Have trained 6 horses: that horse is done. Overworked Iver stress out Not enough down time for that horse.

Definitely a terrible ride, poor horse was clearly saying something was wrong, and the rider ignored the horse and kept pushing. A horse that is healthy and comfortable doesn’t do this or act like this. Dressage is a horrible sport, I’ve never liked it. FEI is corrupt and doesn’t care about the animal’s welfare. FEI allows painful methods to be used and they allow pain to be inflicted onto horses. So many ride BTV(behind the vertical) and they use rollkur training. I’ve seen horrible methods used to make horses move like this. Dressage isn’t natural with the way people make it. I prefer liberty work a lot more, it’s natural, graceful, and elegant.

When horses say NO and the rider ask for more, it reveals that horses are sports props and nothing else than that. The disrespect for the horse cries to the sky. I FEEL SICK

@TheOldandslow

Жыл бұрын

also that is a super quick path to a ruined horse that quits and gets more and more aggressive about doing any job. It can happen, this is the art of riding, when to press and when to wait.

@tammy4189

Жыл бұрын

That's my opinion too!!!!

@astridaseale1622

Жыл бұрын

Poor horse

@honesttruth8064

Жыл бұрын

Stop with all the monotonous activities perpetrated by countless PAIN DEVICES. NOT horse friendly at all.

@saarlooswolfhund6237

Жыл бұрын

That's why this sport is so sick.

Could that horse say any more clearly that it just wants out of there

@Flugkaninchen

7 ай бұрын

And the rider said "I hear You, but believe me, it's safe in here, You're gonna be okay". Nothing wrong with that. Also, nothing wrong with the grooms(?) stepping in to help in a situation like that.

I-had a lovely gentle 4 yo mare with a 9 trot that the day of big clinic suddenly started this behavior. No matter what I tried she did pretty much what you see here. It turned out that that day she realized her saddle no longer fit and was pinching her shoulders. Jump forward some tears and my four yo warmblood gelding that had never misbehaved suddenly was rearing and being really difficult. Bingo! Same cause. I switched to a bigger saddle and was right with the world! Tension, mental distress, muscle cramp in back can cause similar reaction. She rode quietly and refrained from pulling the horse around so that was good. Staying in the ring? She probably had paid out several thousands to get there and it’s hard just to walk away.

@lesleywilbourne7823

6 ай бұрын

She wasn't competing in the ring so it was nothing to do with not wasting her money, she calmly put him through some of his paces so he left with a happy memory of the event. Good psychology ❤

@brendafrost7001

6 ай бұрын

I thought the horses behavior had something to do with pain from something.

@mirrepoix

6 ай бұрын

@@lesleywilbourne7823 yep, she doesn't scratch the test until he's actually following directions, which she wouldn't be doing if she was just trying to get her money's worth/ride despite his discomfort. it takes patience to not just give up when they're unable to perform, but see if they can get comfortable and then end the whole process on a high note. the poor fellow had a bad day for some reason or another, it happens. we always hope it won't happen on a day as important as this, but, well. can't control fate! i hope she was (and is) proud of herself for how she handled him, it sucks that it didn't work out but it's one of those situations where a rider shows their true colors. and her colors shine!

I realize these horses are high strung, but you have to wonder if they are happy about being held with their heads like that. She didn't panic or lose her cool and even tried to pet him to calm him down. I really feel sorry for dressage horses.

@watchgoose

6 ай бұрын

watch edward gal riding moorland's totilas.

@carrotstickchronicles1595

6 ай бұрын

I'd rather have my horses head long and low than folded in half. I don't mind collection as long as my horses head and neck doesn't look like a hard taco shell, and at least she didn't try to spur the horse forward(at least not from what I was able to watch) or hold him into collection and behaving rather than asking a question

I was going to say just what Susie Lytal said. He’s either wound up about the environment or he’s just really saying no on this day, either way she’s telling him in a very calm and neutral way that ultimately whether they retire or not (and they eventually did) that it’s going to be a decision she sees best fit for them, not her just folding as soon as the horse begins to react to something. It’s something he has to work through at times. I think if it were me I would’ve retired before I even entered the arena, but of course you aren’t supposed to teach the horse in this way. I think it was more for an educational moment that she continued, and then when he actually went well, she, well, continued to continue. Then when he still has his moments after all, she did retire. I really do believe this looks more like a schooling opportunity than pushing and pushing for a complete test. She was very very calm and handled him super delicately. No escalation was on her part, in my opinion. Love the good pat at the walk as well ♡ another day!

