Dr. Allen Davis: Why I Left Seventh-day Adventism (Introduction)

This video is the introduction to a seven-part series on the reasons I left the Seventh-day Adventist faith. All opinions are my own, and any reference(s) I cite will be shared in the respective video's description.
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  • @oksanabumstead
    @oksanabumstead Жыл бұрын

    I am really looking forward to your presentation, as myself and my husband left SDA on all the same issues/points. God bless you in your work!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your support and encouragement. 🙏🏻🙂

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    Good for him He saw the light

  • @TesttheProphet
    @TesttheProphet Жыл бұрын

    I am eager to hear what your thoughts are on Adventism, Dr. Davis. Will keep an eye on this series.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    My intent, like you have been, is to be objective, fair, and thorough. I’m going to take my time, while not being overly delayed in publishing the talks.

  • @TesttheProphet

    @TesttheProphet

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hadavisjr That is the best approach.

  • @BenBen-bf7wg

    @BenBen-bf7wg

    Жыл бұрын

    I would suggest you talk to someone who knows the truth. This man is not telling the truth. Whether he knows it or not only God knows. I have seen so many half truths and innuendos that he has stated which if believed will only mislead.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    More psychobabble. Put up or shut up…it’s that simple. Provide tangible, cogent counter-arguments, other than simple mindless refutations. Do that, and I’ll listen.

  • @andryranivoarizaka9772
    @andryranivoarizaka97726 күн бұрын

    Hi Dr Davis. I'm a SDA and a theologian/philosopher, which means that whatever I here or see, whether I agree or not, I'm always interested and ready to listen and search. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm looking forwards to listening to your presentations. In my view, SDA stands or falls on something theologically and philosophically more profound than the investigative judgment or the prophetic nature of Ellen G. White. I'd say these only show the visible part of the iceberg. What is under the water is way more complexe and hardly has it been tackled regarding apologetics, whether one is pro-SDA or anti-SDA, so far. God bless you Sir.

  • @Leonidas300SP
    @Leonidas300SP11 ай бұрын

    I left the Sda church as well a few months back & it's been heavy on my heart to share. After 4 years of being super involved the unloving & extremist nature of those at my church nearly killed me spiritually.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, given a chance, they will suck your will to live, seeking to control every aspect of who you are.

  • @Leonidas300SP

    @Leonidas300SP

    11 ай бұрын

    We should do an interview at some time. I would like to learn more about your experience. I would also like to share my story with you. Perhaps I can email it to you in written format?

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    There criticism of other denominations is evil

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr well said

  • @joeverduzco8102
    @joeverduzco81029 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to your Video's. A a Former Adventist, I enjoy Truth from those Who Left SDA. Bod Bless and Stay Well!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    9 ай бұрын

    Thx for stopping by...may the LORD richly bless you!

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you left

  • @ianstuart5660
    @ianstuart5660 Жыл бұрын

    I must add looking forward to your talks as well. Thanks for everything, past, present and future!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @ruthpatterson2426
    @ruthpatterson24262 ай бұрын

    My friend. You helped me to stay encouraged in the faith. Our convos on the phone and your knowledge lead me to finally leave the city in faith, buy 10acres and now my daughter and I living off grid! I buckled in, as you told me and now I found freedom, while staying a true Biblical Adventist! What happened to you? I just saw a video that you left. I had no idea. I. Truly hurt! I can't even mustard the strength to listen to your reasoning. I guess in the end we all return back to our beginning if the truth was never there! 😔😥

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi Ruth, good to hear from you. It’s been a long journey for me. After a thorough study of James, Ecclesiastes, and especially Hebrews, I began to see I was wrong about so many things. The videos on my other channel highlight the journey and the reasons I left. Frankly, it’s still necessary to buckle up and brace for impact. I pray you and your daughter are well.

  • @ruthpatterson2426

    @ruthpatterson2426

    Ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Forgive my delay. Just confused on isaues and needed time for the Holy Spirit to reveal things to me. Can you please tell me more? I'm struggling right now from New understanding I've come into. I'm discovering life is more spiritual than anything over any religion. On any account, I know you're probably real busy so if I don't hear from you, I hope for God's glory to shine in your life till his great arrival!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Ай бұрын

    If you haven't watched the "Background" video on my other channel, please do. It's the second video. That one sets the stage for a host of reasons for my departure from SDA-ism. As for the spiritual matter, yes I get what you're saying. Religion tends to be man's way of putting God in a box. At the same time, the word "spiritual" has come to mean some undefinable and ethereal, touchy-feely, anything goes as long as it's not temporal or secular -- devoid of God and Jesus. I doubt if that's what you mean, but just know I've talked to many folk, who lean in that direction.

