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@MarshalMarrs

10 ай бұрын

I bet the sky people or some other sophont would use the dream hunt ceremony as an excuse to get high 😵‍💫

we've just been brainwashed into thinking progress means fancy clothes and skyscrapers. imagine a world where u live in a community filled with people you love and u spend your time providing for the community and creating art and just chilling and exploring the world around u - and u and every generation after u will have shelter, food, clean air, and freedom. yeah, we're the primitives.

@CrimsonDawn-ou4og

Жыл бұрын

Really is a new perspective for me

@xBrokenLoverx

Жыл бұрын

We already evolved from that for a reason though. Not saying the modern life is the optimal one, but think about why things didn't stay like that

@shadow8277

Жыл бұрын

@@xBrokenLoverx having a world where everyone has an equal share in resources doesn't mean no technology or modern medicine, just means that our world doesn't need to revolve around everything being made to generate profit

@TheShazMC22

Жыл бұрын

@@xBrokenLoverx we have never been that

@dontseeher

Жыл бұрын

I wish earth rlly was just like this ngl

I really can’t see why anyone defends humans in the movie. Those people really are insane

@Cactusfruitsquisher

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They forced themselves onto an alien planet, broke one of their sacred rules by mining the metal in the ground, and committed genocide on them when they started defending themselves. I will never understand why people seriously take the side of the humans in avatar when they’re literally destroying a world that doesn’t belong to them and killing people who are protecting their sacred way of life

@zozjo

Жыл бұрын

only a capitalistic piece of crap would defend the humans

@Spaceman0720

Жыл бұрын

In the wiki. The RDA suppresed and outr right cancelled research and development of alternative superconductors and power generation by legal means and hiring terrorists so only unobtanium can be used and focused on and "it is necessary for human survival" argument crap. Whats worse is this is very common in the real world. So yes I agree.

@woodonfire7406

Жыл бұрын

You people forget that Generation Films exist

@showcase-me

Жыл бұрын

Says while commenting from an Electronic device full of rare-earth metals 😅. Like, you wouldn't love yourself some neuralink made with a superconductor, or wouldn't buy a gel that stops aging....

This would be a sick way to start the third movie with one of his kids going through this process

The Dream Hunt would’ve been amazing to see on the big screen

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Жыл бұрын

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@marshalmarrs3269

7 ай бұрын

I bet the sky people or some other alien species would appropriate the dream hunt as an excuse to get high as a kite 🫠😵‍💫😵

It confuses me why this stuff wasn't in the final film when it explains so much.

@jonathanking9954

Жыл бұрын

They had to cut down the runtime

@bp_cherryblossomtree723

Жыл бұрын

And Movie theaters need to make profit too

@v1keebiriwX_sVS

Жыл бұрын

The movie was already too long

@coltynstone-lamontagne

Жыл бұрын

This is why I would be happy if they made the movies even longer

@h077y

Жыл бұрын

I would also think because they thought it might promote drug use, and they wanted it to have a young audience too

What if the dream hunt was part of the reason Jake could switch bodies at the end of the movie? Like it prepared his mind for joining fully with the planets' network

@deybands1017

4 ай бұрын

that’s a good theory. maybe grace didn’t make it passed eywas eye not because of her gunshot wound, but because she never became one with the forest and surroundings near her! something to think about🫡

@mr.boomguy

3 ай бұрын

@@deybands1017 Meanwhile her daughter Kiri has this insane connection to her surroundings

Ok, we need an extended extended version of the first film

This was possibly the most important scene cut out, really helps get across the idea and importance of Eywa. Least in Avatar 2, Cameron got more time.

Heya, just a speculation, after watching multiple videos about Avatar and what it is meant to be, I feel like in the next few movies we will soon be getting into that spiritual scenes especially that Kiri has a strong connection with Eywa.

