Drawing Ellipses in perspective - rotating and placing them

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Let's take another look at ellipses because we can't have enough videos on them. In this video, I talk more about moving and placing ellipses in perspective and 3D space.
00:00 - Intro
00:14 - Short recap on ellipses
01:01 - Displacement of ellipses in perspective
04:22 - Ellipses and cylinders in perspective
09:11 - Rule of thumb to rotate cylinders
15:54 - Rotating a cylinder around a point
18:36 - Example 1
21:16 - Placing cylinders(ellipses in perspective)
24:11 - Example 2
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  • @keelobrown4991
    @keelobrown49912 жыл бұрын

    Thank god someone finally made a video on elipses that isnt simply "draw it in a plane" with nothing else added.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you find this helpful!

  • @gamerlegend2568

    @gamerlegend2568

    11 ай бұрын

    @Robert Laszlo Kiss thank you soooo much

  • @shwetachoudhari2940

    @shwetachoudhari2940

    3 ай бұрын

    Soooo helpful. Thank you

  • @AbiNomac
    @AbiNomac Жыл бұрын

    This is BRILLIANT. I haven’t seen ellipses explained like THIS. God bless you!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you found it useful!

  • @yararocha6661
    @yararocha6661 Жыл бұрын

    This is gold video. Thank you so much Mr. Robert!

  • @chrysanthemumjames7047
    @chrysanthemumjames7047 Жыл бұрын

    Best video on ellipses and cylinders I have watched. Thank you so much, I feel blessed to have stumbled upon this video. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a very much wider and clearer understanding of drawing cylinders in perspective. You are very good at teaching Robert. It was totally worth my time, God bless you, sir

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Tha k you very much for this lovely comment, I'm glad you found the video useful!

  • @kiokik7457
    @kiokik74572 жыл бұрын

    I know this was more of a explanation video but these are some good exercise to practice as well. Thank you for the video!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, that is a good point! And thanks glad you liked the video!

  • @juniper8310
    @juniper8310 Жыл бұрын

    You know the tutorials gonna be good when u see how he draws circles 😳

  • @meryemmuratoglu7272
    @meryemmuratoglu72722 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much, your explanation was really very detailed.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Күн бұрын

    I'm happy to read that!

  • @ufotvgr
    @ufotvgr10 ай бұрын

    you have no idea how much you help me with your videos, thank you so much

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    10 ай бұрын

    These are the comments I love to read. Thanks.

  • @alianhoggarth
    @alianhoggarth4 ай бұрын

    this is the best guide of drawing perspective I've ever seen 🤧💘

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    4 ай бұрын

    Happy to hear that :)

  • @kristrappeniers
    @kristrappeniers2 жыл бұрын

    I never got this, because of its highly counterintuitive nature. Thanks for clearing this out. Keep up the good work!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that this was helpful!

  • @ObadaF
    @ObadaF2 жыл бұрын

    Omg man!!!...I literally had a drawing project for college and I was suppodsed to draw eclipses mostly, the deadline was literally today...and now you upload the vid..Im sooo saaaaad😭😭

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry mate but maybe it is still helpful for the future ;)

  • @ObadaF

    @ObadaF

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss it is helpful already✌🔥

  • @enthusiastning8229
    @enthusiastning82292 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this clear & impressive tutorial guide.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you like it!

  • @travisnguyen1475
    @travisnguyen14758 ай бұрын

    thank a lot, your explain is clearly

  • @user-xi3zt1vt9e
    @user-xi3zt1vt9e Жыл бұрын

    This so far the best explanation on ellipses work. Robert thanks to you and your channel, good job.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to hear it was useful!

  • @priyankatewariabc
    @priyankatewariabc Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a ton! This really helped!

  • @rewguy8373
    @rewguy83732 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent KZread. You were very detailed about ellipses. There are some really good tips on how to draw tires so that I can achieve my dream of being an automotive designer for Tesla someday. Thanks for the help.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully by then they will get rid of Elon.

  • @Kakirachan
    @Kakirachan Жыл бұрын

    I LOVED this! Thank you for building this tutorial in such an intuitive format. Please make more art fundamental guides ❤❤❤

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you found it useful!

  • @ObadaF
    @ObadaF2 жыл бұрын

    Love your work🔥💚

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :)

  • @xemoni2682
    @xemoni26823 ай бұрын

    Omg, I just started the book How to Draw by Scott Robertson and Thomas Bertling. And let me tell you this video clarified so much of what I'm learning. I'm so grateful, thank you!!!

