Dr. Tim Noakes: Dietary Guidelines are GENOCIDE.

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Are keepers of guidelines trying to silence Tim Noakes? Or is Tim Noakes the one trying to destroy the reputation of a top scientist?
0:00 Intro
1:15 My years of respect for Dr. Noakes
3:12 Dr. Noakes and the cholesterol hypothesis
6:11 Mendelian randomization
7:36 LDL causes heart disease
9:44 Dr. Brian Ference on LDL & blood pressure
11:42 Social media stars on Cholesterol
14:40 Twitter banned Dr. Noakes
15:58 Attacking Ancel Keys
18:53 George Mann pushes back on Ancel Keys
21:03 Inuit have a genetic mutation
21:23 The trial against Dr. Noakes
TEDx Boston: tedxboston.com/
The film about astronaut Don Pettit: • From Above - Astronaut...
Prof. Tim Noakes - 'The Cholesterol Hypothesis: 10 Key Ideas that the Diet Dictators Have Hidden...'
• Prof. Tim Noakes - 'Th...
Real Food on Trial: How the Diet Dictators Tried to Destroy a Top Scientist by Dr. Tim Noakes
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Mendelian Randomization (Chapman & Hall/CRC Interdisciplinary Statistics) 2nd Edition by Steven Burgess
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Low-density lipoproteins cause atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease. 1. Evidence from genetic, epidemiologic, and clinical studies. A consensus statement from the European Atherosclerosis Society Consensus Panel
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Ancel Keys' cholesterol con series by Tim Noakes:
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The Seven Countries Study:
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Nina Teicholz conspiracy theory video:
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  • @stefanogilermo8261
    @stefanogilermo82615 ай бұрын

    I'm 51 and after my heart attack 1 year ago, following the advise of ppl like Tim Noakes, Ken Berry, Stan Ekberg, Ben Bickman and others alike, I dropped 80 pounds of weight, cured my diabetes type 2 and my insulin resistance completely (took me about 7 months), and my lipids are excellent. Plus, a tumor in my right side temple which I had for the last 4 years and was told I should pray it won't turn malignant - disappeared. I achieved all these without pills, just food and timing. Oh, and of course, my hypertension went away as well. I was always told all these conditions were for life and I can only try to contain them with drugs - well, I got rid of all of them without any drugs!!!

  • @tomgoff7887

    @tomgoff7887

    5 ай бұрын

    Weight loss can deliver many benefits.

  • @tonycollyweston6182

    @tonycollyweston6182

    3 ай бұрын

    Hope you are still enjoying the benefits of your weight loss and can you now eat carbs without spiking your glucose level?

  • @stefanogilermo8261

    @stefanogilermo8261

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tonycollyweston6182 i am still enjoying the benefits and the lighter weight. But, any carbs will spike you blood glucose and insulin, even if you are very insulin sensitive, so i just preffer to not go back to carbs, i dont miss them. The only carbs i eat and i eat a lot of them every day are the non-starcy vegetables.

  • @FOTAP97

    @FOTAP97

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stefanogilermo8261I’m a 55 year old man eating a diet of 75% energy from complex carbohydrates, 15% from protein (mostly legumes), 10% from mostly unsaturated fat. BMI 23.2, HbA1c 5.6% fasting glucose runs about 97, post-prandial glucose tops out at ~122. Can you expand on your statement about carbohydrates and glucose response?

  • @GaryHighFruit

    @GaryHighFruit

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stefanogilermo8261 You are a fool, and will just start suffering from keto-related problems. You say you made it to 51 w/o a LC diet; meaning you were eating carbs. Now you say any carbs will spike you blood glucose and insulin. 1. It's not a spike 2. A 'spike' is not a problem 3. Why'd you go 51 years if it was such a problem. The longest-lived people eat a carb-based diet.

  • @greenecv
    @greenecv Жыл бұрын

    So so grateful for these videos, though I find myself often having to take a break halfway through them to cool down my anger. So many nutrition “experts” peddling pseudoscience to make a buck, and the consequences for those who follow their recommendations can be deadly! It can really upset me, so thank you for fighting back against misinformation. I have no doubt reading through the comments that these videos are changing and saving lives. I don’t talk to people much about nutrition, it’s a hotter topic than even religion and politics these days, but it’s nice to have your videos to point people towards on the rare occasion that I do find myself talking about food and health.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I almost gave up on this episode because it got so dark… I don’t know why a man like Tim goes down so dark a path.

  • @Ermude10

    @Ermude10

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers I think it's a defence mechanism with a downward spiral. You start on a certain path and you become invested in it. Then everything that goes against it is hurting your ego so much that you don't even consider it as potentially being true, because the consequences would be huge not just for you personally but also for all the people you've affected. I honestly believe most of these pseudoscientist and "experts" believe in their lies themselves and don't even notice that they're not being honest when they pursue knowledge and that they already have a set agenda before they do it. And when they do make lies consciously, they convince themselves that it's small and for the greater good.

  • @sockerbeta

    @sockerbeta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers It's all human psychology. Because it's so easy to get overwhelmed by all available information these days it's easier to reinforce doubt than ever. You look for keywords that confirms your beliefs and discard the rest as parts of conspiracies. Dwelling into a good conspiracy story can be a life-changing and make someone feel more unique and special. Suddenly you know things that no one else know and it doesn't matter if it's true, only that it makes you feel special (and you make it true to yourself). I think it's a part of who we are, to search the unknown and become a part of a new group with a new culture. We all have biases, and the world is filled with rabbit holes. And if you so happen to start to dig a new one to find new knowledge, hundreds will come to your aid to dig you even deeper, and make you certain that you've found something extraordinary.

  • @michaelhoile1369

    @michaelhoile1369

    Жыл бұрын

    Spot on ..I see red (not just his red face) every time I see or hear Dr? Ken Berry. Half my family follow him and believe every stupid thing he says...so frustrating 😒 😤

  • @michaelhoile1369

    @michaelhoile1369

    Жыл бұрын

    @PlantChompers me too ✋️ 😢 he is so grounded in other topics...do not understand. 🤷🤦🥺

  • @weston.weston
    @weston.weston Жыл бұрын

    I look forward these episodes so much. They're chocked full of high quality, thoughtful considerations filled with a ton of light heartedness but undergirded by science. Plus, I think Chris goes above and beyond to be fair to all.

  • @someguy2135

    @someguy2135

    Жыл бұрын

    100% Well said!

  • @mbrochh82

    @mbrochh82

    Жыл бұрын

    It's actually highly biased scientism, character assassination masqueraded as humor and constant appeal to authority while ignoring a growing mountain of evidence that tells the opposite story of this channel. ask yourself who funds this channel, because obviously some random guy would never have the time to read so many books and papers, then write so many scripts, then record them and edit them with such quality and somehow magically always come to the same conclusion. this channel has very little to do with science, but it is an amazing showcase of professional misdirection.

  • @MmartinL

    @MmartinL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mbrochh82 Seems that you are ignoring the mountain of existing evidence, throwing shade on him and all without providing any evidence yourself 🤔

  • @weston.weston

    @weston.weston

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mbrochh82 It is okay if your opinion differs from mine. What you shared here does not change my initial comment or my thoughts about appreciating Chris's KZread channel.

  • @jackschitt6235

    @jackschitt6235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mbrochh82 So help me understand, he is being funded by the evil fruit and vegetable companies? I'm not a vegan but I don't question his integrity. Who do you trust in the diet and health area?

