Duncan was legendary throughout the imperium. Those Harkonnens knew exactly who he was and were like, "nah we're good just take the thopter dude". Then they just walk away

@Glopdemon

10 ай бұрын

Harkonnen troops as a whole weren’t known for being too smart, but these guys were clearly exceptions

@koko40800

3 ай бұрын

@@Glopdemon The Atreides also considered the Harkonnen cowards (and inferior fighters, mostly poorly paid and trained conscripts)....and here they showed both

@koko40800

3 ай бұрын

@@Glopdemon Harkonnen soldiers are like "Y'all don't pay me enough for this... Ima lay down my life for that Ahole Baron and Rabban?"

@tomorbataar5922

2 ай бұрын

@@koko40800 Can imagine Harkonnen press ganged and brutalized people into service. Discipline probably kept by fear, these guys may well have ended up in front of a firing squad.

@texiannationalist

2 ай бұрын

@@koko40800 assuming the baron pays them at all.

I love how this scene isn't in the book, but it fits so perfectly with Duncan's character that it doesn't matter. A brave daredevil with burning hatred for the Harkonnens, master swordsman, ace 'thopter pilot. This is exactly the kind of departure from the source material that is respectful and adds to the movie.

@VideoMask93

Жыл бұрын

I don't remember the ace pilot part in the books, either, but I'm not complaining!

@LigMaBaIIz

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoMask93 if I remember correct, Paul and Jessica notices his style of flying with 'thopters before he lands so maybe they wanted to show this with a cool escape scene.

@VideoMask93

Жыл бұрын

@@LigMaBaIIz They mention it in the movie, but I don't remember it in the book. Or maybe I wrote it off as Paul's budding prescience alerting him to Duncan's presence, rather than noticing how he flew a 'thopter.

@NightWanderer31415

Жыл бұрын

To Hell, dogs!

@JeffreyBernabe

Жыл бұрын

i think this is the replacement for Atomics trap from Duncan in the book. This is whats great with this adaptation, whatever changes from the source material, its still make sense.

"TO HELL, DOGS!!!" dogs:"no problem BRO, the keys are in the ignition..."

@cykeok3525

2 ай бұрын

"Uhhh... your ornithopter is waiting for you, sir"

@yeoshenghong4802

2 ай бұрын

It would be great if they just throw him the key

@darthnovii

2 ай бұрын

"I know where I'm going. Ready to follow me?"

"To hell, dogs!" "Understandable, have a nice day."

I really like how the laser looks like real lasers and doesn't explode or impact, just cuts

@VoodooV1

3 ай бұрын

still baffles me that they would be so casual with their usage though. it touches one shield and BOOM. But you know...rule of cool and all, so I get it.

@zucc3446

3 ай бұрын

@@VoodooV1 iirc the missile that hit Duncan's ornithopter at 0:36 knocks out its shield

@drewmannMcGee

2 ай бұрын

@@zucc3446 still, one dead body with its sheild still on gets clipped and, kaboom

@zhufortheimpaler4041

2 ай бұрын

@@zucc3446 the shield does not "fail" when hit. thats the thing with Holtzmann Shields. They dont have an "overload" threshhold. They can take basicly an indefenite amount of punishment and continue working. Its basicly a highly concentrated field of matter repulsion (meaning basicly what happens when you turn an anti grav to 11 and narrow its effect field to paper thin.) On high settings, even air wont penetrate and these things can run wthout pause, unless you loose your energy supply.

@coffeemachines

2 ай бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041i still dont get this part. the lore say you shouldnt attack someone or something on shield with lazgun, because it would create a nuke sized explosive. is this true?

The villains are so competent in Dune, and that adds to it. While the Harkonnen foot soldiers are way out of their league, there's an immediate counterattack to try and take out Duncan's thopter.

