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@thecolllectors5659

28 күн бұрын

please do an Attack on Titan Episode

@michalandrejmolnar3715

26 күн бұрын

It's a very modern book with rich themes and motifs, but also it's a sign of better Hollywood with actual human superheroes and the possible danger they would pose to humanity.

@di3486

26 күн бұрын

Missed opportunity to bring the richness of Dune beyond spectacle.

@tommyboman7735

25 күн бұрын

I think Dune 2 is a much worse movie than Raise of Skywalker and slightly worse than TV's Shehulk. Why? Because nothing is explained, the villains are the worst of all time, and the story is hilariously bad. Only such a simple question as to why these people live in a desert and cannot find water is beyond dumb. They have colonised the entire galaxy, I am sure they can find a few oceans to move over. Or they will have machines able to create water. Or they could simply switch planet. And that is only one question out of 10,000.

@di3486

25 күн бұрын

@@tommyboman7735 The story is very deep and complex but the movie did a poor job script wise. Looks more like a theater play with take jumps to the main developments without a cohesive story line. The director tried so hard to scream the message to the audience that he failed miserably at actually transmitting that message.

A detail of the film I thought was scary was in the end, the Freman don’t even collect the bodies for water anymore, they just burn them. That’s how much they blindly believe water will soon be coming to the planet. Edit: I'd like to add from what some people have said in the comments. Yes, I know that it’s supposed to mirror the beginning of the film how the Harkonnens were burning the Atreides bodies, and now under Paul’s ruling, the Freman are burning the Harkonnen bodies. There’s also the perspective that Harkonnen water is basically only good for stillsuits compared to drinking it. But additionally, the Freman didn't even think to feed the bodies to the worms either. They won't even offer the bodies to their god. Goes to show how far they've strayed by following Paul.

@FilmSpeak

28 күн бұрын

That's such a great point. Really shows how the cult of Paul has completely consumed them.

@Usernumber777

28 күн бұрын

It heavy because muad’dip would always go the fremen way

@lcps6805

28 күн бұрын

Wow I didn't even notice that! Great catch

@cxmxqx

28 күн бұрын

nice catch bro, i didn’t notice that

@dynomitejones

28 күн бұрын

It’s also like- they have become what they hated

I will never understand how people weren’t gripped right away from Dune

@pieceofadrian

27 күн бұрын

Like my experience and the video...For people who haven't read the book it's a slow burner experience. The lore and source material is great but the movie doesn't force this on us by having to explain everything but invites us in. The 1984 didn't give it justice so people coming into to the new movies brought in a weird pre taste. The recent movies let us unravel the greatness of the Dune epic..

@ralph90009

27 күн бұрын

I'm a huge fan of the original books, and Part 1 was… ok. There's a ton of setup (even with all they cut out) and most of the payoff is in Part 2. There really isn't a way to fit all of it coherently into one movie, the fact that Villeneuve managed to make it even recognizable - let alone magnificent as it was - in two movies is still amazing.

@eileensnow6153

27 күн бұрын

My boyfriend and I got in a fight over spoilers 😂 neither one of us had read the books and yet we were instantly compelled to

@doubllechief6926

27 күн бұрын

I think it’s a case of people who like setup and people who don’t. I personally do, so I was 100% down for Part 1, it was my favourite movie of 2021. But I think there’s people who just need the traditional setup and payoff in the same film. I knew what I was getting into, 1 book chopped into 2 movies, so I knew the story would feel incomplete after the first…

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

Because it's an empty shell with no substance, with no concepts of the book explained, with characters deprived of meaning and interest, because it has NOTHING apart from fancy sound and visual effects!

I love how "lead them to paradise" parallels "give them hell". They mean the same thing, but carry very different meaning at the same time. Genius.

@VictorIV0310

26 күн бұрын

Could also be interpreted as “Kill them all”. Just like dear old grandpa, it seems.

Just a quick note, Paul didn't abandon the name Usal. It's referred to as his secret name, so I imagine he wouldn't use it when addressing the Imperium. In fact, it might even be considered disrespectful to the Freman if he DID use it publicly.

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

he calls himself ‘Paul Muad’Did Atreides” at the Fremen war council, though. maybe he didn’t technically give up the name ‘Usul,’ but I think the video’s general interpretation is correct.

@TechQuest

24 күн бұрын

@@Sam_T2000 Usul is his name in Sietch Tabr, not even other Fremen know this name. His public name is "Muad'Dib", it is said in the movie but it's a lot clearer in the books.

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

@@TechQuest - I thought it was even more exclusive than that, like only his fellow Fedaykin know his secret name, as a form of camaraderie? early in the movie he puts away his Atreides ring, and then puts it back on once he finds the atomics and shows it off at the war council, embracing his personal desires over the Fremen, you know?

@archmaester6594

23 күн бұрын

Usul is his war name. Kind of like the pseudonym or call sign of modern soldiers. (In Top Gun, "Maverick" is the callsign of Tom Cruise's character) Muad'dib is his Fremen name. In the books, he had a vision of people worshipping him and calling him 'Muad'dib' so to avoid that future he choose to name himself after a harmless mouse... which happened to be also called Muad'dib

@laurenherrmann_videos

23 күн бұрын

​@@Sam_T2000yes, I think the ring symbolizes this moreso than the names, though including his original last name is also significant. I don't think he does that at any other point in the movie. Even in the scene with the fighters, Stilgard uses his first name Paul when addressing him by both of his new names, but not his original last name, if I remember correctly.

