HotD has: * a female-led cast, * multiple non-binary actors, * black actors cast in roles that weren’t black in the books, and the same audience that hates the Acolyte, loves HotD. Almost as if its not about identity, its about ideology.

@hansmoleman2666

Ай бұрын

If you like watching slop, sure.

@CarlWheatley-wi2cl

Ай бұрын

Absolutely but it has to be stated (again), that the Velaryon's colour is not defined in the books. At all. People assume they are white from a couple of fanfic art pictures.

@rhodsym643

Ай бұрын

​@@CarlWheatley-wi2cl Page 646 fire and blood and many other pages quite clearly describe their colour. "Skin smooth and pale as winter snow". Don't get me wrong doesn't take me out of the show at all and I still love it but it does break the lore

@abaddon1371

Ай бұрын

I am not really aware of any non-binary characters tbh. There was the gay couple and that's about it, I think (They more or less fullfill the same role as the couple in Braveheart, Longshanks son and his servant)

@incognito9292

Ай бұрын

​@@abaddon1371 op said actors

Don't let this distract you from the fact house of the dragon basically costs as much as Acolyte while looking far better with actual writing and more or less 2x the episode length.

@woodwyrm

Ай бұрын

and the Acolyte costs more than Dune part 2! 🤣🤣🤣

@Touchgrassplz

Ай бұрын

its CRAZY they both have the same budget. One show has given us 8 full-length, 1 hour (sometimes slightly more, but never less) and the other has a 23-30minutes runtime. One has dragons, the other has LED wall. It's insane.

@adamkares7549

Ай бұрын

I can 100% see how HotD would cost $180 Million, even more. You can see it dripping from every frame. Smilo Ren's helmet looks like the got it at a garage sale...

@BurkeanMama

Ай бұрын

House used it's money for actual dragons. No one know what The Acolyte did with its money.

@AdLibTalk

Ай бұрын

The sets and set design, the amazing lighting, the incredible costumes and armour, impressive VFX. House of the Dragon is peak TV.

Who knew a show with diverse casting and 2 female leads is receiving heaps of praise from the very people accused of being multiple forms of “ists” because they mock shows like the Acolyte and Rings of Power. It’s almost like the only thing that distinguishes the former from the latter is good writing and staying thematically faithful to the source material.

@givepaddytheemmy4535

Ай бұрын

@@josegilvano356I mean I wholeheartedly disagree. Making the velaryons black doesn’t really change anything, if anything it just makes the fact that rhaenyras kids are bastards even more obvious, which I prefer. You’re reaching man

@holysecret2

Ай бұрын

@@josegilvano356 All black characters in this are either from a slave background or a seafaring background, which is totally plausible. I'm not sure whether there are specific descriptions of some of these characters in the book that are contradicted. If so, that is of course unfortunate, but they have gone a long way in making it still make sense within the rules of that universe. Certainly, going letter by letter and being absolutely faithful is a value in an of itself, I recognize that, however I laud the showrunners for making any diversity changes in a respectful and skillful manner that does not detract in any way from the believability of the story.

@woodwyrm

Ай бұрын

@@givepaddytheemmy4535 yes it does, there are no black people in Westeros at this time in the history of Ice & Fire and why the fuck would any Valyrians be black, no one outside Sothyoros has set foot in the damn place because, like in real world pre-industrial revolution Africa, it's bleeting lethal; the Velaryons are supposed to be of Valyrian descent and look almost Dornish in complexion, let's face it: House Velaryon being black is only to score ESG points and nothing else.

@DeAngryDan

Ай бұрын

It's not getting heaps of praise off book fans, for god sake westores is suddenly current day California, how can you not see this?? There is forced DEI in EVERY SCENE!

@DeAngryDan

Ай бұрын

​@@josegilvano356thank you 👍 finally I'm seeing sensors in the comments section, I can't understand the hypocrisy.. they will rightfully criticise ring's of power yet house of DEI gets a pass?By the way who is the dei lord hanging out with the king? Nobody care to actually answer that question? What house is he because are we not supposed to see colour,if so then why create summer islanders

At this point, the true surprise and subversion is that Rhaenyra when her life was menaced did not get a sword and defeat both twins and save herself like a girl boss.

@senister14

Ай бұрын

But the show messed up blood and cheese to make her look good.

@edgardoMurnia

29 күн бұрын

The fact that you don't see the BLATANT feminism of the show is baffling.