  • @beedubs3356
    @beedubs3356 Жыл бұрын

    This is such a gem of a channel. Your ability to educate while including all perspectives with kindness is amazing. Helps to quell my frustration as well.....if people like this get pulled in to this, how can I be mad at friends with no formal education. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

  • @ChrisBennett-sj5pm

    @ChrisBennett-sj5pm

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah its like a religion. No science to speak of. In house jokes and a family feel if thats what you are after

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    He cant educate.He has zero qualifications in this field.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @kevinjohnson3521

    @kevinjohnson3521

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisBennett-sj5pm have you tried it?!?! Who funded the studies that you listen too? Give me a couple studies that you agree with so I can show you?

  • @dorcasmcleod9439

    @dorcasmcleod9439

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ChrisBennett-sj5pm You think that many scientists today do not interpret data through their personal "macro-evolutionary believing" lenses? Science in it's original meaning is a search for knowledge. True science leads to God and truth. When you disparage an idea because it seems to be followed like a religion, I think you are self deluding, because you think "scientific" concepts are not religious. If you step outside of this subject, and just ask what are people seeking? My thought is that the Lord gives us an average of 70 to 80 years to enjoy this life before the next one that we can look forward to. When I consider that by this scale I have lived 80 to 91 percent of my normally expected life. That means that in all likelyhood, I have 9 to 20 percent of my time left on this earth. In that time, disease and ill health are major obstacles to feeling really well. I would like to have the best life I can. Serving Jesus Christ is the greatest comfort. He doesn't promise excellent physical health, but he also doesn't desire that I suffer needlessly. People want to not be sick. They want to feel physically well, healthy. Carnivore has helped me accomplish that, when other life style diets have failed. What you need to understand about Carnivore, is that it works for most people. Back to my story. Upon taking up the Carnivore diet, I lost 70 pounds in the first 6 months. That put me into the "not obese, but just overweight" category of BMI. I am about 20 pounds over what the BMI says is the healthiest range for my height. After close to 40 years in the "obese" category, that is a success. Carnivore is basically an elimination diet, just as Vegan is an elimination diet. Let's look at the reason most diets fail. They are too difficult to continue for great lengths of time. For my personality, I am able to "do" Carnivore where other diets were not as "doable. This is a big thing. So beef, bacon, butter, eggs, salt & water (I also do coffee) work best for me. You say the saturated fats will give me heart disease, but I say heart palpitations, pains all through my body, most anxiety and basically now medication free are my results. The proof is in the pudding. Thanks.

  • @ChrisBennett-sj5pm

    @ChrisBennett-sj5pm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dorcasmcleod9439 i think the carnivore diet is great. Better eyesight, better hearing, both confirmed by experts in those fields. Better health overall.

  • @theadventurousgeezer
    @theadventurousgeezer Жыл бұрын

    I had the good fortune to attend the American College of Lifestyle Medicine annual conference in Orlando, FL earlier this month. Dr. Will Bulsiewicz, the author of the book, Fiber Fueled, was one of the speakers. During his presentation, he stated that there are 185 studies encompassing 135 million "person-years" that overwhelmingly show the importance of consuming whole-plant foods as it relates to proper gut health and digestion. That floored me. It seems that science definitely supports whole-plant foods as the main component of an optimal human diet. Thanks again for another great video!

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Big fan here of Will and his book. 👏

  • @dorcasmcleod9439

    @dorcasmcleod9439

    Жыл бұрын

    I have no problem with some plants, but you have to admit sone vegetables cause inflamation. From the web: They also contain compounds called alkaloids that can cause inflammation in some people. I am basically Carnivore because it works for me. Dr Anthony Chaffee has a video titled "Plants are trying to kill you" I think that's a bridge too far. But just the title is a hoot! God made man 6,000 years ago and these amazing bodies he gave us are highly adaptable to survival on vegetables or mrats or both. I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Psalms 139:14

  • @haroldwood1394
    @haroldwood1394 Жыл бұрын

    For years, it's been concerning how bitterly Noakes has responded to those who questioned his findings. And just what did he mean by 'genocide'? Which particular nation, ethnicity etc were his scientific opponents trying to kill? For a South African icon, he must know how inflammatory his use of that word is, but the sad truth is that he doesn't seem to care.

  • @puidemare2337

    @puidemare2337

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you do your own research/analyze studies or do you just believe whatever someone on youtube is telling you?

  • @jimcricket1

    @jimcricket1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@puidemare2337I just read endgame and it is literally genocide.

  • @GaryHighFruit

    @GaryHighFruit

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jimcricket1 Interpretation: You watched some propaganda and got sucked into the rabbit-hole.

  • @DryRoastedLemon
    @DryRoastedLemon Жыл бұрын

    I don’t know if you’ll read this, but I can’t overstate enough that I highly admire your ability to critically and lucidly consider multiple sides of a conversation. I get very emotionally invested in the things I consider to be true and that essentially puts me in my own thought bubble. It may not be a topic for this channel but I would actually love to hear how you approach handling these wildly opposing views with such poise.

  • @blackhawck70
    @blackhawck70 Жыл бұрын

    The good people in other countries who had never heard about US dietary guidelines suffered because they were bombarded with tons of American and western processed foods and drinks or by their local processed food producers that followed the processed food standards in western countries. This had been ramping up at least since the 1970s.

  • @beckynorthey4876

    @beckynorthey4876

    Ай бұрын

    And don't forget that lots of countries just like Australia follow USA lead in the food guidelines and have done so for a damn long time. So yes the food guild lines formed from lobbying in USA has a worldwide impact.

  • @heidisunshine2003
    @heidisunshine2003 Жыл бұрын

    I used to believe these lies until my cholesterol went sky high…..So glad I found your channel ❤ Blessings to you and your beautiful family. Happy thanksgiving 🍁

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried low carb for a few weeks (years ago) as an experiment, and my cholesterol level went over 1000mg/dL.

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerryedwards80 When my cholesterol was high, I had a 40% blockage in my aorta, despite eating a very healthy omnivorous diet and being an elite marathon runner. Today, I eat only plants and I keep the fat low. My cholesterol level is 110mg/dL. I still can run a mile in just over 4 minutes at age 43, and my blockage is now 0%. Cholesterol level is an awfully good heuristic for determining heart disease risk, if nothing else.

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerryedwards80 Please give the source, for your comment, please.

  • @Firebuck

    @Firebuck

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerryedwards80 There's a better test now that measures ApoB -- the protein that carries cholesterol in the blood which is a much better predictor of heart disease. But it's raised by the same lifestyle factors as the cholesterol we used to measure. Sky high cholesterol is not meaningless. It's a red flag to see a cardiologist and get your ApoB measured.

  • @aaronbr2001

    @aaronbr2001

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerryedwards80 nonsense it’s right on the American heart association website high cholesterol causes heart disease kzread.info/dash/bejne/fICNs8-Efc6whqw.html

  • @eg7647
    @eg7647 Жыл бұрын

    Wow Chris, all the cliches apply, my mind is blown. I didn't know how lucky I am that when I searched 'nutrition videos" on KZread a few years ago I ended up with Ann and Jane Esselstyn, Dr. Barnard, you and many others like you. Thanks for all the amazing work you do!

  • @sparkythesolocruiser6375
    @sparkythesolocruiser6375 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this work I have been plant-based for 5 and 1/2 years now I just turned 65 I take no medications I am doing great I feel great and I certainly abused my body with so many bad things for the first 59 years of my life but I give people like you and Dr Greger and others the credit for being Tough Enough to keep pointing to evidence and real science and not the industry funded stuff or the people selling snake oil.....keep up the great work!!!!

  • @axelf4515
    @axelf451511 ай бұрын

    One of the few if not the only channel that brings us as close as possible to the scientists behind the studies and their motives.