  • @ruthpatterson2426

    @ruthpatterson2426

    Ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Not talking about spiritually. Which the world is caught up in. On any account thank you!

  • @cactusannie738
    @cactusannie738 Жыл бұрын

    This is going to be good. Am tempted by the vegan lifestyle so often. Always ends with foot pain, and back to animal protein. It's medicine to me.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it can be tempting, and many go down that path, only to find -- like yourself -- the physical and mental effects are taxing. And it doesn't get any easier the older one gets.

  • @BirdieBird77

    @BirdieBird77

    17 күн бұрын

    SDAs do not advocate a VEGAN diet neither did EGWhite. A vegetarian diet is best.

  • @BirdieBird77

    @BirdieBird77

    17 күн бұрын

    Even the world sees the benefits huh

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    17 күн бұрын

    Yes, EGW did indeed advocate a vegan diet, as Adam had in his sinless state (there’s your clue), for the seeking of perfection and salvation. She herself didn’t practice it, and she even ate oysters after God supposedly gave her a health vision.

  • @healinghumanity1782
    @healinghumanity17826 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the chance to join the discussion. I would say that if you were an Adventist for many years, then, you changed affiliation by joining another denomination where you stay for many years; such a “change” is really not a fundamental one. It’s like if you were going North for many years & then you decide to go South & keep going in that new direction. Any lasting change is when you don’t have a direction at all. As long as you are stuck in your present spiritual home just as you were previously committed in Adventist beliefs, you are still under the spell of the same process. Only when you are not tethered to any belief can you be said to be different & free of the past. Do you see what I mean?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    6 ай бұрын

    Yup. I’m not tied to any denomination. I take each day one at a time and see what Yehovah reveals. Reading the Bible without shackles has been quite refreshing - no longer have to worry about disagreeing with EGW and thus becoming a heretic to the denomination.

  • @BirdieBird77
    @BirdieBird7717 күн бұрын

    So, do we send you our tithes and offerings! Are you starting a church? Do you still keep the Sabbath? Does it matter what day we keep?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    17 күн бұрын

    I have not and will not start a church. Re: money, I neither need nor want your money. Your question re: Sabbath and keeping a day is chock full of legalism, telling me you don’t understand it at all. I’ve made several videos on my other channel. Please watch those if you’re so inclined.

  • @calvingreen5133
    @calvingreen5133 Жыл бұрын

    I look forward to comparing notes. I woke up 3 years ago. Im 54 and been SDA my whole life. Had to step away to study for myself. What I miss most though is the fellowship, comradery with mens ministry, and being part of the music ministry. I may return just for those things.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    My wife and I attend Sabbath School, so we can wake up these folk to biblical truth. I understand the need for fellowship. I pray you find what you need and what God has in mind for you.

  • @rayray4192

    @rayray4192

    Жыл бұрын

    So you want to hang out with heretics and blasphemers? What?

  • @rayray4192

    @rayray4192

    Жыл бұрын

    Comrades in heresy? Make a quality decision to leave the disgusting Adventist demonic cult. No half stepping. Come out. Get a dog, join a hiking club, find actual Christians who play music. Find a real Christian community. What are you doing?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 Seriously, so many folk want and need the social aspect, and that’s the trap of any denomination. I haven’t heard back from him, and I hope the subtle song of the siren doesn’t bring him crashing into the rocks.

  • @Knife_Collector
    @Knife_Collector6 күн бұрын

    I am Church of God 7th Day, and I'm sure you know the history, we separated from James and Ellen White's teachings back in 1858. The one question I have, is tho I do not drink, it wine a sin? I am told that wine in the Scriptures was grape juice, not wine as we know it. But all references I find in Scripture, refers to it having alcoholic effects. If all verses referring to wine is talking about grape juice, then one would think eating more than a handful of grapes at a time would be wrong. Can you give some insight on this?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    5 күн бұрын

    Yes, I’m aware of the history behind COG7. Thx 🙂 More often than not, the wine spoken of in Scripture is alcoholic, except for during Passover. Many faith groups condemn its use, in general, but we find no biblical prohibition except for priests. Consuming wine, beer, or spirits is not a sin of itself. An occasional partaking is to be a joyous time. Take a look at Deu 14::22-26. What can be a sin, however, is excess and addiction, such that it affects your relationship with Jesus and others.