@manakin5

5 ай бұрын

We see this also in the very beginning of the film, when the Harkonnens immediately respond to the Fremen assault on their spice harvesters

@zhufortheimpaler4041

2 ай бұрын

its likely that those were Sardaukar, because no sane Harkonnen or Atreides would use a Lasgun vs a potentially shielded target (the feedback reaction of a lasgun hitting a shield would nuke the entire city)

@tomorbataar5922

2 ай бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Always thought that detail was kinda dumb. Cause explosion and collateral maybe, but nuclear level power level? Just outfit your troops with lasers and make war against you way too costly.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

2 ай бұрын

@@tomorbataar5922 basicly it would be as risky to them as to you. on the other hand, when you fire a lasgun, you have to deactivate your shields, so you can get hit by shrapnel etc.

@chuckn4851

2 ай бұрын

@@tomorbataar5922 It's explained multiple times in the books that there's a MAD agreement between members of the Landsraad and Imperial Throne.

I love how he taunts them and "drags" the beam around to inflict as much damage as he can before leaving

@MrArmystrong85

2 жыл бұрын

I love how he was basically risking a nuclear explosion

@georgeofhamilton

Жыл бұрын

Damage to the city? Seems like he’s just harming the innocent inhabitants, to be honest.

@TheWhiteDragon3

Жыл бұрын

@@MrArmystrong85 I heard somebody say that was a particle beam

@MrArmystrong85

Жыл бұрын

@@TheWhiteDragon3 the book never mentions particle beams. It should be assumed this is a lasgun

@bigbitehood1353

Жыл бұрын

I never thought of that

0:15 I love the detail of the Harkonen soliders in the back choosing to back off when they see how skillful of a fighter Duncan is. Show's how they aren't just all dumb and blind fighters and are okay with takeing the "he who runs away lives to fight another day" approach.

@squamish4244

Жыл бұрын

They're more intelligent than Imperial Stormtroopers lol

@user-tn8rl1lc8l

Жыл бұрын

And then we have Sardaukar who, despite taking heavy losses and dying by Duncan’s blade, just kept fighting and eventually overwhelmed him. I know that the fight in the eco station was meant to showcase Duncan’s badassery but I think it also demonstrated how disciplined and well-trained Sardaukar are, especially compared to the Harkonnens.

@L_Brick_Studios

Жыл бұрын

@@user-tn8rl1lc8l absolutely! Fantastic detail that tells us so much about two factions without a word being said. Show don't tell, Love it!

@bait5257

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-tn8rl1lc8lthat's a big key difference, they will have big consequences if they let duncan go away unlike those no names soldiers

@squamish4244

Жыл бұрын

@@ThaUltimateHunter Star Wars has always been intended for children. What's your point? And not all of it. Andor isn't. Children can watch it, but it has mature themes that will go right over children's heads. It's the best pop culture depiction of how a fascist regime actually works that I've seen in quite awhile.

Good job that didn't hit the ornithopter with it's shield on. Also, I like that the bad guys aren't suicidal and will not blindly attack on obviously superior opponent.

@nickmitsialis

2 жыл бұрын

I found them rather stupid and a bit cowardly.

@Feyd01

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickmitsialis that's the whole point!

@DeMause

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickmitsialis Pretty accurate for a military motivated primarily by fear.

@zedwhyex

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickmitsialis That's Harkonnens for you

@ibashcommunists6847

Жыл бұрын

Instinct of self preservation.

Like the fact that the harkonnens just give him space and let him pass, makes them seem more like real humans who dont want to die and less like the unthinking minions we see in most action movies

@Kazanko28

6 ай бұрын

They're just thugs, no honor or balls unless they are for sure they'll win.

I loved the missile launches in this movie. It reminded me of the way missiles launched in Macross/Robotech back in the 80s. They were always shown as a large clusters of warheads, seemingly flying off in random directions but then all converging on their target at once. Great to see it in live action.

@jehoiakimelidoronila5450

Жыл бұрын

Ah, finally. Somebody who notice that! Also, nice of you to reference the macross franchise

@mauz791

Жыл бұрын

It really is beautiful

@kevinstroup

7 ай бұрын

They are harder to intercept if they have an erratic target path. Smart.

