About to switch to a drop away from a whisker biscuit after 15 years bowhunting. I was kind of lost on making decisions so this video was super helpful. Thanks man!

Yeah, I am pulling the trigger... I am going to try a Hamskea on my 2021 build. Great video! Keep up the epicness

Good information. Good job at explaining the differences.

Really like your videos man. You appear very knowledgeable and are an excellent speaker, which for me, adds a lot of credibility to the videos you make and the subject matter. Just getting back into archery after a 10+ break and finding You Tube to be an incredible resource for information, once you weed through the junk of course. You definitely are at the top of the heap IMO and worth a subscription. Keep up the good work. I don't have a drop away rest but have been thinking about it. I have a few other priorities and want to make sure I am going to stay with it before I drop the dime. This video, like your others, at least provides me with the information I need to make and educated decision. Thanks. AE

@averagejackarchery

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome to hear, Alan! Thanks for tuning in and thanks for the kind words. You can always email me averagejackarchery@gmail.com if you ever have specific questions.

Loving my Trinity on my NXT 31. Very nice, quality rest for sure! Really like the micro adjustments on it

I work in a shop and love the limb driven rests super easy set up and more accurate have never seen one fail yet like the cable rests where they won’t fall only downside is fit I like the integrated rests the gen 7 was my favorite but it was to big on a DLX had to switch to hamskea still am happy with the trinity

i run the qad integrated dovetail on my vxr28 . and the hamskea trinity target pro on my trx7. love em both.

Info is clear and concise!! Outstanding.

@averagejackarchery

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks for sharing Nate. I have been running a whisker biscuit for years now on my 06 PSE that I have had for 14 years. I finally decided to try a fully contained drop away. I was debating between the QAD Ultrarest HDX, a $60 QAD and the Hamskea Primer. I ordered a Black Gold Widow Maker 5 pin left hand and with the $75 in points that I had on GoHunt's shop I was able to get the Hamskea Primer for $55. My cousin has a Hamskea so I figured that he would be able to help me install it, etc... it's a cable actuated rest. Part of me wishes that I would have spent $30 for the Hybrid and got micro tuning and a rubber coated fork among a couple other features. Oh well as long as it's timed right I should be fine. I am using it on my hunting bow 🏹 which will be 30 yards and in mostly, but I would love to go west for pronghorn, mule deer and elk too. Might have to extend my effective range a few yards.

I bought a QAD after watching your review on drop away rests and I am super happy with that purchase. Cheers AJA 🤘🏻

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad I could help!

Ripcord has been making a cable actuated rest for several years. The Ace, Max, etc

Good video. I really like Limb driven rests, at least I shoot better with them and anything that gives me a bit more confidence is worth it, plus it's a ton more fun when you're shooting lights out on the 3d course. Vapor Trail has various models at various price points.

Great vid!

Always great thank you

Please review the sanlida Dragon 10 Flagship and there rest is a cable and/or limb driven it's pretty neat

Just picked up the Vapor Trail Gen 7X on sale for $180 shipped, pretty excited as I've always been a Whisker Biscuit user in the past. I think not just reduced friction, but the micro tuning is a game changer for me.

@BcG3425

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, let do you have an update / review for that Vapor Trail? I'm currently using a WB but I think I want to graduate to something that I can also "fine tune" yet also be reliable out in the field. Thank you in advance! I hope this finds you soon!

I love my vapor trail limb driven. If I break the drive string it's about a minute to fix in the field, can't do that with cable driven.

@nicolaalberti7736

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can, even without a press, but with a limb driven it's easier 👍

How long the arrow is supported adjustability, limb vs cable driven...and is it important?

I use a whisker biscuit now but am getting sick of it ruining my arrows

Will a limb driven rest work on an older bow? I have a 1998 PSE Thunderbolt 4x4 which has a cable actuated drop away that just broke... I've never seen one on that vintage of a bow and know they are getting more common on modern bows with parallel limb. Great video.

Ok first of all wow that is a lot of information about rest.. I don't think I need a rest but I would like to know more about them I have a diamond edge 320 hurting bow package a.k.a All octane parts 😁 I just shoot 3.d targets or normal targets 40 yard and lower what would u use for this bow

Thank you

@averagejackarchery

Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Great T Shirt....

Sweet video All you need to know !!! What do you think about the nock on elevate rest ?

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

I have never used the Nock On things from Dudley and I can't remember actually which major manufacturer produces his line of rests. I want to say Carter but can't recall.

@the_furbearer8166

4 жыл бұрын

Average Jack Archery AAE

One of the main benefits of the limb driven drop away is how long they support the arrow for once fired where as cable activated rest drop's away instantly and is near impossible to tune.

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

I do agree that the limb driven allows you the luxury of finding where on the limb you want to attach the cord. Closest to the limb tip gives you the greatest support for sure! I do have to disagree with the cable activated being near impossible to tune. I've had the ability to work on many, many cable activated rests; both my own and customers' rests they bring to the shop. Tuning has actually been quite simple! Although the ability to quickly move a cinch cord with a drop away instead of a football clamp or pressed into the cable is just the bee's knees.

@tonyallen8626

4 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery so your saying with a bit of practice it's not that hard to get cable driven rest to support the arrow for your desired amount of time

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

No I'm saying I've gotten many cable driven tests to tune beautifully with bareshafts and paper!