  • @tinabean713
    @tinabean713 Жыл бұрын

    I hate when people assert that a recommendation was made and outcomes only got worse. We were also advised to save for retirement, but a lot of people reach their 60s without enough money to retire, so does that mean we don't need to save for retirement and should start doing the opposite? No, that's ludicrous. If you're going to assert that the recommendations are bad because a population has poor outcomes, you have to show that the population follows the outcomes. Also, I see a lot of studies cited regarding results from different diets, but when you actually look at those controlled studies and what they set as their percentages for low/high fat or low/high carb, it is way more moderate than what most advocates for those diets proclaim.

  • @JaxObsessed
    @JaxObsessed Жыл бұрын

    Another scathing review of pop science/conspiracy influencers. It's really sad when folks replace objective with subjective/anecdotal "truth/science" where popularity replaces integrity. Keep up the great work, Chris!!!!! Thanks for your tireless dedication to verifiable science.

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    Hilarious...He is a pseudo expert.. Professor Kay has fixed all the mistakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @JaxObsessed

    @JaxObsessed

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asecretcountry Well, Mike..... Dr. Kay had nothing but ad hominem/personal attacks, butthurt and anger in response to Chris. "you're wrong" and "you're a Dunning Kruger sufferer" are not debate, they are emotional virtue signaling that clearly is enough for folks with no discernable critical minds. If the pointy hat fits, you're gonna have to wear it.

  • @puidemare2337

    @puidemare2337

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JaxObsessed Did you actually analyze the "studies" or did you just believe someone's interpretation of the "studies?" People, like yourself, love to regurgitate buzzwords to sound like you know how to critically think, when, infact, you couldn't explain how the body processes fat to save your life. You wrote a lot of words without saying anything of substance.

  • @stevef6523
    @stevef6523 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are quite simply incredible. No flashy click bait and fancy video effects, no inflammatory emotional language (at least, except for the stuff others say that gets debunked). Just solid, well read, scientific research that works off the fundamentals of good science - consensus views based off the real research of experts. Not media personalities and agenda pushers. Please please keep up the good work, I know you put so much time into careful understanding of the issues. Know that your efforts are hugely valued

  • @roseannebyrne7233
    @roseannebyrne7233 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel is my favourite find in the last year. And at 68 I need the science explained, nonsense debunked, conspiracy theory explained to ease my mind and help me defend my plant based food choices. You are a legend. Thank you for the clarity and the passion.

  • @NiranjanBendre
    @NiranjanBendre Жыл бұрын

    That beard and desert reference is marketing genius! Thanks for your videos!

  • @ChrisUK70
    @ChrisUK70 Жыл бұрын

    I found your channel this morning, I nearly choked on my breakfast which was a block of butter (grass fed so all good) wrapped in bacon (again farmers market bought so all good). Love your wit and the subjects you tackle, I am doing mostly plants now after getting lost in the keto rabbit hole a while back. Also named Chris how spooky is that?!

  • @rakshithsridharan5078
    @rakshithsridharan5078 Жыл бұрын

    Infact I have increased my Polyunsaturated Fats rich food like Walnuts, Flax seeds, Chia seeds, Mustard Seeds which has more Omega 3 fatty acids and also helps balancing out the Omega 6 and 3 Ratio.

  • @frankiefernandez5252
    @frankiefernandez5252 Жыл бұрын

    Veg and meat work for me. The day after I eat any fruit/grains/carbs, my lower back aches.

  • @RogerHyam
    @RogerHyam Жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid I agree with Jaron Lanier. Social media literally drives people mad - especially if they get any fame. I've seen it in celebrities and friends. Your running heroes are just attention junkies Chris. Personally I've deleted my social media accounts. I just put the odd comment on KZread. Some of us have to stay sane out in the real world.

  • @kevinjohnson3521

    @kevinjohnson3521

    Жыл бұрын

    This guy does not say who funds the studies that he agrees with though?!?! Have you tried carnivore or just listen to others and what they say? And you do not even know who funds the studies he is citing is hilarious 🤣.

  • @Samuel-bu7xr
    @Samuel-bu7xr Жыл бұрын

    Wait, NASA didn't fake the moon landings?!

  • @stevenfrew9301
    @stevenfrew9301 Жыл бұрын

    I am so grateful for the effort you put into your videos. I have mentioned before that I have followed the Keto, high fat diets because I thought the books I read were true (Why would a doctor lie ). Your videos have shown me that i didn't use a very important skill that everyone should use, critical thinking.

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    He had no effort..never checked anything He is a pseudo expert.. Professor Kay has fixed all the mistakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @puidemare2337

    @puidemare2337

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks like you're still not using critical thinking skills. In order to discern, one needs all perspectives, then, distill the information, then come to a conclusion based on one's own research. Critical thinking isn't simply just listening to and believing what someone is telling you. If you're gonna ask that question, why would doctors lie, then you'd need to ask that of everyone you're getting information from. Why would you trust this guy? Do you trust your government? Do you trust that pharma cares about your well-being? Do you think hospitals exist because they care about your health? Everyone is trying to sell you something and profit off of you. When researching, do you read and analyze the "studies" yourself or do you just listen to what someone on youtube tells you about the "studies?"

  • @ghostviggen

    @ghostviggen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@puidemare2337 Was basically thinking the same think.

  • @gustav4539
    @gustav4539 Жыл бұрын

    Those who study ketone metabolism have kind of left the debate about fat being dangerous. It seems the human body is supposed to run on ketones rather than glucose, as an everyday fuel.

  • @GaryHighFruit

    @GaryHighFruit

    2 ай бұрын

    Opposite Humans are primates. Primates eat a fruit-based diet. In nature, most of the easy to eat foods are carb-based. The hard-to-eat foods are fat-based.

  • @mattzilla331
    @mattzilla331 Жыл бұрын

    You should look into Peter Rogers MD. He has some great videos about what atherosclerosis is. He says it's really a blood clot. Cholesterol is a part of the equation but doesn't explain it all. He talks a lot about how blood viscosity is the key. The thicker your blood is the more likely clots will form. And what makes blood thick? Too much fat and cholesterol causing blood cells to stick together. Blood sugar too high. Too much sodium. High blood pressure. Ect. Give his KZread a look. He recommends a McDougall type diet but no added salts or sugars and no need to add seeds or nuts. Keep the fat really low and sodium to maximize blood flow. So your blood is more like water and less like a milkshake

  • @helicart
    @helicart Жыл бұрын

    A future topic to explore is the limitations of a scientist's brain, and the effects of aging. Tim Noakes has a long and esteemed career, until his low carb switch. However, he is not formally trained in nutrition, and does not know the nutrition literature comprehensively. This is why the chart you discuss at 11:00 is over his head. He is more influenced by his personal experience with weight loss on a low carb diet, and this skewed his objectivity to an unacceptable degree. Ken Berry is another health professional who just doesn't know nutrition science deeply, and is profoundly and naively simplistic in his interpretation of it. He is a King of Nutritional Misinformation.

  • @patrickh709
    @patrickh709 Жыл бұрын

    In addition to Dr Tim Noakes, I also follow and adhere to advice from Dr Paul Mason, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Judy Cho, Dr Eric Westman, Prof. Bart Kay.

  • @betseyspencer5370
    @betseyspencer5370 Жыл бұрын

    I only know what has fixed all my health problems. N= 1 . 40 years high carb, low fat. Arthritis, psoriasis, rising BP, weight struggles. After starting 90%carnivore I am like a new person. Each person should eat what works for them. Just ask , how's it working for me?

