Wanted to clarify my complaint about the zipper: Though not an issue at all, I have experienced some drag on the zipper when closing. The zippers Dream Hammock uses on the Darien model are YKK #3's. YKK is a VERY well known brand of zipper and makes one of the highest quality zippers in the world. As I said I was trying to find a complaint about this product like I do with all products I review. Dream Hammock will be able to direct you to different types of YKK zippers to fit your needs.

Awesome review. I've been rocking my Darien 1.2 robic xl for about a year now. Definately have put it through all sorts of situations, and have had no issues. I also would highly recommend the Darien, and Dreamhammocks. Keep those adventures coming amigo.

I got one of their Ready to Ship Darien hammocks. Shipped super fast. I’ve used in parks and can’t wait to test out while backpacking in Arkansas next month. Superior customer service with Randy and the rest of crew at Dream Hammock. Ask him anything and he will give you honest answers, no BS.

I have the dream hammock raven. I have gotten a great nights sleep every night I have slept in it. Dream hammock makes great products imo.

Awesome thanks brother just got my Darien a little while ago cant wait to test it out. Great videos keep them coming.

With the zipper..maybe try a crossbow rail lube or bowstring wax. They are easy to apply with no melting.

I have (and love) my DH Raven. But I just pulled the trigger on a Darien in the 1.2 fabric. I've lost a bit of weight this year, and can now (comfortably) try out this fabric. I'm really excited to give this hammock a shot, and see how the MTN 1.2 compares to Hyper D 1.6. I'm also curious to see if there is a noticeable difference in lay between the symmetrical Raven and Asym Darien. On another note, I think it would be great if you did a post AT thru hike review of your Darien, now that you really put it through its paces!

Good Review!👍 I've been using the Dream Hammock for a year now and love it. Only problem was the zipper once, but it has worked good ever since the Mohican meetup. I still do like Dutch's Half-Wit sometimes to save a little more pack space and weight.

Thanks to mom somuch for helping out

This looks like a great product. But, as someone new to hammocks, the customization part is intimating. Once I know better what I like and need, I'll revisit the Dream folks. I love supporting quality driven small, Made In USA, companies. Thanks for the review!

Another great video. I’m 6’2” and have been using the WBBB XLC. I’ve been looking at trying to save a few more ounces in my setup. I’ve been on the fence between the Dutch halfwit and the Darien DH. So thanks for the video to help give me a few more things to think about...I may never decided lol

Awesome review! Thanks for the discount...I’m about to go check them out.

Great review! Thinking of switching from ENO to this one. I have registered for my 2020 thru-hike starting 24 Feb at Amicolola Falls. :)

I actually have an original blackbird, like you had. Why have you change ? What are the Darien benefits compare to WB blackbird that make you change ?

I'm looking to order a hammock right now and I think you might have convinced me. I like that they are local to me (like only 30 min away)

Great review. Maybe I missed it, but I noticed you are 5' 6" and 150 pounds max. Do they make hammocks for tall and hefty guys? I'm sure I'll lose plenty of poundage on the trail, but I'm starting at 6' 3", 250 pounds. My plan was to buy a 2 or even 3 person tent for enough room to bring in my gear with me. I had no clue about this new hammock technology. What's your advice for big guys? Stick with the tent plan or explore the world of hammocks?

Great review. Living in the desert, my close hiking choices lacks trees for the most part unless going to Mt. Charleston or any other place high enough to reach tree line. I am attracted to the idea of a hammock system that would shed out some weight in the future. My sleep system is Thermarest Neo Air Max for winter, I have couple other options for summer like Neo Air lite, also Exped mats and such, ranging from under a pound to 3+pound depending on the pad; the Neo Air Max is about 2 pounds, then I got an EE Quilt Evolution 20 degree around 24 oz. then tent is Zpack Duplex Camo version that with poles included is about 2 pounds; so in the sleeping system alone I have around 7 pounds give it or take, depending on pad used; I can not sleep on those Thermarest accordion mats as they are way too thin. The issues I see for having a hammock for me is that i am a side sleeper and I toss and turn a lot, that is why I do not use sleep bags; I feel like in a coffin on them. I have never tried a hammock but I do not think they are made for side sleepers are they? Going from my system to an all hammock system as Dariem may offer in future may shed few pounds in carrying weight?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

I side sleep a lot. I actually have a video about it if you are interested. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWeIurawoaWyebw.html

@geraldhenrickson7472

2 жыл бұрын

Anymore I carry a pad at all times. AND take my hammock in the desert. My luxury item I guess.