@BryceEdwardBrown

Жыл бұрын

You are 126% correct

As a First Nations person, I can't wait to see more similarities between my culture and the avatar movies. Small details like at 2:10 is really cool to see. In my tribe, we use smudging (burning sage) to cleanse ourselves of negative energy, similar to what is shown in the video :]

@Birchlead

Жыл бұрын

It’s cool to hear that. I’ve seen otherwise nothing but hatred for these things vaguely resembling non white cultures by all the white people watching bc they decided it being there makes it racist.

@aimee-leighkelly2906

Жыл бұрын

Same! As a Māori I really enjoyed seeing the similarities between my culture and the Metkayina (no idea how you spell it) indigenous representation is so beautiful. Polynesians don’t often get to see themselves in huge blockbuster movies, barely any indigenous culture does. I hope they explore other cultures for inspiration in the next movie like the First Nations people.

@haldouglas4773

11 ай бұрын

same here! i come from many nations (mi'kmaq, tsalagi, and plains cree by blood, and raised by nisga'a, secwe̓pemc, stó:lō, and métis communities) so growing up i've always had a very deeply rooted interest in the connections creator has made between our peoples and cousins all over the world. it's comforting to have this widely accepted "home" in avatar's franchise, and the social influence it has currently i've found makes it a lot easier to help people understand our struggles when we teach of them. outsiders can't understand our struggle directly, but we can easily use this universe that's been built to help bridge the knowledge and communication gaps. it feels amazing 🥰

@sarahlovely

10 ай бұрын

that's cool

I just wanted to let you know that aside from the fact the I really like the way you break down your explanations, what I like the most is your voice.

@Imauser88

Жыл бұрын

@@Adam-326 what

I’m really hoping James has plans for jakes son to go through a dream hunt in avatar 3 on screen or something , yes I understand aswell why they cut it , probz didn’t want to make it so cut and dry that ewya is what it is , but now I think to the casual viewer is should become clearer that it’s some form of higher being , and hope we get another extended version of the first film later down the line , where all these unfinished scenes are done and added

im a fan of the idea that progression is not necessary for a successful species

@machomb

Жыл бұрын

Of course, the only criteria for a successful species is reproduction.

I know dream hunt was taken out but i hope that they bring it back in the future films and maybe jake or neytiri's kids might go through dream hunt and then show it because I feel like it is interesting. Also when you showed that dream hunting was advised for the avatars to go through with cause their was a high chance of not surviving. I think jake going through with it really appealed to neytiri and made her fall even more in love with jake because it was one of the last stages to becoming one of the people in her clan. And it's alot more risky than the very last stage which is making a bow from home tree

Love that you referenced Terence McKenna. The shamanic experience in tribal life is absolutely key to their balance with nature. Otherwise, they turn into us.

@sarah.taylor

Жыл бұрын

Do you know where that clip he included is from?

Nah it’s just funny seeing jake ascend to the heavens while sitting 😂

I wish this was In the film honestly its kind of a needed thing in it hopefully in the new one they dive into stuff like this more and explain it

i need the 4hr avatar movie. in fact i _demand_ it.

They should’ve kept these scenes, I don’t care if it makes the movie longer. These scenes display their culture

@brick-2000

4 ай бұрын

Movie theaters need to make a profit and alot of people don't want to watch a four hour movie so basically money

Its very hard for me to stop convey my thoughts on this! and yes for a foreigner my thoughts could be extremely ridiculous but there is soo much similarity btw Navi and my culture! the word Avatar (a Sanskrit word which means :- incarnation ) the word Amrit (also a Sanskrit word, means :- elixir ' the potion of immortality' but it have a different story of origin which was Amrit-Manthan ) and the most important Dream hunt sequence, actually the customs are totally different (or may have some metaphorical references which I am not able to catch as for now) but the main concept is same! In our case a human have to meditate to first make its mind stable for the process! first the "Saadhak":- the meditator cuts his bond btw his surrounding, then his belonging, then all emotions then at last its own ego of existence and finally approach the nirvana or the moksha i.e. being liberated from the illusionary world and integrate back to the eternal consciousness "Brahman" here in this case was "Mother Eywa" the only difference btw them is the scale mother Eywa is the consciousness of a moon and its reality as per the movie but "Brahman" is the ultimate consciousness of all existential and non-existential reality ! and yes I am talking about " Sanatan Dharma" and the similarity btw all other pantheon and polytheistic cultures is actually dates back to the very concept of such culture !