  • @rafaelbohorquez8135

    @rafaelbohorquez8135

    Жыл бұрын

    You were not eating carbs from Whole Foods haha. Processed carbs, with no phytonutrients, no micronutrients and macros mostly from carbs are not food, dude. How could u compare eating lentils with cookies? Damn

  • @rafaelbohorquez8135

    @rafaelbohorquez8135

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't agree with most of the info in this video, but it doesn't mean u are right

  • @GaryHighFruit

    @GaryHighFruit

    2 ай бұрын

    betsey is lying. We see the lying from these anti-vegans all the time.

  • @ErikKarlstrom
    @ErikKarlstrom Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for bringing these amazing episodes with interesting points and I always learn something new by watching them. I can get so infuriated with how many influencers use bad data and get away with it, it’s good to see you take them on with factual information and well made studies!

  • @kevinjohnson3521

    @kevinjohnson3521

    Жыл бұрын

    Who funds his research?

  • @kevinjohnson3521

    @kevinjohnson3521

    Жыл бұрын

    This guy is someone who likes to gaslight opinions that he does not like. All that he is doing here. He seems to be paid by Big Pharma or Big Farms!

  • @glynemartin

    @glynemartin

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@KJ if you knew, you would have said...

  • @kevinjohnson3521

    @kevinjohnson3521

    Жыл бұрын

    @@glynemartin the guys he cites, they are funding by Kelloggs & Seventh Day Adventists. Of course I know about them! He is using their studies to prove his opinion… but has he tried a good carnivore diet, I doubt it! Using carbs for energy verse fat is something can he has no experience with it. Keep listening to biased studies that show one sides funding but not his makes ZERO sense to all except you.

  • @RichardKentMatthews
    @RichardKentMatthews Жыл бұрын

    As usual, a prize presentation. I've learned more since following your channel than from all the other diet gurus, well, ever. Thanks again and keep up the good and essential work.

  • @gabearbez146
    @gabearbez146Ай бұрын

    Thanks Chris ! I am an active 72 year old vegan since age 60 . Followed many vegan doctors and bought many books ! Took me a while to trust plant chompers. Now its part of my daily youtube visit ! Lucky to have you !

  • @jaymayhoi
    @jaymayhoi Жыл бұрын

    just wanna say that your editing is so good, can't imagine the amount of planning that goes into it, I mean, how are you at such different locations with every shot?!

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It would be a lot easier if I just stayed put. 😁

  • @weston.weston
    @weston.weston Жыл бұрын

    I watched this video when it was released but enjoy returning to them sometimes because they are all so well done. I am glad you're here, Chris.

  • @martifingers
    @martifingers Жыл бұрын

    What I get from Plant Chompers is renewed faith in rationality, rigour and the value of an open mind. But the seeming ubiquity (and "success") of emotionally driven pseudo-science is really depressing.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    It is depressing... McRaney's book haunts me because he says when conspiracy theorists are presented with contrary evidence, they usually become firmer in their beliefs. Gah. 😢

  • @kevinjohnson3521
    @kevinjohnson3521 Жыл бұрын

    So carbs do not increase insulin resistance? Carbs do not make people bloated? Oxylates & lectins are not bad for the human body? ED is not caused by lack of cholesterol? It is need to produce hormones. Who funds your research papers?

  • @alexapostolo9019
    @alexapostolo9019 Жыл бұрын

    Chris another great video. My personal experience is that when I was vegan for some months, although I felt in general great and my cholesterol improved, some other problems started to show up... My nails deteriorated in quality, my libido lessened (testosterone decreased) and some knee pain that had dissapeared while doing keto earlier, came back. When I introduced good quality meats things improved again. So, I really can't understand if there is an optimal diet for everything, but I am starting to believe that...unfortunately no. Is seems you gain something you loose something in every diet...and it is a balancing game.

  • @k.h.6991

    @k.h.6991

    Жыл бұрын

    It really depends if your vegan diet was well designed. Did you follow the 'daily dozen'? It's an app that helps people design a healthy vegan diet.

  • @mikafoxx2717

    @mikafoxx2717

    Жыл бұрын

    @@k.h.6991Things that are healthy for our species shouldn't be all that difficult.. or we wouldn't have made it this long.

  • @anir8023

    @anir8023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@k.h.6991 we hear this again n again, people do their best for it to work but it doesn’t work for many . So why suffer , we have one life !

  • @k.h.6991

    @k.h.6991

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, you can optimize a plant based diet, through the daily dozen.there are so many plants to eat and they have different benefits. As long as you keep to the main plant food groups though (beans, whole grains, fruit and veggies), the only thing to remember is supplementing B12. Alex here tried vegan, doesn't sound like he tried whole plants.

  • @samreh6156

    @samreh6156

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you blood type O or B by any chance?

  • @gwizz7804
    @gwizz7804 Жыл бұрын

    Another great one Chris 👍👍 you're so good at clearly explaining science and why/how people tend to misrepresent studies when they don't read the whole thing or simply don't fully grasp the material.

  • @VeganLinked
    @VeganLinked Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't Noakes know what happened to Atkins?

  • @inegleit
    @inegleit Жыл бұрын

    I always look forward to watching your videos! I can't help but imagine how the process of you filming an episode must look from the outside perspective. A man wanders across a patch of grass towards a small tree, then stops. He pulls out a camera, starts walking back in a straight line while talking into said camera. He stops again, looking around for a beautiful background fot the next shot.

  • @paulholloway1599
    @paulholloway1599 Жыл бұрын

    I think it's worth pointing out that one of the Stebbens studies mentioned was published in the journal Medical Hypotheses. Medical Hypotheses is not a serious medical journal and should, in my opinion, be regarded as the medical equivalent of the National Enquirer (or perhaps, more accurately, Fortean Times for those familiar). It's amazing how widespread completely erroneous ideas about nutrition are on social media. I have been called an idiot on numerous occasions for calling out those who claim that it has been proven that large amounts of saturated fats are harmless or even good for us. It's very sad really. I hate to think how much serious illness and even deaths have been caused by these ideas.

  • @MarksThinkTank
    @MarksThinkTank Жыл бұрын

    Every time I watch one of your videos I have to completely re-think my entire nutrition plan. This wouldn't happen if you didn't make so much sense. While I'll never really fear saturated fat, I do see tremendous value in your perspectives. Sorry to hear about grandma's retierment. Well done video!

  • @someguy2135

    @someguy2135

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't fear saturated fat, you must have evidence that is more credible than all of the evidence that Chris has presented. Care to share?

  • @daBuzzY90

    @daBuzzY90

    Жыл бұрын

    @@someguy2135 I think there's a difference between "fearing" and "being aware of the dangers of" ;)

  • @someguy2135

    @someguy2135

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daBuzzY90 I think (like most subjects) saturated fat can be the subject of excess fear, as in a phobia leading to an eating disorder. Sat fat is not detrimental, per se, but excess sat fat greatly increases your chances of cardiovascular disease, which can be feared with good reason.

  • @Tinky1rs

    @Tinky1rs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@someguy2135 The general advice is to limit it to 10% of your daily caloric intake. You don't have to try very hard to reach that if you eat little to no proccessed food or animal products. This may be different if you worrisome bloodwork, but I'll leave that to the individual and their GP.

  • @someguy2135

    @someguy2135

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daBuzzY90 Chris interviewed the nutrition scientist behind "Nutrition Made Simple" KZread channel, about plant oils, and Chris didn't contradict the claim that they don't have to be completely avoided for ideal health.

  • @BorisK296
    @BorisK296 Жыл бұрын

    Chris is really the best of nutrition KZread, maybe of KZread as a whole.