@nd7434

3 ай бұрын

LAUNCH ALL MISSILES!

@Keemperor40K

28 күн бұрын

For me the most important part of that scene is that Holtzman Shields are not some no limits fallacies as it seems to be implied, but they can also be overwhelmed by simple excessive firepower. It also means that shields are not some end all be all of warfare, but simply a powerful tool in an arsenal.

0:19 brah we just taking picture with the Ornithopter.

@theauditor5275

Жыл бұрын

Raiding Arakeen with the boys

@koko40800

16 күн бұрын

We'll get out your way now...

One of many examples of the care the director took creating scenes that were only alluded to in the source material. Duncan’s skill with a thopter is mentioned, and when he reunites with Paul and Jessica, Duncan also takes a moment to relish the shield lasgun explosion trap he set during his escape that lights up the sky during their reunion. With this sequence, we are treated to an intelligent and respectful interpretation of something only briefly mentioned in the book. For someone who has read the book at least 10 times in 40’years, it was one of many satisfying moments in this film. There are other subtle examples like this throughout the movie that show how well this director knew and cared about the source story.

@magetaaaaaa

2 ай бұрын

The shield in the sand made me laugh. I could just picture the search party desperately flying around slicing up the dunes, and then suddenly the sky lights up and everyone's gone in an instant. The explosion was so devastating that Jessica thought he had used the family atomics at first. Great stuff.

@gwell2118

2 ай бұрын

I''ve noticed they have made no mentioned to the shield and laser effect from the books. Plus the shields in the movie are significantly weaker than the book version. I wonder if they just removed that effect. Which would be fine with me, I always thought it was a silly effect anyway.

I gotta say that having read the novels and watched the two previous screen adaptations multiple times, this is the first time I actually understand how the heck an ornithopter is supposed to work.

0:34 - I can’t get over how much damage he did so quickly. 😂

@morax1030

Жыл бұрын

He spammed the trigger

@magetaaaaaa

2 ай бұрын

Just drives home how competent the Atreides military was. He jumps in the thopter, takes off and immediately goes for the grounded ships to harm their mobility on the battlefield.

@averyangrygringo6440

Ай бұрын

For real ! 💥

@keyabrade1861

19 күн бұрын

Like with Roosevelt and Death, the Harkonnen and Sardukar had to take the Atriedes by surprise, because if they'd been awake there'd've been (far more of) a fight.

I like how he just stands for a second at 00:17 and stares at the remaining Harkonnen waiting for their decision.

I really love the sword fighting in this movie.

@Psevdokranos

2 жыл бұрын

wait to see the upcoming next one in the row mate...noble weapons in the field.

@Adiscretefirm

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe JM found a character that's even more of a badass than Drogo or Conan.

@cesaravegah3787

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Is truly remarkable how they managed to make that choreographies look great and also credibly portrait the nuances of shield combat.

@Neville60001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adiscretefirm, also more of a badass than Ronan Dex ( _Stargate: Atlantis_ ).

@burpbot7555

Жыл бұрын

Are you ppl being serious right now? These sword fights are some of the most bland and low effort I've seen.

1:13 Duncan was a daring pilot, love the detail how the ornithoper's warning signals sound, pushing it to it's areodynamic limits

Unless I'm supposed to infer that the missile striking the vehicle took out his shield it's a really good thing the Shields didn't get hit by the laser. for those who don't know in the book if a laser hits the shield it essentially becomes a nuke and it's incredibly illegal and if the harkonnen family wasnt being protectes by the emperor it would normally lead to the family's obliteration

@RichestTea

Жыл бұрын

I'm actually glad they took that out, as it leads to too many why don't they... There is even some tortured bit from Jessica to Leto about clockwork timers onto shields. It's for me too much to take in, whereas you know the lazer, is just ultimate, but super unweildy, kill.