@aracelylopezpsyd5794

Жыл бұрын

This is what I wish people understood about Avatar. It’s the first movie to put the universal consciousness in a literal form that people can more plainly wrap their minds around. So many people focus on the less important details of these movies & end up missing the main point, which is ironic if you ask me. If people could open themselves up to learning from these stories, they’re a great teaching tool in terms of introducing people to concepts that often require a lot of time & practice to understand on our own. Accepting these ideas & then learning to apply them to the best of our abilities within our own world & daily life is really the main point of this movie. The universal consciousness & interconnectedness of all things is what I feel was the most important take away & the reason I love Avatar so much.

an extra 20 minutes for this amazing scene would have been worth it 10x over.

@privatprivat7279

9 ай бұрын

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You should do the RDA from avatar.

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Жыл бұрын

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I am seeing Avatar again after this I just can't not! I've been watching all your latest about Avatar and I understand so much now! When I first saw the movie it was my first time seeing it, now I understand all about Na'vi and cut scenes plus Jakes Family tree because I'm also seeing the second one soon.

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Жыл бұрын

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im 100% convinced we will get a great, fully rendered dreamhunt scene either with Kiri or Lo'ak or both of them in the next movie it just feels like the right thing to do

Amazing video. Thank you so much for making these, it’s so interesting. I’m currently trying to learn everything about Avatar, so you’ve helped a lot :)

This reminds me of the episode swamp from avatar the last air bender where there was a mother treee and everything was connect

@harleyloraine7699

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

You nailed it. I felt EXACTLY the same way about the importance of this part of the story!

Great video! I think you should do a series explaining the comics in order! 👍

@BryceEdwardBrown

Жыл бұрын

I would love to do something like that!

@user-ue2ye1jg5d

Жыл бұрын

Yes please!!!

I would love it if there’s a plot twist where the Navi were once more advanced than humans, but settled on a simpler life to protect their planet

@KatsyKat

Жыл бұрын

That could have probably happened! We hear in the sequel that other species and na’vi clans were often in conflict with each other, even killing in spite of revenge, for territory or jealousy. So i could see this actually being in the lore :0

@PearlOfIncandescence

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the fact that the laws of Eywa specifically forbid building, mining and wheeled vehicles, is a pretty good indication that the Na'vi had all of that at some point. If they had never known what any of that was, there would be no need for the laws (or even the words used in them) to exist. 🙄

@andreafraustoz

Жыл бұрын

My theory is that arcs made of metallic ores are remains of the ancient Na'vi civilization left behind for 4-6 million years and Tulkun are once feral.

@adamwjstang3251

8 ай бұрын

If they were more advanced they probably would have found earth before we found pandora

OMG thanks for your videos I love how you really understand.

Feeling the sorta Amapiano i am hearing in the background yasssssssss bro 💃🏾🕺🏾🔥

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Жыл бұрын

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Na'vi GOD: sentient planet keeping balance in every race in it Human GOD: line must go up and BRRRRRRR

Love your avatar stuff and would love more

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Жыл бұрын

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The way in see it there are pros and cons to both ways of life & I do think a balance can be struck between the 2

At the end of the day. Avatar is just a reminder to return to monke...

First... Happy Late Birthday lol.. Just gotta say you produce some great high quality interesting content sir.. I have really been enjoying learning about Pandora and all of its inhabitants..I admire your passion about ...I kinda see you as a Professor of Pandorian Studies?? lol..so yeah major credit and praise for your channel.. you've definitely have made me a bigger fan of the franchise...

I have used the compound that Terrance is describing and before you mentioned him I thought "It's almost as if the Dream Hunt is based on experiencing that compound". I would have loved to see it in the movie.