  • @nicholascroker4057
    @nicholascroker4057 Жыл бұрын

    Bring it on Allen

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻🙏🏻 It’s time i share my experience of going in, and coming out again.

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes do

  • @doherpa
    @doherpa10 ай бұрын

    That link for your new channel doesn’t work for me. What is it called?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    10 ай бұрын

    🤔 Dr. Allen Davis: Theology & Faith

  • @doherpa

    @doherpa

    10 ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr thanks.

  • @MrValjester
    @MrValjester Жыл бұрын

    Allen, I saw you on SDA Q&A. Two things piqued my interest. Aviation and State of the Dead, lol. What ratings do you hold? I am an ex SDA who is a Boeing 737 captain for a major airline. Second, I would like to offer my thoughts on the state of the dead. If you take a look at the Old Testament as it relates to the state of the dead, it is clear that believers who passed do not go to heaven. In Matthew 27:52, the Bible describes saints whom arose from the dead when Christ uttered the words: “it is finished.” I believe those were believers who were saved on credit. They had no path to heaven until the plan of salvation was complete; the very same path that is now available to you and I. This idea however is not a hill the believer must take his stand because it simply does not matter. Doctrine is for the living, not the dead. Ellen White and SDA belief in the state of the dead forces both God and the recently deceased into time where neither exist. If you tell a terminally Ill person that the minute he closes his eyes in death, he will be in heaven, you have told the truth whether you believe in soul sleep or immediate departure to Glory. This is because time does not exist for him. We can go stand by this persons grave and sincerely believe that he is waiting to be resurrected to glory, because we exist in time. To the deceased, he is already there. So we are left with a perception problem that shows EGWs lack of understanding of her state of the dead belief. MTC

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy, and thx for the note. Re: the issue about death, I understand what you're saying, and no, it's not a hill upon which to die. At the end of the day, I don't see it as a salvific issue. As for my flying, I have time in T-37, T-38, KC-135, and C-5 aircraft from my USAF days. At one point, at the 9-year mark, I was going to separate and fly for the Oklahoma ANG, as well as get my 737 type rating and fly for SWA. All the pieces didn't fall in place, and so I stayed in uniform and retired. It was difficult, though not impossible, being SDA. Things would've turned out much differently, I believe, had I not been SDA, but I don't have many regrets. As for my current ratings, I'm a commercial pilot with ME/SE ratings as a CFI & CFII, and that's what I've been doing the last nearly-six years, and in that time period, I've logged 4500 dual hours. I'd considered getting my ATP, but I didn't know the rules changed in 2014, such that I couldn't self-endorse for the written exam. Now, I'd have to go to the ATP-CTP course, and frankly, I don't want to give out the cash and go thru the brain-damage of stuff I've already done. And for what? I don't plant to fly Part 121. I'd consider Part 135, which doesn't necessarily require an ATP. But I think in the long run, I'd like to be a DPE....it's a great gig. Thx for commenting....I really appreciate it!

  • @MrValjester

    @MrValjester

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Thanks for your reply. It is not often that you find an active CFI with your level experience. Your students are fortunate. I am an instructor of sorts as well. I spent a fair amount of time teaching people how not to injure themselves on their mountain bikes! I have seen many a dream altered by what I now believe to be the errant believe in Sabbath observance. This is starting to change within Adventism. Walla Walla Adventist University has a very active aviation program. I am assuming it’s genesis was a preparation for flying in the “mission field.” However, a significant number of the universities aviation graduates are leaving the program and actively pursuing airline careers. This has to be a major seaway change in the fundamental beliefs of the churches young people. I have assisted several. I also am very careful to ensure that they know exactly what they are getting into. In a seniority based system, a junior pilot will work every weekend and live in a crash pad in Queens! Lol. I am also wondering how long this successful program might be allowed to exist if church leadership understands the fruits of their labor are ending up as 121 pilots? As you might expect, I abandoned Sabbath observance as being unsubstantiated and unBiblical. I believe it is not wrong to observe the Sabbath as a day of worship if you wish. However, to observe Sabbath as a condition precedent to salvation places the believer in the precarious position of explaining to his creator why Calvary isn’t sufficient. My family are proud members of Denton Bible Church (Tommy Nelson, Senior Pastor)

  • @sunshiner29

    @sunshiner29

    2 ай бұрын

    God made time. He made daily time, weekly time, prophetic time. Jesus said the time is fulfilled in the 69th week entering the 70th week. Concerning His death, He said, My time is not yet, but your time is always ready. The wonderful, merciful, kindness of God is to take back our breath of life so that our sense of time, knowledge, & feeling stops, until the 2nd coming of Christ or if we are wicked, until the 2nd resurrection. The wise words of warning Jesus spoke helped His disciples & us to be ready because we really don't know when our name will come up before the Father to be kept in the Book of Life or to be blotted out. As we examine ourselves to see whether we are in the faith of Jesus & share with one another, we can temper one another to remain steadfast & immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.