@randomhuman97

28 күн бұрын

​@senister14 😂😂lol no. . . Blood and cheese is just a 3rd person narration of an event and that was not told by the one who witnessed it

@senister14

28 күн бұрын

@@randomhuman97 but all the people agreed on something like this happening, we even knew there was a 3rd child that the show cut because there's records of something bad happening.

@smittyDXPS3

27 күн бұрын

​@@edgardoMurnia The blatant feminism of two women leading an entire continent to the most bloody civil war its ever seen therefore proving a woman shouldn't rule is feminist to you?

Whether you are team Black or team Green, we are all team Helaena

@ottomaticallyawesome

Ай бұрын

Facts! Poor girl.

@brianwalsh1339

Ай бұрын

Yup. She did not deserve what happened to her.

@johndarksouls4566

Ай бұрын

True

@mathualuisy1604

Ай бұрын

​@@brianwalsh1339a real Targaryen mother would have tried to fight them off!! 🗡️

@tanithjohnson2802

Ай бұрын

I just hope that house of the Dragon has a final point where they kill each other

HOTD has multiple female leads, several non-binary actors, and a major House race swapped and not a single person is upset with it. Why? Because they didn't beat the audience over the head with any of these concepts. They stayed true to the world and true to the story and that's what matters.

@Strega4646

Ай бұрын

Agree… The actors and actresses are pretty low key and they just focus on sharing the story, their experience on set and laugh together.

@CodLiverOil8

29 күн бұрын

Non binary actors 😂 they are woman who change pronouns to be cool and edgy 🤦🏻‍♀️

@shuturmouthkeeptlkn9384

26 күн бұрын

Wait u til their season 3 and 4 contracts lol

@marius7133

23 күн бұрын

May I ask who the non-binary actors other than Emma D'Arcy are? I can't seem to find that info. I agree with your overall point btw.

@CodLiverOil8

23 күн бұрын

@@StriderDSC a.k.a women who want to sound cool saying they have different pronouns 😂

The stark contrast between House of the Dragon & the Acolyte (or Rings of Power, She Hulk, the Witcher, etc, etc) is easy to understand...One is created by people who want to tell a good story & entertain the consumers, and the others are created by people who just want to preach their political ideology to the consumers. And its so easy to tell the difference.

Cristin Cole actor is amazing he’s doing a great job making me hate his character. Haven’t felt like that since Ramsey.

@hdheh1582

Ай бұрын

the actor is getting a lot of abuse unfortunately, it’s a shame some stupid people can’t separate an actor from a character

@RavenclawDaisy95

Ай бұрын

​@@hdheh1582 oh no, not this again. Fuck those people.

@kreed4480

Ай бұрын

I love to hate his character lol

@margarethmichelina5146

Ай бұрын

Dude is the perfect definition of "How to fail upwards"

@btw_i_use_arch

Ай бұрын

I disliked Cole in Season 1 but I outright hate him in Season 2. Part of it is the great performance. Part of it, I think, is also due to the fact that Cole's character is far too common. I've dealt with people like Cole, but can't really say I've dealt with someone like Ramsey. Cole made a mistake not ensuring Helena had a sworn bodyguard. He pushed the blame onto his subordinate who had been doing the right thing, watching the drunken king while he was with company (far more at risk than the queen and her children in their bedchambers). Cole's method of righting with his own mistake is forcing an impossible task onto a subordinate. There are so many terrible managers like that, it is very real. I look forward to Cole's demise in the show.

The argument scene in episode 2 was the best piece of theater and drama I have seen in a LONG time. Truly jaw dropping performance

The drinker nailed the point. It's a solid performance with a good mature actor and script. An Mauler pointed out the maturity of the character. Disney doesn't want that mature seasoned wisdom. It's in their writing room, it's in their directors, it's in their actors. All are those impetuous children going off half cooked, trying to push the message and not developing a good story setting up the "why" audiences should even care.

@eyespy3001

28 күн бұрын

It’s almost as if one show is intended for adults and the other is intended for children…

@GaminHasard

28 күн бұрын

@@eyespy3001even a show intended for children can be amazing quality and with universal message.

As for the scene with the twins in House of Dragon, they were proper characters and there was a proper build up for the part. Their motivations were clear, they did not contradict their personalities and beliefs with nonsensical acts. Even though the outcome could have been guessed, it was heart breaking to see it unfold.

Funny how Disney calls people Racist for hating Acolyte when House of rhe dragon is getting love.

