Drilling / milling machine build
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Building something between a drill press and milling machine, using lots of Chinese parts of various quality bought online.
Gear program:
woodgears.ca/gear
BigPrint program
woodgears.ca/bigprint
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Now this is the classic Matthias content I love
@jumpleadsx2
25 күн бұрын
yep.its like youtube gold. Matthias if youre reading this - how about scaling it up and building a wooden gear car in the next episode?
I love when you build a machine, and it’s not completely finished, but it’s done enough to start using it to make parts for itself!
@arcrad
28 күн бұрын
The bootstrapping phase is quite the accomplishment
@haroldchoate7497
28 күн бұрын
I love it when you do a new project. You’re more like a kid at play than a man at work. You enjoyment is a delight to watch. Thanks very much.
@brianoz2brn976
28 күн бұрын
Robots making Robots - .... -how perverse ! (quote C3PO)
@TheofilEggert
24 күн бұрын
😮😮😮
@smug_cat1
4 күн бұрын
Life of a ender 3d printer😂😂
Matthias' woodworking precision > Chinese metalworking precision
@Hsiwuehi
28 күн бұрын
iPhones are manufactured in China.
@thomasfowler2964
28 күн бұрын
So is my precision at the trough after 13 beers. 😅
@dustinlouder
28 күн бұрын
To their credit, they have to mass produce it all.
@smashyrashy
28 күн бұрын
I disagree
@RaoulEvilD
28 күн бұрын
@@dustinlouder aren't precision and accurary a prerequisite to mass production ? I mean, we are talking about linear ball bearings! Which most dimensions are usually ground to single digit micron precision (or so I thought was an industry standard/common sense...)
This is exactly why I love this channel, building something cool without any plans and just go by trial and error. Flashback to your early videos of making all of your machines, love it!
@ksbs2036
28 күн бұрын
Seasoned trial and error, honed by many decades of experience. But yeah, he lets it all hang out there - the great stuff, the okay stuff, and the warts 🙂
wow one thing I like about your videos is they dont hide mistakes along the way but rather show how to solve real problems as they arise; there is always some new trick or technique I pick up when ever I watch one of your vids. you are gifted
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
In theory theory and practice should be the same. In practice they are not. So there's often how you'll think it'll work and how you find out it actually works. Coming to terms with that rapidly is key. Like when Matthias assumed those linear guide bearings were all going to be accurate. They never are. Everyone gets tripped up by that.
Experimental DIY tools like this one are my favorites from Matthias.
I know exactly the feeling of doing all your measurements right and your build right only to discover that a part you bought and assumed was done right has all kinds of imperfections! Good rescue, Matthias!
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
If you follow DIY CNC you'd have seen that one coming. I was sitting here with my popcorn and I wasn't disappointed with the show. It went just how I thought it would.
this man is the largest library of engineering mindset. i swear, this will be important until the end of humankind. i watch his thoughts, and it's just like computer programming, where you build something and then see what's wrong and change it. this isn't a bug, it's error handling.
The fact that someone else’s (even a commercial entity) fabrication standards are not up to our hero’s, regardless of material type, no longer surprises me. The adjustable rack engagement is a slick idea.
Nice to see you _start_ the threads with the lathe, and then finish them with a die. There's too much idealism going around here on KZread. Everybody acts like procedure should be perfect and never choppy, when really, the only perfect procedure is the one that gets a good result. Bail out as soon as things start to go off, I say! There's always another way. As soon as I need to make threads, I'll fix myself a hand crank.
@knucklecorn
28 күн бұрын
Are you using your second channel as the commenting account?
@akaHarvesteR
28 күн бұрын
I should make a hand crank for my lathe too. I'm eyeing an ELS setup also... I did the change gears dance, and it immediately felt like I had enough of that for a lifetime.
I appreciate the explanation between the tenon jig on the table saw versus using your slot mortiser. That finally helps to illustrate why you would use one machine over the other.
Printing out stuff exactly 1:1 was a revelation when i started working. Glad to see it used constantly by the engineering God, Mathias!!
Mathias, I used to be a mechanical design engineer for a cnc machine tool manufacturer. Even on high-end ball screws and linear guides, our assemblers would often leave the mounting fasteners loose until a later stage of the assembly.
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
There's definitely strategies to getting alignments correct with linears. So much depends on everything else. So you work it from one point out to create those relationships. I knew he was going to run into that problem with those Chinese linear bearings. No two are ever alike. I've seen so many in DIY CNC forums ranting about it. Well, I was kind of wondering if that'd been fixed. Apparently not.
