Drying and fire hardening an elm stave for a selfbow - Bowmaking - Longbow - DIY

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In this video I´m inspired by Thad Beckum of ‪@BeckumOutdoors‬ When he and Keith Shannon are making a bow out of a fresh tree, by drying it over fire an firehardening it afterwards! • From Living Tree to Fi...
‪@clayhayeshunter‬ did the same thing resently, so why shoulden´t I try it too? • How NOT to FIRE HARDEN...
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  • @peterjuulsgaard
    @peterjuulsgaard2 жыл бұрын

    Update! This bow exploded without warning. I think I cooked it to hard and to fast. I’ll let you know when I’ve made another with this method!

  • @Lorenzo-vb1so

    @Lorenzo-vb1so

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nooo, it looked like such a nice bow

  • @j.shorter4716

    @j.shorter4716

    2 жыл бұрын

    How much did you shoot it if you had to guess?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j.shorter4716 a few days. I think when I started to full draw it.

  • @tonymaurice4157

    @tonymaurice4157

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard Do you come across Elm for a heavy war bow?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    No I can’t draw that kind of bows. I dont know if elm can be used for that

  • @BeckumOutdoors
    @BeckumOutdoors3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Peter. Thad Beckum here. I enjoyed your video very much. Well done. I have been watching your channel for a while now. Hope to see more from your channel.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Thad🙏! I’ve been following you for many years man! I actually bought the Full Circle DVD, back in the days.

  • @BeckumOutdoors

    @BeckumOutdoors

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard Wow. Man I wish we could go back in time to when I made Full Circle. Almost twenty years ago. We are not as young but we keep on doing what we love. Bows and arrows are timeless. Keep posting great videos.

  • @busterthompson4520
    @busterthompson45202 жыл бұрын

    Good job this opens doors to the white wood world

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes interesting method. I’m still experimenting once in a while

  • @glenn_r_frank_author
    @glenn_r_frank_author Жыл бұрын

    Your little helper is so cute.

  • @stu89703
    @stu897032 жыл бұрын

    LOVE THE DOG

  • @halfdanlothbrock8587
    @halfdanlothbrock85873 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Peter that's a quick self bow surprised you didn't make a Holmgaard . Thor is a fine helper he knows kom sa 😀 that brought back memories mom was from Aalborg came to the US in 1928 at the age of 6

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching👌

  • @missionman4539
    @missionman45392 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Kansas ! --//---> I’m gonna try this with a piece of hickory

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and good luck

  • @calvinmondrago7397
    @calvinmondrago73973 жыл бұрын

    Respect to you for giving credit to Keith Shannon and Thad Beckum. I's suspect that the East Coast Indians stored their bows in the rafters of their lodges which would be hot and smoky, keeping them dry and powerful? Great video!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Since our historical findings around here where all made of elm. Forexamble the Holmegaard bow and the Møllegabet bow! I suspect the stoneage folks around here to fire dry their staves too. Our climate would make it different to get the moisture under 10%. And they would also starve if they should season a stave 2-3 years! So those guy’s deserve the credit. Thanks for watching

  • @laurentblond6760
    @laurentblond67603 жыл бұрын

    Good job !!!! I'm a Clay Hayes fan and your bow is amazing. 👍👍👍🏹

  • @TightwadTodd
    @TightwadTodd3 жыл бұрын

    Im enjoying seeing folks trying this method and preaching about the benefits of it..I especially like the truth being exposed and vindicating Thad and Kieth,for the Abuse they received on the forums,when they tried to share this method...

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve build some white wood bows over the years, and I have to say: there is a significant difference with this method! One of the main reasons here where I live is the amount of moisture we have in our climate. As you saw, the stave I had seasoned for 2 years still had 16% of moisture in it. Regarding the firehardening: I can feel it getting harder to work with during the tiller proces. Thanks for watching

  • @cretudavid8622
    @cretudavid86223 жыл бұрын

    Your dog is so cute. hopefully he will help you find your deer easier:) Edit: We need a chronograph test on this bow!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually dont have a crono! Sometimes I borrow one in the local club to use in video’s. Feet pr. Sec. Doesen’t mean a lot to me, but one day I might run her through the crono!

  • @ryanbeard1119
    @ryanbeard1119 Жыл бұрын

    That hound of yours is like, "wheres the meat?"

  • @miguelbinha
    @miguelbinha Жыл бұрын

    You just gave me an excellent idea to have those pieces of wood to keep the bow straight!