I think Eywa is real and sentient, the whole planet is a huge brain, linked together by all the synapses in the trees and anything else on the planet that may have them -> (🌳🧠🌲)

i love the parallels to ayahuasca ceremonies

What did you think of the sequel?

Love your videos. Where do you get these clips that aren’t fully using SFX? Never seen these sequences before.

@Aliasbaba41

Жыл бұрын

They are on the Extra DVD of the Extended version

Brilliant channel. Sequels prediction videos??? 🎉

Many indigenous cultures include ceremonial "rites of passage" for there youth that include a vision quest of some form.. it is very important to note that not indigenous cultures include the use of some sort of hallucinogen a a part of this experience , some cultures do, some do not , for example the act of fasting can also be used bring about this experience. James Cameron was likely concerned that the inclusion of an example like this would lead to a dangerous misuse and abuse of such substances outside of there original traditional circles, and I am not sure what impact It would have had upon the films rating review ,so I understand his concern here.,, Avatar is very "reflective" and contains many deeply researched layers of internal recognition, reflected from many of earths living peoples. we can internally recognize these layers inside as some of us have internal memory's of them on some level ,, "walking through a dream" I see you as a hint , The story for Avatar was in itself seeded from a dream in the first place and that's something to be aware of .. The dream hunt is somewhat "reflective " of an ayahuasca ceremony , filtered through the world culture and layers of Pandora... Mirror Story's .can be a very powerful venue when a person has a "Bridging recognition experience with them in relationship to our inner layers relating to our own very real world and our histery with it "(how we see and inter-relate on what we have been taught and our interna reflective ability to call in question those layers) , we all know that clever Na'vi catch phrase "I see you" but are we aware of one living internal representation within the Zulu language , "Sawubona " kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZH2et82PirW2e5s.html as a possible source reflection , in fact many of the earths indigenous languages "all around our world" have always contained these recognition layers a causual example from the Ojibway language tree kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGqqj5qKc7iTc9o.html . ( The act of "Seeing" someone is not a non topical experience like it is in English) A gentleman from the Taino community commented upon this "refection" as well from his shared perspective they are "Taino like" but there is recognition there is a better expression of this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYWHxbqGnru_hqQ.html The dream hunt example add's an internal dimension to the deep thought that went into the underlying layers the films creation ..

Sigourney's voice is so soothing

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Жыл бұрын

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It's crazy how much they took out of the original!! Now I understand why you're dying for that director's cut. Before watching your videos I didn't really care about the Avatar universe that much, but after seeing all these deleted scenes I'm right there with you. The story would be so much more interesting if it got the full four hours. If they can spend double the movie's budget on a theme park, they can definitely finish rendering some of these scenes.

Maybe we will​ see in Avatar 3.

i requestioned my beliefs and my region, other things in my life because of this video...literally, wow...

So if youre having a bad trip in an avatar can you just unlink to pause it or stop lol

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Жыл бұрын

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@harleyloraine7699

Жыл бұрын

Oooo that's such a good question

@ksoundkaiju9256

Жыл бұрын

What if the cord gets stuck Aiwa: Nah son, there ain’t no disconnecting from this

regardless of all the flaws in Avatar, i think the reason it’s one of favorite franchises is because of its relation to my ancestors and their way of life. You said the Navi are pantheists, so were my Igbo ancestors before colonialism. There are so many parallels between the Navi and Igbo culture