4:35 Watching dune is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

@divyeshkotthakota7035

27 күн бұрын

nice reference to a quote from the book haha

@johslekven7152

27 күн бұрын

It's also in part 1

@8301TheJMan

27 күн бұрын

you have to move with the process

@di3486

26 күн бұрын

*reading*

@SteveBoyer10

19 күн бұрын

You must flow with the process.

From “feeling nothing” to having his life changed. Griffins dune character arc is complete! 😁 😅

@FilmSpeak

28 күн бұрын

You could say that 🥹

@Tommy1977777

26 күн бұрын

The Sleeper has Awakened.

“Here lies a toppled god, his fall was not a small one. We did but build his pedestal, a narrow and a tall one.” - Dune Messiah

Taking the "Paul as villain" analysis too far by ignoring that Paul's extreme prescience is part of the diegetic reality of Dune. Paul is not perfect, nor omniscient, but he _is_ profoundly prescient and his visions, especially after drinking the Water of Life, are not delusions. They don't always come true because he sees the landscape of possible futures, not _the_ singular future. Something more akin to quantum probabilities. While it is true that he becomes a villain from the perspective of billions of people across the galactic empire, he does so because he is choosing (or at least attempting to choose) the "least evil" path for the greatest part of humanity. Paul's prescience confronts him with the _trolley problem,_ but on an unimaginable scale. He certainly possess human weaknesses and the bias of his upbringing as royalty to believe himself, possessed of an innate right to lead, to rule. This is not in and of itself evil, especially if the sees his role as that of steward. There is an arrogance to it, of course. But if you were taught from birth that it was your natural place to rule, you'd be hard pressed not to believe it. Further more, once power comes to you, it is nearly impossible to relinquish, however much you may wish to. You may abdicate, but having given up your power, those who fill the vacuum will always see you as a potential threat. You will never be safe. Few consider this _trap_ that royalty are born into, not of their own choosing. Because the books let us see Paul's thoughts, we know him to be far more selfless than most people. We cannot know for sure whether his choice of the "least evil" path is, indeed, the least evil, because while his prescience is real, it is not omniscient or absolute. His motive may not be absolutely pure, but they are cleaner than most. In this way Herbert succeeds to well: he gave us a hero, a dictator, that we would easily root for, "for all the right reason". Thus Herbert undermines his own intended _warning_ about charismatic leaders and fanatical loyalty. Even _Dune Messiah_ and subsequent boos fail to wholly repair this flawed, nearly contradictory, message.

@KrissAstronomist

27 күн бұрын

A great comment!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@ryanhampson673

27 күн бұрын

It’s more Paul starts a movement that quickly goes out of control and he can’t stop it. A charismatic leader riles up a population to the point its beyond that leaders control. The people won’t listen to the leader anymore because they believe that much.

@GreylanderTV

27 күн бұрын

@@ryanhampson673 Yes, but because of Paul's prescience he knows this is going to happen ahead of time, so he has a degree of responsibility for it. The prescience complicates every moral question about Paul's actions. On the one hand he foresees the prices of his revenge, but on the other hand he sees deep time and that the jihad is ultimately a lesser evil for humanity as a whole.

@derangedberger

27 күн бұрын

Agreed, it also gets even more convoluted by the time of God-Emperor, with Leto II stating that humanity would have been extinct if not for the golden path. Now we've gone from "Paul radicalizes a population into genocidal war because he has no choice but to become their leader" to "Paul literally saved the human race, albeit at the cost of untold human suffering"

@Unlike__

27 күн бұрын

Im pretty sure Paul specifically chooses the path that awards him revenge though. I think he sees multiple futures where he survives but simply dies on arrakis without a holy war, he just ignores them. Later on, though, he does set his sights on the golden path.

What I adore about Paul’s arc is that it’s similar to what i used to love Eren Jaeger for. He does these horrible things yes, because he is corrupted but he genuinely chose THE best option to save all of humanity and the fremen. In so many futures the enemies win, the Harkonnens exhibit evil dominance over the galaxy, the emperor murdering the Fremen, the entire universe failing etc. he does all of the awful things you said he does in the movie but at the same time, he quite literally has no other choice. That complexity of knowing what you do is awful but it’s somehow still the most beneficial choice for all is such an interesting and complex conflict and I love how many ways you can look at it and the effects that pressure must have on a young man

If Dune Messiah sticks the landing, then I believe this trilogy will age very nicely.

@tim_is_random

28 күн бұрын

And then Villenueve will move on, and the rights holders will make subpar sequels, prequels, and spinoffs with lesser directors…

@worlddd7777

28 күн бұрын

People wont like Messiah, there is no redemption for Paul

@tim_is_random

28 күн бұрын

@@worlddd7777 You can't trust people. People like Coldplay and voted for the nazis.

@gerdaleta

27 күн бұрын

​@@worlddd7777😮 so you didn't read God emperor😮 his son is his redemption😮 without the golden path humanity is extinct😮

@worlddd7777

27 күн бұрын

@@gerdaletaYes i did. His son is, maybe, redemption but at a cost of many many lives. And again, people who didnt read will only see Pauls tragic fate in Messiah and even worse in book 3.

I already feel like Part 2 is the epic movie of my 20s that’ll be discussed years from now like a lord of the rings or og Star Wars trilogy. It not only had different friends of mine coming together to talk about it repeatedly after multiple viewings, it also has people picking up the books again. Messiah was sold out at a few spots near me! My friends and I are reading the series now and passing the books around. Truly a movie that hits and will be remembered!