@MrNegima10

Жыл бұрын

@@RichestTea but its the whole reason for the cqc that we see in the movie. If you remove that reason then all the styles of fighting are for no reason

@stevenflores5988

Жыл бұрын

@@RichestTea Technically, we don't know if Denis left that out. Maybe he'll show or suggest what the lasguns do upon impact of a shield in Part 2. But I do see how much of a breather it must be to not have to follow the rules in the book.

@tbotalpha8133

Жыл бұрын

@@MrNegima10 Dune's worldbuilding is contrived as fuck. I can think of a dozen problems with the swordfighting justification off the top of my head. But I have no problem with it, because I accept that the setting is contrived to fit the story that Frank Herbert was trying to tell. That's true of all fiction, and is an unassailable defence of worldbuilding criticism.

@lachyt5247

Жыл бұрын

Lasgun-shield feedback causes a subatomic detonation, atomics are a different thing which are illegal to use against an enemy but not 'full stop' illegal. A shield explosion would just be an unfortunate accident, or in the case of the books (when Duncan plants a shield to destroy some enemy ships) a legitimate tactic.

I don't know why but I love silhouette/costume design of the Harkonnens

@ChupeTTe

Жыл бұрын

HR Giger based design philosophy

@Sushi_bar

2 ай бұрын

They kinda remind me of gimps lol.. these leather straps and all black. Love it

I love how in those space operas sci fi, everything is so overpowered, look at this massive firepower a single Ornithopter has

@yahoolix

23 күн бұрын

I mean, modern attack helicopters like the ah-64 or ka-52 posses similar capabilities. For instance the former can carry up to 16 anti-tank guided missiles or 4 pods with tens of unguided rockets, while also carrying a heavy canon. So this seems to be about the same as this ornithopter. I’d say in general the weapons in Dune are very well thought out.

0:19 Guys be like: Oh ok you the man, we back off ....

@Lightray110

2 жыл бұрын

They know who he is, and saw what he did. Anyone with any sense would do the same lol

@Adiscretefirm

2 жыл бұрын

"I get paid to kill, not to die"

@nmdgks

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't get paid enough for this sh*t

Harks are not known for their intelligence but here at 0:18 we see some of the brightest minds of the house, 3 men who know not to fuck with Duncan Idaho.

“To hell dogs” then claps his blades together and literally shoo’s them off like dogs

Later on in he'll "Ayyyyyy Duncan whatsup"

@jking-thareal2694

2 жыл бұрын

Damn 😭😭😂

@Artorion

2 жыл бұрын

That shit was cold lmao

Those missiles are way too cool

Seems as Duncan's ornithopter is shielded (as seen from the hit it takes), is it wise that the Harkonnens/Sardaukar are targeting him with a lasgun? Where everyone would go KABOOOOOOM!

@KenS1267

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing. Seems like an odd move.

@p.k._

2 жыл бұрын

1st shot took down the shields, so they could use Lasgun.

@JoshSweetvale

2 жыл бұрын

@@p.k._ That sounds like something the Sardaukar would do. They're lunatics, but _skilled_ lunatics. Training for using a lasgun against a target with a broken shield sounds like their brand of crazy.

@AlcaturMaethor

2 жыл бұрын

KABOOOOOOM! is only one of the possible outcomes and by no means a certainty. You can gamble and hope it will work.

@kash8220

2 жыл бұрын

I mean they literally just bombard the city so I doubt they really care if they nuked it too

The music adds so much to this.

@elishields5990

2 ай бұрын

My favourite part of this masterpiece

I'm glad that the whole shield interaction thing with energy weapons is left more open in this movie than in the original books, because it allows for really cool scenes likes energy weapons being used here or to try to cut through a door to chase after Paul later on in the film.

@rawwad

7 ай бұрын

laser beams in this movie are fired willy nilly. "Nuclear explosion you said? ok, whatever .... fire the lasers!!!"

@echomjp

7 ай бұрын

@@rawwad Where are they fired willy nilly? Pretty much the only time I can recall a laser being used was when chasing down Duncan in this scene (to prevent an escape they probably thought it was worth the risk), and to go after Paul and such. Other than that they weren't really used in battle at all. I figure that the movie simply is taking some liberties with the concept from the book of using energy weapons on shields causing a nuclear explosion, because honestly that idea always was kinda dumb. It seems less dumb in my view for shields to simply be impervious to laser weaponry, therefore encouraging the use of other weapons against those with shields. Though the movie does leave things open to interpretation, which I think is fine.