do 1899 explained pls

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Жыл бұрын

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I think can explain how an Avatar brain (aka a human brain in a Na'vi skinsuit) can survive the rite of passage and have a similar, if not the same death chance of a Na'vi. So, the forest works like a computer, or a brain, right? And most likely an Avatar is more Na'vi than Human. Now, if like any of you would normally, "add components" (add an Avatar, aka a Na'vi with human genetics) like you would to a computer, it should not have any problem communicating with it. We see this with Grace dieing, joining Eywa (aka being uploaded to Pandora) and we see this with Jake being able to even ACCESS the neural network through joining "external firmware" (the animals) and being able to "operate" them. All this to say that, the possible computational power that a human, or Na'vi, might miss, could, and probably would be given by Eywa themselves. A bit like an administrator is able to access every part of the computer and is able to add or subtract usable RAM to different processes. And this might explain also why not every Na'vi passes through the rite of passage: Eywa does not permit the un-chosen Na'vi to access the extra computational power and resources to not only contrast the hallucinogens and venoms in their body, but also doesn't let them survive or see any visions, both for keeping the balance of the species and the balance of the world. Also, saying that "humans are right" and that "Eywa is just a sadistic dictator" is literally, absolutely literally, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, spreading capitalism, colonialism and racism, or specism ideals, whatever you want to call it. I'm still gonna call it racism because it's still humanoids with intellectual power that know that they don't know some things and are aware of their selves and their sentient-ness and can communicate this and other things to other humanoids, but also because of the subtle like a thanator running at full speed in the viewer's face racial implications of the film, ALSO explicitly said by James Cameron himself, that the Na'vi are basically to be taken like a metaphor of another native human population that other humans were to just conquer, just this time it's in space and with a distinctly Cyberpunk aesthetic and with tall blue aliens. Also the blue aliens won this time because native people do deserve a good thing. As a treat.

So is this ceremony only for hunters/warriors or do all clan members have to do this?

I know why the Na'vi won the fight. It's called plot armor. Let's be frank here if humanity brought down the hammer with its full might the Na'vi wouldn't stand a chance

@warrenfoster8535

Жыл бұрын

You’re right, if they were smart they would do an orbital bombardment rather than a ww2 style low flying bombing mission. But then they’d just run into the same problems of unsustainability

@rowanhutchison3378

Жыл бұрын

No shit. This is fantasy. Doesn’t have to be realistic. Just enjoy the films.

where do the laws of eywa even come from? i dont think a planetwide megabrain can just come up with the concept of technology without ever having seen it. have na'vi in the far past created technology? or have other aliens landed there before humans did (or even before na'vi evolved)? maybe these other aliens are the na'vi but they genetically modified themselves to fit into pandora's ecosystem and started living a life without technology. this would also explain why na'vi are biologically so different to all other pandora life, but still fully fit into the ecosystem. or maybe these other aliens were actually good and just temporarily visited pandora rather than mine or colonise the moon and when they left eywa just decided that technology could also be used for bad things and banned it?

If I was a Navi and I go through the dream hunt then I would find this very strange and be the weirdest thing I seen today but great video

Honestly I’m glad they took this scene out. The Navi are already spiritually connected they don’t need psychedelics.

What did Jake see? Did Jake see meteyam death or a death in his family?

11:34 I heard toads makes one a psychpath. Not all wild cultures are spiritual. Some are just wild

Dream hunt aka shrooms

@truedarkness4052

Жыл бұрын

Shrooms but better

@SOLIDSNAKE.

Жыл бұрын

@@truedarkness4052 dude! Imagina the shrooms on pandora! They probably glow and move!

@truedarkness4052

Жыл бұрын

@@SOLIDSNAKE. Imagine eating some and being surrounded by glowing shrooms

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Жыл бұрын

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@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526

Жыл бұрын

No NOT shrooms. It's literally ayahuasca

Do the other clans on Pandora do the Dream Hunt?

@BryceEdwardBrown

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but each clan has a different approach to it

@Mythical.1212

10 ай бұрын

@@BryceEdwardBrown Thanks!

@johnyaxon__

10 ай бұрын

Yeah. Some clans just smoke weet

I feel Grace was trying to deter Jake cos she was jealous.