@sarahwagland1559

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have taken the horse to the event. He looked like a malfunctioning robot.

@Kholoured

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, she knew she was scrapped on the test, she didn't even stop and halt at X this was just for the horse, to work thru the spook. Kept calm and didn't loose her cool just calmly kept the horse on task

@jacquelynburke157

Жыл бұрын

I'd call that BURN OUT.

@teresawort9124

Жыл бұрын

Nicely said..I have to so this with my boy. Freaking out could cause injury to me or him. It really is a teaching moment. Also the horse can't throw a fit to get his way. It needs to be on the riders terms. If not the horse wins. Leasing to furthur tantrums or whatever... This rider did an excellent job...if she gets upset...the horse will escalate. I have owned my horse for going on 8 yrs. Once a week he has to " check" to see if the rules still apply. Also checking to see if something bad scares him. Can I keep him safe. Situations like this actually strengthen your trust & your bond.

@meganpitts5256

Жыл бұрын

"He's not giving you a hard time. He's having a hard time"......

I don't ubderstand people saying she's soft hand. This bit is very hard and made to make the horse artificially yield to the hand, you really don't have to put any force in it to be strong and painful. There are other strategies to bring back the calm, but it's not good looking in competition...

@sheepishfibreart8460

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Curb is practically parallel to the ground the entire time.

@vlg1728

Жыл бұрын

@@sheepishfibreart8460 i don't know what is a curb as i'm not english speaker, but what i saw in this video is a horse violently against the hand, and the hand not giving anything to the horse and fighting against the horse. It wasn't a horse who was scared and a rider who ws trying to confort him, I saw a horse trying to say no, and the rider trying to make him submit.

@karlachampe5047

Жыл бұрын

The horse is saying "let go of my face!"

I trained in Germany from 1991 to 1994. I worked for 2 Olympic riders here in Canada. Most of the European horses don't get enough turn out or other kind of exercise. They are i the arena doing dressage. Burn out. My one boss in Germany had girls ride her competition horses out every afternoon for 2 hours. Of course the higher you get in the levels and the more you have invested then you don't want to let the horse wreck himself in the paddock. I think a lot of these horses just don't wanna anymore. He was presenting with the levade so they must be doing some seriously hard training with him at home.

@kimsutherland977

Жыл бұрын

Yep agree on lack of turnout in Germany. I worked 91-94 at Der Kronenhof in Langen near Frankfurt. Frau Opperman Willers and Gerhard Pietsch. Lots of drilling, training, hacking.... was "playing" and not allowed, nor was turnout. Horses were sour as hell.

@BlueyKind

8 ай бұрын

@@kimsutherland977 That was 30 years ago. Has nothing changed?

@kimsutherland977

8 ай бұрын

@@BlueyKind got out of the dressage game after that. I guess some tack changes are for the better, better saddle fit etc. Rollkur existed then and does now.. Behind the scenes never changes much.. They are just more cautious now as everyone with a mobile phone is capable of filming.

So much for “X halt salute”….sadly this is what modern day dressage has become…painful to watch and probably painful for the horse

@lynnevarley8433

Жыл бұрын

Certainly painful for the horse. I have ridden so called dressage horses and have been bitterly disappointed by how they feel. Hard through the back, strong in the hand, not a good feeling at all.