So many hammock options, paralysis by analysis

Dream hammock is awesome! Love my Darien

Can you do a comparison video between the Darien and the Black Bird? I own a black bird and couldn't imagine not having a shelf in my hammock now. Is the Darien really that much more comfortable?

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

There's no comparing the 2. I like the features that the Blackbird hammock has but I do sleep better in the Darien. If you are getting a good nights sleep in the Warbonnet then stick with it. But just know the asym design offers a really flat lay.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

This is the second comment about this. So I will make a video in the near future.

@BobPreis

6 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures WBBB is asym too. Headbox, footbox, same as Dream. But only one pullout.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

@@BobPreis you are correct. Warbonnet sews the bugnet on the foot end to make it seems asym. The head end is a little different though but it's forced to asym because the bugnet pulls out as well. If you take the bugnet off though (warbonnet traveler you will find that it's just a symmetrical hammock at that point.

Great review and a awesome looking hammock.

Glad you put the bloopers in

Thanks "Frozen" for sharing!!! I've shared it in the official "Dream Hammock Dreamers" Facebook group. I really would like to have you as a member!

My DH Darien 11' and wide as possible without pullouts I have no issues with bugnet in the face. I'm 5' 11". I wonder if your width choice causes that?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Might be my lay.

An Outdoor Adventures video? I’m a happy dude! 😎

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Wanted to get this out early for the coupon code.

@dwayneg8486

6 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures Love that mod deleting one pullout and the cord lock on the shock cord. Time to pull out Sparrow.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

You might have 2 this week =P

Hi, thanks for your reviews it helps me a lot, what is the most light weight asymetrical hammock now ? I remember you said asymetrical hammocks are more flat and confortable.

Very good video. Very good review. Very good product. What quilt name brand is your choice of preference? Thank you so much for sharing this video. God bless you.

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

I've used Enlightened Equipment and Hammock Gear both are similar now with me preferring the length of Hammock Gear a little better than EE.

I also dont like the zipper on my Darien. I believe they use a #3 zipper standard (don't quote me though) Maybe see if they can use a #5 or #8 zipper instead. I prefer the zipper Dutch has on his chameleon and half zipped-but don't expect them to ever use them on their products. Rumor has it there's bad blood between them.

I learn so much from your videos!!

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Glad I can help!

Would appreciate a compare and contrast of WBBB to Darien.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

This is the second comment about this. So I will make a video in the near future.

@thomaszabel1521

5 жыл бұрын

I second this comment. Since it was the second comment, did I really third it?

@sdlopez83

5 жыл бұрын

Bump

@graceanne6780

5 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures have you made this video yet? If so, I can't find it. I am leaving for Europe in a few weeks and am down to choosing between these two hammocks

@Macdivers1

5 жыл бұрын

I have the WBBB. After seeing the review of it the added shelf is better. Now that the WB XLC now has the foot entry and exit it is superior to the Dream. I've had no jamming issue with the zipper or wear on the bug net. Skeeters can't bite between double layers.

Now that you’ve worked with this, have you ever wanted to have a totally removable bug net like the sparrow or do you think the Darien is good enough with the half attached bug net?

When you want to leave the bug net on the Darien open, is it just a matter of draping the zippered side over the ridge line? Is there any way to secure it in the open position? How effective is it staying open in the “net less” mode?

Can you mix and match underquilts to hammocks? I wanna get a hammock tent, but don't want a pad and I don't camp in anything too cold.

@FrozensAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely you can mix and match. I like ha.mock gear quilts and dream hammock hammocks. Good luck! I'll be happy to answer any specific questions.

Hey Frozen, I just wanted to say that I am new to hiking over the past few months and have learned pretty much everything I need to get started in this hobby from your channel. I have been getting gear together to start going on multiple day overnight trips starting in the spring, will be mostly solo. I have watched most of your hiking videos multiple times because I enjoy then and they are a great resource when getting ideas to plan trips. I ended up getting the Darien in 1.6HD and recently just got it. Is your hammock a right lay? I'm not positive which way I should lay in it. Should my head be by the zipper where the dream hammock tag is? Just want to make sure I'm laying in it correctly.