@KymHammond

27 күн бұрын

I read Dune in my late teens just before travelling. It was a formidable story that in a way helped shape how we made sense of the Middle East and Northern Africa as the world of that time came to grips with oil nations asserting their sovereignty across global politics. The story is still timely post Arab Spring, Afghanistan, Syria and now Palestine. Or even the rise of the political right across the West and how religion is now playing into that as a unifying force of supposed moral good.Slowly dropping the pretence of democracy for military might and increasing authoritarianism global politics in different quarters appears to be trying to similarly make Gods out of our leaders and our beliefs of them as such. Dune will stay with you that’s for sure.

@gilgamesh8334

23 күн бұрын

Lmao don’t be ridiculous, the movie is so much style over substance and completely misses the point of the key themes

@scatterbrainedreviews

23 күн бұрын

@@gilgamesh8334 definitely don’t see it that way. But hey to each his own 😁

@KymHammond

22 күн бұрын

@@gilgamesh8334 it’s operatic which requires the audience to know the story. To convey this story the sets need to be big - and bigger than Star Wars, which is really a western, not sifi.

@kixirFGC

21 күн бұрын

There’s is no way you think dune will have the same impact lotr and Star Wars will have…. Paul is the only character anyone cares about 🤣

I’ve seen Dune 2 five times now (3 on IMAX, including the legendary 70mm format), and it truly has become a God-tier film for me. The adaptations by Villeneuve have been masterful in balancing faithfulness to the novel while forging a path of their own (on top of being palatable to general audiences and not insulting discerning viewers’ intelligence). I’m fully in board the Denis Al Gaib train, as I’m confident he will be able to adapt Dune: Messiah in a similar vein as the first book.

@ToRo909r

25 күн бұрын

You got me beat. I have 3 on IMAX and 1 regular screen so far. It’s such an amazing film.

@user-bh5kq5ue3r

24 күн бұрын

the movie was epic but how do you watch the same stuff multiple times? i find it tough watching any movie multiple times no matter how epic they are (probably once in the space of decades, that too if i'm feeling bored)

@jasonthomas9319

17 күн бұрын

Thankfully Villanueve is going to ignore alot of the messiah nonsense just like he ignored the first books nonsense. Remember the great houses didn't reject paul in the books and messiah is years later.

@jaredloveys9617

17 күн бұрын

​@user-bh5kq5ue3r I've watched it 10 times and it's the only movie I've ever been able to keep watching it and noticed more and more every time

@jasonthomas9319

17 күн бұрын

@@jaredloveys9617 I second that, it's insane how much is communicated with no dialogue.

I'm hoping for one small glimpse of Paul's potential Golden Path in Dune Messiah. Two seconds, that's all I ask. If you know you know.

@yup7380

27 күн бұрын

Denis could take creative approch with that and turn in into a visual storytelling masterpiece on how trapped Paul and humanity are by the future

@KymHammond

27 күн бұрын

That is a spoiler alert for the context of this excellent review - what a treat, and so needed- and for the next film. There is also enough books is the series to make another two films.

@Klikoderat

27 күн бұрын

The second movie had some shots of a famine, I was assuming this is the golden path.

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

consume the next product and don't think about this one!

@Klikoderat

27 күн бұрын

@@Zed-fq3lj I've been thinking about the Dune books for 25 years now.

A point: The Kwisaz Haderach is by definition a male. The plan of the Bene Gesserit was to have Leto and Jessica's daughter have a son with Feyd Ruatha and that was to be the Kwisaz Haderach, but under Bene Gesserit control instead of out in the wild with an axe to grind and phenomenal cosmic power. Edit: Also, the Fremen Messiah/ Lisan Al Gaib is a prophecy manufactured by the Bene Gesserit's Missionara Protectiva in case a sister is marooned with the Fremen. They have these seeded in indigenous populations throughout the imperium. They are unrelated to the Kwisaz Haderach breeding program.

@tatianar9429

14 күн бұрын

Kwisaz Haderach was intended a culmination of 90-or-so, if I remember correctly, generations of eugenics. The fact of the matter is yes, there's some genetic crossover between Paul Atreidis and what the program was looking to create, but there are genetic lines and ancestral memories that Paul simply doesn't have access to, because quite a few noble houses' genoms were being collected in Feud-Rautha. So Paul's precognition and access to genetic memories and enhancements is not as complete as it could have been if Kwisaz Haderach were actually born. Paul with all his phenomenal cosmic powers is a pale approximation of powers his intended progeny would've had. Whether he would be under the Bene Gesserit's control or not is debatable: people and institutions nearly always overestimate how controllable things they create are, especially since the creation would have ended up so phenomenally more powerful that any of the people aiming to control him.

both dunes are some of my favourite movies ever

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

what a wasted life 🙄

@jaredloveys9617

17 күн бұрын

Watching them one after the other is insane makes both movies better

@petter8166

16 күн бұрын

@@jaredloveys9617 my local cinema showed them back to back on opening day,i sadly couldnt go there

@jaredloveys9617

16 күн бұрын

@petter8166 damn that would of been an experience

“lead them to paradise “

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

who?

@sci-fihorizons2867

43 минут бұрын

​@@Zed-fq3ljthe Great Houses

Paul's speech towards the war council was pure gas.

I didn't see Dune Part One in theatres back in 2021, but after watching it for the first time a few months ago I knew I needed to see Part Two on the big screen. These movies give me hope for the future of filmmaking. If I had more free-time I would definitely see this again in theatres. (Maybe not 5 times though)

@K.C-2049

28 күн бұрын

I made sure to see Dune Part One in the cinema because I, like many folks, slept on BR2049 and it kind of bombed, and I wanted to make sure my boy Denis Villeneuve is successful. for me he just doesn't miss, he's an absolute legend.