  • @MrValjester

    @MrValjester

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sunshiner29. The investigative judgement and the "book of life" are not Biblically founded and this purely SDA doctrines is fantasy based on Ellen white writings

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    2 ай бұрын

    @sunshiner29 If you are in Christ, you are sealed and in the Book of Life. This idea of your name coming up is nonsense and frankly, it’s heresy. Please read your Bible absent of EGW.

  • @thomashughes4859
    @thomashughes4859 Жыл бұрын

    I look forward to your talks.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to take my time, and these talks will be longer than "normal". I won't sacrifice the health channel in doing so, but I need to ensure I don't get overly taxed.

  • @thomashughes4859

    @thomashughes4859

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Our religions are part of our health.

  • @gerrymcintosh4477

    @gerrymcintosh4477

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dr. Davis, hope you are well. I just wanted to wish you well with your new channel. I’ve always enjoyed your videos and the positive messages of love, kindness and respect. I look forward to hearing the new content. Wish you well. God Bless 🙏💝🇨🇦

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx, Gerry. I very much appreciate your encouragement and your support. The forthcoming talks will no doubt be taxing for me on many levels, and yet, by the grace of God go I. Blessings!

  • @ivermec-tin666
    @ivermec-tin666 Жыл бұрын

    While I have no direct personal exposure to SDAism, I do with LDS, JW, and Catholicism. I have found their additions to the word, and their peculiar reinterpretations to be troubling. I find myself to be without refuge as the Episcopal church in which I was raised (baptised, confirmed, and married) has embraced political agendas that eclipse the gospel. This is a difficult landscape for a lamb to navigate, full of troubled and troublesome doctrine which preys on one's good nature. The world seems full of wickedness and deception, certainly more so than a few decades ago. I am engaged by your pilgrim's progress on many levels. Thank you for sharing it.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    The information I intend to share will hopefully cause many SDAs who are wrestling with these subjects to reconsider their connexion with the denomination and focus on a true relationship with Jesus; hence, God. Their minds have been so twisted by the gaslighting garbage that comes from those within the movement, especially many of the so-called self-supporting ministries. The diet they've been told to embrace has only dulled their senses further. I can only hope what I share will bear much fruit. Honestly, I'll probably need a security detail after I'm finished, especially living in what is essentially an extended SDA ghetto.

  • @ivermec-tin666

    @ivermec-tin666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Perish that thought. SDA's don't seem to default to retribution or mayhem. I hope my impression of this is on the mark.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    The general population doesn't. But those who have something to lose, and whose wiles will be revealed....well, they're a different sort altogether.

  • @tigermotive2378

    @tigermotive2378

    Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, SDA JW and LDS all rose up in New England area, LDS came first, then SDA and JW both came out of the failed millerite doomsday cult.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    All had false prophets

  • @tigermotive2378
    @tigermotive2378 Жыл бұрын

    Would love you to do one on what Doug Batchelor was really like, I see traits of a master narcissist in him. He’s very manipulative the way he twists scripture mixed with some amazing fact to bend the audience to his will.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    I would never do that. It’s a breach of integrity and professionalism.

  • @BenBen-bf7wg

    @BenBen-bf7wg

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@hadavisjr Where is Ted Wilsons talk?

  • @peterbamford2811

    @peterbamford2811

    11 ай бұрын

    Doug batchelor has all the manner and style of a snake oil salesman with his interpretation of scripture taken out of context and shuffled around to suit the preplanned narrative!