I am curious how old this horse is, because if I saw this behavior from a seasoned competitor I would immediately be looking for pain and overtraining. But if this is a fairly green horse, I would point out that while there is clearly extreme tension in the horse, the rider kept her seat and hands pretty soft and didn't appear to get involved in any emotional drama. Once in the ring, the horse moved off softly though I did notice some serious side-eye when he caught sight of his shadow. Without knowing the history of this pair, I am willing to give them both some grace. I hope she gives him some extra opportunities to take low-stress outings and get more familiar with strange rings/arenas so that he can relax and enjoy performing, because he looks like a talented horse to me. Just my two cents!

@wejump2

Жыл бұрын

The CDI arena at Global is a very high pressure situation for the horse. I was there watching and the rider did a good job of salvaging something positive from the experience

@bordereau1

7 ай бұрын

Well stated.

@Trakehner20

6 ай бұрын

I used to barrel race, and those horses have similar feelings and reactions upon entering the gate in that sport, too.

There is a lot of good going on here, she dealt with the situation calmly and without any real corrections, just letting him kind of sort himself out. I applaud her cool under this kind of environment, this will happen and when he did work it was so quiet with the mouth and tail. I really just see a horse learning to deal with the stress of being a show horse, they kind of have to enjoy it on some level or else they cannot really perform at top top levels. The un-named rider deserves praise for her composure. Having said this, if its habitual then maybe there is an issue that is not obvious or is just beginning but he went so quietly I kind of doubt it.

@petrairene

Жыл бұрын

She dealt with it by pulling the head down and into rollkur position. Which had to make it worse. This is a hand-ridden horse that as punishment for protesting against it gets more hand riding.

@KathySierraVideo

Жыл бұрын

I can applaud her for NOT trying to punish and “correct”, but… the horse said, “no” sooooo many times. I think the conversation around whether a sport horse should be given the right to say “no” to a sport they never signed up for is meaningful. For those of us who think horses should never be *forced* into performing for human entertainment, the better answer from a rider is to ask a few times… a few different ways… then get off and let the horse learn the Most Valuable Lesson of all: “I hear you. I won’t force you. You’re voice matters.” I don’t personally feel a horse in sport context NEEDS to “learn to deal with the stress of sport.” Instead, as riders, *we* need to learn to “deal with the stress of not getting what we want from a thinking, feeling creature.”

@mariekesillevissmitt7833

Жыл бұрын

@@petrairene the quality of the video makes it hard to see, but it appears like there’s considerable slack in the reins when he’s tucked behind the vertical. We can also see the use of an opening rein rather than a “direct” pulling rein, which isn’t a characteristic of rollkur. It looks more like he’s doing it out of stress rather than the rider’s pulling.

@vibeskouenborg6842

Жыл бұрын

@@KathySierraVideo ❤

@vibeskouenborg6842

Жыл бұрын

@@mariekesillevissmitt7833 do you know that when a horse is BTV he cannot resist- because no muscles excist for that job? So this ''light rein'' is just the result of that

Is this burn out, overworked, nerves whatever the cause I believe this animal is in need of a break from it all?

I agree with many that upper level horses are pushed too far too young. This seems to be a prime example of a horse that trigger stacked and when saying "this is too much for me mentally" it is told to do it anyway instead of investigating why the horse trigger stacked/what made the cup spill over. Learned helplessness is a state where learning isn't actually taking place..... Just because they "worked through it" doesn't mean this horse won't get more dangerous in it's behaviors when it's saying "no" .... I wouldn't be surprised if this horse progresses to a rearer when it gets stressed because many get off once a horse rears.... All steaming from this experience because it was not listened too when the horse said "this is too much."

It happens. Horses, like people, have bad days. Some can be avoided some cant. This horse was just really saying he wasn't doing it today. Which is understandable. he was trying his best

Mein Gott. Das arme Pferd!!!

What a truly beautiful, and a magnificent moving horse ☺ Pity about how this went on the day, as I really would've liked to watch this horse some more. From, Australia ☺

Horse is sick of it! Probably over trained.

Meltdowns happen, this one was handled beautifully

When my horse has a melt down. It is a whole lot worse than this. I agree the horse was saying no. Not today. Georgous horse though!