@ot7biasedmashups

19 күн бұрын

Exactly my experience two weeks ago. I was bored so I decided to watch Dune part one as it seemed like a movie that isn't the typical color blast blockbuster. Ended up GAGGED and immediately checked if it was still available in cinemas. Turns out most of them didn't even play part two anymore except for one over 120km away from me. I decided that it was worth it and OH YES IT WAS. I'm still shocked.

Love when a movie develops the audience as a character

@CitizenScott

10 күн бұрын

Yeah one-dimensional lazy writing rules.

Leto ironically telling Paul the future in the first film even though he’s the one that couldn’t see the future

This truly resonates with me. This movie became a top 10 all timer for me by the third watch.

Had the 100% EXACT same experience as you did, mate. First viewing on first film, I felt it was slow and somewhat convoluted. Second time around, I liked it way more. Though first viewing for this, man. From soundtrack to cinematography to direction to writing to acting to the perfect feel of science fiction and Dune as a whole, this film’s no short of perfection. And I can see that with how much of a passion project this video essay was.

@worlddd7777

28 күн бұрын

Dune story is way too complex for casual audience. There are no heros, no bad guys, no happy ending, no hero to save the day. And keep in mind movies dont portray full Dune story all that well, there is so much missing

Had the same feeling the first time I read the book, it wasn’t until I reread it that I was pulled in and it changed my life. 25 years later I Iive and breathe the story, I used to meditate on the litany of fear in order to get through my basic training in the military.

Epicness of Dune Part 2 can't be comparable with Avengers, Avatar or overrated star wars but it can be in fact on par and comparable with the greatness and epicness of the fantasy masterpiece The Lord of Rings.

@worlddd7777

28 күн бұрын

Ending was little bit rushed, some characters little bit hollow. Great movie, but not so sure its masterpiece

dune really opened my mind up the message for me was keep moving forward through the trials and tribulations.

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

what I took away was “use more spice when cooking.”

@2KOOLURATOOLGaming

24 күн бұрын

Lol, "keep moving forward"? You're gonna love Attack On Titan.

@Nolimitsbestfriend

24 күн бұрын

@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming i don't like the author other thsn that aot is pretty good

@2KOOLURATOOLGaming

24 күн бұрын

@Nolimitsbestfriend Isayama? Haven't heard anything controversial about him but I do know that AOT is in my top 5 best written stories of all time. The complexity and amount of themes, the character development, the progress from the first to last episode, the heart and the triumph. I highly recommend. Fortunately it has very few anime tropes and you get used to the ones that are there.

Please PLEASE make an entire video on the use of Jamis. He appears in the early Holy War visions as a guiding force for Paul and represents all Fremen life rather than the MAN Jamis. And I would love to see more people talk about this fascinating take on the character.

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

_Part 2_ needed way more visions, with Jamis or whoever. _Part 1_ needed more Jamis in general… he appears in the prologue, but then he doesn’t show up again until Paul’s vision in the Coriolis storm. also, Jamis’ family, for whom Paul became responsible, might’ve been a nice addition… and perhaps they get killed when the Harkonnens attacks Sietch Tabr, in place of Leto 1.5?

I take it you haven't read the novels? They're no broken promises. Paul does exactly what he says. He's not a hero, and this isn't a heroes journey...

@nationalsocialism3504

26 күн бұрын

He's a messiah and it's a messiah journey... regardless of how piss poor Herbert ended up handling it to the point of having to write a whole other book to try to tell the audience that they are wrong (same thing that Villenuve is having to do with the movie.) I mean who really wants to be miserable Chadi with her Water-Fat face when being happy Stilgar who has a purposeful life is your other option??? The only thing that is sad is that we don't have anyone to follow like that... I mean look at Trump who is an absolute piss poor option but the level of desperation is so great among the populace that a sizeable amount still latch on to him (unsurprising that when there's a real leader like Hitler that his people were already holding festivals celebrating him as The Once & Future King returned... which is insane when viewed from the perspective that literally no one in over a millennia of European history has ever even been mentioned as being King Arthur but Hitler was spontaneously [the NSDAP actually tried to crack down on it originally but got massive push back] being celebrated as such within his own lifetime.)

@tatianaferreira5998

22 күн бұрын

@@nationalsocialism3504 You might be the first person I've seen to share my opinion. It's up to the reader/viewer to form their own opinions on the book/film, even if it wasn't what the writer intended. How arrogant must a writer be to write a whole other book just to force people into his ideals?! If people want to think Paul is a hero, that's up to them. Just like there are people who think Thanos was right or the Lannisters were awesome. Opinions are just that, opinions! 🤷‍♀ Freedom of thinking and speech is important! Besides, Paul Atreides IS the Kwisatz Haderach, just like Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one, even if their actions along the way are morally questionable. They are also complex human beings with emotions, they are not perfect, just like the rest of us. I personally don't think Paul is like Anakin, Paul is more of an anti-hero character as opposed to Anakin who goes full villain. But again, that's MY opinion. Also, people tend to think of a prophecy as a divine thing that must come from God or whatever, and it is not. The definition of prophecy is a simple one: it's a prediction of something that will happen in the future. So the way I see it, it doesn't matter if it comes from the Bene Gesserit or not. In the movies they focus too much on the fact that if it came from the Bene Gesserit than it must not be real. But it is real, not in a divine way, but in a "The One will come one day to lead you to paradise" way. In the end Paul gave the Fremen what they wanted, but with the "paradise" they also lost their sense of culture. So they were disappointed, but that's not Paul's fault. The message I take from it, it's not about the prophecy being real or not, but rather: will it be in fact what we want or need? And, nobody ever asked how the Lisan Al-Gaib was going to lead the Fremen into the "green paradise". Those are the questions we should ask, not if it is real or not. Even if the prophecy came from God, my questions would remain the same. About movie Chani... I can't even start! To me a person who believes in nothing is as toxic as someone who believes blindly in everything. she even goes as far as gaslight Paul about his visions 🙄 And constantly blaming him for other people's beliefs even when he did absolutely nothing to lead people that way, he was just himself. And at the end when she leaves, not just Paul, but she also leaves her people, it felt like she was just a self-centred girl who was mad because she didn't have her way. Sorry about the long "testament". I actually have more to say about the subject, but those are the important points. 😅