@dieterjosef
28 күн бұрын
But they left them loose to achieve way lesser tolerances than with these guides. I guess they had had less tolerance when lose than these after being bolted correctly.
I've been wanting to make my own mill for a while: fun to watch you tackle it. I would have thought that a counterweight system would have worked better than springs.
That is literally the coolest pull a lever to move something down with leverage force mechanism I've ever seen
Looking forward to seeing this one painted green. Great to have another big tool build on the channel!
I love it when you're able to use the machine, to build the machine. Gets me every time.
This is exactly why I stay subscribed to you. These videos are always the reason I end up back in my garage, cleaning off my workbench and building some cool shit for my cat like a shelf or a tower!
You’re a madman, Matthias! I love it! ❤👍🏼
You making machines is the best thing in youtube.
Enjoyed a new 'big tool' build. Been a while! Thanks for the video :)
One benefit of the slight misalignment of these cheaper rails is that this takes out the slack in the bearings. This makes the final press more stable and consistent, so as long as it doesn't bind it should be fine. I love how the machine looks, it appears like a DIY-project with no chance of being accurate, while actually performing well as far as I can tell. It'll be fun seeing how you continue working on this machine and seeing it appear as a tool in future videos.
A wooden drill press and mill. I never thought we’d see the day!
Looking at the thumbnail, Matthias, you look like a young lad who is extremely proud of something that he built. And you should be. Your 'cheapness' provides a way for your ingenuity to shine. Thank you.
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
I was watching a review about a bench top drill press so that got me looking at other ones online. I was surprised just how expensive they've gotten lately.
All those years of saying you were not going to make a drillpress... And this is not a drillpress. Fun to see all the problem solving.
Classic Wandel engineering. So exciting. I love it!
I always thought you should build a wooden drill press so you could build an entire shop from machines you made yourself. Cool to finally see it
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
Who do you think Matthias is, Dave Gingery?
YAAAAA! Back to making machinery!
My favourite quote of the year " I guess I have to put it together the Chinese way, With bigger mounting holes" Remind me of something I do alot, Fuck around and find out Love the work, Great video
I've loved your videos for many years! I'm elated that your building machines again!
Instead of the normal springs, consider gas springs to balance the weight of the spindle. Their change of force over stroke is way flatter than that of a normal spring. It's as if you start with a very preloaded spring (still Hooke's law, but you don't start a x = 0). I use two gas springs on my self built CNC (the moving Z part is about 14kg with 20cm of stroke), which work very well. They are also "best quality" gas springs (about 3€ a piece 😅) intended for cabinet lids. One end is fixed to the CNC frame (or rather X carriage), the other end has a pulley ("turned" on my drill press "lathe" 😉) and a bicycle gear shifter cable goes over that. That halves the force on the spindle, but doubles the travel. Since your machine has more Z travel, maybe gas springs that keep car trunk lids open are the right thing for you.
Yeah, your Big Print program is absolutely perfect. I bought it many years ago and still use it often.
Matthias building machines was the main reason i subed so many years ago, so watching this brings a warm smile to my face. Thanks for the video Matthias
I find myself with mouth agape as I’m watching yet another masterpiece. Your brain is other worldly.
Think this is the first wooden drill press build I've seen on KZread, and now I can see why. Nice work!
@matthiaswandel
25 күн бұрын
yes. Cost considerably more than a drill press!
I've been waiting for years for a wooden milling machine!
love the mix between the inexpensive Chinese equipment and the wood - it's all you shouldn't do and the results are remarkably functional
I built a slot moritiser in the same general family as yours using those same bearings, and found that while the bearing block castings are inaccurate (comically so), the hole pattern for mounting them is very accurate to the bore. It was some extremely tedious layout but it worked out. I did also use socket head screws and very slightly oversized holes, which obviously helped.
@matthiaswandel
14 күн бұрын
that's one aspect I didn't check. oops. Guess it makes sense, few would reference to the outside of the housing.
I always enjoy the point in build when you involve the half-built machine in its own creation.
Always amazing to see what you can do with wood. It would be awesome to see a competition where you and someone else are given the same task, but you build it using wood, and another with metal. It would be interesting to see how someone else tackles the job, then compare cost, time, and effort between the two.