That's not a horse that's spooked or startled or temporarily panicked. That's a horse that, for whatever reason, is refusing EVERYTHING. That's not the time to force the issue.

@Linda.0708

Жыл бұрын

She did it pure to give the horse a good experience! And she did

@shadykatelynn932

Жыл бұрын

It's not forcing the issue, they did eventually retire but, and you should do this in everything around your horse, she made it her idea. Regardless of what you horsey thinks I'm the leader, we're going to do what I think is best. If your horse realizes they do not have a leader but a follower riding them they will instantly think they have to take charge and that's no good for anyone. The best example I can think of is when a horse is gate sour. Like you don't instantly fold and get off and go home because now they know that if they're tired they can just drag you to the gate regardless of situations and it's ok so don do dat lol

@PonyTrotsky

Жыл бұрын

​@@Linda.0708 Do you really think that's what happened here? It's possible, I guess. To me, though, it looks like the horse was simply reminded (not for the first time, I suspect) that he has no choice, no rights, and no options - which, of course, is a form of "training," albeit a negative one. Nobody can say for sure, based on a short video. I just hope this horse catches a break. He looks like he could use some time away from that unrelenting "competition frame", and maybe a change-up in his training routine.

@PonyTrotsky

Жыл бұрын

@@shadykatelynn932 Of course we're all taught this as kids, and it's obviously true UP TO A POINT. After that point, though, it's all downhill. A "leader" who drives her horse into chronic, untreated pain, or into mental stress that's really unsupportable, will have a woefully hard time regaining his trust.

@jonjonwp

Жыл бұрын

@@PonyTrotsky Exactly.

Dressage horses always looked stressed to me, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

@moppimasiina

9 ай бұрын

now days most dressage horses in the grand prix are hyper flexed and the moves over exateratee

@GoRideConnor

8 ай бұрын

@@moppimasiina Yes, to the ignorant eye.🙄🙄🙄

@moppimasiina

8 ай бұрын

@@GoRideConnor dressage has gone from relaxed and physically correct movements to exaturated, flashy and stressed movements..

@christinaquestiaux700

7 ай бұрын

They ARE stressed! Most of them ARE trained with à rollkur. Modern compétition dressage is a sickening disgrace .

@watchgoose

6 ай бұрын

@@moppimasiina "exateratee"?

I applaud rider. Very calm about it. I bet horse is young. She stayed calm throughout

She was not giving her head release. With that severe double bridle, she kept pulling back while spurring her. No wonder her horse had a nervous breakdown. These so called professional dressage riders have no solid horsemanship foundation. It’s a real tragedy what these cruel people with money have turned the dressage into in Europe.

Pourquoi insister ??? Il ne se sens pas bien, il suffit d'abandonner.

Spurs... double bit.. double rein... shanks... mouth ties.... crop whip.... shear equine burnout .... pain compliance is not the way for any Horse. Head set to point of vision and breathing challenges....

immediately , at the end of the 10th second of the video , the horse traverses its haunches to the left , which means that the horse is nothing wrong , but simply stiff and unbent ( in old language unbroken or entier ) . Its place is at home , to work on simple gymnastics of shoulder in , croup to the wall , taking the corner , but has nothing to do in whatever competition . But for this , the rider will have to drop off spurs , bridles and other unnecessary means and go back to simple aids , i-e open seat , absolutely no spurs and simple bridon , and of course opportune exercises .

I agree with comment he wanted the horse to at least leave on a good note. Would have been interesting to see the warm up

This is rollkur burnout.

This is why many horseman call it Stressage Asked & answered rider!

LS What happened to this horse at home???????????????

Something definitely wrong here, either with a tack problem, or the horse simply doesn't enjoy competition dressage and wants to stop. They don't all enjoy the pressures of competition, that's the rider! ❤❤

I personally would’ve let the horse end on a “good note” back in the warmup ring in a long stretching trot. No need to push through to the test

Sometimes bending to a one rein stop is calming.

Dreadful rider. Horse was backing away from contact and not once did she give with her hands , let alone drop the curb.

