ADD RATHBUN TO THE MANUFACTURERS CUP AS HIMSELF

"First winner this season that isn't from Discraft or Discmania" MVP - "Am I a joke to you?"

@HacimBricks

2 ай бұрын

I think when they said "winner" they meant manufacturer who got the most points at an event. And even though Simon won music city, overall Discraft still got more points from having players in 2nd, 3rd, and 7th place.

Guys.. on the DGPT Europe we have 6 Silver events and 5 Elite series events. Belgian Open (happened May 3.-5.) was a Silver, and the upcoming Copenhagen Open is an Elite series. From the Silver series you only get points for the DGPT Europe tour, not for the main DGPT.

Hey guys. I was the spotter on 16. I've been playing 10+ years and knew that Missy's disc was in. 100%. I would never have called that disc OB for anyone. The island had paint, string, and then the land itself. Because of all of this, we were told to let the players play. Obviously with the heat of the playoff things were magnified. I understand Brian's criticism and frustration in the moment. Thinking back about it, I probably should have waved the green flag for Hailey's game and decision making. Watching Jomez and seeing Missy getting in her head a bit, I wish I would have waved green for her as well. I was in the moment, wanted to stay off of cameras as much as possible (as instructed), and felt like the "IDK" call would have the least amount of impact to the players. Definitely think green would have been better for both player's mental game. In the end, I'm glad it didn't impact anything. In my opinion, if the players and DGN/DGPT staff wants official rulings in those situations (320' from the players) they need to hire officials and not utilize volunteer spotters that have been standing in 50 degrees weather in the rain and 20mph winds for 10 hours. (also, not the Star Wars guy. He's much cooler than me.)

@prattacaster

2 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with everything you say having been a spotter 2 years at MCO. If it was too close to call Hailey has got to assume it IN. No matter what she was going to try to stick the green even if Missy was OB. Good on DDO for giving you some sort of instruction. MCO gives no advice or instruction and you're not vetted at all, blows my mind

Jerm was fantastic on live commentary.

Btw Cole Redalen was at DDO this year and finished in 104th because he walked off the course and didn’t finish the last 3 holes final round because of the FPO playoff going on

@ajkfala

2 ай бұрын

are you saying that he j wanted to watch or they made him do that?

@samz1108

2 ай бұрын

@@ajkfala I think Cole released a video on Instagram saying he was tired of having to wait for FPO to finish and he was already not in contention so he threw his tee shot on 16 and walked off

@tpbailey08

2 ай бұрын

@@samz1108 I was the spotter on 16 the final day. I felt really bad but they asked me to hold players up when chase and lead card was on 18's fairway. I held 3 cards up while they were going through on their first time around, and then held another 4/5 up when the playoff came through. Some of those guys sat on 16's tee pad for nearly an hour because of this... The MPO first card and FPO lead card had a 45 minute gap. However, that was gone pretty fast because an earlier FPO card fell nearly an hour behind the card in front of it. I'm not sure what they can do in the future...

@BenNarNar44

2 ай бұрын

@@tpbailey08thank you for this clarification!

1:04:07 - So funny to me that the guys couldn't remember the 2019 European Open (which was indeed a major), that Ricky was in the lead, and how awesome that final round was with McBeth storming back for the win. To add to that, even McBeth himself couldn't remember! Not a knock on any of them, but that is just hilarious to me that nobody could remember an iconic event like that, even the guy who won it!

You guys are right about Europen open, but it was 2019. Ricky had a one stroke lead over Eagle, and 5 over Paul

As a not native english speaker I can't believe how fast Hunter can say "Hello everyone and welcome to Grip Locked"

@Hunter, Prez was asked during the Jomez practice round how he pronounces his name and he clearly stated Prez-Nell, not Prez-null

@Ivypoison23

2 ай бұрын

That is not a significant difference. That’s like asking the regular American how they pronounce milk

And as a Calvin fan this felt so great and hopefully just takes the weight off and let’s him shred

@kingchuckfinley

2 ай бұрын

I wanted Ricky or Calvin to win, so I did not feel much anxiety, which is nice

@Cjarvis1136

2 ай бұрын

​@kingchuckfinley I was kind of on the same boat but in the end, my gut really wanted Calvin to get this win in. Sucks that Ricky had those bad last 3 holes though. 😢

"Ian would great as the graphics guy." lol

Rule 806.02 section B: “A disc is out-of-bounds if its position is CLEARLY and COMPLETELY surrounded by an out-of-bounds area.” Weatherman’s disc was neither CLEARLY or by extension of that 100% beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt COMPLETELY surrounded by the OB area. Weatherman got shafted by cardmates, and we all missed out on what would have been an even more exciting three-way playoff.