@nationalsocialism3504

22 күн бұрын

@tatianaferreira5998 Anakin successfully fulfilled his role... nobody seemed to understand what is role was though. Anakin was supposed to "bring balance to the Force" which he definitely did by wiping out the Jedi... thereby the imbalance of the excessive Light side users was equalized down to near where the Dark side users were (Star Wars fans go into nerd rage when I point that out to them since it has no rebuttal.) But I do agree that the "prophecy" being manufactured doesn't make it false... the Bene Gesserit manufactured similar prophecies throughout the Imperium since they had no clue where the Kwistaz Haderach would be born 10,000 years later when their plan finally culminated in success. Paul is the Lisan Al-Gaib because he is the Kwistaz Haderach... the Kwistaz Haderach being on another planet would have fulfilled a different manufactured prophecy under that planetary conditions.

@tatianaferreira5998

22 күн бұрын

@@nationalsocialism3504 yes, Anakin was successful in the end just like Paul, only not the way it was expected. That's why prophecies can be tricky. I never disagreed with that... 🤔 Anakin still became the villain. That doesn't invalidate his role in the end. They're not mutually exclusive. I wouldn't put Paul in the same category though. But that is my personal point of view.

@nationalsocialism3504

22 күн бұрын

@tatianaferreira5998 I'll agree that he became a villian in that he was antithetical to The Empire & Emperor Palpatine was an idiot for letting Vader run around causing problems unnecessarily (plus the whole "doom weapon" which was moronic itself, especially when dealing with insurgency terrorists like the Rebel Alliance.)

As a massive Dune fan, this analysis is like complete nonsense, but hey, I'm glad you enjoyed it

The way I felt watching this in imax is how I imagine people in 1977 felt while watching Star Wars.

I had a big turnaround with Dune Part One as well. I watched it once and thought it was good but not great and I didn’t watch it again until the day I went to go see Part Two and I fell in love with it. I became obsessed with Dune. I’ve now read Dune and Dune Messiah. Dune Part Two is one of my favorite sci-if movies ever made.

@drewmorrison

26 күн бұрын

You know how good Part 2 is by the fact that it makes part 1 a better movie. That’s when you know you have a great film. Maybe Disney should have learned that concept with Star Wars instead of undoing everything movie that came before it

Lets see if Dune Messiah will hit this same level

I only hope that the next time Dune is given an adaptation, that director will be even half as passionate for Frank Herbert's seminal classic as Denis Villeneuve. Part of me, however, hopes that there will never again be a time when we'll need to be told this story and learn its lessons.

@blah55044

26 күн бұрын

We still have 5 more books in the series, no need to adapt the first one again.

@SyniStar616

26 күн бұрын

@blah55044 in my comment, I was referring to a time, hopefully, far enough removed from our own that many of us will either no longer be around or be old enough to barely recall the current work of Denis Villeneuve on the franchise.

@mk-fu6dc

14 күн бұрын

​@SyniStar616 if the trilogy ends perfectly ppl will still be watching these movies in the 2050s onwards no need for another adaption🤷🏽‍♂️

I couldn’t get on the train with Dune like you initially but I feel like I need to rewatch it again. But Dune: Part Two is one of the best movies ever made.

@MelancholyPepper

27 күн бұрын

I had the same experience. Rewatching the first part after seeing the second was immensely enjoyable

@TheGrinningCritic

27 күн бұрын

@@MelancholyPepper I need to do that.

@theavatar9191

4 күн бұрын

Dune Part 1 is also one of the best films ever made

Dune 1 and 2 is better than anything Star Wars has done since Empire. Sucks that a billion dollar company can’t make movies like these. It takes a real director and talented people who actually know what they’re doing to make quality content

What I love is that the second movie actually enhances the first movie when you go back to watch it, I’m going to be honest, the first movie definitely has it’s flaws but with the second movie to compliment it, it helps complete the experience

Paul Atreides’s life is “between a rock and a hard place” in every decision he makes.

Dude you left out the extreme prescience that Paul has. Hell you left out the spice entirely. The spice has wide spreading effects on the world and those who use it or are exposed to it. You basically left out two of the key factors to not just Paul's story but the whole universe of Dune. I am impressed with the dedication and effort you put into this video.

You are missing a little… he really wanted to just be Fremen and not go south. Pun intended he goes south because there is no other way. Then when he awakens he sees more than he will ever tell you in this movie. He is the ultimate power because he knows how to save humanity but like Thanos knew it requires sacrifice

@2KOOLURATOOLGaming

24 күн бұрын

But what if, like Eren Jaeger, he is too small and too narcissistic to actually know the right path, instead, dooming the universe to a fixed reality that he has perceived, without ever knowing that there is a better one?

@StanDarsh1997

18 күн бұрын

Interesting thought. I never thought about comparison to AOT. However, Eren was always full of doubt. Whereas Paul eventually used the "lie" after taking the water of life to get revenge for his family and the protection of his new family.

