DualSense Edge Vs. DualSense Bluetooth Vs Cable - Which One is Faster?
Hi, in this video, we test DualSense Edge Vs. Normal DualSense Bluetooth Input Delay Vs. USB Input Delay to see which is faster and which is the best.
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Timestamps:
00:00 120FPS Test Method Explained
00:25 Mistake I made in past
01:01 How does the Test Work?
01:16 Edge USB Cable Delay test
01:51 6 Test Results
03:18 DualSense Vs. Edge Bluetooth Delay
03:31 DualSense Vs. Edge Cable Delay
03:41 Best Method to use?
03:58 Dual Sense Edge Tips & Tricks (Ready)
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@reshzed4874
Жыл бұрын
hi do the back ports make a difference with delay? since the back ports are super speed 10gbps ports rather than the normal one at the front wouldn’t it be faster
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@reshzed4874 Hi, from the tests I made, no, even the USB 2 port in the front has the same delay (at least in 2 games I tested)
@reshzed4874
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH 60fps game? thx
@reshzed4874
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH you should get a 10gbps 100w usb c to usb c cable and test it see if there’s a difference
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@reshzed4874 The controller does not use such speed from the USB port which you can check on the PC and the data rate is under 400Mb/s so a typical USB 2.1 is more than enough for it, yet the latency was the same from USB 3.2 on the PC
Hi man, first of all great video! Very effective way of measering. But for static reasons you need atleast 8 data points. Preferbly even 10. And within these small numbers that could result in a few milliseconds more or less on the final number.
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I'll consider that for the next time to do at least 10 test and an average for all.
Does the input lag increase if you have a headset plugged into the aux port of the controller? Is it better to use a usb headset or it doesn't matter? Also can we use the usb c port on the ps5 to connect the controller or is it better to use the usb a port on the ps5? Thanks
I’ve been somewhat seriously testing both controllers on Uncharted 4 Multiplayer and the response time and latency seem to virtually be the same on the basic buttons, around 23 ms for both. The Edge has the advantage with the trigger stops and deadzones but a huge downside for me is that the control sticks for the edge seem to be less stable(more sensitive) and feel more flimsy. 🤷🏻♂️
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
I don't think if sticks are different overall but thanks for the info I'll check it when I want to make a review for it!
quick question. for scuf/bb wired connection on ps5 , do you know or are you aware if the input lag is same as edge or should we use wireless for the third party controllers? i have edge but have been using battlebeaver wired in.. just curious if its same polling rate as edge or should we be using wireless ?
Nice, thanks Daniel. Your content is pretty much the essential go-to for my PS5 optimisation 👍 One question - I’ve always preferred USB connection but I’m wondering, does it make any difference if I use my DualSense controllers on USB connection but *without* actually being connected with a USB cable (basically wirelessly using the controller but on USB connection) or does the controllers have to be on USB connection *and* be directly connected to the console with USB to get the benefits of reduced input delay?
@DanielZH
8 ай бұрын
Hi thanks, if you don't select Use USB Cable on Console, it will use Bluetooth, and there will not be any changes, the delay of Bluetooth is also pretty much low, only the idle delay was lower usually, based on the game, I'd also recommend the front USB-C Port or back ports.
Do I have lower input lag playing in PC with wireless compared to this video? I don't want to play wired cause I bought a LG c2 tô play on pc but on bed, what would you suggest?
Thanks for the video Upgraded my busted standard dualsense for the release of Street Fighter 6, then had an heart attack because I forgot to check how the edge performed delay wise This puts me at ease, so thanks for your work
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
YOU ARE THE GOAT
Hello new to the channel. Was wondering if you had similar testing/results for the xbox controller family such as the series x standard and the elite 1/2 controllers.
@DanielZH
23 күн бұрын
Hi, welcome! this test a bit old btw, new videos are accurate, I haven't tested Xbox controllers yet but planning to get them in a few months and start covering them among others.
Top bro keep up
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Great video man! Thanks for doing these tests. I was wondering, do you plan on doing any tests with audio delay? I play r6 a lot, and i noticed a pretty big delay with the audio. I use 3d pulse and i always feel like the audio delay (from the screen to my headphones) is always much slower than the input delay (from my controller to the screen) and maybe you know some tips for that!
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have a video specifically for Audio delay with Pulse 3D Here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYWVuKqOmc2zcag.html
@holamoco
Жыл бұрын
What's r6?
@robindavid369
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH thanks!
@robindavid369
Жыл бұрын
@@holamoco Rainbow Six Siege
Love this, you are amazing 😊❤
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
You too, appreciate it!
Hii, I have been subscribed for a while, any recommendation for the dual sense edge for destiny 2? Which dead zone/sens you recommend?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I haven't tested that game to have specific settings!