@tunnelmannen

2 ай бұрын

Thought about this too. If you have to discuss for so long about it, I wouldn't say its CLEARLY ob.

@Iaap952

2 ай бұрын

They made the decision pretty quickly. It was clear to the card mates and terry miller. Seems like there wasn’t any doubt to the people who were physically there

@legerdamain7132

2 ай бұрын

@@Iaap952 Terry Miller was apparently “on the ground” and went over to the disc and said “I’m not sure if that is in or out”, also, according to this podcast and others, the coverage only showed a limited part of the discussion but apparently the full discussion of whether it was OB or not, was well over a minute of deliberating. Should have been IN, because if you have to question it, according the the rules, it’s in.

@prattacaster

2 ай бұрын

Who was on the card?

2019 European open. Ricky was leading after 3 rounds and was up 5 on Paul and 1 on Eagle. Paul shot a 54 final round and Ricky 62 to finish 3 back in a tie for 3rd.

As an Italian, I can confidently say to Trev,…. Talking with your hands is a REALLY good thing!!:)

King gives up when things aren't going well. It's plain as day when you watch her personality on the course. That's why you see those over 30 finishes. My least favorite person to root for right now.

@TDub777

2 ай бұрын

She definitely does not have that dog in her.

@Fabric_Hater

2 ай бұрын

She has attitude problem. Gets her every time.

@270ultimate

2 ай бұрын

I seriously thought her last name was actually DNF

Best part about monday

Love the syncronized answering! So fun!

Very much enjoyed the episode! For the people watching on YT, it would be cool if you did a screenshare during the "Top 10" segment just to see the list and player comparisons being done

Simon is not from discraft or discmania so calvin wasn’t the first

Calvin caught some nice breaks and Rick got some bad ones yesterday and it was good to see Calvin take full advantage. With the island it was crazy but it just helped he threw mid and it hit the wall and then the ground so it sorta cut into the ground and spun back whereas Rick threw fairway and it hit ground first going quite fast and it just got up and rolled on him. Great break for Calvin and bad for Ricky but you gotta get some breaks to win these days

Here is my take on commentary line up: - Nate Sexton, Jerm, Charlie in the booth - Nate Perkins, Terry on the field - Nate Doss and Philo for pre and post show so they could argue with each other and create all their drama. I dont like them in the booth but could actually see them debating each other similar to how some of the NFL/NBA guys sit around arguing with each other - Ian doing "personality" interviews and "fun" on field or off field segments.

This was a top tier Trevor’s trivia

I like the aggregate playoff. And it’s not even so much the drama, but I just like to see how composed the athletes can keep themselves with the win on the line…. Again. Like if Hailey won the aggregate playoff we wouldn’t remember her choking.

Bummer to hear about the Charleston store, I’m heading there in a few weeks and was wanting to swing by. Best of luck to those guys!

It was the 2019 European Open which was a Major, Ricky lead Eagle by 1 and Paul by 5, Paul beat Eagle by 2 and Ricky by 3

Big Jerm and Sexton, best duo

cole played ddo and walked off the course on the 16th hole because of the backups from the fpo playoff

Strokes gained on green also attest for what that put inside the circle is for based on the average. For instance if Missy put was for birdie and Hailey for par but both inside the circle

@waynebryant1857

2 ай бұрын

It’s putt

I like how Hunter says Calvin was the 1st winner that isn't from Discraft or Discmania this season. Next segment, Top 10, they mention Simon retaining #10 because of said win and don't realize the mistake from previous segment.

2019 European Open, Paul won from behind on Ricky and Eagle

When are you going to put your lighted logo back on the wall?

It was 2019 EO! Cmon now!!! Smh!!! I was getting frustrated listening to them. Lmfao 😂

Wait. What was the final list for the MPO power rankings? They always say it after doing all the shuffling but they never said what the final top ten was after all the shuffling, just went straight into fpo. I had to rewind to see if I missed it

The framing of the mic arms is distracting. Please change. I feel like I'm watching from the POV of a spider.

@braydonhix5327

2 ай бұрын

I will never be able to unsee this

@TAS-gb5ph

2 ай бұрын

@@braydonhix5327me too! This never bothered me until it was pointed out. Damn you!

@dacks14

2 ай бұрын

I agree, I've watched many podcasts and radio where they use mic arms and headphones and they are never in the way. Since there isn't a incoming call or sounds, why do they were headphones to talk to each other?

@billcoulter1984

2 ай бұрын

Zooming in solves it some

@mathewowens3911

2 ай бұрын

​@braydonhix5327 16th yi 7ph 23:13 😊😊😅🎉😢😢😊😢😮😮😢😢

No talk about Joey buckets? This guy did not have one top 10 finish last year in 2023, this year he is on a streak with three top tens in a row and that is including a PDGA major.

Buckets will win this year!

