knock limited and the higher octane let you optimize the timing. but in this case he wasn't knock limited on any of the three fuels. I'd be more interested in the calorific value of sugar vs corn E85.

@Dr_Xyzt

Жыл бұрын

@@bradmcgrath358 Sugar vs corn E85 probably has a lot to do with the fermentation process. Sugar is pure sucrose. Corn has other things in it, and likely requires a few modifications to the formation process.

Right on

I'm kind of wondering how the comparisons would have turned out if the best doable compression ratio was used for each fuel... I've read that in the case of methanol, the compression ratio can be up around 20:1 or higher!

@zackbennett2650

Жыл бұрын

M Mmmmmn

Have you tried a 4 hear range plug and over 40 deg of timing for meth? Thx

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

No

Sweet results. You're in-line with data I have sitting around. Methanol should be a minimum of 7% more power than any other fuel, just as a baseline. -- A compression optimized setup can be as high as 13% better. About 14:1 compression. (I like 13:1 currently) -- I think methanol is capable of inflating your V.E. values, and it's the only way I can justify the huge power some people get from methanol. The total temperature change offered by methanol is as high as 348F (190C) at 6.3:1 AFR, which implies an air density factor of 1.8. If we can just get HALF of that cooling to happen, there's a 25% power gain. That implies that the fuel is converted to gas phase though, which reduces the total density. -- Another thing I'm considering with methanol is the Ledenfrost effect. An engine with raised ports and a 190 thermostat will have everything above Methanol's boiling point, so the fuel will Ledenfrost off whatever it touches. Ideally, a thin piston height like 1.165".

@lukk4273

Жыл бұрын

P5pppppp

It doesn’t look like that dyno cell has changed since 1999 😂

@faststang85

Жыл бұрын

Yeah old crt tv, windows xp etc lol

@Comet-hn3gm

Жыл бұрын

I liked 99 better than now.

@michax175

Жыл бұрын

If it aint broken dont fix it.

@indyrock8148

Жыл бұрын

In circa 2005 they added a 15" flat screen monitor

@RonniePTexan

Жыл бұрын

I remember doing some dyno runs in 1992 that looked exactly like this. Other than the monitor of course.

I was way off on the horsepower but I missed gas torque by 5 ftlbs, methanol by 9ftlbs and e85 by 6 ftlbs. Small victories I guess.

The biggest benefit of E85, but especially Methanol ever more so, is not just that in a gas engine it can make more power - but the fact that running Meth allows you to crank your compression way up and advance the timing way more than you can on gas; and THAT is when you start seeing power numbers separated by hundreds. So, yes, on the same exact engine, gas may make 500, meth may make 520; but on gas, you may have the highest compression and spark advance you can, and 500 is all she got. Take that engine, shave the heads, swap the pistons, advance the ignition, and now you can't use gas - but you can use methanol, and you're making 700hp instead of 520.

Will 116 octane gas with optimized timing make the same power as E85?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

Not on this combo unless maybe q16

Eric check Steve Morris tech vids great one on his dyno. Thanks for video

Curious about what the cranking cylinder pressure was?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

220

@bradleymorris8875

Жыл бұрын

Needs ….. 😂

How are you getting away with running 11.9:1 and pump gas at that horsepower level?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

Timing curve at lower rpm.

Sweet

If I ever win the lottery I am buying Eric a dyno

I don't mind tech talk . That's why I watch . To learn as much as possible. What sticks anyway. Lol 😂

To me Eric sounds just like : Steve Morris / Would Lpve to see these guys together , one time .

It would been nice if you could have had time to change ignition timing we ran 40 to 44 degrees on methanol

@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions

Жыл бұрын

Definitely, plus, domes tend to need more timing than flat tops.

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it would have done anything but hurt it. The two degree made almost no difference

Any motor making 1.4 tq per ci is a very strong motor

Its a really nice 358 no doubt One of most important things I look at is how much fuel the engine used, you can calculate how much horsepower engine makes from the amount of fuel used

@trxtech3010

Жыл бұрын

Uh what? How the hell is that ? My 1990 bronco 5.0 would suck down a quart of Gasoline in 10 seconds that mean it makes 500 HP?

@dougcrosby6994

Жыл бұрын

Theoretically yes.... if the air/fuel ratio is perfect. Where the bsfc really comes in - is when someone is trying to claim HP numbers that don't match anywhere close to the amount of fuel used. It's just another data point to take into consideration. I'm not worrying about questioning Eric's dyno results.

Engine sounds like it's surging a lot on acceleration on the dyno.

No, I've often wondered about that! I assumed the dyno cell was climate controlled, just didn't know about the altitude!!

What kind of gasoline was the " pump gas " ?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

91

@big3fan916

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing Thank you for the reply , you are not concerned about detonation at 11.9 - 1 with 91 ?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

@@big3fan916 nope raced it that way and ran on the street that way for two years. I can alter the timing curve with a lab top so where it would be pinging it has less timing.

@big3fan916

Жыл бұрын

@@WeingartnerRacing lol incompatible with my analog 6AL box

Damn son.. that sounded really strange after changing the trigger.

Uncorrected HP numbers vs atmospheric conditions and corrections at any race track or dyno make perfect sense. Adding HP numbers from internal inertial weight is garbage. It is the same as folks wanting to add supercharger parasitic drive loss back to the total.

@kylemilligan752

Жыл бұрын

They keep adding bs HP numbers that will never be seen as NET HP numbers on the track.

Curious what LSA on that cam?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

108

What octane was the gas you used?

@WeingartnerRacing

Жыл бұрын

91

10 4, sorry I didn't see it. Thanks

Only dyno numbers that matter are raw numbers. Correction factors can be manipulated to read whatever the operator wants...Raw numbers can't be argued as easily....

Better yet a tunnel ram

You should give the pump E85 a try, it's great stuff. No need to spend 12 bucks a gallon on "race" e85

@taylorsrus9543

Жыл бұрын

In fuel injection its fine but with a carb you will have a harder time because of the varying ethanol content.

@Ragnarok1979

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorsrus9543 not true. My 14.6:1 565 big block runs on E85 just fine. The pumps in my area are 82-87% year round

@taylorsrus9543

Жыл бұрын

@@Ragnarok1979 Well not everyone is in your area. Pump E85 can legally go down to 53%. and I would guess your 87% to be a faulty test. Also, not everyone has a mild setup like yours. Glad it's working out for you.

@Ragnarok1979

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorsrus9543 you guess wrong. I know people who have tested pump E85 as high as 90%. I don't know where you're getting mild from, but E85 can handle high compression and/or high boost. The only thing special about "race" e85 is the sticker on the pail

@taylorsrus9543

Жыл бұрын

@@Ragnarok1979 If that was an accurate test, then whatever that fuel was is out of spec as it does not meet the standards of E85 which is 51% to 83%. Mild is based on your dyno video, but maybe that was your break-in run or baseline. Either way, enjoy.

I wish when we click on a video that says Gas vs E85 Vs Methanol, that we could get straight talk???? Instead of spread sheets we can't read, just tell us the HP differences between theses fuels? Sorry if i'm missing something?

@WeingartnerRacing

4 ай бұрын

The dyno sheets are in the video showing the difference. It’s closer to the end. Most people never make it to the end of the video. I also say out loud the numbers and differences at that point. Got make it all the way through not first 30seconds.

that dyno is harsh in a good way..

Put a dominator on it for 30 ft lbs and 30 HP . 🤣 It worked for me