I just got my Edge today, plugged it in the pc and had 0.5 ms on ds4windows off the rip (plugged in with the braided wire it came with). Dont think it really matters though when both can get overclocked
@DanielZH
11 ай бұрын
Maybe not much on PC, but on PS5, every game has different priority, sometimes Bluetooth is +30ms delay, so that matters on PS5.
Hi, I was wondering if the normal dual sense controller has the same input delay under 1 ms as the Edge for call of duty games and for the new MW3? I don’t want to waste money on the edge if the normal dual sense controller and the edge both have the same input delay or is the Edge faster? I only play competitive call of duty I would appreciate your feedback!
@DanielZH
8 ай бұрын
Hi, when using Bluetooth, both of them have a similar delay in COD, when using cable, the edge is a little faster (about 3ms).
Very good video so now you gonna drop the video for rainbow six siege, right
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, next video is Edge settings for 8 games and it'll cover rainbow six too!
Hi Daniel! I read that a USB Type-C to Type-C cable reduces the input delay of the DualSense even more, compared to a USB Type-A to Type-C cable. Is this true? Can you do some tests? Thank you for your work 😊 Greetings from Italy! 🙃
@DanielZH
10 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks, as far as I can test (down to 1 ms) both are under 1 ms of idle delay, so I can't be sure if one is faster, but if you feel it is, so it might be! my tools currently can go down to 1ms measurement but from there it becomes unreliable.
Hey Danial, do you have any suggestions to fix stick drift on the stock ps5 controller, I'm trying to avoid buying another one. Thanks.
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi yes! it would cost around $6 - $20 at highest price, here's how: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoOE2ryYhamnZto.html
Which USB port are you using? The 2 in the back or the 1 in the front? And which USB connection (front/back) has the lowest input latency???
@DanielZH
10 ай бұрын
Hi, I used Type C front port last time, but even the USB 2 port has the same delay. no problem
0.5 ms is insane in comparison with the xbox elite 2 that is at ~8 ms. Thank you for the video!
@DanielZH
8 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Remember that's idle delay, every game has a different priority that may cause higher input delay, but one of the fastest games is COD which is usually under 1ms from my tests.
Hello, I wonder what the upper right delay display program or overlay is like :D
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi, that's DS4 windows showing the input delay of controller to the PC.
Did you use high speed usb 3.2 gen 2 cable or just the usb cable that you get with the controllers?
@DanielZH
3 ай бұрын
Hi, the cables that come with the controller support up to 1000Hz, but this video only considered idle input lag, it's not correct, check the latest videos that use a New testing method and is accurate in tests.
When playing with my communications method wired, does it matter if I use the front or back usb port? I'm a little ocd lol
@DanielZH
4 ай бұрын
Based on the latest test I made, no, it doesn't matter.
How is the input delay only .5ms? Does the dualsense edge come with a 2000hz polling rate?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
0.5ms is the idle its usually around 0.65ms, and I don't know about that rate but it is as fast...
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@DanielZH
11 ай бұрын
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@mohsenshahhosseini9758
11 ай бұрын
@@DanielZH اخه جمله بندی و کلمه و اینارو عالی میگی هیچ مکثی نداری همه چی بی نظیره فقط یکم زیاد فارسب طور میگی مثلا گفتی بِلوتوث همون بولوتوث بگی بهتره چه شهری زندگی میکنی؟ ولی واقعا چنلت بی نظیره واقعا عالیه
@DanielZH
11 ай бұрын
شیراز هستم، ممنون@@mohsenshahhosseini9758
@mohsenshahhosseini9758
11 ай бұрын
@@DanielZH 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 عالیه شیراز هم خودت عالی هم چنل عالی هم شهر عالی
@DanielZH
11 ай бұрын
مرسی داداش@@mohsenshahhosseini9758
Hi, did you try turning Bluetooth completely off from the PlayStation settings? Since we use a wired connection on controller so there is no point of having bluetooth on…… but will there be any competitive advantage when turning bluetooth completely off? Some say it helps but am not sure.
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if that would make any difference, I'll test it in the upcoming Edge videos.
@xNNef
Жыл бұрын
Guys believe me when you turning off Bluetooth you will notice something like ,less delay , faster in orders try it out and believe me guys it much faster than turning Bluetooth on
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll check it@@xNNef
@SatorruGojo
Ай бұрын
@@DanielZH is this true?
So if i play on ps5 using the dualsense edge, is it better if i use it wired? Or both are the same
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Wired seems to have less delay than Bluetooth overall.
So it's like an already overclocked controller on PS5. Because I'm going from PC to PS5 and find the input delay not great, the edge would be my best bet ?
@DanielZH
10 ай бұрын
Hi, as far as I tested in multiple games, Edge has less input delay in all cases, so yeah it's faster overall.
@maxlotte
10 ай бұрын
@@DanielZHThanks for the fast response. I’m mainly playing Call Of Duty and coming from PC , PS5 has a massive controller input delay.