They were taking a hell of a risk with those lasbeams

The lasguns are pretty terrifying!

@renatoigmed

2 ай бұрын

and very real if they were powerful enough to cut virtually anything.

duncan did more damage that all the last stand of the atriedes. but the same i fell that the battle in the book had to be more long. it was too quick the fall

@potatomasherr

2 жыл бұрын

Wayyyyy to quick -- and there was no Pug :(

@gabrielmoncada8934

2 жыл бұрын

I think why cause it was what's known as a blitzkrieg attack, an attack that's supposed to be a fast coordinated attack that disables the enemy before they can react

@Gryffster

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And the entire time between arriving on Arrakis and the attack was to compressed

@TheBrynoch

Жыл бұрын

That's the benefit of taking down a fixed positions communications and first line defenses. The Doctors part in this assault. If your early warning, standoff and coordination options are defeated before you realize it, you aren't a coordinated defense versus a coordinated offense. The offense is inside before you have time to react, so they pick you off piecemeal while you are still trying to figure out what is going on. If you want a real world model of this, look at D-Day. The Nazis knew an attack was coming and were misled on the location and timing and structure. Additionally, Nazi fixed defenses, logistics and communications were enveloped by the naval batteries and troop deployments by sea and the airborne assaults on strongest defensive points and securing routes to maneuver in. The risk to the offense is that if you are wrong in your initial moves or they are anticipated/poorly coordinated, the offense loses elements of surprise and may be annihilated with minimal loss to the defense. It is an all out commitment on offense.

@Thestaalos

3 ай бұрын

I also agree. It is for me one of the few things that could have made the movie even better - maybe on par with lord of the rings -. I would have loved to have let's say 10/15 minutes more where we can witness the scale of the Harkonnen invasion, the betrayal of Yueh, the despair creeping in. It was still good, but handled way too fast, i couldnt really realize the scale of what was happening. It didnt feel much like a full scale invasion, only a skirmish. I'm pretty sure adding those extra minutes where we see house Atreides fall would have made the rest of the movie more intense. The only other thing that could have been better in my eyes was the way the heat was handled. It should have felt more stressful, more dangerous to roam outside without the stillsuit. It looked more like a cool gadget in the movie than the lifeline it really is. It was good, but could have been better.

TO HELL DOGSSS

Those Harkonnens were terrified of Duncan's Rex Kwan Do training.

That's one of the most terrifying death rays I have ever seen in fiction. It's like Satan heated up a giant rod of rebar and is dragging it across the surface after Duncan.

Duncan was the biggest badass in this movie!

Nothing in this scene looked fake. When he's pressing down on the hydraulics, you hear the servo's and machinery doing its work. All the while this intense music with that deep baseline in the end. The special effects were so seamless, I forget, at times, I was watching a film.

This was one of only two scenes with Lasguns in the first movie; really glad we got to see more compact handheld Lasguns in part 2.

"To hell dogs!" "I want to apologize."

Good swordsman and ace fighter, but does not have sand weakness: This is where the fun begins

His "To HELL dogs!" was a call to come at him and die if they dare...

"To hell dogs." Duncan said calmly

I get chills every time I see this … “TO HELL DOGS” what a badass

“To Hell Dogs” hahaha 🤣 Duncan Idaho is a bad @ss. Loved it, when the other Harkennon just backed off.

One of the best movies ever made! And certainly one of the best adaptations!!!

Imagine being so legendary and your skills so unmatched that a whole ARMY will let you escape just so they don't have to fight you

Love the music and sword fighting here. If this is a preview of what’s to come in part 2, I’m more than hyped.

Duncan Idoho better be back for Dune Messiah.