Unhappy horse

Horses are just horses and herd animals. Wonder if it couldn’t be a help to have a few calm horses standing around the arena for comfort. It’s a lot to take in for a lot of horses in a new place with people and flags, it’s natural to be anxious for them.

No guessing here. This is not a green horse and the rider carries a whip. The mouth is frothing and opening forcefully as much as the right noseband allows. The horse is not bending properly, he just swings his hind asides as the short neck will not allow anything else His poll is behind the vertical and he tries to get freedom from the rein during the avoidance. Let's not paint this white by saying it happens because horses are freakish. The truth here is right in front of us - these people train the horse by very - VERY -tight hands, causing a lot of pain.

@jasminlisanne5244

Жыл бұрын

Very well said! This horse is repeatedly trying to escape the pain in a very polite manner. The rider cares too much about the competition and ignores the horse's needs. She forces him to do the dressage test while in hyperflexion..

A good rider would have listened to their horse

So many horses with messed up minds

Now of looke again two dressage rules contravened, outside assistance and exceeding 90 seconds to enter is usually elimination

I'm rehabbing a beautiful warmblood that was forced in everything. After 7 months of gentle, light very gradual old school training, she is opening up like a flower. She was called a demon at her other barn, so wrong, she's light and happy without restrictive measures. Old school, Spanish riding school. People learn to observe and listen to your horse!

Third disaster in Wellington 🤔

@DressageHub

Жыл бұрын

That's only from what I watch...I don't watch the majority of the Livestream. There are probably more.

Wound up 'way too tight.

@petrairene

Жыл бұрын

And too narrow head/neck position.

Just love all the comments from selfmade professionals here, quite astonishing how so many people know exactly what the horse was thinking and what he had experienced previously - where can I get all this information? Crystal ball maybe? 🤔

I know nothing about this sport, but the horse looked weak in his hind legs. Several times it looked as though he was going to fall.

Oh, you have to hate it when they come unglued and stuck in reverse gear... So long as they're going forward, even if they try to run through your hands, bolt, or buck, you have *something* to work with. When they backpedal, there's not much you can do that doesn't risk making it worse. You're just sitting there hoping the animal has enough self-preservation instinct function left to avoid backing into a serious wreck.

A thorough soundness exam by a good honest veterinarian is in order.

As usual. Way too many opinionated armchair experts insist on commenting. If you can say nothing nice, say nothing

Second time the horse clearly is reacting to pulling the bit.

Wonder why this is so prevalent in Dressage. I was hoping the 2 grooms were coming to help her lead him back to his stall. Or go hand graze him. But no! Forget the horse. Im in Wellington. I want to show off. Im so disgusted by the inflated egos of theses women that seek attention!

That is the biggest NO I have ever seen from a dressage horse. 😳

If the horse would have reacted more intelligently, he would have kicked her off in three seconds.

Surely that was outside assitance against the rules surely

I’m sorry but this horse is terrified & terrified to go forward. Looks very sore in the mouth too.

Those levades and school halts though!

@TheOldandslow

Жыл бұрын

ikr? omg!

@sheepishfibreart8460

Жыл бұрын

Haha yes it's unusual to see a competitor able to actually lower the haunches!

Such a good and honest horse. What a shame

WHY IS SHE STILL ON AND NOT DISMOUNTING TO CALM THE HORSE?????? I am BAFFLED.

I'm not a pro any way. But I don't see anything criminal here. That a "no" for sure, but... no beating, no rough rein work, no rudeness, no cruelty. No need to attack the rider and make nasty comments, she dealt the situation gracefully. It's her horse, I guess the rider knows him/her best and what's best for him/her.

@jasminlisanne5244

Жыл бұрын

Hyperflexion is damaging to any horse.. That's really not up for discussion. Yes, the rider is very calm and does not lash out but just because she isn't as bad as other riders doesn't make her good. She ignores her horse, puts the competition first and forces her horse into hyperflexion.