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a pseudo expert.. Professor Kay has fixed all the mistakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @BorisK296

    @BorisK296

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asecretcountry hahaha nope

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BorisK296Thanks Dunning Kruger,,, Professor of Nutrition vs a hippy vegan...game set and match...next

  • @GregariousAntithesis
    @GregariousAntithesis Жыл бұрын

    Why hasnt it dawned on the majority of medical professionals and scientists that if the majority of the population needs to be on a pill for high cholesterol that your cholesterol theory and hypothesis were completely wrong and naturally the majority of us have normal cholesterol and the problem is those with lower cholesterol. The medical profession has largely lost all credibility with me.

  • @WanderingSword
    @WanderingSword9 ай бұрын

    So Tim Noakes went from 33 years of advocating high carb to completely reversing his position in just 3 hours after reading some Atkins book (not even peer reviewed)? Goes to show, even MD's can be bought out for the right price.

  • @luisp8801
    @luisp8801 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that he talked about Ancel Keys and his 7 country study while omitting the well stablished fact that it was 22 countries instead of just 7, coincidentally the 7 that best proved his claims.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    The seven counties study included 22 counties? Can you point to the well established facts?

  • @Shirtdust
    @Shirtdust Жыл бұрын

    Yet another awesome and super informative video! Thanks for all that you do:)

  • @moggridge1
    @moggridge1 Жыл бұрын

    I do wish intelligent people who should know a lot better wouldn't use a word like "genocide" to describe something such as a diet.

  • @johnwietfeldt6238
    @johnwietfeldt6238 Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you were able to complete your beard trim. I usually do mine all at once. Love your stimulating videos!

  • @ash9259
    @ash9259 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video plant chompers, one common thing i hear nowadays is the idea that you spoke about in todays video, that epidemiological studies are somehow unreliable, falsifiable, etc. It bugs me, i am not literate enough yet to understand where these people who say such things come from. Again, thank you for this video - really informative.

  • @Tinky1rs

    @Tinky1rs

    Жыл бұрын

    Epidemiological studies have their place. To say that they are unreliable is a blanket statement. If it doesn't account for relevant biases and confounders (what was the proccessed food replaced by, exercise. socio-economic status, age, smoking, prior disease, any form of dietary checks), it diminishes its value. A good youtuber on this is Gil Carvalho (I know plant chompers also watches his videos =): kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4F1rcFml7Ldqqw.html For your reference, epidemiological studies fall under bag 2: better than lab tests, worse than RCTs. Big benefit is that they are cheaper with better compliance and you can therefore run them for much longer periods of time.

  • @someguy2135

    @someguy2135

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tinky1rs As you implied, epidemiological studies are needed to see the long term results of diets. Chris pointed that out in the video above, I'm also subscribed to Dr. Gil. Big fans of both.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I love Gil and have interviewed him on this channel, but we have a few differences. I think randomized trials are better for certain conditions but not as good for others. They failed for smoking and didn't produce conclusive data for trans fats, but prospective cohorts filled out the picture in both cases.

  • @user-nz4un6se7y

    @user-nz4un6se7y

    8 ай бұрын

    @@PlantChompers So you're saying a study is only as good as long as it provides a preconceived notion of yours? Great.

  • @CristinaAcosta
    @CristinaAcosta Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for your generosity with your knowledge. My 3 month Vegan self- experiment is finished. Markedly positive results verified by blood panels have convinced me that WFPB vegan is my plan for the remainder of my lifetime. So excited.

  • @alicesais770

    @alicesais770

    Жыл бұрын

    So glad you found a diet ( a way of life that you feel good with) may you continue good health. Just like some Carnivore’s, low carb’s, Vegetarians that has made them healthy by getting rid of many illnesses, may you all do well in your choices. I feel we all have different bodies, what works for one might not work for all.

  • @andrewcavanagh3946
    @andrewcavanagh3946 Жыл бұрын

    One other observation of the high meat diet influencers. The most common description of their version of "bad" diets is "high carbohydrate" and their alternative to that always seems to be to eat as much meat as possible. But we know healthy diets are high in whole PLANTS, not necessarily high in carbohydrates. It's quite easy to design a diet where the volume of the diet is 2/3rds or more plants but carbohydrate levels are still quite low. You don't need to eat meat to have a low carbohydrate diet if you really feel the need to go down that path for some reason. Google the eco Atkins diet for an example or just load up your plate with non starchy vegetables (better yet...see a dietician). We know that saturated fat leads to insulin resistance so if you have a diet high in saturated fat you're likely to have insulin control problems and one way to control that would be to limit your carbohydrate intake. But it would make a lot more sense to reduce the saturated fat in your diet dealing with the core problem. One final comment. The biggest problem with the typical western diet is the high intake of processed food and sugar filled drinks. That really has to be the first message people get...replace the junk in your diet with whole foods...vegetables in particular...and drink water.

  • @trentonharris7676

    @trentonharris7676

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as insulin resistance. It is a construct, not a biochemical reality. Tell me, how do you measure "insulin resistance"? The problem is not saturated fat. It is the intake of unnecessary and toxic carbohydrates.

  • @andrewcavanagh3946

    @andrewcavanagh3946

    8 ай бұрын

    @@trentonharris7676 lol. Insulin resistance is a reality. Trying to deny that is laughably ridiculous. And carbohydrates are not "toxic". Also a ridiculous statement. www.cdc.gov/diabetes/basics/insulin-resistance.html#:~:text=The%20pancreas%20pumps%20out%20more,and%20blood%20sugar%20keeps%20rising.

  • @cherrobbs2810
    @cherrobbs2810 Жыл бұрын

    I was just thinking a couple of days ago about when your next video would be available and here it is. Like e how very kind you are to those who you disagree with. Shows a lot of good character.

  • @johnmeyers8542
    @johnmeyers8542 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent as always. As someone who believed these more famous social media experts, I am so glad for your channel. I'm glad you're not afraid to call them out. I also like the mention of the KZread comments that are always 'I eat X and Y happened.' I always found it a little odd and wondered if this might be a telltale sign of something. Please keep doing what you're doing.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Those I eat y and z happened videos are so popular! Great way to go viral if that’s what you seek.

  • @MrCmon113

    @MrCmon113

    Жыл бұрын

    It's particularly weird, given that people have lived on completely different diets for tens if not hundreds of thousands of years across the globe.

  • @richardcardinale7152

    @richardcardinale7152

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers it's not similar with the studies ? 😂

  • @richardcardinale7152

    @richardcardinale7152

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6MlNV9XbjOlLg.html

  • @weisscoaching
    @weisscoaching Жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy watching your video as they are easy to watch, deep, educational, and well -researched. I could relate to the things you mentioned about the endurance diet and Tim Noakes - since I am active acthlete and active in the running circles, I often see the concern about carbohydrates damaging ahlete's health - and those often come from misinterpretations of studies, lack of understanding, or simply misplaced context of the advice - ex. when athletes follow diet advice intended for obese individuals.

  • @Atheria444
    @Atheria444 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I truly appreciate your intellectual videos regarding nutrition. I've been vegan for MANY years and am way ahead of the average 56+ year old despite many people saying being vegan is deadly and "impossible". I will admit that I've been tricked into thinking certain extreme versions of plant based is the "most healthy" way to go...but...I think I'm finally getting it that the best diet is whole food, plant based, and low fat (but not NO fat).

  • @cartouche7441

    @cartouche7441

    Жыл бұрын

    Now you should name all the supplements that you must eat every day to keep yourself alive.

  • @Atheria444

    @Atheria444

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cartouche7441 I take a basic multi and a bit extra D, calcium, magnesium, and zinc. I know that will annoy you. I'm not a fan of tons of supplements.