@toshtao1

Ай бұрын

The reason why HOTD gets a pass when it comes to DEI is because the show is good. Same goes for the Spider-Verse films. If it's good, it's not woke. If it's bad, the wokeness is the reason it's bad. Incel logic.

@vineetdesai6396

Ай бұрын

@@toshtao1 well, then put scripts first.

@jabrockobiden9434

Ай бұрын

Incel is a female word, forgive your mama

@tillyt4054

Ай бұрын

@@toshtao1Stop making a total fool of yourself, HOTD is a good show because its used actors and writers based on TALENT not immutable characteristics , How can you argue liking a quality show like HOTD is incel logic ? I’m a mixed race female, Am I an Incel ? BTW just looking at Drinker I can tell he gets far more bedroom action than a Beta like you 😂😂😂😂

@margarethmichelina5146

Ай бұрын

And when HOTD was premiered, anyone who is the book readers raged to see the Velaryons are Black with Horrible White Wigs. But when the show premiered, they praised it and even not care about the race of the Velaryons anymore. Even the chemistry between the actors of Rhaenys and Corlys are so good and natural, they're ultimate couple goals who support each others.

The twin confusion in HOTD didn't drag, lasted only long enough for the plan to almost work. Good scene.

I'm thoroughly enjoying HOTD S2. I haven't read the books it's based on, so I can't judge it as an adaptation, but as an isolated product in a vacuum, it's stellar. That scene with Daemon and Rhaenyra felt borderline Shakesperean.

@goulddc

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I always say that about GoT and HoD, and it's largely due to GRRM's brilliance as a storyteller: as close to Shakespearean tragedy that I've seen in any modern productions. As for the source material, given the weird way that the book is read, the differences between this adaptation and the books actually *enhances* the relationship between this and the book. Totally worth checking out as it's own thing, and the TV show does justice to the book, even though there are differences.

@frankgesuele6298

Ай бұрын

Daemon should have used The Faceless Men.

@whatisreddin7367

29 күн бұрын

terrible adaptation but still great acting and visuals

The argument between Rhaenyra and Daemon was a perfect example of great character writing. So rare to see a man and woman have a smart back and forth, with both sides making fair points and getting in jabs. Plus the danger of potentially provoking Daemon’s wrath. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, more so than any Disney action scene could achieve

@adamkares7549

Ай бұрын

Emma D'Arcy is nailing it. Rhaenyra always acts like Daemon might kill her for what she says, and he might

@LifeTheUniverseAndEverything42

Ай бұрын

@@adamkares7549 He is convinced the crown should be his and the king can do whatever he wants to. Matt is doing a spectacular acting job.

@margarethmichelina5146

Ай бұрын

It's like watching your parents are arguing

Who knew that having a good script and likable character makes for a good enjoyable TV show Edit: Okay an actual script not likable characters I was mainly talking about the media as a whole not just HOTD

@Eleriol84

Ай бұрын

my chock is immesurable

@Lothnar5070

Ай бұрын

Yeah HOTD isn't that for me, it's boring and bland.

@ThaBeatConductor

Ай бұрын

Which character is likeable? They are all awful people.

@johndarksouls4566

Ай бұрын

Seriously⁉️Rhrenerea Is a Hoe and Aegon is a Dumbass, How are they likable? (I am a Daemon Fanboy)

@devoid4661

Ай бұрын

​@@ThaBeatConductor compelling seems a better word

I've been waiting for The Drinker on HotD! I'm loving it so far. Y'all don't understand how nostalgic I got season two episode one. I listened to the full intro, and I never do that. So good!

@mathualuisy1604

Ай бұрын

Is your name a Hightower shout out!? Haha

@ottomaticallyawesome

Ай бұрын

@@mathualuisy1604 haha lol, no. It’s from Otto Von Bismarck, the first chancellor of the German Empire, combined ‘Auto’matically. The Awesome is from my first channel name, Manny the Awesome lol.

It’s been pointed out recently that the Acolyte was written like a Disney Teen Drama…maybe that’s what Disney thinks Star Wars is? Meanwhile, HOTD is giving masterclasses on set up and payoff.

@kevinmccabe7263

Ай бұрын

I love Greg Owen, his videos are great!

@FelixDeluna

Ай бұрын

@@kevinmccabe7263for sure

@TheMysteryDriver

Ай бұрын

Star Wars was written for children. So it makes sense.

@kevinmccabe7263

Ай бұрын

@@TheMysteryDriver I mean not really, Star Wars was written for families so it was meant to appeal to children AND adults. Not Disney Star Wars though.