  • @user-ck8iv8pr4h
    @user-ck8iv8pr4h3 жыл бұрын

    Very good job Peter!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @longbo2771
    @longbo27713 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Peter, I really like your new helper

  • @DUONGBESTDIYANDTECH
    @DUONGBESTDIYANDTECH3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing bow

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Blairrows89
    @Blairrows893 жыл бұрын

    Incredible bow with fine craftsmanship, nicely done and best wishes from Canada :)

  • @scandyoz3292
    @scandyoz32923 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Peter! The Australian sun will do the trick here 🤣

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha😂

  • @kytziaf
    @kytziaf3 жыл бұрын

    Cool man, i plan on doing the same thing to my hickory staves that i harvested

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    If done right, you’ll be impressed by the result!

  • @kytziaf

    @kytziaf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard awesome glad to hear it and see the results. I purchased the dvd just for that reason. Thanks. May your aim be true

  • @romilsonsoares1199
    @romilsonsoares1199 Жыл бұрын

    Top top

  • @bryanthornton6787
    @bryanthornton67873 жыл бұрын

    Great. Now I'm wanting to make a bow.😄

  • @AnonYmous-ii4tc

    @AnonYmous-ii4tc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Time to get started! Just realize you will probably break the first few you make. Then you’re addicted once you get your first one to actually shoot well. Check out Clay Hayes’ older stuff for some great instruction on how to make one.

  • @larryreese6146
    @larryreese61463 жыл бұрын

    Good information from you and Thad. Just recently found his channel. Been keeping up with you and Clay Hays for some time.

  • @TraditionalAdventuresTV
    @TraditionalAdventuresTV3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video Peter! Thanks for sharing!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome, Bill!

  • @arnaulpujol8439
    @arnaulpujol8439 Жыл бұрын

    Muy bueno quedo se endereso vastante saludo de Bs As abrazo

  • @AnonYmous-ii4tc
    @AnonYmous-ii4tc3 жыл бұрын

    Thor is awesome! Very happy for you. Oh yea, great video too. I have also watched the videos you mentioned after finding them from Clay. Yay Archery!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @mzm1011
    @mzm10113 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @erickocovsky1826
    @erickocovsky18263 жыл бұрын

    I like the bow, and the dog !

  • @mariomaxog8117
    @mariomaxog81173 жыл бұрын

    Peter friend you alweys make a good video, you're great. You little friend brings your arrows 🐶👍😁

  • @mattbenson-traditionalarch2992
    @mattbenson-traditionalarch29923 жыл бұрын

    I wish I had your talent. You are good at what you do and thank you for showing this video.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m the one thanking

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut083 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Thor from the Southeast USA!! What a nice dog!!

  • @appalachianarcher7071
    @appalachianarcher70712 жыл бұрын

    Fine job sir! I’m working on a fire hardened black locust

  • @mattswildpointofview5057
    @mattswildpointofview50573 жыл бұрын

    really neat how that trick works!

  • @randymiller5008
    @randymiller50083 жыл бұрын

    Hello Puppy 🐶 😍

  • @lsoutdoors2354
    @lsoutdoors23543 жыл бұрын

    Pretty pup brother!! And wow I didn't know u had to heat treat them thanks for sharing

  • @kurtb.hansen378
    @kurtb.hansen3783 жыл бұрын

    Flot holmegård replica!👍🏻

  • @williamhart8087
    @williamhart80873 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Thanks for sharing.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome! Thanks for watching

  • @jamespendleton6587
    @jamespendleton65873 жыл бұрын

    im a beginner so i kneeded to know this so thank you very much joey

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome

  • @greywolf1606
    @greywolf16063 жыл бұрын

    nice puppy

  • @ThorgrymChasse
    @ThorgrymChasse3 жыл бұрын

    Hello to Thor, my Rottweiller's name's ODIN and my German Shorthaired Pointer girl name's FREYA, loved dogs. Good dog wish him best life. Thanks for the advises for drying a bow (clay hayes technique) :)

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice👌

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne13772 жыл бұрын

    interesting. thank yew.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome

  • @beesmongeese2978
    @beesmongeese29783 жыл бұрын

    You seem like an extraordinarily kind man. Great video, too. And cute dog!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @scottrobertson9452
    @scottrobertson94523 жыл бұрын

    Nice D shape when strung, looks fast too. Good vids, Peter.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @christopherthrower5555
    @christopherthrower55552 жыл бұрын

    Puppies make everything better.

  • @christinenorriss9675
    @christinenorriss96753 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, great video. I to am experimenting with the firehardening process, at present I am making a 54" flatbow from hard maple, I tried one session over the charcoal but didn't quite get the result I was hoping for.I'm starting to realize that you really have to 'cook' that wood, just not really crazy about the burnt wood look! But, if you get those results I guess I can live with it! Have made a proper form and wiil try again.. Cheers from Waikato, New Zealand..