  • @BirdieBird77

    @BirdieBird77

    17 күн бұрын

    Hahahahaha

  • @jcr5628
    @jcr5628 Жыл бұрын

    Tho the church may seem to be falling Christ will always make sure the church will go forward. This makes me sad that you felt the need to leave the Seventh-day Adventism. Yes you do have a choice and this is the path that you have chosen. I'm 71 years old and have always loved the church and will continue to love the church and its message, even with its flaws and blunders. To me it's the only church that has the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes the old devil is feeding its people a lot of garbage but I choose to not eat the garbage but the wholesome word of God. We have to be like the Bereans and study the word of God and lean on Him and only Him. Again I'm sorry you felt the need to leave. And I'm sorry so many felt the need to leave but do keep holding on to Jesus for He is our only source of salvation. The church can't save you and we can't even save ourselves.

  • @BenBen-bf7wg

    @BenBen-bf7wg

    Жыл бұрын

    I am longer in the church and I agree with you. Allen mis states things that Ted Wilson said unfortunately.

  • @jcr5628

    @jcr5628

    Жыл бұрын

    Think what makes it sadder for me about Mr. Davis, is I have heard his sermons that he has given and always received a rich blessing from him. I even wrote and told him too. This was before he decided to leave the church. My heart is so broken but when I think of Jesus as how His heart must be broken as well. I learned thru life NOT to look to people but only to the wonderful Man in the middle, which is Jesus who died for me and for all of us.

  • @joymbale6956
    @joymbale695626 күн бұрын

    Sda preach everything in the bible, thus says the Lord. What is the 28 fundamental.??

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    24 күн бұрын

    Not everything SDAs preach is from the Bible. Please go to my other channel to learn. As for the 28 Fundamental Beliefs, they’re what’s required for you to be a member.

  • @devonwright1884
    @devonwright18845 ай бұрын

    While jesus walk on earth people find everything wrong with him but there are other who find everything right with him. Then devil uses people against God's word and they dont know that. The question is am i against the word of god. Before we present the spirit of god must be in us so as not to create confusion. If the sabbath is wrong then stealing is right. Let pray for a total INFILLING of the holy spirit.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    5 ай бұрын

    Who said the Sabbath is wrong? Do you believe Ellen White is the Word of God?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    5 ай бұрын

    @devonwright1884 Given this is a new account, I'm incredulous as to your motivation. Again I ask, Do you believe Ellen White's writings are the Word of God? Also, whoever said Sabbath is wrong?

  • @juancarlosfernandez9597
    @juancarlosfernandez9597Ай бұрын

    Many a star which we have admired for its brilliancy will then be extinguished in darkness.-Prophets and Kings, 140 (1914). In the closing scenes of this earth's history, men whom He [God] has greatly honored will imitate ancient Israel.... A desertion of the great principles which Christ has laid down in His teachings, the carrying out of human projects, using the Scriptures to justify a wrong course of action under the wicked operation of Lucifer, will confirm men in error, and the truth which they need to protect them from erroneous practices will leak from their souls, as water from a cracked vessel.-Manuscript Releases 13:379, 381 (1904).

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Ай бұрын

    First off, “Prophets & Kings” was published in 1915, after EGW’s death. Second, the Ms to which you refer was about Dr. Kellogg and his panentheism: he strayed completely from the Gospel and taught - of all things - trinitarianism and false pictures of God, which she admonished. This passage was specific to him, and you using this in application to me demonstrates you’re in a cult.

  • @ruthlopez4925
    @ruthlopez492511 күн бұрын

    All this is going to catch up to you.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    9 күн бұрын

    Is that a threat of condemnation from you? Jesus would never have said such a thing, which doesn’t surprise me because Jesus isn’t in SDA-ism. This comment tells me, you’re not a Christian.

  • @pilgrim5217
    @pilgrim52172 ай бұрын

    Sad to see such a brilliant mind to be deceived by the devil. Repent and turn Mr. Allen

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    2 ай бұрын

    @pilgrim5217 Repent and turn from what? I’ve found complete and total rest in Christ Jesus. Have you?

  • @king-nick2023
    @king-nick20237 ай бұрын

    I still believe in the sabbath but I definitely did leave

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    7 ай бұрын

    There is nothing wrong with Sabbath observance -- it's biblical. The problem is the cultish lie of all the SDA doctrines and how they seek to manipulate and control people.

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    Great

  • @7th-Day

    @7th-Day

    12 күн бұрын

    @@hadavisjr you mean the very same SDA that you couldn't fool into accepting your cultish and esoteric Antitrinitarian doctrines?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    12 күн бұрын

    @7th-Day I’m not the trinitarian cultist and pagan. That would be you and “pastor” E.