@user-yh6px4dy3u

Жыл бұрын

@@jasminlisanne5244 If she put the competition first, she won't quit so fast, I suppose. Imo, she just wanted to leave on a good note, so the horse could get used a little to the arena, the noise etc. I'm not going to judge. Cause all we see is a four minute video, none of us knows this horse nor the rider, and how they really get on. No offense)

That rollkur is so painful.

Today is a good day to try levade.

When you capitalize on anything, you put it in grave danger

Like everyone else commenting on this video, I have no idea of what set that horse off and I doubt the rider did either. What I do know is the Rider sat through it all with total equanimity. She didn't get upset. She didn't punish. She very patiently rode the horse through it, got into the ring, schooled for a minute or so and then exited. Perfect response to a completely imperfect situation. While there was obviously something in that arena that frightened the horse, he never displayed the symptoms of a poorly trained overwrought horse. Throughout the episode and the very nice moments in the ring his tail is always relaxed and undulating. He never got all lathered up with sweat or even acted in a panicky way. It was just something there that he found not quite right. While in the ring and actually performing I thought he looked really, really nice! Too bad you rail bird experts don't have enough sense to recognize an excellent Rider and beautifully trained horse for what they are - a great combination having a bad moment, not a bad program.

And maybe performing at such a high spec, day in day out, with the head in such a restrained position had all become too much

So she gets him in there but instead of trotting around, giving lots of praise and retiring, she chose to increase the pressure and force the issue.

Ah, the carnivorous horse-eating flowers....

The horse is screaming no. I feel so sorry for him.. 😢

At some point, when do you get off and lead the horse forward? It shouldn’t be up to another person on the ground. Retire gracefully.

The judges should not have allowed that rider to compete

What😮 a trip! Maybe is the same as of all cases: noseband to tight!!!!

Perfectly solved without any extra pressure for the horse. This is keep on thinking forward like it should be. Big applause for the rider. Well done.

The horse probably has pain-joints maybe. He sees this as punishment.

so many comments from such inexperienced people. Handled beautifully for horses best benefit.

Could what the horse was saying have been any more obvious? When will these sick, selfish humans stop harming these magnificent horses? They don't deserve these horses. a TRUE RIDER looks out for the well being and happiness of his or her horses. I can't get mine to leave me alone! They beg to be ridden. This horse is begging for it to STOP. And being ignored.

Huh. I’m no Grand Prix rider but if my horse is volunteering to rear I ask him forward.

Why did she not get off? Why did no one interfere right away and asked her to stop?

Why riders are not able to dismount and lead the horse? Instead they depend on the other person to come and lead. It appears the only function of rider is to be abuser on the horse's back.

These horses can hardly breathe/see having their heads like this. I can hardly watch this!

I hope the horse survived.

You can see this horse is clearly hallucinating! I mean, are there people out do you think it's possible there are people out there that would give a horse a treat that was tainted with a hallucinagenic substance that would actually give To make them sick during their performance? Yes, there are!

She should never have entered the ring..no congrats for this rider

Just dismount and get someone to lead the poor horse somewhere quiet. Preferably away from YOU.

The situation was handled very well, rider stayed calm and the horse was led forward quietly

@christinebaker8754

7 ай бұрын

NO. The horse was saying NO. Listen. Stop. Dismount. Calm. Stuff competitive dressage - bring back classic dressage; we never saw stressed burnt out over bent horses when they were ridden and trained correctly.

Yes, painful for the horse. Painful to watch. She should've gotten off the horse and walked away the horse is obviously upset or in pain or both.

the poor horse

Wow, so many experts who weren't there & have no idea what was going on, adding in their 2 cents. I'd advise Dressage Hub to avoid showing videos like this w/out discussion w/ the rider/trainer, or a REAL expert. But as a non-expert, I will say that horse does some very fancy footwork!

@DressageHub

7 ай бұрын

The only person I take advice from is my attorney. If you want to submit videos with commentary for discussion I would be happy to publish them.