I’m watching this just after seeing DUNE 2 for the 7th time. Masterpiece

It was the same for me. I haven't had any connections to the dune universe when I first watched the first part. It was gorgeous and "good" as a "building up". Then, I noticed the part 2 was in cinemas and I just had to know why everyone was so hyped. I re-watched the first part again and looked some things up beforehand. And DAMN. It clicked for me. I was totally in awe with the first movie. Then I went to the second movie, and I was SHOCKED... It was like I was in trance when I left the movie after 3h... which felt like not even 2h. I can totally relate to you.

“lead them to paradise..”

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

''Who?''

@Usernumber777

27 күн бұрын

@@Zed-fq3lj those who don’t accept emperor Muad’dib

@Zed-fq3lj

26 күн бұрын

hahahahah! ah...poor souls@@Usernumber777

@Battle_One

23 күн бұрын

@@Zed-fq3lj Everyone in the known universe, that's who.

i never really got the hype for timothee until i watched dune part 1 and 2 on the same weekend for the first time. very talented young man. especially in part 2 he put on an amazing performance, and quite frightening by the end of the movie. it was extremely believable from his part.

@SuperStella1111

24 күн бұрын

I’ve watched a bunch of his film since. He’s wonderful. I assumed he couldn’t be that good looking AND talented. I was wrong! 😂

@theavatar9191

4 күн бұрын

@@SuperStella1111Bro was nominated for an Oscar in his early 20’s

I missed movies like this, this is cinema, we need more movies and stories like Dune

What exactly was Paul supposed to do? His options were to either become the Lisan al-Ghaib or let the Harkonnens win. There was no third option. It seems unfair to blame Paul for a situation ultimately engineered by a superpowered space CIA. While I think the film communicates Frank Herbert's intent well, Herbert's story undercuts the themes he was trying to convey. Dune is a great story but it fails at doing what Herbert wanted it to do: Make Paul a bad guy.

@KymHammond

27 күн бұрын

This needs to be asked in terms of cinema first: what are the terms for assuring a successful blockbuster for a story that had historically struggled to succeed as popular entertainment? As for the story, Herbert had a complex understanding of the world: of societies, of beliefs, Of the types of characters they would produce, and of the powers of women. looks at the women writers of his time and who they were sourcing, and then at that age old question around the influences women have on their children generation after generation.

@fuzzyhair321

17 күн бұрын

See if we lived in a black and white world we would. But we are a part of the ride with Paul's journey to power. We live in a world filled with this idea of the Messiah. We are with Paul's crusade whether we like it or not

Next time Disney serves me a bol of bullshit movie and tells me I'm toxic for not loving it.... #MakeItLikeDune

I don't see why so many people were surprised about Paul's proposal to Irulan, its dirty but just was political marriages were through all history. It should be obvious that Dune shows a regressive future, people giving up marriages for love is part of that.

I don’t see this take too often. However, on my second watching I noticed that the score does an interesting thing with Paul’s achievements. From the worm ride on, there is an intense undertone of doom obscured by triumph. It was an impressive foreshadowing done by Zimmer.

I’ve loved Part One and Part Two, and glad to see you are liking it! I’m reading the novel right now and I’m so excited to further explore the rest of the novels by Frank and I would recommend it for you too because it’s a new experience of the same story

i’m a teenager right now and i’ve been disappointed at watching all these new and bland blockbusters while also seeing the ones that came out in the past. it made me feel sad that i’ve missed the era of amazing blockbusters. but after Dune Part 2 i’ve finally been given hope that maybe we’re entering the new era of blockbusters and i just can’t wait for the future

@fuzzyhair321

17 күн бұрын

This is for you what lord of the rings was for me. I was 9 when fellowship came out and that influenced me

The first one I wasn't feeling at all but dune 2 was a 10/10

Brilliantly succinct and insightful video man. You've illuminated some details for me which I missed in my first viewing. Feyd as an honest reflection of Paul's inner shadow under the messianic facade is quite brilliant.

Looking forward to your video essay since Madame Web's review. From feeling nothing in the first film to having his life transformed during the second film was an interesting turn of events.

I’m excited for dune Messiah in the books it’s paints Paul more so as feeling like he is a slave to his prophecies and in the end he chooses to reject it where as Leto fully embraces being a tyrant

i loved your interpretation of the black and white on the outside and color on the inside. done blew my mind

Film speak changed mine

@FilmSpeak

28 күн бұрын

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I cannot express with text, how much I respect this review! Well done sir!

Bro this video spoke to the exact feelings I was feeling when I watched the first dune: surrendering to the movie when Jamis was telling Paul to “let go” when he was flying the chopper. As soon as I let go I felt the true emotion and feeling of the film which in my opinion is these movies greatest aspect. oh ya, HANS FUCKING ZIMMER

I adored it. I just couldn’t leave the movie behind, I went twice to see it and I have NEVER donde that before. Such a masterpiece

Idk man I don't understand the hate for Paul. He is literally the kwizatz Haderach not some fraud and he does win and benefits the fremen

@hanzethetickler1137

27 күн бұрын

@arnavrajadhyax2580 he literally is. And then when Leto II comes along he becomes the ultimate kh. Even the bj refer to him as such. Just because he doubts himself doesn't make it any less true

@tatianaferreira5998

22 күн бұрын

@@arnavrajadhyax2580 sounds like you're just repeating something you heard instead of thinking for yourself. I personally think having blind faith is toxic, even if it is a true messiah. Paul IS the Kwisatz Haderach, that doesn't mean people should follow him to hell. THAT is the true message of this story and not if he is the messiah or not. In the end that's irrelevant, actions are what's important. Paul does in fact lead the Fremen to paradise as the prophecy foretold. The problem isn't if the prophecy is real or not, the problem is that nobody questioned how would the Lisan Al-Gaib accomplish that or if it was in fact a good thing for the Fremen or not. In the end, the Fremen had what they wished, but they also lost their culture and sense of self. Was it worth it?