POV you're a giant spider interviewing the boys

Connor Gump is so slow it makes my brain hurt.

Presnell has performed well at Champion's landing in the past. I believe it was 2018 GBO where he was on chase card with McBeth and McCabe round 2 and I think he outshot both.

King was trying to call foot fault in the play off, she's no way going to say weatherman's shot was in

Get a shock collar for Trevor next episode. Every table touch the power goes up

Rathbun and Joey Buckets in the conversation for that top 10

Jomez left out the HK foot fault call on their post round coverage. Wild

Redalen played DDO. He was +2 over through two rounds, and than DNF'd after 15 holes in the final round, when he was still +2 over I believe. Final finish 104th.

Haley king 2 putted from C1 atleast once. That may account for stat differences

Gavin Rathbun is top 10!

1:11:10 Simon has a win this year… someone should fact check Edwin’s stats 🤣🤦🏻

As we average 300 rainy days a year, I’ll take wind over rain any day.

I knew of Emily Weatherman but I don’t know how. Maybe she popped up on a first round dgn coverage that is the only live coverage I see because it’s on KZread. Must be that, but she was ripping this weekend. Good for her

Always knew the Charleston location was a flop. Went a couple months ago, and it was abysmal. Should’ve just came to Spartanburg or Greenville. We got an ARDG in Greenville, and it’s flourishing.

Nice show ... I think you guys need bigger mic booms.

I'm here I'm here

Don’t forget Calvin is doing it without his forehand

@mahazroko6753

2 ай бұрын

He threw a couple short ones and one or two big-ish ones i believe.

@scottdavis5076

2 ай бұрын

Forhands are ridiculously over rated ,,dude won 2 majors last year with no such thing ,,presnell just won this year's major with no sidearm

@mahazroko6753

2 ай бұрын

@@scottdavis5076 Backhand turnovers are also cooler if you ask me

Sarah Hokom was a surprisingly good commentator

I agree that jerm was way better than Philo with Ian but I'm also not a fan of Ian. Give me Jerm, Erhart and The Champ with Terry and Nate Perkins in the field

The only problem with Jerm doing live commentary is that he can’t play in the tournament. His game is great right now and he’s still competitive.

@jacob_coleman25

2 ай бұрын

He's really had a solid season so far

im pretty sure gained c1x is relating to each hole and then it’s added up at the end of the round. Ex: I took two c1 putts to complete hole 6. It took the field 1.6 putts to complete hole 6. My gained c1 x is -0.4. Now on hole 7 I took two c1x putts to complete the hole whereas the field took an average of 2.6 c1x putts to complete the hole. My gained c1x on hole 7 is 0.6. My gained c1x over those two holes then is 0.2. They do that over the course of the whole round

The TATTAR sauce 😂

Need officiating on OB because Missy and Holyn will always cheat on where it crossed and if it is a close call on the line.

@scottdavis5076

2 ай бұрын

That's why it should never be a group decision,,just another stupid pdga rule ,,get 2-3 friends together,,they are out voting you every time ,,bush league at best

Cole Redalen did play DDO. He bailed after hole 15 of the final round. So he played 95% of the event then walked off, presumably because he wasn't playing well.

Redalen walks off during the last event, should slip at least a spot

Love the podcast! If it only had a few more commercials breaks it would reach perfection.

Are yall able to insert footage of the stuff your talking about while talking about it ? Like fly overs of different holes maybe or hightlights of people you're talking about ?

@GripLocked

2 ай бұрын

We don’t have the rights to the footage unfortunately

@mahazroko6753

2 ай бұрын

Caddie books are public, right? Alternatively put a camera on a whiteboard and let Konner draw stuff while you're explaining, or get Rich to do the greenscreen graphics.

Is that strokes gained c1x thing maybe because of the cut? If Hailey putted badly after the cut and that's why she lost more strokes to the field

Cole Redalen certainly played DD and DNF’d with 3 holes to go

Eveliina should be 2nd or 3rd. Eveliina vs Ohn - 4-3. Eveliina has 2 wins (1 major). Ohn has 1. Eveliina vs Holyn - 4-4 and Eveliina has 2 wins (1 major). Holyn has 0 wins. Eveliina vs Missy - 4-3 both have 2 wins (1 major). Missy’s DDO win has an asterisk for strength of field. Eveliina should probably be 2nd.

Let’s go!

Cole Redalen did play DDO but DNF’d at the end of the 3rd round.

Cole did play ddo

If you’re standing over a disc, looking at individual blades of grass, then you might be calling it a little tight. I’m guessing that if it had been someone besides “Emily Who?” the call might have gone in the player’s favor.