I really don’t like to see this. Poor horses 😢

I thought the rider did an awesome job of controlling what could have been a train wreak. And I get what some are saying about being sensitive to the horses right to say No.. But my question is an honest one, so Karen's zip it. In western style a one rein stop, disengaging the hind quarters and circles would have happened in a heart beat. Why not in English riding? And yes all the above can be done gently and with concern for the horse.

@vibeskouenborg6842

Жыл бұрын

you think the horse is supposed to get forced to obey?

@waspbitch6014

Жыл бұрын

I think it's ALL revolting! Poor horses! 💔 🤘

@crazycanuck8120

Жыл бұрын

@Patricia Leighty Yes, it can be used in English as well, although I’ve not observed it at a dressage show nor at this level of dressage. I agree with you that the rider did a fabulous job of preventing this from escalating into a train wreck. Interesting you mention this… I had rewatched the video paying attention to the rider’s hands - particularly when the horse was going backwards, haunches dropped and looking like he might rear up. If you watch closely you’ll notice she is using her right rein, in a subtle way, to do something similar to what you mentioned…it just isn’t as pronounced as one might see with a different horse & rider combo, but she uses that right rein to redirect his energy. He seems sensitive enough to respond to that subtle cue, and “keeps all 4-hooves on the ground” so to speak without the need for circling. I’m assuming she knows this horse well, and what does or doesn’t work with him when he’s this anxious. It might be that any other reaction than what we saw from her would only escalate his anxiety so she chose to react as she did.

@patricialeighty1614

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your non judgmental, well thought out reply. It is really appreciated. I did notice the right hand recovery. I'm making a riding transition from English to Western. Sometimes techniques get Confused. Thanks again

@vibeskouenborg6842

Жыл бұрын

@@crazycanuck8120 you think the rider is supposed to ignore the things the horse try to express?

Sad accumulation of many years of too much. Too much hyperflexion, too much work and not enough play. I'd say no too! seriously, if you have a dressage horse and it hates it., then Why continue? Maybe Grand Prix should be with no bit and no saddle. Show some real riding and real training.

The Flying Halt! Horse trusts his groom more than his rider.

He’s a saint

Poor horse

We devote our lives to the care and nurture of these creatures. In turn, they must do what we ask when we ask it. I see patience and forbearance, but a solid insistence that we get on with it. This is correct, if she hopes ever to get that guy back in the ring.

This horse has zero confidence in his rider. He has more confidence in groom girl. It was expected he will blow out later in the ring. The fact she ran first halt tells you this happened before. And this will continue until she starts to have some sort of understanding for this horse and starts to comfort him more and give him confidence.

@joannetyrrell364

Жыл бұрын

Not sure about this particular test, but halt at the start is not always required any more.

That's what today's dressage has become: Circus-Trick-Riding. Has nothing to do with the principles of classic dressage training anymore. Sad, sad development. The result are frustrated horses, barely functioning out of fear with utter pain and discomfort. Quo vadis, dressage? This horse needs to get back to the basics and gain trust and confidence. To train a horse from zero to GP used to take up to seven years. No more............. Time is money. :(

This is just my opinion but I think she should've eased off on the reins and let the horse come to a halt reassured and patted the horse then instead of when the meltdown was going on and then asked for the horse to move forward with more reward if done calmly. But I'm so sick of seeing these poor horse's with their mouths literally in their chest which is 1 of the positions this horse went to! Horse's have off days just like we do and yes it would be so much easier if they could talk and let us know what's going on, but sadly they can't and must rely on use to be in tune with them to have a happy horse wanting to do it's best for us because of trust, love, friendship and a bond that we know if it's pain or something else going on and we can rectify the situation b 4 they're ruined for ever! xoxo

The horse had a mental blockage and still she tried to continue. Looks like he has been force trained to me. Maybe the muscles aren't all there yet and there is pain somewhere. I don't know the horses history of course and this is my assessment on what I see here.. Back to basics in a snaffle, hacks and slow working up again. I hope Hermes and Bohemian aren't watching.

@PonyTrotsky

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That was my very first thought - "This poor guy just needs to let his hair down and have a nice hack on loose rein"

Horse needs a break probably has burn out!

Well done👍

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