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Yes typically your head goes to the bugnet. Glad I could be of assistance getting you started!

After a few years of use how is #3 zippers holding up? Do you think its worth weight saving & maybe less durability over #5 zipper.

@FrozensAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

After a full AT thru hike I day the hammock I can say is holding up perfectly. Absolutely no issues. 150 nights in the hammock.

Could you please make a video on how to pack the quanfeng qf hammock with the mosquito back up into the bag ? As I have just bought that exact hammock please and thank you overall what are you're thoughts on it?

@FrozensAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Just stuff it in. Not much to explain.

Man, you must be so antsy for the AT. Can’t even imagine.

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

I really am going stir crazy. I feel like time is going soooo slow :(

@NostalgicLink

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Oh, I was looking into hammocks for a thruhike of the AT I'm planning to do come April. How did it go? Why'd you choose the Darien over the Sparrow or Raven or other companies' offerings? I can't figure out if I want a symmetrical or asymmetrical system, as I've never owned a hammock. I've been in a couple of cheap ones in the backyard of friends' places. I just know I don't want to use a tent.

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Start on my beginner hammock camping playlist and dream hammock Darien review. It's a lot to type out!

@NostalgicLink

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures I found out afterwards that you have a whole series on your AT hike and began watching those videos. I have watched the Darian review, but still wasn't sure why you chose it over the Sparrow or Raven or other companies' offerings. I also understand that asymmetrical lets you lay flat but limits which ways you can lay. When I've seen people review the symmetrical Raven, they only say it allows them to lay however they want. They don't clarify whether or not they can lay as flat as they can in an asymmetrical setup. If you can't lay flat in a symmetrical hammock, why would you care if you could lay whichever way, if you're going to end up being a banana, if that is the case? Because they seem to like the symmetrical setup, it's almost as if they are able to lay flat AND in whichever direction they want without having to flip the hammock. That makes me wonder why anyone would choose an asymmetrical setup. That's my point of confusion.

What caused you to change from the blackbird? I’m assuming the weight. I have the xlc and I love it. Come to think of it I purchased it and my enlightened equipment quilts based on your videos. Happy with both. Last year I upgraded my winter quilts and went with a Wooki. I’d had the enlightened equipment slide off about once per night. I think the shelf interfered with it. But I swear I’m warmer with the 30 degree e.e. Than the 0 degree wooki.

Hi Frozen! Have you done an update about your current hammock setup? Like you, I have a Plexamid but I’m interested in getting an ultralight hammock and tarp, so I’d love to know your current recommendations. Thanks!

@FrozensAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Same exact hammock setup. It works great.

@DIYPackraft

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Thanks!

Man, I really want to like hammock camping but I just can't get over the weights lol. Didn't think I was an ultralight snob, but fuck they're heavy.

@FrozensAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Baseweight on my hammock setup 3 season gear is 8.9lbs. it's not heavy but heavier than a light tent setup.

Another great video. Any thoughts on the dream hammock sparrow?

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

It all depends on the features you want. The last few times I've used a top cover (dutchware winter sock) I experienced way too much condensation. That experience made me switch to a netless hammock for the winter and I just shut my tarp doors if wind becomes a problems. For 3 season I don't want to remove my bugnet so the Darien works perfect for my needs. Everyone has different needs though. Based on the quality of the worksmanship I assume the Sparrow would be a great hammock as well.

Somebody is hitting that gym your chest is getting pumped shit buddy your a HOG keep up the pump its working. I use a protein whey its awesome a lot of pro's use it (Muscletech) $40.00 for a 5 lb. jug (plastic). Thanks for the video I'm at that crossroads tent or hammock, you've made it easier for my choice. Aloha Kekoa Jason. Big Duke

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

A little bit of muscle a little bit of fat haha

Have you try the Warbonnet Wookie UQ with your Darian ?

Thanks for the review! I am considering this for my first “real” camping hammock. They have a 1.6 oz RTS version for $110. I bought a cheap hammock to try camping with, but it’s not a fair shake, since it’s not really designed for camping. I’m not too concerned about the extra weight of the 1.6 fabric, but I keep wondering if I should get it customized. Any thoughts? I’m 5’10”, 200lbs. PS - So stocked to follow you on the AT, man!

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

For sure get it custom to fit your personality!