Minor inaccuracy....on the Dune universe nobody on his right mind would had tried to hit a shielded ship with a laser beam, the interaction of the Holtzman shield with the laser would created subatomic fusion, meaning a continous nuclear explosion all then way from the laser emitter to the shield point of contact...mutually assured destruction.

@ezustnyil8414

11 ай бұрын

Shield was off, he lost it after the missile strike, but that nuke thing is stupid, I wont cry if they leave it out of the movie.

@gwell2118

2 ай бұрын

@@ezustnyil8414 Yeah the film crew and even Denis have said in off hand interviews they found certain elements of the shields (namely its function and whole explosion thing) to be detrimental to adapting the material. The shields function was changed for the movie and they made no mention in either film of the explosion effect. It appears they took that out.

Imagine being such a badass that even the best soldiers in the universe are afraid to fight you?!?! Got Musashi vs 70 vibe "no, you go", "no, you go!"

Love the way Villeueve handled lasguns!

Those guys backing away are the definition of "I'm not getting paid enough for this shit" 😂

HOOOOLY SHIT!!!!! That tropter scene was sheer MASTERPIECE, the 1st shots were amazing. Also you can feel duncan's anger with the disaster, already love this character and is fucking sad he dies so soon, jason has an amazing voice.

Absolutely bad-ass!!! This scene is awesome!!!

if they had just one single scene in that market place, it would have so much difference.

I’m no expert in Dune lore, but wouldn’t it be an exceedingly BAD idea if the Harkonnens had actually struck Duncan’s ornithopter with a lasbeam? I’m given to understand that when a lasbeam strikes one of their shields it creates a reaction not unlike a nuclear blast, either at the source of the shield itself or at the source of the beam. Either way at that range it would kill everyone in the vicinity, including the ship that fired on him.

@Szminsky

2 жыл бұрын

I thought about this as well. Might be explained by it being a “laser-beam” and not a lasgun.

@Kevin-yw5qr

Жыл бұрын

not all nuclear explosions are that massive, it could've been something equivalent to a Davy Crocket which that ship was more than far away from to be fine (even without the shields). The concept is more applicable to ground fights, don't want to shoot a laser at another soldier and level the whole battlefield.

@TalrenHawke

Жыл бұрын

that first shot they hit him with was basically an emp type round designed to wipe out vehicle shields making the lasgun technically safe to use on him although lasering your own city in half on the other hand is a very galaxy brain move imo

@ReMattch

Жыл бұрын

@@TalrenHawke I think that's why Idaho did that little spin at the end before blasting out of Arrakeen. He knows the Harkonnens are dumbasses and would stop at nothing to see him dead hence the laser weapon so Idaho kites the beam around a small section of the city like "Congratulations you've destroyed part of the city you're trying to take back and it's useless to you now, fuck you"

@workingmamma5342

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Would have produced a pseudo-atomic explosion if it hit a shield.

so glad to finally see a lasgun depicted in live action.

Escaping with a bang is good strategy.

I like to think that the lasgun operator wasn't actually trying to hit a shielded vessel (suicide), but was trying to slice up the surroundings in the hopes of burying it.

“THE HELL DOGS!” Shivers 😳

This was an experience in IMAX

Duncan is the good kind of crazy

They're pretty confident they won't hit a shielded person.

@RWZiggy

Жыл бұрын

In the book that was only concern for two people, the shooter and shield wearer would be in the explosion. Maybe aircraft at a distance are fine.

Something tells me that those guys who walked back didn't made it through to the morning

@Leondegrance2

3 ай бұрын

Lasted longer than the guys who walked forward.

Would have been much better with Patrick Stewart cradling a pug. "Back to the neutral zone you dogs! No not you pugsy"

They didn't want ANY of that smoke.

This is one of the few Sci fi movies to actually get close to showing just how destructive advanced weapons would be. One device can take out an entire ship, one ‘thopter is loaded with heavy weapons, and that giant laser beam just cuts through everything.

0:38 I'm gonna assume the ornithopter's shield was disabled and that's why they used a lasgun. Otherwise it's a plothole.