  • @mandybyrd1788
    @mandybyrd1788 Жыл бұрын

    It's so disturbing how an ordinary person could be taken in by some of the people you reference in this video simply because they lack the context, time or skills to do what you do. I can see how a lot of them might come off as reputable and convincing. All this to say that this is one of many reasons why I really appreciate what you do. Congratulations on the successful TED talk.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Mandy. The tragedy is, many of the people taken in are the ones whose health suffered from too much meat, not enough whole plants, and they seem to resonate the most with the idea they can still have their bacon and don’t have to eat beans or broccoli. 😔 That would be my extended family with kidney and heart disease.

  • @Kushgroove234

    @Kushgroove234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers what's your thoughts on a diet that is just whole foods, but you eat what your body craves. It would include meat ( with zero processing) and veggies but is high in fat including some dairy fat from ghee and butter. What if your body just craves fat, do you ignore it?

  • @robsengahay5614

    @robsengahay5614

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kushgroove234 Surely giving into cravings is rarely a good idea. Addictive drugs, alcohol, sugar, cigarettes etc. You have to consider why the mind and body craves things that are patently unhealthy. I suspect that in most cases it is because the body has been conditioned to do so. In which case cravings should be resisted. They normally fade away with time.

  • @Kushgroove234

    @Kushgroove234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robsengahay5614 but these cravings give you satiation and "feel right"

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kushgroove234 As far as I can tell, the body craves calorie rich foods. Snickers, Cheetos, Ice Cream, cake, cream filled donuts...

  • @kristinek7436
    @kristinek7436 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for digging deep into the issues and bringing out the best science at this moment. I switched a decade ago to WFPB diet. I look and feel 20 years younger. I just don't see the evidence at this time to support changing back to a diet that hurts the planet and the animals that inhabit it.

  • @DrDaveND
    @DrDaveND Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Once again you bring a reasonable (and kind, gracious) voice to the discussion.

  • @Davidsmorrill
    @Davidsmorrill Жыл бұрын

    I just completed a Masters in communication. My thesis and focus were on the persuasive techniques used in the domains of conspiracies and pseudoscience. This episode was wonderful. Tactfully engaging with mis/dis/mal-info is a quagmire I'm clad you didn't cancel the content for. I want to thank you for being a level-headed supplement to my mentors in the program.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks David! That sounds like a fascinating thesis. I felt somewhat out of my depth talking about that because all I really know I read in Pinker's and McRaney's books. 🤷‍♂️

  • @siloeolive

    @siloeolive

    Жыл бұрын

    I think there is also the aesthetic appeal that goes beyond the rhetorical appeals used in crafting these narratives. Since meat heavy diets have been mostly adopted by gym bros because of the ease of over consuming calories from a calorie dense food source for gaining muscle mass. Meanwhile Whole Foods plant heavy diets in general promote leaner bodies because they are not as calorie dense. Even if plants are healthier for longevity, the image of “beefed” up bodies convinces the vast majority, consciously or subconsciously before even a single fallacious appeal is uttered. The reddish complexion most likely associated with overconsumption of heme iron may also subconsciously give the promoters of such diet the sense of energy and even positive anger. If they cause problems 30 years down the line is irrelevant for the split second decision.

  • @ramspeedmusic

    @ramspeedmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    What haha? Pseudoscience? You’re an expert?!!! You dont have to be an expert to see the Pseudoscience in Plant Chomper’s videos and channel. Go back to school bud.

  • @purpleblueunicorn

    @purpleblueunicorn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@siloeolive Not sure about that theory on caloric density. Olive oil would win there, not meat. Maybe protein to calories ratio, but looks equal to tofu, but that wouldn't be very 'manly'.

  • @siloeolive

    @siloeolive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@purpleblueunicorn Sure, it is not a rule. I mean that in general Whole Foods plant based diets discourage processed plant foods like oil or sugar, making for less calorie dense, fiber rich meals. I personally have always been very skinny. I’ve gained 10 pounds in the past year precisely by pushing myself to eat. It is possible but I’m well aware that animal products are just more calories dense by volume in density.

  • @thisbee66
    @thisbee66 Жыл бұрын

    Love your content and presentation and locations and your deep dive into nutritional reality .

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a pseudo expert.. Professor Kay has fixed all the mistakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @tonimacaskill6533
    @tonimacaskill6533 Жыл бұрын

    I told Chris that the Mendelian graph was hard to follow and I got a little lost. Am I the only one? I think he needs to do an episode on the actual causes of heart disease and make it simpler. Do we have to worry about HDL and triglycerides?

  • @talyah23
    @talyah23 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing all this research so we don't have to...I cannot fathom sitting through all that nonsense. Many people here in South Africa are not fan of Noaks...man's been in and out of court way to often 😩🙏🏼🇿🇦

  • @thisispernyc
    @thisispernyc2 ай бұрын

    Re. Causality of heart disease, how come inflammation is not dicussed as the cause? My understanding is that cholesterol forms plaques, but only as a "band aid" to inflammation. Without inflammation there is no need for the "band aid" (LDL). Heart disease will develop more slowly with lower LDL but that's because the plaques take longer to form and the unrepaired inflammation can lead to cancer, leading to a higher all-cause mortality statistic for those with lower cholesterol levels.

  • @Joseph1NJ
    @Joseph1NJ Жыл бұрын

    Chris will we see you TedEx talk soon? BTW, Happy Holidays to you & yours!

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 Жыл бұрын

    Lore of Running is my favorite book. I read it cover to cover many times, and I ran a 2h16m marathon by taking the advice in that book. Everything in it was right! It was so well written, NOTHING Noakes says can debunk it. Anyone who thinks he's correct in 2022, hasn't read that book and lived it.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    2 hours 16 minute marathon!!!! 👏💪🎯🎉 I do love that book and it's the reason I decided to take on this episode. I didn't realize what darkness followed after and will never understand it. 🤷‍♂️

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers I was an insane runner. I lived it for 8 years. I think I was practically suicidal in my speedwork sessions, several times I thought my heart was gonna stop my pulse was so high. I did this grueling 12 x 1600 (3 minute rest interval) once a week, where my goal (insane as it was) was to run at least one of those miles in under 4.10, and all the rest in under 4.20) And I did it! The pain.....you cannot imagine.....my lungs on fire, heart SCREAMING for oxygen, legs....I could even move afterwards. Then two days later I did a 60 minute lactate threshold run of 12 miles. Every stride was a war with myself. When I was younger, I was laughed at by my friends for being unathletic, and a slow runner, always picked last for sports; and I hated team sports (being slightly autistic had a lot to do with it.) So, I suppose I became as Phil Liggett and the late Paul Sherwin [of Tour de France fame] would say, "a man possessed." My ONE goal in life was to prove my peers SO wrong, they would cringe with embarrassment that they ever doubted me. Every step I ran was saturated with "oh yeah? You wanna BET???" Lol, like Ahab after his whale. I was driven to an extreme, not just motivated, POSSESSED.

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    Epilogue is, I've chilled the heck out, and now run 5 or 6 minute miles a few times a week, just to keep in shape. About 18 miles a week.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peter5.056 Wow, that's AMAZING! I feel like back in the day there was this training ethic of no pain no gain and now there are still some hard workouts, but fewer. More volume, maybe? I have a friend who PR'd 2:12 at Boston and was the only man, I think, to break 2:45 across five decades. 😮 Reno Stirrat. Oh my God.

  • @peter5.056

    @peter5.056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers 2:12!?!? That's some top level running right there.

  • @kellicardaras2805
    @kellicardaras2805 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video again. Always the best quality content. I never fail to learn something from you. Thanks so much!