10:09-10:46 this guy just explained what human sin is in a nutshell! That battle is being raged here on Earth and since the sacrifice happened on the cross we can have forgiveness of sin and be allowed a chance to get it right. The first conservation concerns aroused in the 1790s-1805 which lead to the first formal conservation act (this was during the Napoleonic Wars). During the 1890s and early 1900s conservation really took hold in America, this was well after the crucifixion of Jesus. The descendants of the Clovis became more respectful and peaceful after the extinction of the ice age. Until European colonizers arrived in America no more extinctions happened. Humans have the unique ability to right our wrongs. James Cameron even made this movie to warn people of environmental destruction, I remember that fact being brought out when this movie was new.

james cameron took out som scenes i think would have been beautiful and great to the story. if that made the movies hours long so be it i would still watch

Mo’at dancing😭😭

Ah, that’s the book I have. 😁

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Жыл бұрын

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Do women avatars also go through this stage too?

Thought the title was “dream blunt rotation” lol

Honestly, pandora is what my utopia would look like….

I found this scene to be very reminiscent of an Ayahuasca journey, both in the way the psychedelic journey is achieved (a mix of two ingredients that amplify each others effects), and in the way it is profound and ecstatic but also, to put it mildly, not fun. The scorpion also reminded me of another type of real life ceremony that involves frog venom if I remember correctly. Most of the deleted scenes for Avatar were clearly better cut in my opinion, usually for pacing reasons or issues of redundancy or just not being that important, but I do wish they included this scene. I think the only reason it was left out in the end was because it was too weird. Which I get.

Toruk‘s only dangerous to his future rider tho

Story of earth really. Pandora was Lemuria

Thus why Technocracy is more preferable than Capitalism because in a technocracy, consumption of energy and resources have to fall within thermodynamics to keep a state of equilibrium while still being technologically advanced while being solarpunk thus having technology and nature coexist in balance.

I’m pretty sure the White Paint is Banshee Poop

3:41 "Awakening the Soul (2022) | An Ayahuasca Documentary (Full Film)" 😉 psssst.... i can also happen to u without taking anything... its called "kundalini awakening" Signs of Kundalini Awakening: Major Signs and Symptoms -Window to the Soul" 🤯 so are u a dream hunter? "recharche travellers HQ edit"

What I learned about native Americans culture is that each other is what culture is about the culture. The community is the culture and world that they have around them. They live in Respect River cards to as the only take like they need similar to the avatar. The humans in the movie more so act like leeches only taking what they want at any cost of the thing they are draining the life from. 😢 The stuff we make isn’t biodegrade or healthy for the earth. To synthetic fibers, synthetic Materials like ceramic and cement. Native s on our planet Have more understanding and respect for nature than the ones that came to them YEARS ago and even today. People think it’s all about stuff and money and it’s not Heck we don’t even have time for our families because of working for other greedy companies that all they want to do is “drive sales” The Natives nor Navi wanted to do that , they ahve eachother and the earth around them. They know the earth had everything they could possibly need to survive and thrive and they did (until the pleague) We stay stuck in our phones and in shopping malls at the expense of our own humanity And now they want to replace us with robots….

So basically u get spiritually high

Imagine if they brought coke to pandora

panteism! it's true

do a lo'ak explained

@BryceEdwardBrown

10 ай бұрын

Soon!

2:06 this part is just Native American smudging the movement the purposes of doing it is exactly the same

What would happen if you pop 3 of those glowy badboys

@johnyaxon__

10 ай бұрын

Leo Gura mod

Rip off of native american peyote ceromonys lol

the navi live like humans did thousands of years ago, the kind of existence we are Literally Built For and people out here go "OoOoo TriBaL LiFe bAd" . capitalism are a helluva drug

What a simplistic view of capitalism you have

im runnin out of your videos to watch, could we perhaps get a Norm explained? you would be the true living god 🫶🏻

Can't wait for James Cameron to do his Jack Snyder type release for the original Avatar...wouldn't it be sick for Weta digital to finish all those incomplete scene's? A release where we get Camerons ENTIRE vision for the movie? *sigh* if only 🥲

@harleyloraine7699

Жыл бұрын

God I wish he would do a Snyder release