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will also try maple one day. Maybe it can be cooked too much, also. So we need to experiment with it, Thanks for watching

  • @electrominded8372
    @electrominded8372 Жыл бұрын

    You have to split and expose the wooden logs to moving air if you don't intend to smoke them

  • @wesshepherd
    @wesshepherd3 жыл бұрын

    New subscriber--glad I found your channel!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks🙏

  • @zenilton1858
    @zenilton18582 жыл бұрын

    Muito bom amei

  • @michaelh.weiser6502
    @michaelh.weiser65023 жыл бұрын

    Good work, i think👌 And also a nice puppy😍good luck and have fun with the dog training 😉 I'm working with my Lab (1year) and I try also to have enough time to shooting my bow, so...😩 Anyway , always enough time to see tales from the willows 👍🙌😎

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I’m not a dog practice fanatic, though. I just want him to be a good dog😅

  • @michaelh.weiser6502

    @michaelh.weiser6502

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know what you mean😅😅😅

  • @margilvale7648
    @margilvale76483 жыл бұрын

    the chineese and japanees do thaat to the bamboo. the elm bow I made was a noodle, but when heated it was super., and too the elm in my region is light brown.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @jerrycox2058
    @jerrycox20583 жыл бұрын

    I have been making a few Osage bows including a bendy bow which I love. I have some hickory ready and plan to heat treat and fire harden them. The white woods are a little more tricky in some ways but can make great bows. great video again my friend

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @iceblueeyes9455
    @iceblueeyes94552 жыл бұрын

    Them selfbows are fun but handshock and durability is the reason I. Dont take mine when I go to the woods

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s also the durability and efficiency that stops me. I need to many pounds to meet the requirement of our country

  • @iceblueeyes9455

    @iceblueeyes9455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard yes I have to shoot 70 pound english longbow made but the Welshman to get the speed of my 50 pound black widow ma 11 recurve

  • @dvdvdvdfvdfb
    @dvdvdvdfvdfb3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool video and I think yours turned out better than Clay's did! Thanks for sharing.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome

  • @Rowanbows
    @Rowanbows3 жыл бұрын

    It works very good, ive done it with an elm stave ive cut one month before but in winter so the wood was quiet dry. Didnt Crack at all

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice! This was also elm

  • @Daylon91
    @Daylon912 жыл бұрын

    String follow is very normal. Even composite bows get "string follow" even though u can bend them back to straight

  • @thorstenfleck-baustian8775
    @thorstenfleck-baustian87753 жыл бұрын

    Bow barbecue with your new buddy Thor, don’t get much better👍🏹🤠

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha🤣

  • @turnstyles7485
    @turnstyles74853 жыл бұрын

    Thor is a handsome Vizsla, and that's a good looking bow. If you plan to hunt Thor, introduce him to the gun carefully. I once had a big beautiful Vizsla. He was a great pet, but his previous master ruined him as a hunter. He was so gunshy the sight of a shotgun frightened him.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah I will be carefull with gun sounds🙂

  • @cupidocacador4995
    @cupidocacador49953 жыл бұрын

    Top top top........

  • @anibalperez2802
    @anibalperez28023 жыл бұрын

    Maestro mirastes el video de clay Hayes verdad!!? Bonito lazo 👍🏽🏹

  • @michalkral7133
    @michalkral71333 жыл бұрын

    Goood

  • @aleks7114
    @aleks71142 жыл бұрын

    Молодец- супер. Какая скорость твоего лука померь?) И вытяг?

  • @spearsinspines
    @spearsinspines Жыл бұрын

    I once bought a moisture meter for this and then learned you apparently have to drive the pins into the wood the whole way to get accurate readings, so I guess not terribly useful for bows. Maybe they can measure the very outer layer. If you force moisture out with heat you definitely need to allow it to stabilize for a week or two before shooting or its too dry and brittle.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m Only using the moisture meter to compare, not for accurate reading. Yes it helps to let it stay after firehardening. I’ve made a couple more afterwards with greater results.

  • @spearsinspines

    @spearsinspines

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard Thanks looked like a great bow hope you have a great day

  • @peterjuulsgaard
    @peterjuulsgaard3 жыл бұрын

    In this video I´m inspired by Thad Beckum of @BeckumOutdoors When he and Keith Shannon are making a bow out of a fresh tree, by drying it over fire an firehardening it afterwards! kzread.info/dash/bejne/hnuG1qt_eLGniNY.html This wood is elm, Thanks for watching!