  • @kencarey3477
    @kencarey34773 күн бұрын

    I've been WFPB since 1983. I have no illness. I never get sick. I lean and fit at 68 years old

  • @TheVafa95
    @TheVafa9510 ай бұрын

    Thanks for all the information, humor and method of delivery. How about having programs about eye health, prevalent eye diseases and their relationship with nutrition?

  • @alexwood1390
    @alexwood1390 Жыл бұрын

    Noakes referencing his 12 days of testimony with Nina Teicholtz reminded me of a point from Robb Wolf you highlighted in a previous video, which really shows how the low carb types think: when he says everytjme a negative study about low carb comes out they all get together to decide who is going to attack it. Which is grossly unscientific, going on the attack against evidence contrary to your views, but I guess when all of your livelihoods and identities are so tied up to a particular ideology (carbs bad, animal foods good, diet heart bad etc) you have to go on the attack or you'll lose all credibility. Anyway, great video as always, really liked the bit about Ken Berry where you highlighted the specific conspiracy theorist techniques he's using, because they're all so manipulative and effective, but people don't notice them

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Alex. If the science is on your side, then contrarian views shouldn't be so threatening, no? But if the science isn't on your side, isn't it better to know? The books I referenced in the video about this say that a conspiracy theorist provided with evidence against his beliefs, will usually deepen their belief in their conspiracies as a result. What?! I wasn't expecting that.

  • @quazilion
    @quazilion Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I wonder who's next. Maybe Ivor Cummins? He's very passionate and sounds very convincing. There's also the low carb down under channel - they have videos with many experts.

  • @glebzarin2619
    @glebzarin2619 Жыл бұрын

    Very needed episode, thank you a lot! I was confused and upset when I watched Dr Noakes Ted talk about diet. As he was a prominent researcher I started to think that maybe I'm missing something. But Industry funding and Nina cooperation is a really bad sign.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought I might be missing something too!

  • @Anarcath
    @Anarcath Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I'm surprised you don't have many more subscribers.

  • @KoreyByrne
    @KoreyByrne Жыл бұрын

    Yep you are the best and most informative nutritional channel with great ways of explaining

  • @rahuldev2380
    @rahuldev2380 Жыл бұрын

    It kinda shows how even the most brilliant people can fall into this trap of bad reasoning. Something we should all keep in mind when we update our belief systems

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    I know, scary, right! When I do these episodes I'm always wondering, am I the crazy one here? Tim is far more accomplished than me when it comes to human physiology. I just can't understand how he slipped down the conspiracy path and probably never will.

  • @shelbi3233
    @shelbi3233 Жыл бұрын

    I am always so excited to see new videos! Your videos have slowly pushed me towards eating more whole plants. I am also losing weight! Thank you and please keep these going!

  • @kekenusucmakli9157
    @kekenusucmakli9157 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on halal (or kosher) meat versus non halal meat? I ask because most of the studies out there are predominantly working with processed factory meats (cows pumped with chemicals and fed unnatural foods). And halal/kosher meat (if following guidelines) are prepared in a completely different way. They are raised and fed naturally (according to species) and are not given any antibiotics. I wonder if the negative associations we see with red meat has more to do with the source/how they’re prepared rather than just the meat itself? I am sure however even too much of the best meat would still create negative health effects. Would be very interested to know what if any studies there are on specifically halal or kosher meat. Thank you for your amazing channel! It does the impossible of being both educational AND entertaining.

  • @mikemcnally1454
    @mikemcnally1454 Жыл бұрын

    Another wonderful video, Chris. I've mentioned this channel to you before, but whenever exploring the complex issue of Ancel Keys, and the preposterous degree to which this towering figure has been villainised, it is well worth checking out the extraordinary work done by Plant Positive.

  • @jeffreywp
    @jeffreywp Жыл бұрын

    What a great job summarizing the sad reality of how conspiracies in the nutrition world have just blinded people and hijacked meaningful conversation. I really appreciated your questions and insights in this video. Well done! What a sad commentary on KZread and other social medias algorithms that will maximize Tim’s video while minimizing yours. Hopefully your channel will continue to garner views and get the quality information. You present out there to the audiences that need to hear it.

  • @HidingFromFate

    @HidingFromFate

    Жыл бұрын

    While I haven't visited there to get a first hand look at how well it actually works, there is a Reddit forum thread or section which is called, "Change My Mind", or something similar. People engage in debate with delta points awarded by forum participants for those other fellow participants who can persuade them to change their points of view. And it turns out those who are the least combative and utilize other positive communication traits accrue the most points. Which then in turn motivates others to do the same. It's discussed a little more starting here (then followed by a discussion about the open science community, which apparently operates in a somewhat similar fashion: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5qGpZqTl6W-ito.html )

  • @puidemare2337

    @puidemare2337

    Жыл бұрын

    So you just believe everything this dude on youtube says without doing your own research? People like this dude love gullible people like you.

  • @michaelhoile1369
    @michaelhoile1369 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your time. These videos 📹 must really take you too some really dark spaces... I look forward to seeing your content, but I can't help feeling your Anguish. Keep powering on. 🍻 👏

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, this episode in particular... I need to do some positive episodes to recover. The darkest part was reading those long, ranting, incoherent essays about unprovable motives of Ancel Keys. "He stole the diet-heart hypothesis from John Gofman in the 50s an attempt to win the Nobel Prize." How could a formerly very respected exercise physiologist come to believe other scientists were trying to destroy him, as he obsessed over destroying the legacy of Ancel Keys? I can't fathom...

  • @Tinky1rs
    @Tinky1rs Жыл бұрын

    Puppy! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one! Anyway, thank you for the video. I'd like to pay attention to such keto doctors (broaden my horizon), but I find too many like in this video: quick pseudoscientific stuff, usually focused on tangently related biochemistry rather than clinical outcomes.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! I do think there is good to be found in some fatty foods like nuts for most people and I would love a more educated, rational representative of the keto movement to show how it can work.

  • @evageliap6880
    @evageliap6880 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Andrew Huberman recently posted a podcast with Dr. Chris Palmer about mental health and how ketosis seems to help improve that matter, and i was wondering what are your thoughts on that?

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Very good question. The honest answer is I don’t know but I’ll have a listen. Thanks!

  • @trentonharris7676

    @trentonharris7676

    Жыл бұрын

    A meat-based ketogenic diet is a species-appropriate diet.

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Жыл бұрын

    As a vegetarian runner in the 70s and 80s, I was nearly hospitalized by 30 with multiple forms of deterioration. I was forced to resume some meat consumption, but remained plant-heavy in my consumption of "healthy whole foods". By 50 I suffered from serious injuries, a-fib requiring five heart re-starts, and many more issues related to chronic inflammation. Fast forward to today, and after 13 years of LCHF and five of carnivore, my health and fitness at 65 is incredible, including 13 years with zero a-fib symptoms, all with no meds whatsoever and supplementing only D3, K2 and some magnesium. Many thanks to Dr. Noakes, Dr. Berry and so many other pioneers in promoting a return to the species-appropriate, animal-baed diet!

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    So eating plants causes afib and meat cures it? Do you have a reference for that?

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547

    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers My only reference is myself. I rely on my experience and deductive ability to make my own way through life, whether it is health, training or coaching. Chasing studies leads to confusion since any agenda can be "backed" with various research which is usually glorified bias confirmation. I prefer to follow where the evidence guides me. My background in biology is of considerable value in this. I have always studied animals of all kinds, including humans, in a holistic and evidentiary way. I deduced that the unusual incidence in older endurance athletes of a-fib might be due to high overall levels of inflammation (which was true for me on high carb), so I went to the lowest inflammation regime I could, which eventually was strict carnivore. I now include seasonal fruit without undue stress or inflammation, probably due to my greatly improved gut biota. As a bonus, in addition to running pain-free for the first time in a 50 year career, I am now very close to a world age record for rock climbing thanks in large part to my greatly improved recovery and joint health.