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
I make stuff out of metal and wood and it takes me a lot longer to work in metal than wood. But I don't have the heaviest metalworking tools. More like the lightest. But when I'm done metal is always a lot more substantial than wood is. Steel is the real deal.
This is a classic of MW where he can work around any "anomalies" in making things work. The moment I saw he bought a chunk of metal that resembled a spindle, I knew this was going to be a very interesting and entertaining one. Just 5 min into the video, I knew the parts look mostly factory rejects (=floor sweepings) that will need the ingenious mind to overcome the "CC (Cheap Chinese) parts
Awesome problem solving showcased in this one Matthias! 👏💕👍 PS- only thing I was worried about was the string on the springs 🤣
Never understand what Matthias is talking about, but love watching him work.
@harlanbarnhart4656
28 күн бұрын
I feel that way with the programming projects. This stuff I understand.
Love to see you building a machine again!!
The rack and pinion idea for the handle is genius. Pretty cool little mill for not a very big outlay of “loonies”.😃
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
A rack and a pinion gear is the common way presses feed. There's not many other ways to do it really.
so cool. it's nice when he gets to the point in tool making where he can use the tool to make itself.
Yes! This is the stuff! I love the rack and pinion lever action. Cutting off one tooth for adjustability is genius! Well, the whole thing is genius.
Another thing you might run into with those cheap linear rails is that the steel rail will detach from the base that it’s screwed into given enough force applied to them over time. It might be a good idea to take them apart and use thread lock red before you put them into use. I had that issue and it required a complete teardown of the CNC machine they were in. They’ve been fine ever since.
The way you manufactured that pulley was intriguing! Thank you for all the information you presented in this video!
The gluing time is often the swearing time. I always feel terrible when I am out by a 1 mm, but if it happen to Matthias too, I feel a bit better. A YOLO CNC mill made of wood and cheapo mechanical elements seems so fun.
It shows how much fun you have building tools like these
Caution! Genius at work. When I got a 3D printer, the neatest thing about it was that it could make parts to make itself better.. 😎
At my bachelor study (engineering!), The students rely on 3d printing for a lot of the projects. The university supports this, aquiring an army of printers. It is interesting to see that a band saw and a blok o'wood can give you stronger, precision parts at a fraction of the time that it would take you to print them. While 3d printers are often hailed as good at rapid prototyping i like that glueing some blocks together and sanding where nesicairy gives you the ability to "design as you go"(which, while fun is not always the right approach. It think an engineer should be familiar with both though). For hobby projects it is definetly better as an afternoon of screwing around in the shed is way more fun than an afternoon of screaming at solidworks
@matthiaswandel
27 күн бұрын
If you are designing something that will eventually be manufactured in quantity, 3D printing makes more sense. For one-off experimenting, less so. But the 3D printer is sort of the universal hammer, easier for people not handy, injuries unlikely.
That was an excellent project Matthias. Thanks so much for putting the video together!
I love it! I’ve missed your tool builds!
Now if we can only get Matthias into casting. With his woodworking skills, machinery design and now machining. He'd make some awesome machinery 😈
@danharold3087
28 күн бұрын
Agree. I have been thinking this for years. I have some nice old metal lathes but no milling machine. I still have my woodshope but when I play it is general in metal.
@andreblanchard8315
28 күн бұрын
Wood does not melt very well.😅
Only Matthias makes a milling machine using 2x4's and Baltic birch! Beautiful!
Lovely to see a build with gears again!!! 😊
Why aren't you making a million bucks working for some large company. You are truly amazing. I am in awe every time I watch your channel.
Back to old school Mathias machine building, love it !
I've been really looking forward to the spindle section of the milling machine series!
Watching this video, I keep shaking my head in amazement at how you just start building and solve each problem as it comes up. If this were me I would be paralyzed for months on end trying to figure out how to do everything before I even start. Kudos to you.
Like the honest show of "failures", since I was planning to make an assembly video about my new dust collector and during the assembly I felt that I screwed up all the time. Didn't help that the instructions was really bad. And that I got bolts that wasn't in the plans with no information on where the different sizes should go. :)
Wow, I would never have guessed those linear bearing blocks would be so different.
@imqqmi
28 күн бұрын
They are sand cast after all, if they haven't been ground to precision, that's what you get. That sand cast rough texture is never going to give you an accurate surface to work with unless you machine it to within spec yourself. These blocks seem to be rejects and sold cheap. But that'll never stop Matthias from whipping them into shape.