  • @D22oyd
    @D22oyd Жыл бұрын

    This definitely helps!

  • @queldar27
    @queldar272 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to so thoroughly explain this topic. Also, please note that a perfect circle is also a band. You're welcome.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha a thank you for that XD

  • @nourmustafa9873
    @nourmustafa9873 Жыл бұрын

    this is the best explanation i came across as a bigenner , it's the most simple direst one among the other tutorials i've watched , thank u so much great content

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm very happy to hear that it was useful!

  • @gingerale2285
    @gingerale22856 ай бұрын

    I've already watched a ton of how to draw an ellipse in perspective but I never got the theory behind it 'til I watched this video. Thank you!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    6 ай бұрын

    Very happy to hear that you found it useful!

  • @nowirehangers2815
    @nowirehangers2815 Жыл бұрын

    Been searching EVERYWHERE Finally! Thank you 😊

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy you found d what you were looking for

  • @nowirehangers2815

    @nowirehangers2815

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss I did and your channel is a blessing Thank you so much

  • @christinachampion8678
    @christinachampion86782 жыл бұрын

    The most comprehensive and insightful explanation of the elipse. Excellent! No one has ever explained it, this well before. You rocked dude.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, I'm always happy to read these type of comments ^_^

  • @MoolsDogTwoOfficial
    @MoolsDogTwoOfficialАй бұрын

    This is very helpful! Thank you 👍

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @userGGG702
    @userGGG7022 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much

  • @praneetakki
    @praneetakki Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much you really made it very clear.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to hear it helped!

  • @shenziswan
    @shenziswan Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video! I was having trouble drawing ellipses in general, let alone in perspective, this helped me a lot!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to hear that!

  • @jpjpart
    @jpjpart2 ай бұрын

    So good, best video I have seen

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @paulcalhoun6339
    @paulcalhoun63397 ай бұрын

    Simply the best video on this subject I have found. New subscriber here. Fantastic

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @Indian_Armed_Forces_Edits
    @Indian_Armed_Forces_EditsАй бұрын

    hey bud! Thanks for the lecture, everything was placed perfectly in the video which made the concept of ellipses clear to me✌🙏

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Ай бұрын

    I'm happy to read that!

  • @mrjuicegamer
    @mrjuicegamer Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much ❤

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @thaonganvu5123
    @thaonganvu5123 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your helpful informations

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it was helpful!

  • @kidark6721
    @kidark67212 күн бұрын

    看完以后,只有一个感受,我的脑子!!!在风暴!然后,必须得跟着训练,不然根本不懂= = 。谢谢!

  • @lifesence71
    @lifesence718 ай бұрын

    man this is really helpful, thanks a lot.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    8 ай бұрын

    Happy to read that :)

  • @HappinessGuano
    @HappinessGuano Жыл бұрын

    Holy mushrooms, I wish I had learned this in college. Thank you! I teach my students "circles are squishy", but now I have a more technical way of showing rather than just flat planes

  • @jonpritzker9709
    @jonpritzker97092 ай бұрын

    Oh my good, thank you so much, whenever I’ve been drawing cylinder cross sections I’ve just kept the ellipses parallel / similar. I just go to this viewpoint perspective with cubes, but thank you so much for pointing out the obvious, that lmao this applies to circles as well. I was subconsciously struggling with this, thank you for clarifying. Within first ten seconds, I exclaimed out loud, “ohhhhhhh!”

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you found the video useful, on the fundamental level everything is interconnected :)

  • @juancarloscorrea2395
    @juancarloscorrea23953 ай бұрын

    where were you all my life? this is such a masterclass lol ! thank u so very much

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    3 ай бұрын

    Hehe thanks, glad you found the video useful :)

  • @loses8525
    @loses85252 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @cofeeval
    @cofeeval4 ай бұрын

    Great video, I finally understand 🎉🎉🎉

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    4 ай бұрын

    Happy to read that!

  • @eliaol4231
    @eliaol42312 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @enzogeee
    @enzogeee4 ай бұрын

    thank you so much.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @leticiaruiz5860
    @leticiaruiz58602 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a LOT! 😀

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @ayoscheese
    @ayoscheese2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope it it will be helpful!

  • @carlomichael186
    @carlomichael186 Жыл бұрын

    I am a beginer and this is fabolus thank you !!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see it helps!

  • @kavithatandur75
    @kavithatandur756 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot sir

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    6 ай бұрын

    Hope it was helpful!

  • @shadow2002
    @shadow2002 Жыл бұрын

    thank you it was helpful

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to read that!