@FelixDeluna

Ай бұрын

@@TheMysteryDriver I’ve heard that argument before and it certainly holds water as GL began pivoting to things like Ewoks in Jedi and some of the lighthearted elements in the prequels. I would argue however that at the very least, they didn’t consider their audience to be straight up idiots as many of the ideas were taken from westerns and samurai films. The dialogue wasn’t exactly Shakespeare, but it wasn’t anywhere as bad as the dialogue in the Acolyte. They’re a few clicks above saying “the force is bussin yo, no cap”.

Just goes to show that the audience is welcome to diverse casting and a female lead when the writing isn’t absolute garbage. Justify that Disney

Matt Daemon Targaryen !!

@johndarksouls4566

Ай бұрын

THE GOAT

The acting and dialogue in House of the dragon is levels above the acolyte it cant even be compared.

When Aegon says “Dad is gone” and Otto looks right into the camera and said “Yes, and we are all the poorer for it.” The writers acknowledging that Paddy’s absence is felt so much is such a nice touch. Season 2 has been great but I miss Paddy. This and The Expanse are perfect examples of how to have very “progressive***” themes but are written so well and the characters are so real it just works.

@CodLiverOil8

29 күн бұрын

What progressive themes?

As much as I hated Season 8 of Game Of Thrones, I f-ing love House Of The Dragon!!! It's just so well written, acted, directed. Strong characters, male and female, different skin-tones. Not at the expense of others. It's just seemless and works perfectly within the framework of the worldbuilding. This is how you do it.

@sexistspaghettios

Ай бұрын

​@@josegilvano356 Yarp! They think because it says "inclusion," it can't exclude.

@sexistspaghettios

Ай бұрын

While HOTD isn't anywhere near as good as the beginning of GOT, it's certainly serviceable and hopefully doesn't go the way of the later GOT seasons.

I hear a lot of people saying its slow but I rather it be slow than a fast pace storytelling wear I can't just digest what's happening and just wanting action. I want to know the characters even if the character is going to die the next scene.

@Cinephileofmany

Ай бұрын

Slow and steady wins the race with GOt’s and HotD. The pay offs are better that way because the what’s and the why’s e.g. why do I care? are answered up front.

@edelmantoamendola

Ай бұрын

I thought last season was a little slow but still good. This one I've liked much more so far. And yes, the character development they've done makes the stakes feel much higher than most shows.

@Tropical_Toucan

Ай бұрын

I agree, not everything has to be fast and action packed. I understand the comments but personally I haven't found the pacing problematic at all. I'm engaged and interested throughout when watching. It's definitely slow in some places but it's still dense, we're getting so much character development, world building, etc.

You feel absolutely heart broken for Helena being dragged through this whole thing. I even felt for Aegon too, him in the cells was actually satisfying and relatable even for a character i dont like.

This show reminds me a lot of Hatfields & McCoys, worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Hard to pin blame on anyone but both sides making mistakes and escalating the conflict more and more.

I'm guessing snarky didn't watch it. I can't imagine her not chiming in otherwise.

@JustTooDamnHonest

Ай бұрын

She is taking it all in. That is what is called listen and learn.

@Zevrael

Ай бұрын

@@JustTooDamnHonest She wouldn't be on the show if they didn't think she could contribute meaningfully.

@JustTooDamnHonest

Ай бұрын

@@Zevrael I know that and she spoke up when the acolyte was the talking point and then when HOTD came up she was just listening and that is still a good thing for you are learning about something new. Each person contributed something in their own way. X-Ray Girl barely talks during Friday Night Tights and yet she does contributes as well.

@thenecrophymm6591

Ай бұрын

This is a clip from part of a larger show. She had plenty to say on the Acolyte. I assume they spoke prior to the the show, and knew she didn't have anything to contribute, thus the guys didn't ask her directly at any point and put her on the spot. These guys know what they are doing.

@JustTooDamnHonest

Ай бұрын

@@thenecrophymm6591 Yes and they actually can read the room and are actually respectful when it comes to the guests or other hosts.

You've got a fan in me, keep 'em coming!