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
No one ever does. But they always are. It's something I've run into a lot in DIY CNC forums. The fake THK stuff is all out of wack like these rounds ones too. What people do is they measure one and use it as the bolt pattern for all of them. They just assume they're all the same. Nope.
I've contemplated linear bearings as modifications to your earlier creation. I'll have to deal with those inaccurate parts. Thanks. Great work, as always.
Welcome to "Chinese Quality", Matthias! All those metal parts speak of it.
This is a wonderful project, and exactly the kind of interesting "just because" kind of build that brought me to your channel in the first place. Quite a joyful thing to see once again!
It always amazes me how resourceful you're.
Saw the preview picture and thougt: It's about damn time for this! 👍 Somehow I expected this earlier.😉
It is so gratifying to know that even you have issues when fabricating things sometimes. Thanks for sharing the good, the bad and the ugly!
Brilliant.. and you can tell Mathias is having fun!
Its essentially a jig borer- with the counterweights and everything!! Awesome work as always- its really cool!
16:57 I don't know why that made me smile so much.
Thanks for posting! I've been toying around with the idea of a mill build for a while. Seeing your take on it is VERY helpful.
Brilliant as usual Mr. Wizard! The only unsettling moment was when you were routing out the sheave with your fingers so close to the cutterhead. I guess I’m becoming a safety Sally, but that made me super nervous.
I know you love problem solving but. . . lol. Anyway after all those 'dodgy' parts you really did well, i'm impressed that your next video wont be, "How to Remove a Milling Machine from a Workshop Wall!" Well done Matthias and let me say, that scaling software of yours is tip-top. Since I bought it I use it all the time , it saves so much design-time, cheers.
I know the real reason Matthias bought that milling spindle - it has green paint! Can't wait to see the stand get finished :)
This is my favorite type of content from Mathias! Super.
I know it's hard showing your muck ups, but I really enjoy watching problem solving skills at work!
Always love watching your troubleshooting process. Great stuff!
This is great, I am looking forward to a classic Matthias build series of a homemade machine!
"Because it seems I care about price way more than quality, I shop Ali Express!" Best marketing tag line ever haha
Matthias, Very Very interesting! Great to see you designing and building a machine again. Don’t feel bad about the mistakes. We all get older and tend not to care so much about precisness as much when it doesn’t matter. Like you said, a hammer helps…haha. Thanks
Great project! Just to note that type of bearing are machined to be accurate only to the base and the screw holes, other dimensions are a result of casting, though even then there could be some small quality deficiencies in these cheap ones.
Really cool machine, Matthias looking forward to further design changes. Great video thumbs up.
This is just great. I love your appoach and creativity! Please don't stop.
When mounting parallel rails mount the center first with only one point that you can pivot on and then do the ends and you will hit it spot on.
What a fantastic creation! I'm in awe at your ingenuity and perseverance. Wait, where have I heard those words together before ....
Wow. Ingenious. Especially making allowances for all the manufacturing inaccuracies of the "bargain" components you used. Very neat.
This content is exactly why I subscribed to your channel :) great job, great video!
10:00 is probably the reason why people normally assmble the rails, make /those/ parallel, and /then/ figure out where the holes need to end up at.
Best video in ages.
Matthias, you're a mad man. Keep up the good work.
I've missed these builds!
Awesome build!!
I love how you can make it work with what ever you happen to have laying around the shop! Great looking build!
I have watched your inventions/innovations for years and have built a couple. I just love your creativity. I find your methods for problem solving particularly helpful.
Having struggled hand making a simple shelf with roughly $3000 worth of woodworking tools, I look at this like it's science fiction. You are a wizard, alien, and madman, all with the patience of a saint.
@chrischris1722
28 күн бұрын
Are you mentally challenged?
A wood milling machine? I love it. I liked your pulley making technique. How about a custom set of stepped pulleys? You'll likely need a couple of speeds.
@ericperkins3078
28 күн бұрын
Re watch the pantarouter series. I think that was his first million $$$.
I've always admired your commitment to precision, tempered by a cleareyed understanding of circumstances. Thousandths of tolerance, "but it's just plywood, so that's more than good enough."
@1pcfred
28 күн бұрын
I was chasing thousandths out of my CNC frame I made out of big box store lumber. I actually used a Hoke long gage block set to put it together. I had the blocks setup on jack stands. When they're built out for a few feet they're heavy.