  • @a.p.5004
    @a.p.50043 ай бұрын

    Thank you soooo sooo much finaly I understand😅🎉

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm very happy to hear that!

  • @bappyrahman2006
    @bappyrahman2006 Жыл бұрын

    This is what I am searching for

  • @samankucher5117
    @samankucher51172 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @user-eu9ir4uh6c
    @user-eu9ir4uh6c7 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @calithoskooijstra3338
    @calithoskooijstra33382 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this great video, the cilinder part is still a litte hard for me but I can watch it twice :p Greetz

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't watch it too often I have been known to cause headaches when consumed too much :P

  • @m.rosariomartinez9492
    @m.rosariomartinez94927 ай бұрын

    The "Rotating a cylinder around a point" ALMOST GOT ME UNDERSTANDING THE PART I NEVER UNDERSTAND ABOUT ELLIPSES. Why on Earth do I tilt the axis as, according to what principle or logic????? How, when, how much? Do you have any video that is specifically about that, or do you know of one??? Because honestly, it has become the bane of my existance.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    7 ай бұрын

    Not sure I get the question. You rotate the axis when you want to rotate it. I don't know what your reason for that is XD

  • @m.rosariomartinez9492

    @m.rosariomartinez9492

    7 ай бұрын

    @@robertlkiss 😂NO, I obviously don't rotate the axis when *I* want to rotate it. I do not control the ellipse. No, I'm just kidding, your video is awesome and after watching it I saw another one and it all came together 🧡 So thank you, and thanks for replying as well. Best wisheeeeeeeeeeees

  • @julesmartin6972
    @julesmartin69728 ай бұрын

    Super useful video. One little mistake, mayor axis is not a line of symmetry. Sometimes it is but usually not.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks but I’m pretty sure it is for the cylinder that is revolved around it.

  • @nidaroshuskies1135
    @nidaroshuskies11352 жыл бұрын

    This helped me alot :D You should turn off your auto-focus on your camera btw ;) If you manually focus on the sketch you avoid blurring when you move your hands up and down or away from the camera. Friendly tip :)

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to hear it was useful! Sadly I had to do a lot of retakes and by the final one I forgot to turn off the autofocus, usually, it is off.

  • @alexandra5127
    @alexandra5127 Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t get any boys till I watched this video. Thankyou

  • @miklospinter
    @miklospinter2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This is a great tutorial! The only thing that might be a little confusing is the glass you have used as example. It looks much wider in the top than in the bottom, but when you start drawing in perspective, those are supposed to be perfect (straight) cylinders, right? So in my opinion, a straight glass with constant thickness would have been better for the demonstration. But I guess you don't have any, do you? :D

  • @valentincarrillo8314

    @valentincarrillo8314

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you can make a better video with a straight glass

  • @miklospinter

    @miklospinter

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@valentincarrillo8314 Me? No.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I see what you mean sadly I had no such glasses in my house XD all our glasses have a slight taper to them.

  • @elrichmc5336
    @elrichmc5336 Жыл бұрын

    yo, I have a question. What would happen if when looking directly at the top of the cylinder instead of aprefect circle, it were an elipse? I hope I made myself clear

  • @seokinchung
    @seokinchung7 ай бұрын

    7:50 what you are drawing there is not a rotated cylinder. It is more like top and bottom face (circles) tilted on parallel tubes. Because if straight lines are connecting to one vanishing point, it means those lines are parallel to each other.

  • @rooftopdwelr
    @rooftopdwelr2 жыл бұрын

    Succccch good content .

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @alexr4222
    @alexr42222 жыл бұрын

    Cool!!!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @yoppyzx
    @yoppyzx Жыл бұрын

    Is there an industrial design textbook on sketching that you recommend? Did this method come from a book?

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    I always recommend Scott Robertson and Koos Eissen's books

  • @yoppyzx

    @yoppyzx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss Thank you. Always appreciate the Black Cat collection in the back :) . Comfy vids!

  • @hiramesensei3112
    @hiramesensei31122 жыл бұрын

    The man speaks the truth, my ellipses drawing skills got me my first wife.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha well who would have thunk XD

  • @allanjohnson9121
    @allanjohnson912129 күн бұрын

    How do you know what angle to put that perpendicular line? Can't figure that bit

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    29 күн бұрын

    It has to be perpendicular on the axis

  • @chandandolai7022
    @chandandolai70223 ай бұрын

    As you mentioned kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKOt1MeskZW_YcY.html, as the eclipses move towards the vanishing point, they become more circular. Consequently, if I were to draw a circle halfway to the vanishing point and subsequently add another cylinder behind the initial one, how would the overall depiction appear?