  • @redwoodsorel5173
    @redwoodsorel5173 Жыл бұрын

    I wish that I could rejoice with you, but my heart is grieved. We know there are tares in the wheat and that the organization is not God's church, but the truth was brought to the fallen world through those who were willing to stand out where they could be counted. And you were one of those men. You influenced me so powerfully in my understanding of who God is. We are told to weep with those who weep....but you're not weeping. You don't see that Satan snared you. Through his lies. I believe that underneath all your health problems your heart is still tender and hurting from the mistreatment you received. But don't throw God under the bus because of false representatives and people who took down our movement. The movement that changed the world and the roaring lion became a squeaky mouse because of false teachers from within and so Satan placed truth just where he wanted it....out of sight and the true children are leaving the sinking ship like rats. And who is left to stand? I for one. Though I am nobody, yet I am one. I pray for you. You are a man of strength of character and stand for what you believe. Search your heart and stand alone if you must.

  • @jackiedavis3453

    @jackiedavis3453

    Жыл бұрын

    Rest assured, Dr. Davis continues to “stand out where he can be counted”, as evidenced by this channel and the videos he has posted, and will post in the future. Your finger wagging and attempts to play on emotion are of no effect here; Dr. Davis has studied and prayed. He has been led to a deeper understanding, and his health-physical, spiritual, and emotional-testify to this.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx for your comment. I understand what you're wanting to tell me, and yet, I believe you won't be disappointed to hear what I have to share. Please consider this: SDA-ism was born out of a grievous error, the failed prophecy of 1844 (which at first was 1843). Absent of Hiram Edson and O. R. L. Crozier, no one would've ever come up with the idea of Jesus moving from the Holy to the Most Holy Place. And yet, because they did, an entire denomination was born after "confirmation" by Ellen White in Dec of 1844. I'm sure you know, both Edson and Crozier left SDA-ism because they saw it did not correlate with the actual testimony given by Jesus and the apostles. The book of Hebrews does not teach a movement from the HP to the MHP in 1844, but rather, upon Jesus' ascension into Heaven, at which point He sat down because His work was finished. I'll discuss this issue more in-depth. My position on and understanding of God (I believe you mean the issue surrounding a true monotheistic position) hasn't changed; it's only edified. I will cover that in one video, and I'm hopeful you'll be even more encouraged than before with a deeper understanding. You're correct, the organization isn't the church, and yet, is the church actually fulfilling the commission of Jesus Christ? I don't see it. Here's another area I'll address. Investigative judgment: Again, the teachings of Jesus and the apostles nullify such a concept set forth by EGW and the early pioneers. I'll address and answer the questions, what does it mean to perfect one's character and to finish the work? What does it mean to be a Sabbath-keeper? SDAs have missed this boat, and sadly, have come to worship the day rather than understanding the Gospel contained within the Sabbath. Ellen White: pretty much everything peculiar about the denomination stands or falls on her. Thus, here are some questions I ask you to please ponder: If she's incorrect on even *one matter* does that make her a false prophet? Also, for those SDAs who say they don't read EGW as an inspired voice, then I contend, they're not really SDAs, because the fundamental beliefs attest to her authority and continuing voice. Of course, there are those who hold to the FBs from 1889 -- before the trinity insertion -- and they do not raise up EGW as a pen or voice of authority, and yet, they still -- without realizing it -- frame their biblical understanding/interpretation upon her writings; so, if she's found out to be incorrect on one or several fronts, does that in effect nullify the doctrine? I go back to what I stated earlier, many of the biblical understandings of the pioneers were *confirmed* by Ellen White, and yet, none of these confirmations were absent of her knowing the matter they were discussing, and by her own admission, she had no clue about what they were saying. I'll discuss what happened to her in these instances, physiologically, and provide a view not many are willing to consider, much less accept. Concerning my health, I've never felt better, and I thank you for considering it. It was the so-called SDA health message that brought me to my knees physically. Had I continued on that path, God only knows where I'd be today. Thus, I'll address the error contained in the current message, as well as the historical one. I realize much of what I've learned and concluded will be shunned by many because, quite frankly, they're in bondage: friends, family, employment. It's difficult to break away from a system upon which one has been tied, and I can attest to this after 28 years of it. I hope the messages I share will be ones of hope and liberation from the bonds of men and a springboard into the arms of God in Christ.

  • @charnelallan7159

    @charnelallan7159

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats cultic. Ur clearly indoctrinated

  • @williamhartweg6935
    @williamhartweg6935Ай бұрын

    The Lord says," the sign between me and you is Ezekiel 20 :12-20 and Exodus 31:13! He doesn't say,the Church is perfect! Grain and Wheat grow together! Matthew 13:30 4:02

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Ай бұрын

    Thou dost err, not knowing (i.e., understanding) the Scripture.