One thing you can definitely say about Dragonstone and Kings Landing. There security definitely needs work. So many people are getting in, it’s almost like the US border

Interesting thing to think about: HOD is about horrors of civil war, all the bad stuff which happens when the wrong people are making decisions, about manipulating public opinion (especially ep2), love, sex and people opinion about it, and, of course, women's rights - with maybe bigger focus on the last then was needed and/or intended by the author. Not to mention, they're changed some parts of the story from being rumors to obvious reality to show this sideline about Leynor Velarion sexual orientation. And what things from that list are not about the world we live in today? 🤔 But even though the show is heavily infiltrated by modern world situation, we still like it and even praising the show for this aspect! So why we like HOD, but don't like Acolyte? Because they're showing the things they want to talk about instead of just giving you the answers, so you can think with your own head about things. Also, all the topics are natural parts of the story and the world, so if you don't want to think about reality you can just focus on the fictional world. At the same time Acolyte just throwing all the "correct" options about everything right in your face and you can't focus on the fictional world in this situation because the world is badly written, lacking details and logic, and lots of other stuff which is making fictional world alive....

Beautiful analysis of season 2 HOD. What you are discussing is the bedrock of any epic show that hopes to have a modicum of success. HOD builds their characters, provides intrigue, allows you to love or despise a character because of the core of that character, not theatrics. Excellent discussion.

It's kind of nice that you guys are able to talk about something that's actually good!

House of the Dragon has been excellent to me. The acting, the visuals, and the story has been very good. Shame we won't get a Star Wars show on the same level anytime soon.

@jammyjamjars6995

Ай бұрын

If Andor season 2 is as good as Season 1 and the creators dip out, it will be such a thorn in Disneys side that they had the talent to create great Star Wars shows but lost them cause they wouldn’t support them over the likes of Filoni

@justlivin2499

Ай бұрын

Andor season 2 is the only one that has a chance cause the Showrunner and writer knows what’s he’s doing

The power of negativity is so great that even when taking, praising a new TV shows inevitably comparisons swing towards a shitty show. Rarely does it get compared to another good show or one even better, I guess that’s rare.

would have loved to hear more of what Snarky Jay though of House Of the Dragon! I love season 1 and I'm loving season 2 so far!

@CharlesAnyomitse1995

Ай бұрын

I don't think she's watched it.

I remember when Babylon 5 was on the air and there was an interview with its creator, J Michael Straczynski. JMS pointed out that the declaration of war doesn't lead to immediate fighting. There's planning and logistics. There's politics.

Great writing, good acting, costumes, props, set design & some beautiful visuals. Wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much as I am, I'm an old school book fan that was still pretty pissed at how they handled things after season 4, only gave it a shot was because of Gary, Mauler & Shad but it's legit one of the best shows of the last 5 years. Never thought I'd be hyped up for an ASOIAF show again

@CalebMay-bf1ci

Ай бұрын

Its the best story they could have followed up with and its a complete story fully written big budget fantastic actors sky is the limit

@ViolentMessiah666

Ай бұрын

@@CalebMay-bf1ci I think Aegon's Conquest would've been a better choice. It's just as fully written as the Dance of The Dragons with better characters & overall it's more interesting imo, the Dance is mostly shitty people doing shitty things to each other & it all goes to hell, there aren't any "good guys" to really root for like there was in the Stark/Lannister feud. Seeing the lords & petty kings of Westeros having to deal with dragons for the first time, knowing about the reputation of Old Valyria but not having had much contact with them over the millennia (Dragonstone was only built as a trading outpost 200 years earlier) to the last of the Dragonlords invading & taking over would've been a better story imo

MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR HOTD S2 I’m actually floored by how well S2 is carrying the torch. I was on the edge of my seat during A(E)rryk-brawl which rarely happens for me during fight scenes. It had a similar effect that the fights in the OG Star Wars trilogy where they were very slow moving, not flashy and grand scale, but insanely emotionally charged. And it did not shy away from the GoT brutality. It was also good writing to have nobody be able to help because they didn’t know which brother was which so you just had to root for your side whether you’re Team Black or Team Green. Other than that, I’m a little disappointed by the fan reaction to Blood and Cheese. I saw some people disappointed on how they didn’t show any gore during the scene and honestly it makes me a little sick. Like you wanted to show a toddler being decapitated in his crib while his mother cradles her remaining child, running to just escape with their lives? Idk I feel like it was plenty brutal. And I don’t mind the deviation from the book. I feel like they have enough going on already without making Maelor resents his mom plot line as well because they’ve already given Helaena a very interesting new look. But at the end of it, so far HOTD2 has some phenomenal acting, amazing sets, and writing that puts the Acolyte to abysmal shame. Take notes Disney.

@leonrobinson8180

16 күн бұрын

I hoped that they would've made Helena choose, but other than that Blood and Cheese was fine. They had to find a workaround regarding child actor laws and brutality. Plus the crying, the cracking of bone and air leaving the lungs made my heart stop.