I think you should read/listen to the books.

@Zed-fq3lj

27 күн бұрын

exactly! the movie is average at most!

Great review, I like the emphasis on why Chani was mad in the last act. So many people missed the chain of events and/or ignored it completely.

@nationalsocialism3504

26 күн бұрын

Chani sucked and was by far the worst part of the movie... she was the proof of why those people are wrong. Who wants to be miserable Chani with her Water-Fat face when being happy Stilgar following his messiah to burn the galaxy is your other option??? One sucks & the other is a life full of purpose and fulfillment

You are soooo good at explaining things. Amazing. Keep up the great work :) Erik from Sweden.

Brilliant writing as usual Griffin.

@FilmSpeak

28 күн бұрын

Thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️

is it better to be burdened by that knowledge? or to live in ignorance?

@janosbrutyo2835

28 күн бұрын

What can one grain of sand do against the desert storm?

bro I LOVE YOU. spot on. thank you for making this. keep it up

Yours is one of the best videos I've seen on Dune. Sincere thanks for the brilliant work!

@FilmSpeak

4 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

great feyd analysis

I feel like the common misconception would be that paul throws away chani for beign the lisan al gaib and starting the jihad but he starts the jihad preciasly becouse he wants to save chani. If you pay attention when sietch tabr gets bombed paul sees two visions one of chanis death and one of horrid consequences of jihad. If paul stays in the north using nukes then chani dies but if he goes to the south first and only then attacks the emperor chani survives but billions die. And he chooses chani but she cant just see it yet

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

yea… I wish they explored that more, how he wants to do everything for the right reasons, and is trying hard to walk the narrow path without becoming the awful tyrant, or just doing everything for power and revenge… I thought the third act was very rushed… making the third act into a film of its own would’ve given lots of time to explore all that 🤷🏻‍♂️

😮 as one of the few people who read the books😮 everything he did is justified😮 there is only😮 the golden path😮

@Battle_One

23 күн бұрын

Meaning that Paul actually IS the savior, we just don't realize it until 4 thousand years later 🪱

@gerdaleta

23 күн бұрын

@@Battle_One it's actually like I think it was a 10,000 years it might even be a 100,000 it was a long time I mean read God emperor bro it's all there without the golden path all humans are eventually eradicated by machines because the great houses create machines again despite all the treaties

Dune is the modern star wars. The huge crowds that the original star wars drew, the obsession over it and numerous rewatches. This is something that hasn't happened on his scale since Star Wars was good. And the second part was eagerly awaited just like Empire Strikes Back was. Star Wars may be a steaming trash fire made predominantly of shit today, but Dune is this generation's New Hope. Something epic that draws you in and makes you love it. It's ironic, so many movies and franchises tried to be "the next star wars" and fell flat on their faces. Then you have this movie based on the same material that star wars was based on, and it succeeded where everything else failed.

KZread doing you dirtyyyyy with the views

@FilmSpeak

28 күн бұрын

Hopefully it catches on. I'm honestly just thankful anyone watches this given the length. It was a true labor of love.

@JermisCoronado

28 күн бұрын

@@FilmSpeakabsolutely get it! I’ll be watching this later tonight!

@GaaraFPS

28 күн бұрын

Everyone is allowed their own opinions but some bad takes will turn people off from this channel it did it for me and I’m back to watch this one now

The emphasis that you are describing in this video about this movie is on point, such a masterpiece

Dune Part Two, was such a cinematic epic. Im highly confident that it will go down in film history as one of the few examples of sequels that outdo the first installment. Definitely up there alongside Empire Strikes Back, T2, and The Godfather: Part II.

Instant subscribe brother, keep the good content coming!

When I first watched dune part 1, i thought it was just okay. I started re watching it, and the 3rd time I saw the movie I was obsessed.

I wonder how will people react to Messiah. There is no redemption for Paul

@Sam_T2000

24 күн бұрын

1. there kinda is, or at least there could be, depending on the framing, and how much of the later books they draw from. 2. I don’t quite buy the idea that Paul is a villain… he’s just walking the path that he must walk… but I hope they grapple with the distinction in _Messiah._

If you never read the book it was way over your head. Those of us who read the book enjoyed the snapshots of critical plot junctures. Glad you found a way to appreciate it.

While the film was amazing, my Dune rabbit hole at the moment is buzzing more around the story's IRL impact. You mentioned movies and books, but there is another big one, the medium that introduced me to Herbert's universe back in 2000, gaming. And that's very special, beacuse from the licence of the Lynch movies Westwood layed the foundation of the whole RTS genre with their Dune game, the ripple effects of that still give me shivers

I liked this review so much I’m going to watch it another few times, just like I watched Dune part 2 a few times. Every time I learn more of the depth of the characters, the story, and the tragedy.