@steves3760

5 жыл бұрын

Email Randy at DH. I'm 5'11" @ 240. He recommended a fabric for my height and weight. Ended up with the Sparrow and absolutely love it. Go to the Dream Hammock website and look up order number 7767. All of the stats are there. It's about 66" wide, 11 feet long. Perfect!

My question kind of fits your new to hammock series as well. For a newbie how do you navigate through the option on cottage vendors? Same for quilts an tarps. I can't be the only one that can only afford to purchase one time. You know "buy once, cry once" I took a chance and got a Black Bird xlc hammock from what you have said and what others have said. See I have no idea what different fabrics are like and what the advantages are. I understand the numbering system from your video and more about bug net material. For me I look at durability as i will have it for a long while. Love your videos Thanks. Bruce from the City of Orange in Orange county California.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

I know there are a lot of new cottage vendors since I got into the game. Honestly I've never heard anything bad about any "made in america" vendors. Just pay attention to reviews online. For fabric choices usually vendors tell you about what the fabrics properties are. you can also check reviews for most fabrics on ripstopbytheroll.com Have you heard of reddit there are many subtopics (sub reddits) you can ask other users for their experience on all different types of products.

@fergusrb

5 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures no i have not is reddit a foram?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Yes Reddit is a giant forum group. Check it out

@fergusrb

5 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures Thanks

Hey Frozen! I recently got a Darien because of your love for it. I am in the market for an underquilt for it. I know you have tried some different ones. Is there one that you would recommend? I would want a full size Thanks! Mark

Did you think about the Peak Bag option when you ordered? Do you think they're unnecessary if you have a ridgeline organizer, or do you see some benefit to them?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

In the winter I see a benefit for the peak bag to store extra clothing. 3 season weather I think a rl organizer is fine.

I just recently got a Darien. I ordered with tie out hooks. What size and kind of shock chord works well for you for the tie outs?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

It should have came with the shock cord. Shoot DH an email they will be glad to help you. I don't want to tell you the wrong size.

I’ve heard rubbing a bar of soap on the zippers helps to

I want to buy one- do you get a commission if I reference you?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Nope but they might give me another coupon code to give out to.my viewers if you say you came from my channel.

Is the Robic 1.2 still firm if you're above 200 lbs or is it recommended to get the thicker material?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Best to ask dream hammock.

Ok, so what's your favorite? Dream or War Bonnet?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Warbonnet when they offered the 1.2 fabric. Dream hammock because of all the customization. If I could take the dream hammock body and have the pulled out bugnet of the warbonnet. It would be the ultimate hammock.

Where did you get your Ridgeline Organizer? Does it support water bottle through the bottom?

@steves3760

5 жыл бұрын

Re watch the video. He explained it. Plus DH sells them.

I was just ordering this as my first hammock, but the 10 week lead time has me thinking about ordering the 11’ x 58” ready to ship Darien. Im the exact build as you, and am curious if the 1’ longer will compensate for not getting 60”+ width? Thank you for all your help

Is this a single or a double?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Single

I didn't find 1.2 "Robic XL" on their site: www.dreamhammock.com/fabric.html. Is Robic XL the same as 1.2 "MTN XL Hybrid"?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

It looks like the name changed yes. You might want to email dream hammock about the name though as it might not exhibit my findings in this review.

@nomsolo9935

5 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Thanks. Have you performed any tests with underquilts on your wide-bodied Darien? Based on this video, kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpeksLBxpdKXgpM.html, I have gathered that the additional width from "XL" fabrics like Robic XL and MTN XL is moot once you're constrained to an underquilt's dimensions. Perhaps the one exception to this is a torso length underquilt with a short pad for your legs.

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

I had my hammock cut down to 61" width and haven't had an issue. Wider fabrics could pose a problem but I believe you can get wider underquilts as well or simply a longer hammock allowing you to not have to lay at an extreme angle.

By the way exit video on the dream hammock

What type of tarp do you recommend for your dream hammock?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

I like my LiteAF DCF tarp. But any 11' tarp will work for a 10' hammock.

@Wondering_Fireball

4 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures , according to their website they recommend a 11’ hammock because I’m 6’ tall. So you size the tarp to be 1’ longer than the hammock? Is that the rule of thumb?

It's a zipper. The best sound of camping!

Very good review

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Get back on the AT soldier!

@GucciGirlandGrumpy

6 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Shenandoah is closed again

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Gucci Girl and Grumpy Yea I heard. That really sucks!

any problem with mozzies biting though the fabric ?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it can happen yes. You can spray the hammock with permethrin or use an underquilt.