I feel like the relationship between house of the dragon and game of thrones is a lot like the relationship between legend of Korra and Avatar the last Airbender. It's not as good, has some concerns, but in the end it's a worthy addition to the franchise.

Loving this show for quite sometime now I have not had that feeling of can't wait for Sunday, and actually watch discussions and theories, and comparison to books,etc.

Does SnarkyJay not watch HoD? Not a single word.

@billjames8036

Ай бұрын

@rogerw3818 She is just there to look good, nothing else to add.

I'm trying to wait until the full season is out and watch it then, (which is supposed to be in the 1st week of August), but you guys are being so enthusiastic about the show that I might just start watching it now.

Saw the first episode so far; absolutely fantastic acting.

My problem so far is a feeling of a lack of pacing and tension, even when several situations are definitely meant to be stressful, almost as if the people behind it are deliberately toning this aspect down, turning the show into a blander version of what it could/should be. I think this may have to do with the direction, the editing and also the quasi absence of musical effects during scenes especially meetings / dialogue scenes (remember for example GoT S3E10 the small council after the red wedding, when Jeoffrey violently criticizes Tywin and all the characters shut up, we hear a subtle sound rising in the background, illustrating the uncertainty and danger of the situation. We have so many examples like this in GoT and it definitely helps to give rhythm to the series and to convey emotions, while in HoTD the music is barely present outside of the transitions (and a lot with a piano which is a "soft" instrument, while in GoT we had a lot more string instruments rising tension)...it's definitely missing in HoTD and several times it took me out of the scene. Also, I hope at some point the female characters, especially Rhaenyra, will show some flaws (outside adultery), like impatience or some inclination to violence, because until now, it's as if they were described as only rational, peaceful, altruistic, not interested in power except for the prophecy, always seeing the long term,... so that men are portrayed as power-hungry, seeing the short term (except Otto who is more a machiavel) stupid...

@ThaBeatConductor

Ай бұрын

Glad someone else besides me noticed the lack of sound design. Really really drags the show down. Combine that with no interesting camera work and the viewer being in essentially the same setting the whole time, makes for a very boring show. No matter how well produced or scripted. Its why the Ice Wall scene stood out so much. Felt like proper grandness. But then we were stuck in stone walls again.

@reginaphalange9417

Ай бұрын

​@@ThaBeatConductor"sound design"'that's the good term indeed (english is not my mother tongue) the lack is more blatant compared to GoT where it was very developed and matching the situation and also the characters and locations

@reginaphalange9417

Ай бұрын

another thing I hope to see more is some drops of (dark) humor here and there, GoT had some hilarious moments in the middle of drama and war

@ThaBeatConductor

Ай бұрын

@@reginaphalange9417 It's a strange choice to make something that is supposed to be ramping tension be so dry and bland. I agree with the humor part too.

The reason why it looks so good is because they actually spend their millions on massive sets, that they then add on to as they get more money year after year. Watching their behind the scenes show on how it’s made is wild

Poignant hearing the guy with the Irish accent (Despot) talking about "family against family".

A great example of good writing is a scene from The Gentlemen tv series where the Groundskeeper talks to his illegitimate daughter without him saying he is her father and without her saying she is his daughter. But the audience knows that they both know from acting and like a Taboo game of don’t explain. HOTD is the same

@LifeTheUniverseAndEverything42

Ай бұрын

I've really enjoyed that show as well. I got another autograph from Giancarlo Esposito recently. Very cool guy!

I saw ozzymanreviews reviewed the whole season 1 of HoD and after that I had to go watch this show.. it was awesome

House of the Dragon doesn't begin to touch peak Game of Thrones, but it doesn't have to be to be a decent show. And in this media landscape, I'll take decent over the sludge that other studios are trying to guilt trip me into watching.

@nathangibson2114

Ай бұрын

we will probably never see anything like season one through three of Game of Thrones ever again. It was the best TV show ever made at that point.

@idawg7332

Ай бұрын

I’d say hotd is on the level of the better parts of season 5 and 6 of GOT which is pretty good

@SleepyFen

Ай бұрын

@@idawg7332 Fully agree.