Cole played DDO. He quit. Y'all really should know this if you are ranking players.

it was 2022 champions cup.. dickerson came back to beat ricky., i believe they even said it on coverage at one point

Let's go Vinny. And Gavin, my sons name. And foot fault? 😮😢😂Wow someone isn't trying to gain any fans

it was 3 strokes .... good job Hunter smh and can you do a little different setup with those mic stands? get floor mount ones and then the bumping wont be effected. You aren't streamers

Bruh give me my own these points shouldn’t go no where :/

So I’m not sure the deeper rules of disc golf, I love watching the pro tour but I don’t play tournaments. Is this solution for calling the OB in the rules ok/a decent compromise: Mark where the disc sits with a mini directly on the side that could be perceived as “in bounds” Pick up the disc in question, if you see green, you are in the clear.

Why were you saying Cole Redalin wasn’t at DDO. He was there. He DNF’d…. That should matter.

Guys seriously with the elephant trunks? What are we doing. Going backwards with the professional swag

Pay the spotters ...

It’s 2019 for aure

@tanneranderson9775

2 ай бұрын

Sure

mpo discussion starts at 42:10

@ChrisSuswal-de9tj

2 ай бұрын

gods work!

I strongly disagree with the table slapper. If I have to devote mental energy on a shot to not committing a stance violation, then so do you.

Anyone know what happened to Nikko? DNF

The whole disc was in bounds not close decision

Aggregate playoff is the mcbeth rule! Sudden death isn’t as good as aggregate only when Paul slips on tee pad and Calvin goes straight lazer beam park job! I’m sure this had something to do with it

@teukka623

2 ай бұрын

Paul also won worlds because of sudden death in 2022 but he has himself said that he doesn’t like island holes on sudden death

Missy getting compared to Kristin when she has the same exact resume as Salonen and Salonen not even getting a mention is sad... Most people don't even consider USWDGC as important as Champion's Cup...

@tpbailey08

2 ай бұрын

Haha, I should have kept listening. Salonen for POTY!

fpo was boring to watch this weekend without the European women the last 3 holes were exciting but there was some bad golf being played . missy gannon missed over 15 C1 putts in the first 2 rounds and still won 😂

Jerm is goated on coverage. Ian is trash as usual. Jerm needs to replace Ian permanently

@prattacaster

2 ай бұрын

Just maybe he wants to disc golf instead....

The playoff should be 3 holes match play, that way it can't be over if someone blows ups on the first hole. If its tied after 3 then sudden death.

I feel like if they use paint for op, the middle of the paint line should actually be the OB line. It’s more clear cut in instances like this.

copenhagen open is full tour event, not silver!

Can you mark your lie but don't pick up your disc. Then are you allowed to step on your disc all you want??

how is holand 4th and evelina 5th with 2 wins that not right evelina should be 3rd with a major win anx a pro tour win come on

Can you time stamp Fpo and Mpo because I always have to skip through looking for Mpo.

@jockofthebush

2 ай бұрын

Takes less work for you to skip through than for them to put a time stamp on the video. It's a podcast, they want you to watch/listen through the whole thing.

@TDub777

2 ай бұрын

Your entire day must have been ruined.

@nautilusshell940

2 ай бұрын

mpo starts 42:10

@jamesbabcock9841

2 ай бұрын

@@TDub777 No just a minor inconvenience that I would appreciate a more specific time stamp

@jamesbabcock9841

2 ай бұрын

@@jockofthebush I don't watch FPO so I don't want to listen to a recap of it.

Would have liked to hear more about what you guys thought of the foot fault call by King. That was just an embarrassing thing to do, and felt like such a petty call. I feel like more foot faults should be called, and I understand that many are overlooked for fear of retaliatory calls. But that one was just such a disappointing reaction from her. Of course she wanted to win, but you've got to be able to lose with some dignity.

So who are the young up and comers in fpo with ohn in her 40’s and Gannon and Tattar in late 30’s? Is women’s disc golf and old persons sport where as men’s is for the young?

@TDub777

2 ай бұрын

Silva, Evelina, Henna. Evelina and henna have been around a few years but still really young with long careers ahead of them.

@zachkeene212

2 ай бұрын

And I mean if Hailey king figures it out she’s only like 22 also a young player from my area cadence burge is like 16 and on tour rn so fpo is in good hands

@teukka623

2 ай бұрын

Silva just got 4th at a major and is 21 years old

@Eaglemadhatter

2 ай бұрын

Excuse me. 43 here

@peter-jx3uc

2 ай бұрын

Average age of MPO Top 10 (according to PDGA World Rankings) is 26.7 while FPO top 10 is 28.8. Also Tattar is only 31 and Gannon 35 so what is late 30s to you?

Cole deserves to drop. Check out his scores before he quit

Ian slander will not be tolerated y’all

I am fairly confident 90% of people that watch this pod don’t watch FPO, definitely not all rounds