@zzlee6411

5 жыл бұрын

I Have a double layer Blackbird XLC. I whey 235 and 6 foot tall so its a good choice fore me here in Canada. We have lots of flies .

Lol I just ordered a Darien a week ago!

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Shoot DH an email and see if you can use the code.

@chrisburnett7646

6 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures will definitely be talking to Deanna!

I remember that you commented in another video that you were unhappy that your ridgeline organizer only had pockets on one side. I make my own so I can have it the way I want. maybe your mother can help you out on that if you want to change it

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

It's been fine with 3 season gear. In the winter I'm going to add a loop and attach my clothes dry bag to the head end of the hammock for extra storage.

@flashmanv3260

5 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Hammock gear makes a nice ridgeline organizer that has pockets on both sides as well as a big long pocket in the center good for a phone or water bottle.

@survivaltrotter-com

5 жыл бұрын

@@flashmanv3260 Dream Hammock also makes one like that and I love it.

Since I live in Ohio I should check out dream hammock I might have to get a better night's sleep

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

If you are coming to the meetup I'm sure you can try a few out lol

@trailbeaneradventures5581

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely check out Dreamhammock. If not a Darien, they have multiple options to fit your specific needs

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Deanna Smith Could I possibly take you up on a tour of the workshop on October 7th? I'll be coming back from the Mohican State Forest meetup and it would actually be on the way home from me.

Hey Frozen how long are the shock cord pull outs

Let's go

Why having choose the Darien model instead of Sparrow or the Raven ?

@steves3760

5 жыл бұрын

It's a lighter option. The Sparrow is the heaviest. I have a Sparrow and have ordered my second. For my purpose the weight doesn't matter. But I'm not counting ounces and grams. The Sparrow symmetrical is super comfortable though. I love mine

@NostalgicLink

4 жыл бұрын

@@steves3760 I don't have ANY hammocks to figure out what I want, but I have narrowed my decision down to either the DH Darien, Sparrow, or Raven. I think I would prefer symmetrical, but IDK. IDK if I'm going to hate being forced to sleep one way in an asymmetric design, so I think I'd like symmetrical, but I've also gathered that they don't lay as flat, but maybe they do if you get one long and wide enough, but then I'm worried about it being too big for me and the net falling in my face. I'm 5'7", 150lbs. I want to do a thruhike of the AT using a hammock system, so lighter and smaller is better, but comfort and durability have more weight for me. If I go for symmetrical, then it's between a Raven and Sparrow. The only differences I can see between them are that the Raven doesn't zip all the way around and the bug net is loose on the ends for some reason, with shock cordage to keep it closed. The other difference is that you can't get UQ hooks added on the Raven for some reason. What're your thoughts?

@steves3760

4 жыл бұрын

@@NostalgicLink I would personally email Randy at Dream Hammock. They helped me out with fabric, length and width according to my height and weight. They seem not bothered at all with my endless questions and the few changes I've made during the process. Living in Florida I did not want a lose bug net when I wasn't in my hammock because of the various insects (that aren't all friendly) we have so that was one of my biggest factors in choosing the Sparrow. Good luck friend.

@NostalgicLink

4 жыл бұрын

@@steves3760 I had already emailed Randy and gotten a suggestion for an 11' Darien, but I'm really not sure if the asymmetric design would bother me. I do think I'd rather have a full enclosure. I really don't understand what is the purpose of the loose bug net ends on the Raven. Any idea?

@steves3760

4 жыл бұрын

@@NostalgicLink Why yes! I started off with a Grand Trunk Skeeter Beeter Pro. It is a very comfortable and symmetrical hammock with a bug net. I bought it at Optics Planet for $35 or $40. I ended up with a couple. The only problem I had was after a few night caps I would fall out as it is a budget hammock and.a little painful to set up. But, it lead me on the search for the best custom hammock I wanted. I'll always have my Grand Trunk's. They are awesome. Give one a shot. Don't forget to purchase straps. Don't forget, in a symmetrical hammock you lay on the diagonal. I appreciate the extra fabric to offer wind resistance and a little extra storage in my hammock. These are my two cents. Randy is in the business to make his customers happy and to make hammocks. That's why he's very patient answering questions. Have more? Just ask.

Quit overthinking