I feel the same way I was stuck on the 1984 version and loved that one and just couldn't get into this one....then it hit me and wow its truly spectacular. I needed this after GOTs ended so badly and after watching Disney destroy my first love of star wars.

this movie was absolutely phenomenal. Me and my friend went to go see it, not expecting anything more than the first movie, and the utter childlike glee I felt watching a movie that, you can just tell, was a labor of love to this degree… restored my faith in the sci-fi movie genre. It’s rare we get to witness a modern masterpiece but this is the Lord of The Rings of 2024

Awesome video . I really enjoyed it . I was captivated when i watched Dune part 1. That movie blew me away . Ive watched that movie close to 100 times maybe more and im gonna do the same when part 2 comes out . I went to go see part 2 in Imax and it was the greatest experience I've ever had watching a movie. Can't wait for the 3rd installment

Brother, this was a perfect audio essay. Great job. You’re maybe the best audio essay content creator… “I don’t care what you believe!!!!!….. I believe!!!!😆🤣 i enjoyed it and moved me to hope for the future of the next sequel but also fearful of it because making an entire trilogy is hard to hit the landing and making it impeccably great. Just to add what you said about when a people worship a ruler or leader. In one of the documentary videos for dune 2 special features, Christopher walken tells denis he was never comfortable playing a king and he’s just a guy that comes from Brooklyn. lol Denis encourages him by telling him” you don’t need to do anything but let your co actors treat you with that majesty. Walken realized that all he had to do is react to how an emperor subjects treat him and not with a pompous attitude. 5 thumbs up to this video sir!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

What edition did the black and white illustrations you used come from?

I’m so mad I missed it in IMAX. I just watched it in my home theater. I’m sure it would have been amazing

44:46 OH MY GOSH I GET IT!!! I could only really see the “surface level” metaphors of the atreides charging the bull. I just couldn’t grasp the deeper, ultimate, theme. Until NOW!!! You said it!!! Paul is the bull being led by the red cloth! The trauma he experienced, the visions, the guidance of his mother and his training, it was all a red cloth. It gently coaxed him throughout his life to finally charge at the exact moment everyone wanted. He was corrupt from the beginning, and it also makes sense that the spice corrupted them. Chani and the other fremen aren’t corrupted by it because they have a sense of self. Paul has no sense of self, he only has his visions and his idea of what is right (which is very easily manipulated). I’m currently reading children of dune, and the twins explain how in order to survive and not become corrupt they must NOT falter and drink the water of life. I finally get one of the larger themes aahhh! This was a MASTERPIECE of a video, I’m so glad I clicked!!❤

Honestly I felt the same way I did not get the hype or fascination for the first Dune movie but part 2 really went above and beyond to cater to the people who probably didn't like the first movie And I got to give villieneuve nothing But love and admiration because very few filmmakers understand the material they've been given but villieneuve Not only understands the material, respects the material but forging his own path through the material without disrespecting it or downplay the audience by making it more accessible. He truly is the lisan al gaib

I never got into Dune until about a month ago I guess when Pt 2 came out. I watched the first one finally and LOVED it and became kind of obsessed. I've been watching KZread reviews and lore videos like crazy ever since. Pt 2 is honestly in my Top 5 movies ever. I hope they make 4 or 5 parts. I love this saga.

First time encountering your channel. Your voice sounds like Matt Pat!

One thing I didn't understand is if Paul was afraid of causing billions of deaths, why didn't he try to negotiate with the Landsraad? Like maybe he could have tried to negotiate over control of Arrakis and spice production but let someone else be emperor. Obviously control over Arrakis gives great power and I'm not sure the Landsraad would agree but Idk just a thought would love to hear what others think

@TheFpsNinja

27 күн бұрын

Negotiating with the Landsraad also would have caused the death of billions. If he convinced them, it would have meant war with the Imperium. If he failed, then he would be a sitting duck for his enemies. There was nothing Paul could have done to stop billions from dying because it wasn't his fault.

@Apfeljunge666

27 күн бұрын

@@TheFpsNinja the only thing he could have done was to lose on arrakis on purpose. But even then, millions of Fremen die.

@Preebs33

27 күн бұрын

@@TheFpsNinja I see

@1simo93521

27 күн бұрын

He knows if he doesn't lead the fremen another one will one day. It's the fremens destiny to conquer the empire they are the only ones who can. Paul decides at least he can limit the damage if he's in charge of the jihad.

@1simo93521

27 күн бұрын

Also if Paul dies the harkonens will become the imperial family and be much more dangerous for mankind.

Dune reminds me of Avatar in so many ways. One, the protagonist is away to a different planet. Two, the motive is to greedily obtain a rare and expensive element. Three, adapt to the strange locals. Four, destroy the big machinery with the locals. Five, tame and ride the biggest overgrown wildlife to impress your new friends. Six, have a duel with the leader's champion. Seven, your own people is forced off the planet as a favor to the locals. At least the scenary was immersive and the acting was not bad. Kudos.

Dune part 2 revived my love for Cinema as well. Although part 1 was also not my favourite, but decided to go watch part two in cinemas anyway and im so happy I did

I didn't like Dune 1 that much but Dune 2 was so good! The story developed and it just made a lot more sense.

"So to does Jessica rebel against the reverend mother who functions as a counterpart to a literal mother for her." Boy, do I have news for you!

Literally feel the same. First time watching it I thought it was cool but not amazing and now after weeks of it being stuck in my head I’m now obsessed and think it’s a masterpiece and timothee is the lisan al giab 😂

I love both Dune 1 & 2. I’ve seen Dune 1 on MAX at least 4 times a week since 2021 and Dune 2 at least 16 times in the theater. I read the book twice - I loved and enjoyed Villaneuve’s adaptation ❤❤❤❤

Did we watch the same film? What final battle? We barely saw 2 minutes of the siege.

Part One was literally too genius for most people. Part Two was literally Villeneuve trying to correct for that.

Ya it changed my life too haha. Dune Part 2 is one of my new favorite films of all time. Also glad I'm not the only one obsessed with the score