@Ensign_Cthulhu

2 ай бұрын

They use the lasgun to force the thopter to drop its shield. Then it becomes vulnerable to missiles and guns.

@NightWanderer31415

2 ай бұрын

​@@Ensign_Cthulhu in the books, lasguns cannot be used against shields because their interaction basically triggers a nuclear explosion.

@NightWanderer31415

2 ай бұрын

​@@Ensign_Cthulhuoh ok I get you... they want to scare Duncan with the possibility of a nuclear blast if the shield is hit, so he drops it... interesting but also suicidal, no?

@Ensign_Cthulhu

2 ай бұрын

@@NightWanderer31415 I thought that because in the book, a bunch of Fremen hijack an ornithopter and use its lasgun to force a Sardaukar troop carrier to drop its shield as a precaution. Then they ram it, killing all aboard.

Don’t lasguns create a nuclear explosion when they hit shields?

@shalomamigos

2 жыл бұрын

This is why you supervise your interns.

@MrArmystrong85

Жыл бұрын

@@shalomamigos now I’m just imaging some Harkonnen commander rubbing his temples while saying “goddamn it, who put Carl on the lasgun battery? He’s gonna get us all killed.”

@grandpathong

Жыл бұрын

first shot took out the shields.

@RWZiggy

Жыл бұрын

In book it seemed like that was only concern for shielded person and lasgun shooter, it was said they'd be in the explosion. Maybe big lasers on aircraft shooting from distance are fine. Anyway seems like it was tiny fusion explosion that was result, not an Ivy Mike.

@Dorsidwarf

Жыл бұрын

@@RWZiggy Basically how it works is that when a lasgun shoots into a shield, there will be a subatomic explosion (Very bad) SOMEWHERE along the path of the laser beam. So people ALWAYS avoid using lasguns against shielded enemies because that somewhere can be "Inside the laser gun's barrel" and thats a hell of a risk

So it is FINE to use LASGUN on a city filled with shielded troops...

@magetaaaaaa

2 ай бұрын

Even if the thopters shields had been taken down by the missile this is still a good point. They cut up so much of the city trying to get him it would have been trivial to accidentally hit a shielded soldier on the ground.

@gwell2118

2 ай бұрын

The coptors shields were taken down by the stray shot. As for the other point there is no mention of the laser effect for hitting shields in the movies. It might be entirely possible they removed that feature from the story.

You see, i really like this, if you see somebody just do this to your fellow soldier, then unless he just killed your friend ect., you clearly have NO chance to win against him. Who in his right mind, unless brainwashed like sardukars, would even try his luck against such pure and raw force. Its nice little touch of humanity.

This scene is important because las guns are illegal and yet they try to kill Duncan with one.

0:10 to 0:21 shows how Jason Mamoa was good choice for Conan the Barbarian

They ain’t want the smoke

They fire lasers on a shielded thopter. They are absolutely mad!

@sbraypaynt

Жыл бұрын

Seen this a lot, apparently it was unshielded because the holtzman field was overloaded by the missiles that hit Duncan’s thopter.

Can I give a shoutout to how this was the first adaptation that did Duncan Idaho justice?

The real question is, why has it taken so long for movies to get lasers that don't look like trash?

I love how if this was actually book accurate. If the Lazgun hit the thopter's shield it would cause a thermonuclear explosion that would destroy the whole city.

Duncan: "To Hell Dogs!" Me: When I'm walking past a dog park in my gentrified neighborhood...

Duncan himself could wipe out two harkonnen platoons with ease

In the books laser weapons hitting a shield causes a spectacular explosion, an entire Butlerian fleet with shields was destroyed by a Cymek, (human brain in a machine body.)

A laser against a shield ornitopter? Bad decision....

0:46 me when there's a mosquito in the bathroom

I like to call that ship the 'dragonfly ship'.

I actually liked the first movie better.

His name is Pecos Bill 😆 lol ...Duncan IDAHO!

Was this in the film? I don't recall having seen this scene.