Your a hunting public fan too? Nice! But I’ve considered going to a limb driven, I use a whisker biscuit now, I looked last night and it pushes my vanes causing them to bend slightly.. would I have better luck with a limb driven, I’ve got my own little bow shop deal going on. What should I do

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

I always encourage people to shoot a dropaway rest if they're experiencing that fletching contact you're referring to. Either a quality cable or limb rest would well in your application. Just depends on how much money you're willing to fork over for one!

I went with instinct and research when buying a drop away.

Sir; Just an FYI. If you see a cardinal as the first bird of the day, they say it is the reincarnation of a loved one watching over you! " Merry Christmas and God Speed to you and yours".

How about Magne Drop arrow rests ? I never see anyone with a good review

Thoughts on these type of rests for a 20 inch ATA Gearhead? Thoughts on the new Whisker Biscuit Vmax (Ugly, but does it work well)?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Stick with the older WB model. We've had nothing but mixed results with the new, triangular one.

@timothymattson3883

2 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery Decided to go with the Trinity

Hi Jack, what about reliability issues among the three styles, in your opinion? Never used, at this moment, a limb driven, but I've the feeling the cable activated rests are more simple and reliable than the cable actuated ones.. Many years ago I've had bad experiences with a QAD Hunter (the cheapest version of their Ultra Rest), suddenly stopping to drop ☹️..

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you're describing an issue I've experienced many times in the shop! QAD doesn't market their Hunter rest much anymore because they have had and continue to experience issues that you are describing. I've maybe seen one or two of the HDX model in nearly 17 years of shooting go bad. A cable activated definitely does alleviate that though! Certainly sounds like the best option for you!

@nicolaalberti7736

4 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery Thank you for your reply, I'm tempted to try a limb driven, sooner or later, at this moment I think I'll stay with my NAP Apaches and my Apex Attitudes (I've two of both 😁)!!

I have been shooting the QAD for a few years now. all cable actuated with out any issues. Was just looking into the limb driven. So my question with that long of a bus cable is it susceptible to get caught in tree/brush limbs or other other stuff compared to the cable driven.

@averagejackarchery

3 жыл бұрын

I've only ran limb drivers for 2 years but I will say I've had zero issues with the cord.

@brycehiigel235

3 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery thank for the reply. I think I am going to get one put on my bow.

How much adjustment do you have to do from switching trinity target to trinity hunter. I just bought the converision kit but cant find anything you have to do to adjust it other then replacing the blades. So you habe any experience on it?

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

It's just a blade swap! No other weird things to deal with.

Limb driven are the most accurate and easiest to set up.

@kaelangerhardt5651

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Hi, is it appropriate to use drop away rest for target shooting?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! Many many professionals and amateurs alike do it. Myself included.

Any experience with the RipCord Lok? Love limb driven but need the launcher arm to lock in the up right position with minimal arrow movement as I do a lot of spot and stalk here in the swamps hunting hogs. At this time I have the Trophy Taker smack down lock up limb driven rest and I agree the quality has gone downhill the past couple years. Or in your opinion should I go with a cable actuation ?

@averagejackarchery

3 жыл бұрын

If you truly want a full containment rest that will continue to contain even during a bow let down, I would strongly recommend the QAD HDX. I know, not limb driven, but outside of Trophy Taker Lockup, I don't trust any other limb driver to stay up. And as you said, their quality isn't what it used to be.

@BowHunter74

3 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery Thanks for the timely reply! I will probably go back to the QAD , I like the AAE Prophecy but It’s pretty Pricey. Keep up the great work and stay safe!

Hamskea Primer Arrow Rest vs Hamskea Archery Solutions Hybrid Hunter Pro. What exactly is the difference

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Beefier bearinga and design with the Hybrid. Overmolded Y launcher arm on Hybrid. More launcher arm angle adjustment with the Hybrid. Primer is a little louder. It's just a bigger brother with more "fine tuning" options. I used to Primer this year to harvest deer from PA and Indiana. No hiccups. Both are solid, but if the funds are there the Hybrid is worth the overall upgrade IMO.

@VOTEFORHSHADOWS

2 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery thanks I’m trying to decide what to get for my elite terrain

I like my Qad drop away.

How about talking about hunting stabilizers

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

I have a video on choosing a stabilizer. Is there a more specific content about it you'd like touched on?

Just subscribed, let me know if you ever want to hunt in Hawaii

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, as much as it would be fun I'm pretty content on the East Coast. :)

Your argument was that limb driven were better because you can get flex in a cable driven. Dont you see the flaw in that argument ? A limb driven also uses a cable too. Js

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

No no, it flexes the actual cable of the bow, not the cable of the rest. Both limb and cable dropaways use a Dloop like material for their cords. Very very stiff with nearly zero flex or stretch.

I’ll stick with a whisker biscuit. Nothing to go wrong with it

Can’t stand limb driven rests. The amount of times it catches up on stuff when bowhunting drives me nuts.

My RipCord rest must be broken, because it stays up upon letdown. The RipCord rest you show doesn’t look like anything in their current lineup so you’re probably steering people away from them with your content.

What type of stabilizer is on your wife's bow

@averagejackarchery

3 жыл бұрын

30-06 brand I believe. Only one I could find second hand in snow camo.

look like a green screen video

@averagejackarchery

4 жыл бұрын

Lol! It most certainly isn't! Way too much technical work for that.

@primal_inc

4 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery it looked it on the beginning.