  • @boxertechnical
    @boxertechnical2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this! I've seen Thad/Keith's video and Clay's as well, but it's always nice to see another variation! How did you make your form? I'm mainly interested in how you created the curve.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The form is made of an old roof plank! I dont know what it’s called in English, but one of the planks you are laying the roof on top of, on a House . I just worked it with my draw knife until it had the shape

  • @larsx2768
    @larsx27683 жыл бұрын

    Schöner 🐕

  • @lobopropredatorcontrol
    @lobopropredatorcontrol3 жыл бұрын

    Is that a bow you might sinew or rawhide back? Never have fire hardened a bow, gonna have to give that a try! Great video

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s also my first time! It shoulden’t be nessesary to back it, so I’ll just see how it holds up and learn from that

  • @christinenorriss9675
    @christinenorriss96752 жыл бұрын

    What is the backset of that bow now,maybe you have used it a bit and left it strung for longer periods, I ask because I am experimenting with the same process, must say tho I have'nt gone to the stage of actually blackening the wood, maybe I need to!!

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    This bow exploded one day without warning! I actually think I was hardening the wood to much.

  • @josegodoy9160
    @josegodoy91602 жыл бұрын

    Hola cuántas horas se deja tapado con la lona el arco , quedó muy bueno

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, but I dont understand the question

  • @darrenmarney8577
    @darrenmarney85773 жыл бұрын

    Good evening Peter 😃 One consideration & I'm not sure it's applicable for Bows 🤔 The Australian aboriginal community placed their boomerangs & nulla's in clay pits about 2 feet deep & packed the clay ! On top of that was their camp fire for 6 to 9 months & then remove 😃 I would love to trial the concept with a hand shaped bow when i have available time 🤔

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha! I haven’t heard of that before! Good luck

  • @darrenmarney8577

    @darrenmarney8577

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard 🤣 Potentially Peter ! My lifestyle engagement has limitations to several possibilities of projects 🤫 Surfing , Rock climbing & Work only leave Myself with minimal spare time 🙃

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darrenmarney8577 I know it! Only 24 hours pr day!

  • @petervanderbeek9518
    @petervanderbeek95183 жыл бұрын

    Peter you are a primitive archer now what' the name from the dog?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I’m not a primitive archer, I just like to tingle with it😀 Thor sounds better to me than Fido, Rufus etc.

  • @rupertbezuidenhout7455
    @rupertbezuidenhout74553 жыл бұрын

    What was the wood you fire hardened? I am working on a mulberry stave I am. Going to doe the same with

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck. This was elm

  • @randalboatman5996
    @randalboatman59963 жыл бұрын

    Hello peter, how long did you keep that bow under the fire to get that color on the belly part?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    One hour to fire harden it.

  • @alexyatsyuk70
    @alexyatsyuk703 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter. As a user of XC morrison limbs, what can you say about their vibration ? Do the vibrate more then a normal curved limbs?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    They do vibrate more than regular recurve limbs! But limbsavers helps alot, and they are not robbing the speed if placed correct! However one of my buddies have Uukha Irbis limbs, and they don’t vibrate less, than the Morrison.

  • @0987654321mnbvcxzmor
    @0987654321mnbvcxzmor9 ай бұрын

    Don't sand off the dark stuff that is the hard stuff

  • @richardquick826
    @richardquick826 Жыл бұрын

    peter is there another type of glue i can use instead of hide glue? getting to a point where hide glue smells to much. does titebond glue make a supplement

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    Жыл бұрын

    I use Titebond 3

  • @magnoliarepairappliancehom7824
    @magnoliarepairappliancehom782411 ай бұрын

    How did you make your form?

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    11 ай бұрын

    I just made the form with a drawknife.

  • @richardquick826
    @richardquick8262 жыл бұрын

    how fast does the bow shoot? u r ok richard

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    2 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t scaled it

  • @richardquick826

    @richardquick826

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peterjuulsgaard some day let us know,, somewhere around 170 fps? i am curious, that's all

  • @joshuahindle1392
    @joshuahindle13923 жыл бұрын

    What does climatizing the bow do

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, it’s not a good idea to tiller and bend it when it’s still hot! But we can argue about wether it needs to cool down slowly, or fast, I dont know. I just do it slowly

  • @joshuahindle1392

    @joshuahindle1392

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I'm just wondering what it does. I wanted to know if it helps to cool it slowly I'm just Always willing to learn I don't want to argue

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuahindle1392 I can’t say if there is any difference. This is also my first hardening session

  • @joshuahindle1392

    @joshuahindle1392

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @boxertechnical

    @boxertechnical

    2 жыл бұрын

    Were you meaning to ask more generally about why you want the moisture content low before tillering the bow?

  • @Dr._Spamy
    @Dr._Spamy Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't matter how much it "follows the string" beyond the straight line. It matters how much it "follows the string" over all. Bows with "set back" in general are stressed much more than straight bows , so they have to be thinner and wider than a straight bow. It's a false assumption that setting back a bow would help with stringfollow.

  • @peterjuulsgaard

    @peterjuulsgaard

    Жыл бұрын

    No the back set doesent help against string follow, but the firehardening does. The back set helps with performance

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