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on your success and good luck with your age group record!! 💪👏🧗‍♀️

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547

    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers Thanks! Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

  • @trentonharris7676

    @trentonharris7676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers Damn, he shut you up real fast.

  • @sarahinsf
    @sarahinsf8 ай бұрын

    18:12 This may be a silly question, but on the Seven Countries Study graph, "Relationship of Serum Cholesterol to Mortality," there is an overall increase with mortality as the cholesterol rises, but it also appears to me that at the same cholesterol levels, the mortality varies by multiples depending on the country (example: between the cholesterol levels of 6.45 and 7.10, with Japan at roughly an 8 death rate from CHD/1000 men, rising to about 22 death rate in Northern Europe). Is this due to other lifestyle factors between the featured countries? Thanks!

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    8 ай бұрын

    Good question! Yes, culture, exercise, other aspects of the diet have very significant roles.

  • @benjamindover2601
    @benjamindover2601 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah my grandfather was one of those people that smoked like a chimney and ate like a bodybuilder and lived to 93, some people just get lucky with genetics.

  • @joblogos2367
    @joblogos2367 Жыл бұрын

    Can't thank you enough for these videos. These internet famous doctors have a great ability to play into that conspiratorial mindset and make one question their own decisions and strike fear into you. Yourself and a few others do a great job of shedding the light on these charlatans, who unsprisingly are making a fortune from peddling this stuff.

  • @infini_ryu9461
    @infini_ryu9461 Жыл бұрын

    If conflict of interests are bad and a paper should be thrown out because of it, then the studies you presented to affirm your position should be thrown out for their laundry list of conflicts that dwarfs the earlier one's you presented for the opposition. But you won't do that because you don't actually care about COI, you just think "meat production bad, m'kay."

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that factual? The chart I showed had plenty of studies funded by the NIH, not food companies or pharma. They all showed the same thing.

  • @infini_ryu9461

    @infini_ryu9461

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlantChompers The authors cited in the consensus panel paper absolutely have funding from big pharma. What are you really suggesting the meat industry do in response? Just sit and take it as these people blatantly attack them? Most research particularly in the field of nutrition and health has conflicts of interest, it doesn't seem fair to call out one and not the other. Statin producers and sellers for instance are keenly interested in papers on LDL and effects of statins for instance. And why wouldn't they be? No different than the meat industry being interested for the claims they make.

  • @alfredcasasola

    @alfredcasasola

    Жыл бұрын

    @@infini_ryu9461 Plant Chompers has a problem with confirmation bias.

  • @cherylgiles9658
    @cherylgiles9658 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. What brand bike and box on back was that at end ? Ty

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It’s a Rad Wagon. We love it.

  • @harakeke11
    @harakeke11 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chris. Awesome content as always! Summer greetings from Aotearoa--New Zealand.

  • @smilebot484
    @smilebot484 Жыл бұрын

    thanx Chris for having the patience to argue against the crazies.

  • @sigodudando8583
    @sigodudando8583 Жыл бұрын

    It's incredible the amount of care on these videos. Great work as usual.

  • @kendonian357
    @kendonian357 Жыл бұрын

    Well thats 24 minutes of my life that i'll never get back.

  • @caseyshelton7216
    @caseyshelton7216 Жыл бұрын

    I was wanting to switch to a wfpb diet but didn’t know what to eat so I bought the “how not to die” cookbook and it’s been really helpful!

  • @richardcardinale7152

    @richardcardinale7152

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6MlNV9XbjOlLg.html

  • @dorcasmcleod9439

    @dorcasmcleod9439

    Жыл бұрын

    Whole food plant based. Had to look it up. Better to try Carnivore if you want sustainable health.

  • @JohnMoseley

    @JohnMoseley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dorcasmcleod9439 As has been repeatedly shown on this channel, one can do well on a carnivore diet for so long that it seems healthy, but then the carnivores drop dead from heart attacks, while the vegans routinely live into their nineties and beyond.

  • @bjephcott1

    @bjephcott1

    3 ай бұрын

    Like Atkins himself, so many low carb meat heavy dieters yo-yo in size and die early. Keys was obviously not a fraud, I would like to see a more sustained deconstruction of Professor Noakes and Dr Paul Mason’s claims. Teicholz is obviously a lobbyist for the meat industry.

  • @rbphilip
    @rbphilip Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for this. We live in the age of conspiracy theories and people with industry agendas. You mentioned a while ago how unpleasant these debunking videos are to make. On the other side I'm glad you make them so I can see the results, but I still feel slightly "dirty" listening to the whackos. Fortunately I've managed to block the majority of them and no longer see them suggested on YT. How about a cheery video next? :)

  • @PlantChompers

    @PlantChompers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Reading through Dr. Noakes’ incoherent rants about Ancel Keys was dark. 😔

  • @baldbeard7966
    @baldbeard7966 Жыл бұрын

    I really respect you and your research. I am 90 pct plant based and just read "Eat for your type". Any thoughts on that book?

  • @sebstott3573
    @sebstott3573 Жыл бұрын

    The argument that goes "you'd die without cholesterol, therefore cholesterol is benign" is suspiciously similar to the one you used to hear that goes "without CO2 the world would be uninhabitable, therefore CO2 is benign". It's what Hans Rosling called the straight-line fallacy. It's such an obvious logical error that it convinces me he's knowingly trying to mislead people.

  • @ade1963
    @ade1963 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all of the hard work and research

  • @uberneanderthal
    @uberneanderthal Жыл бұрын

    "HE PUSHES CONSPWIACY TEEWEEEES!!" 5 minutes earlier: "any study that finds cholesterol is not a problem is because of a conspiracy by diary and meat" oh the veganity.

  • @Alex-ky4cd

    @Alex-ky4cd

    Жыл бұрын

    At which timestamp does Chris say that?

  • @joeblack7048
    @joeblack7048 Жыл бұрын

    “Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in.”

  • @tpowell3776
    @tpowell377611 ай бұрын

    Just like Jack Lulane said decades ago "Sugar is the killer" ..As a vegan I slowly became a starving metabolic mess, and began craving bad food, today I feel amazing, I knew I should have listened to Jack Lulane in the first place

  • @chuckv8838
    @chuckv8838 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again. I’m always so impressed with your videos. In fact, I wish you’d put one out each week. But - we all know that the intense amount of research you put into this precludes that. Now, the ‘influencers’ don’t have that issue, since they are light on the facts and research. Again, I appreciate the amount of research you do.

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a pseudo expert.. Professor Kay has fixed all the mistakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK6VpMWtpMS-erQ.html

  • @chuckv8838

    @chuckv8838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asecretcountry Nah. I watched Kay. Just a pompous dude. A lot of ad hominem in Kay’s video too. Sorry if that is is your best defense.

  • @chuckv8838

    @chuckv8838

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok I’ve watched 20 minutes of Kay’s video, I’ll be honest, that’s my limit. What a showman. 1:36 to debunk a 24 minute video.

  • @asecretcountry

    @asecretcountry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chuckv8838 Yes ad hominem is Barts schtick...You feel sorry for me that science with sarcasm from a scientist against a sickly looking crackpot with no relevant credentials is my best defence..?..I think the soy has rotted your brain but hey..its your choice :)

  • @chuckv8838

    @chuckv8838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asecretcountry Thanks…didn’t realize ad hominem was a Schtick.

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