  • @7th-Day

    @7th-Day

    12 күн бұрын

    @hadavisjr I notice You keep using this same excuse when you don't want to answer the questions. How about you answer the question rather than redirecting people to videos just to get more views.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    12 күн бұрын

    @@7th-Day I don’t care about views. My channel isn’t, hasn’t been, and never will be monetized. I don’t ask for money. I follow the Bible principle of, “He who does not work shall not eat.” Re: answering questions, I answer people who really are seeking, not those who should know better. Does this method sound familiar to you?

  • @7th-Day

    @7th-Day

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@hadavisjr in other words, you don't answer people who challenge you. You only answer those who don't offer any resistance. Got it.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    12 күн бұрын

    @@7th-Day Don’t be stupid, yet again. I’ve debated many, especially on the trinity issue - all walk away knowing they’re idolators.

  • @7ashoBeam
    @7ashoBeam12 күн бұрын

    I just came across this and thinking, you didn't really leave the SDA Church because you weren't an SDA in the first place and consequently you just got shaken out and now being used by the devil as a mouthpiece for his slander!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    12 күн бұрын

    You keep telling yourself that. Did that fox “pastor” E send you to harass me?

  • @h32xyg97
    @h32xyg97 Жыл бұрын

    Dr.Davis, I had the utmost respect for 7th day advents till couple years ago when I learned of their sinister desires for the world thru food agendas. I am thankful for men like you that bring evil to the surface where the light can sanitize it. I'm from the G.I.Joe generation, their motto was "knowing is half the battle".

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    During my entire time in SDA-ism, I was not aware of their behind-the-scenes work, for example, in Australia. Once I saw what was happening, even in the USA, I was appalled! I saw their overly zealous push toward vegetarianism (even veganism) had to be a smokescreen, and this was one of the first steps that led me out the door. There is a desire among the masses to follow the Bible, but when you look at the top, you have to follow the money.

  • @jcr5628

    @jcr5628

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hadavisjr I guess I saw it differently. I saw it as being healthy and you saw it differently which is fine. I didn't realize it being a smokescreen. I myself appreciated them giving the health message, even tho I don't follow it to the T. But I am trying. I still give people choices on the foods they want to eat and still love them. My husband eats meat sometimes and that is his choice. All I asked of him is that he doesn't ask me to cook it. And he agreed. We can always find things wrong with the church but we can also find things that are right. I still believe the message is right. It really saddens me Dr. Allen cause I had a lot of respect for your messages that you had given. There's some ministers that I don't listen to anymore and to be honest I miss hearing them but I can't because of the wrong they are preaching. You are one of the ones I'm truly going to miss.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry you feel the way you do. My aim is not to please men, but rather to do the works of Him that has called and sent me. You were willing for a time to hang on every word, thinking I was a shining light, when it agreed with your opinion. But when I bring the sun of righteousness, you and others still want your flashlight - your so-called lesser light. I then become a devil to you, a carnivorous glutton and a sinner; a wolf in sheep’s clothing and Jesuit sympathizer. Shame on you.

  • @Lyspitznagel3536

    @Lyspitznagel3536

    19 күн бұрын

    Wow 😮😢

  • @7ashoBeam

    @7ashoBeam

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@hadavisjrJudas was the one who hanged himself so it was shame on him for being a traitor like you!

  • @ezechielrasi7672
    @ezechielrasi7672 Жыл бұрын

    Leave away and I m happy to take your place ok

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    Жыл бұрын

    🤔😕

  • @stan9458
    @stan94588 ай бұрын

    Sad to watch this. I had been a Seventh Day Adventist for over 30 years, (catholic background) and throughout this time I had an experience having conversations and having my beliefs being challenged by other protestants and catholics and more and more I see this church the MOST BEAUTIFUL CHRISTIANS on the planet. Yes SDA is made of people coming from all over. they bring their ideas with them, many are extreme in some areas, some in others. But it is the Bible believing church like no other. You can say whatever you want, but I think there is another hidden agenda underneath your words. Another reasons you would be shame to reveal that lead you to leave the church. I met many people who left the church. and interestingly each one had one hidden personal reason. The rest is just an excuse. a smoke screen to make it look reasonable and to blame the church. After over 30 years of being SDA for which I'm thankful to God I know that if an adventist wants to leave the church, THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO. Nowhere. And if you join another group, that mean YOU HAD NEVER BEEN AN ADVENTIST AT ALL. I feel pity for you my friend.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    8 ай бұрын