@holysecret2

Ай бұрын

I would say peak HOTD does "begin" to touch GoT. But peak GoT is of course hard to live up to. Though maybe it's not even healthy to feel so beholden to meeting that expectation, because who knows how much of that goes into certain changes and quotas around "big epic battle scenes" and "dramatic close-up character shots" that are attempting to artificially induce similar hype moments without laying any of the groundwork. It may be best left to the organic growth and development of any given story and characters. HOTD could go without a fault from this point and potentially still not reach peak GoT simply due to the nature of the story and character dynamics. One perfect story may not live up to another perfect story that simply happens to strike a chord with the audience or the zeitgeist, it may have a particular character journey or core message that is especially moving or relatable, or happens to be during the time of release. Additionally, HOTD does bear the challenge of juggling all these very flawed characters, where both sides are essentially corrupt, or increasingly becoming it, not to mention the... particular family dynamics.

@joebeast15

Ай бұрын

I don’t know about that, id say it’s on par at least. Its been pretty dang good

Hey Snarky Jay! So glad she's made it into this circle.

For the quality of the visuals the cgi is only part of it. The lighting designer complimented by amazing set design makes this show look fucking amazing

There are a few good shows out there; I think I'll binge House of the Dragon. 🎉

@nathangibson2114

Ай бұрын

An excellent idea.

Going from season 4 of the boys to HotD is so night and day its practically blinding

@kevinodonnell3216

Ай бұрын

Yeah the boys season 4 is pretty bad

@randomhuman97

28 күн бұрын

No it ain't 😂😂 . . Ep 4 was the best. Karl and Anthony were simply amazing 👏🏼 🤩

@devoid4661

26 күн бұрын

@@randomhuman97 thats the actors and as great as they are still can't carry the entire show on their backs

My favorite part of that scene with Otto Hightower comes from the context. He spent the better part of 20 years meticulously scheming, but within two weeks of his plans coming to fruition, he realizes "Ahh, shit, this was a mistake."

Enjoying the season so far

About Acolyte - I find Mae's secret is pretty clearly something along the lines of "squid game guy is the true master of Sith". How surprising. Otherwise there would be no way Jedi Council did not know about them in PM. Then again, it's Acolyte, so I might be wrong.

Really wish you guys would discuss some more shows like Dark Matter, which was amazing.

Idk. Still hoping it gets better. Every episode so far ends with characters sneaking into high security areas and not getting caught immediately

The end part of the vid makes it sound like Aegon wanted the throne and pushed for war. I thought he was reluctant to claim the throne and was willing to support Rhaeynera but Alicent convinced him to claim it, saying Rhaenyra would reward his loyalty with death to remove a potential rival. Haven't seen the show yet so i could be wrong, but are they changing the lore from the books?

Just watched the new episode of House of Dragons once again it was superb far better it mostly dialogue and it keeps you in the story

@Noone91875

26 күн бұрын

Next ep is gonna be carnage.

I don't know if I can enjoy house of the dragon if they keep playing favorites.

Weather your team green or black, we are all still waiting for the dragons to fight

Why can’t I find the full stream and only clips????

@dude1988

Ай бұрын

Clips are posted first. Then he posts the entire episode. Should be available within a couple of days.

@SleepyFen

Ай бұрын

@@dude1988 You can still watch the full show if you have the original link. It's just privated for the moment to give the clips a chance in the algorithm.

@seeksolace2059

Ай бұрын

​@@SleepyFenpost the link bro 😂

@SleepyFen

Ай бұрын

@@seeksolace2059 Don't have it, but I regularly save the stream to a private playlist while it's live to use it as a podcast while commuting on the following days. He's been privating live streams to upload clips before re-publicizing the stream like this for a while.

My biggest concern still persist, how long it takes until it got cancelled

season 2 is brilliant almost on par with the later episodes of season 1 (plus don't worry there are some major battles and dragon fights coming this season)

Pretty good? I thought it was the best thing I’ve watched in soooo long!!! Loving it so far!

Im team Good TV. House of the Dragon is both well done and amazing in that it has resurrected a franchise that was stone dead and hated, which was deserved after the disaster of Season 8. Disney meanwhile just can't understand how this is massively successful, and their gay victim power fantasy porn is not. S2 seems to have learned from S1s mistakes, we could be on something special here.

When care in production design, character development and overall narrative is emphasized over the ideologies and politics, you have something special. I'm excited for season 2 thus far. Some hiccups but overall, I'm sold and immersed.

Funny how when one is made with love and respect can do infinity better than the one thats made out of disdain and no respect. Its a night and day difference to say the least. HotD is excellent television with stellar acting, writing, costumes, set designs, characters, direction and cinematography.