@DanielZH
10 ай бұрын
@@maxlotte Compared to PC, yes, however COD is one of the games that has really low input lag for controller in 120Hz mode.
Should i turn off bleuttoth completly or just change it from bleutooth to cable I hope u understand me
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Changing to cable is enough.
For the cable part where u putting the setting on USB cable ON in the settings ?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
In controller settings
It would be cool Sony can make app for Dualsense Edge controller on PC not everyone has a PlayStation 5 sorta to customize the controller & also do you think worth overclocking the Dualsense Edge controller 8,000 Polling rate?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi, you can use DSX application which is around $ 7 USD on steam which gives you great options! and no, with a USB cable doesn't worth it.
@zlltumuertellz5168
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH it’s not worth overclocking the controller?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@zlltumuertellz5168 not for me, but maybe it does for you!
@ryanbridgeman6576
Жыл бұрын
Hey i play on pc with dsx software and my controller feels laggy as hell on warzone 2. I do have it overclocked tp the 8000 poling rate and a wired connection. Should i try running it without overclock. I was thinking maybe dsx was causing input delay but maybe its the overclock
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanbridgeman6576 Hi, typically you don't need OC, what I recommend is setting the DSX as the highest priority for CPU in task manager and that'll fix the issue
can you make a part 2 playing e sports title like fortnite and warzone? and tell a difference
@DanielZH
5 ай бұрын
Hi, I did those tests for both controllers in newer videos, you can check them in this playlist: kzread.info/head/PLfzrQ3H5ECSbtNfbSDgDDP4Y9zLuwDvUw
So we just connect a usb cable to the dualsense controller? Do we need to change communication method to usb cable too or leave it at Bluetooth?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi, you need to change it to USB in the settings.
@SeanDiamondex
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH thank you for swift reply!
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@SeanDiamondex You're welcome!
@Shinnbone13
Жыл бұрын
Have you done any testing of using a USB-C to USB-C cable with the controller? I wonder if it will transfer data even faster.
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
@@Shinnbone13 Hi, that test was with USB 3 ports, which has similar output as Type-C for Edge, USB 2 port is a bit slower.
What software do you use to get the input delay?
@DanielZH
8 ай бұрын
on PC, you can use DS4, for the console, I test it from capture card + input capture and then frame counting between button presses until the reaction happens.
Hi was this done with usb c or regular usb?
@DanielZH
4 күн бұрын
Hi, this test is too old and didn't consider many factors. for idle input delay: DualSense Edge: 1ms USB and 1.5ms avg BT DualSense: 4ms USB and 1.5ms avg BT The in-game delays are affected by many other factors that I test for each game separately nowadays.
hi i need setting 3d for cyberbank
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I don't have this game yet, I'd recommend to try this new EQ and adjust Low/bass a little to get what you like: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJmAm6OGpZnIYLA.html
Hello I play fc24 on ps5 can u give me monitor that have low input delay ? At least 144 hz that have low input lag also at 60 hz? (Fifa run on 60 hz)
@DanielZH
9 ай бұрын
Hi, how much is the budget? I'd recommend checking Rtings.com for Monitors for PS5. they have great articles to check on.
@nevergiveup3421
9 ай бұрын
@DanielZH thanks but I don't know what to look for there..monitor for ps5..or monitor with low input lag..
@nevergiveup3421
9 ай бұрын
@DanielZH I mean which keys word i use? Monitor low input lag rtings or monitor ps5 rtings..?
دانيال نريد مقطع لافضل اعدادات الايم ل call of duty
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
I will make that in future soon
Is the different also on ps5 or just pc
@DanielZH
11 ай бұрын
This is on PS5, PC is being used to count frames and Count ms, the connection is on the PS5
@jamesmorgan7229
11 ай бұрын
@@DanielZH thank you brother
I have Elgato HD60X capture card, does the capture card really cause input delay for the controller?
@DanielZH
Жыл бұрын
Not for the controller, I was recording the screen that's why I considered it when testing
@alekznader
Жыл бұрын
@@DanielZH Ah okay, thanks! Awesome video btw, I love the analysis you do for ps5, haven't seen anyone else do it!
So for apex is there input delay very decreases with this controller like is it even worth the 200 on ps5 for apex
@DanielZH
4 ай бұрын
Hi, Apex now supports 120Hz on PS5, I haven't made input lag tests to confirm, but in other 120Hz games, the difference is typically less than 3ms, in my opinion, it's not worth $200 for 1-3ms lower input lag.
Thank you for your test, but I want to know why the result I got on other KZread channels is that dualsense is different from other controllers, its Bluetooth input lag is smaller than wired connection, and you and this video blogger get two very different results.kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5ynsZebmKW7pM4.htmlsi=kQsCK6K9IGFiWzlg