    There is a place to go: to Jesus, and therefore, to God. SDA-ism doesn’t preach the Gospel; rather, they teach and indoctrinate people into their unique beliefs. SDAs do not accept the Bible alone. Absent of EGW, you have no basis for your belief; thus, it’s a cult…it’s Babylon to the highest degree. All I’ve read in this comment is how you disagree with me as well as evil surmising. This, sir, makes you no friend of the Gospel or of Jesus; hence, you are no friend of mine. This does not mean you’re my enemy, but any fellowship with those who’ve rejected the clear teaching of God’s word warrants only rebuke.

  • @jack-ch5lr

    @jack-ch5lr

    5 ай бұрын

    Really? So you are good enough to judge him sound hypocritical

  • @7th-Day
    @7th-Day12 күн бұрын

    Your one to talk. You say we just need the Bible, YET YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. The Bible says Jesus is God and everlasting (John Chapter 1, Micah Chapter 5). You say if we believe that, YOU'RE WORSHIPPING JESUS AS AN IDOL. The Bible says there are THREE that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these Three are One (1 John 5:7). You, on the other hand, belong to the Antitrinitarian Movement that says NO to those very Scriptures, claiming they were balsed on forgeries, despite historical evidence to the contrary. Who are you to lecture anyone about Ellen White when the person you throw under the bus never ever, ever says to disbelieve this or that Scripture just because it goes against what you want it to say? Last time I checked, that's YOUR MOVEMENT that does that, not Ellen White. May the Lord have mercy on you.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    12 күн бұрын

    Jesus is the DIVINE Son of JEHOVAH. Thou dost err, not knowing the Scripture. Listen to my messages on Monotheism. As for this comment, please don’t be stupid, or think I am for that matter. I know why you’re here and who sent you. Please tell that silver-tongued tool of satan, he needs to cease leading you and others down the wrong path into perdition, all the while taking the money God gave you to do the work of true religion. He’s blocked me, so perhaps he’ll listen to one of his minions.

  • @ruthlopez4925
    @ruthlopez492511 күн бұрын

    You are going to regret for leaving the 7th Day Adventist religion. You know what it said in the Old testament the beginning of the Bible God rested on the 7th day. Saturday is the Sabbath day not Sunday.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    11 күн бұрын

    I have no regrets for leaving, and I never will. Sadly, your statement is very legalistic, just like the Jews who condemned Jesus.

  • @hilderees9921
    @hilderees99216 ай бұрын

    I will definitely not be watching any further videos by this man. He was once a bright light in our church and highly respected, truly heartbreaking that he has turned from the truth.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    6 ай бұрын

    And from what truth, pray tell, have I turned? Here’s something to consider: One cannot be a bright light in darkness, while being a part of that darkness.

  • @johnriggs3143
    @johnriggs314311 ай бұрын

    All I can say, is, JESUIT!

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    11 ай бұрын

    Wow, you sure did put a lot of thought into that one - so original.

  • @johnriggs3143

    @johnriggs3143

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr I call it, like I see! EGW said there would come apostasy and a falling away. The Holy Spirit led you into the truth, what spirit led you out?

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    11 ай бұрын

    The very fact you bring the false prophet, Ellen White, into the conversation tells me, you cannot see. Perhaps you should visit my other channel and open-mindedly listen to my reasons and the contextual biblical support. Then, if you don’t agree and have substantive points, I’ll listen to you. In the meantime, please take your Walter Veith brainwashing and go live in your echo chamber.

  • @johnriggs3143

    @johnriggs3143

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hadavisjr Spoken like the Jesuit you are, Allen, the difference between you and I, is that I know what your order is about. You have trained to infiltrate protestantism and to bring division from the inside. It's funny you bring up Dr. Vieth, because he is the main one exposing the order to which you belong. It's amazing what hackers can find on people.

  • @hadavisjr

    @hadavisjr

    11 ай бұрын

    😂😂Bring it, fool. If you’re a hacker, then expose me as a Jesuit. You have nothing because there is nothing. Now, I have connexions and can run your background to the n-th degree. Would you like to play a game? Your vegan diet has given you a frontal lobotomy to the extent of needing to be committed, not unlike Veith et al.