Season 2 is decent. The writers and show runners are wasting as many frames as they can rather than maximizing run times. I do agree it looks good, and the base story is really good, but I am watching The Sopranos for the first time right now and the thing that jumps out to me so far in Season 1....zero waste in setups and payoffs. At least compared to shows these days.

I saw another video that explained how they made the Dragonstone sets interconnected so they could really film walking between rooms

It doesn’t matter what team you are on for in the end neither of them were meant to rule and every action that is taken will all ways be in the name of the Black Queen or Green King. So in other words war is inevitable and the only thing I feel sorry for are the dragons themselves.

Hearing people are saying it’s slow, I’m not complaining, I also haven’t read much of the books/lore so have not nothing to compare it to but I’m loving it

I spent the last week catching up on HoTD from Season 1 because I completely passed on it - thinking that GoT damaged any desire to revisit that world. And then someone happened to mention Paddy Considine is in it and I was like, Hmmmm. After 3 episodes, I was totally hooked and now I'm completely on board. It's actually overwhelming to experience a top shelf production again. This is a series where I want to re-watch each episode to enjoy the minutiae of fucking dialogue - because even there, the dialogue is just outstanding!! Everything is just a sumptuous feast!

First episode reminded me that Martin can be exceptional.

I'm worried this show isn't going anywhere

@rohanasuthkar9543

Ай бұрын

IT’S literally the dance of Dragons. And the extinction of the bloodlines. It is most definitely building up to an incredible finale

@CodLiverOil8

29 күн бұрын

​@@rohanasuthkar9543but first 4 seasons of talking about how war can be prevented 😂

Team green all the way!!!!!

Unpopular opinion but since hadn't occurred to me to rewatch in the off season, i forgot about it. Excepting Daemon and viserys, i didn't give the characters much of a second thought, unlike GOT, which I watched to death.

Where is the corresponding "open bar?" Am I just handicapped lol I don't see it posted

I'm also loving House Of DEI

Lol, your spoiler free chat didn't last long..😅

the SETS are so small, every scene playing in the one stupid castle or the other

Love this show..❤❤❤

Great 3 episodes so far

Full story package!

AY UP DRINKER AND MAULER

15:05 I have not read the book, yet most likely they are just adapting the material... No, I don't think the writers are Otto, calling for restrain and patience.

"We should probably be careful of spoilers" Drinker 10 seconds later "Without X in this season" I thought he woul've muted it from the livestream version since I feel bad for those who haven't seen it yet.

@sparkycjs

Ай бұрын

If you haven't seen it yet, you shouldn't watch discussions about it. Almost impossible to have a meaningful discussion about the show without spoilers.

@CriticalDrinkerAfterHours

Ай бұрын

To be fair, that's a reference to Season 1 and if people haven't seen that by now, they probably won't be interested in this video.

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

@@CriticalDrinkerAfterHours I meant more for people in Az' situation that are waiting for it to finish before watching, but I do get your point about it being clipped out seperately too.

@sparkycjs

Ай бұрын

You couldn't even discuss any characters then because people would then know that person is alive, so don't worry about spoilers, people shouldn't watch discussions about shows they haven't seen if they don't want to be spoiled.

Did SnarkyJay get a word in at all during this clip? Was looking forward to hearing her thoughts

Jump in, Jay. Don't be shy.

Love this show, everyone involved in making it actually cares.

Seeing sNARKY AJY ON THIS IS RANDOM

God, the scene with the twins in HotD episode 2 was heartbreaking.

The gold cloak guy saws the head off the infant prince in his crib in front of the queen, and then is caught leaving the city with said head in a bag. They toss him in the dungeon and Larys shows him a few torture tools. Gold Cloak: "Are you going to hurt me?" I wanted a Bolton to come thru the door, knives in hand, and Larys to say, "No, but _he_ is."

Drinker's going to have to edit these now. Apparently KZread is demonetizing any video that drops F bombs. I've read you should "bleep" it by just saying "KZread" every time.

It focuses on the people acting like actual people. It's first and foremost a family conflict. It's just they're an immensely powerful family and they have dragons which ups the stakes and has huge collateral damage.

Rings of Power Season 2 premiers in 2 months. I cant wait to see people compare it to House of Dragons

Yo Drinker, just watched a movie called The Accountant, with Ben Affleck...Holy shit it was good! It's obviously an Autism Awareness thing, but this was done right. Hope you watch. Love your stuff. 🍻

has drinker at least seen this one at least?

Is there any character in the show that is at least a little bit photogenic?