They've Stolen The "Hammer of Dawn"!

Imagine these ships existing in real life in 200 years or so, I would rise from my grave and buy one for sure!

If that laze beam would have connected with the shields on the ornithopter, the entire city of Arakeen would have gone Hiroshima.

In Dune lore firing a laser against a shield is a VERY BAD idea.... like NUKE explotion bad idea.

If you slow it down you can see a blue energy bolt hitting his Thopter just after he launches his missiles, but the shield protects him. What is more surprising is that they fire a laser at him later, which is potentially suicidal if that shield is still active. I suppose it's worth the risk to take down this legendary swordmaster, if we accept that not every laser hitting a shield causes a subatomic explosion.

"You wanna muddafuckin PIECE O' DIS?!" Thought I'd translate.

Weird that none of them have shields, I thought it was in-universe explanation for why they use swards in Dune instead of lazers\guns.

@zxjim

4 ай бұрын

Shields weren’t commonly used on Arrakis because their harmonics attracted sandworms. This is from the books and is a valid in-universe explanation why the Harkonnen foot soldiers weren’t equipped.

Normal audience: Oh, its a suspenseful chase. Geek audience: Ohkay, thats a lasgun firing on a shielded ornithopter.. thats a fusion bomb when they combine..

@gwell2118

2 ай бұрын

The shield was taken out just before by the cannon blast.

@mister_needles

Ай бұрын

​@@gwell2118Maaaan. I'm starting to think most moviegoers can't follow visual or sounds cues. I haven't read the books, but I can see the thing hits a freakin building and the shields don't even fizzle. Everything has to be star wars where they scream 'muh shields!'

@gwell2118

Ай бұрын

@@mister_needles it’s a combination of not paying attention to the little details (the dashboard warning, the shields no longer flicking on impacts etc……) and just expecting things to be a certain way. Like you said if something doesn’t explicitly explain something some people can’t follow. Denis is a very subtle filmmaker, he doesn’t like handholding you through scenes but lets things be explained visually. Ironically the opposite of the books which basically went into paragraph long detail of why a particular character coughed. One of the reasons I think some didn’t like him taking on the movie, the book lovers wanted endless exposition and talking about world building. Denis put it all on screen but subtly and visually, forcing you to piece it together yourself.

The one thing I disliked about this movie was its use of laser weapons. As far as I remember, that was a definitive no-no in Dune.

@maeror1022

2 жыл бұрын

Is that because lasers cause enormous explosions if they hit shields?

@ALEXANDER1318

2 жыл бұрын

@@maeror1022 Yes. If a personal shield is hit by a handheld laser, the reaction releases an amoubt of energy similar to a nuke going off. Which is why it would not be a good idea to fire at a shielded ornithopter with a giant ship-mounted laser cannon. This is why they all use knives and the like.

@FreemanicParacusia

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALEXANDER1318 Why not make missiles that just exploit that reaction when they reach their target? Have a laser target a shield generator within the missile casing, cheap nuke.

@Chaplain_Asmodai

2 жыл бұрын

@@FreemanicParacusia because nukes used against humans are so illegal that not even the Emperor can do it without being exterminated

@FPAlpha

2 жыл бұрын

@@FreemanicParacusia Because you'd die too? Mind you - the effect is like a nuke going off so you can't be that far to escape the explosion. In the book Duncan sets a trap for the Sardaukar when he places a shield where he knows the Sardaukar will use a laser to cut through. It has the desired effect.

Watching Duncan Idaho fight, I just assume that all Sardaukar speak with reverence of Duncan Idaho as people speak of the Sardaukar.

Aside from escaping, what all was Duncan trying to do in this scene?

Were the Harkonnens using an energy beam weapon to try and shoot him down? AIR from the books, that was a very bad idea in an area where combatants might be using shields, could have caused a catastrophic explosion.

Harkonnen men are big, mean, ruthless, merciless killing brutes. Taking anyone in the universe 3 or 4 to 1 is a delight to them. Unless they recognise that someone is Duncan fkng Idaho.