  • @knightdroid4715
    @knightdroid4715 Жыл бұрын

    So does it also mean that the side left and right of the cylinder always parallel to each other? Meaning both side have the same degree no matter the perspective?

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes … ish. Imagine having your cylinder in a rectangle, and your cylinder fits perfectly in it. WIll the sides of the rectanglebe parallel to each other? The only case they are not if one of the sides is slanted differently, has a wedge or something. And disregards this if you are still at the beginning of your journey and this is more confusing then helping, but when you draw in perspective nothing is paralalel because everything is running towards one perspective point. So in that case the anwser is no, becaue the ellipse(in this case the side) that is further away from you is always slightly more open(meaning the minor axis is a little bit longer)

  • @knightdroid4715

    @knightdroid4715

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss Thank you so much, I really appreciate this. Gonna read and understand this more.

  • @theapexpredator157
    @theapexpredator1574 ай бұрын

    I agree that these may not all be hard and fast rules... Although it may be that Ellipses have their Minor Axis point to a VP, I've seen an image that would suggest that this may not always be true... It's a bit disappointing because I really like to have Absolute Truths to go off of...

  • @avimation8786
    @avimation8786 Жыл бұрын

    I just wanna know How do i draw elongated(not perfect circle) ellipses in perspective, and the minor axis technique only works with perfect circles in perspective.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    The technique works for every ellipse that is on an axis. If you wanna draw loose ellipses then you have to reference the geometry around the ellipse for perspective.

  • @avimation8786

    @avimation8786

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss o i see, you mean dividing the rectangle into several parts and placing the ellipse as measurements in the rectangle. Thank you for the advice.

  • @martiantony777
    @martiantony7772 жыл бұрын

    There should be a challenge about ellipses, like there is about boxes!

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    People would hate it, I just heard you say it and I hate it XD

  • @martiantony777

    @martiantony777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertlkiss after you said it, I started to hate the idea too ,😂

  • @ghazala9866
    @ghazala9866 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine teaching a guy about elipses in perspective and he falls for you🤓😂

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't fall for internet people they are all fake :P

  • @Andrew-rz9ck
    @Andrew-rz9ck2 жыл бұрын

    Marshall Vandruff says in his perspective videos the fastest way to see if an artist is untrained is to look at their ellipses. So if you think gosh I don't want people to think Im untrained then you should properly learn your ellipses.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is probably spot on

  • @58elrond
    @58elrond Жыл бұрын

    Where did you learn that ellipses are more circular the closer they are to the vanishing point? I don't remember that being in How-to-Draw,, maybe its really intuitive, but i haven't ever thought of it like this, so thanks! have been really struggling drawing multiple simple forms in space with different vanishing points with high accuracy,,, such as 3 detailed curvy space ships in the same scene at different xyz angles, this trick helps alot! Any recommendations for this kind of drawing? (multiple rotated objects in space?) example at 21:41 how do you pick where all the vanishing points are going to be accurately? say for a mechs

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    Ellipses are only more circular going towards a vanishing point if they are part of a cylinder, and the central axis of that cylinder(which forms the minor axis of the cylinder's ellipses) is pointing towards that vanishing point. And i guess I learned this by observation, and later during industrial design sketching classes.

  • @Suppboio
    @Suppboio2 жыл бұрын

    i feel insecure about me drawing with my arm instead of my fingers/wrist.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes of course because it's not something you are used to, the more you use it the better you will get at it.

  • @olfo4100
    @olfo4100 Жыл бұрын

    I picked up so many girls since I know more about drawing ellipses😅

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    Жыл бұрын

    There you go i knew people will finally see it's power!

  • @sewoh100
    @sewoh10018 сағат бұрын

    I hate to be that guy, but you're not drawing the center point of the circle in perspective, you're drawing the center point of the elipse itself. Now that might not seem to make a difference but it does! You can find the center of an elipse by drawing a box around it in the same perspective and drawing diagonals through the center of the box. What this looks like, is the center of the circle being off-center from the center point of the elipse.

  • @robertlkiss

    @robertlkiss

    17 сағат бұрын

    Technically the center of an ellipse is not exactly in the center of the box that you draw around it. I made that mistakes in one of my previous videos and had a mend it. If Tha is what you are talking about.

  • @Bagel-er5qh
    @Bagel-er5qh Жыл бұрын

    🐵

  • @Prototype9871
    @Prototype9871 Жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what this guys is talking about. I feel he is over complicating something that is simple

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