Down the pub with Adrian Chiles
Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and author. His book, The Good Drinker, is out now.
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I gave up drinking a decade ago. It was either that or early death. My drinking habits were very similar to those of AC. My fear on giving up was not so much the pain of withdrawal I would go through, but far more how would I live my life, how would I fill my days, how would I survive being on holiday. I was retired (early) and virtually all my days were centred around a beer and I could not imagine a life, or doing anything, which did not involve a drink. Unlike AC I knew that if I still frequented pubs and tried to recreate my old life with alcohol-free beers I would soon relapse into full-time drinking. I only had this one chance. Sit me anywhere in the world with a pint and a crossword and I could pass my days happily. Nothing could replace that. I thought All my activities and social life were centred around having a beer and it was overcoming that which proved difficult but essential. I managed it, but good luck to all those thinking of giving up. Do it!
@robbiebrown7177
Жыл бұрын
Really great that you’re so open about this. I have thought about giving up drink entirely, but fearful of the impact on my social life. I will get there eventually and stories like this make me think that it’ll be the right decision once I come to it.
@fritzhenning1
Жыл бұрын
It is possible, honestly. Saving £200+ a week is also a considerable incentive, but the biggest incentive is knowing the alternative.
@fritzhenning1
Жыл бұрын
@@robbiebrown7177 Oh and another incentive was having people remember me as ; 'OK bloke, but silly sod drank himself to death'. At least George Best was remembered as a brilliant footballer as well as a silly sod who drank himself to death.
@fritzhenning1
Жыл бұрын
@Rick Bartley Well done you! My worry for AC is whether he is kidding himself that he is actually cutting down sufficiently to be 'reclassified' as a purely social drinker. Slipping back into bad habits is easily done. Two pints becomes four becomes six. Two at lunchtime, two in the evening and a couple of glasses of wine....soon adds up. It's a bit like the smoker, 'I've given up, only the odd one here and there'.....and there and there.
In 2009, Stewart Lee in conversation with Armando Iannucci, suggested we are living in a post-Chilesean era. Lee went onto say that in the 2000 years before Chiles, there was a feeling that something wasn't right but it is right now. I'd like to echo that sentiment in this comment section.
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
What is the meaning of Chilesean please?
I vividly remember watching drinkers like me on KZread a few years back, Massively changed my views on drinking, and I’m Irish 😂
Resonates with me. I'm the same age as Adrian, Brummie by birth, but moved away when I was 8, returned on and off over the years. Drinking was (still is) part of my life ... for as long as I remember, really. Back in the 70's, you'd be out with your parents, at a pub and there'd be a garden for the kids to play in. It was totally normal to give the kids a half-pint of shandy or cider, with their packet of crisps. It was convenient for the parents, as the kids would just head off and run riot in the pub garden - that was my first experience with booze. We'd also raid the parents liquor cabinet - often, it was liquor cabinet slash record player or something - a space where the parents kept various bottles of booze for parties and what not. When I say "raid" - very infrequent, but a little sip of pernod or brandy or something. It wasn't a regular thing - it's not like my parents where heavy boozers - anything but - yet it was a normalised part of society back then. It wasn't even thought about as being odd - it's just ... what it was. Give the nipper a few sips of wine. Get the baby sleeping with a tiny little bit of whiskey - a thimble. Normalised. Totally normalised. But it never really became a problem and was probably completely harmless, until I hit my mid-teens. I was in a different country then, under different circumstances - but the exploration of "Getting pissed", really started when I was 15. Booze was readily available. There would be wine at the dinner table - not posh or anything - just wine there. I was allowed to have a glass. Behind the scenes, I was refilling the glass - from the the "good old" 5 litre "box wines" (this was in South Africa). The parents were getting drunk, relaxed, so if the teens seemed a little tipsy ... that was normal. What wasn't normal, was finding places to go and drink, before you were of "drinking age" - we'd hang out on the streets, when I was 15 or 16 and neck the cheapest booze we could appropriate. All manner of mayhem and "legends" would ensue - and that that age, there's never really a hangover, just a lot of vomit. As I grew older, to get to drinking age, the normalisation of the entire thing was never in question. We'd go clubbing and consume (amongst other things), ridiculously large quantities of booze. Stupid amounts. You learn the culture of it, you "learn" how to "handle" it - in reality, your poor bloody liver etc. is getting accustomed to it. You are gaining a "tolerance" And what of those legends? 90% were just ... awful really. "Remember when John fell in the duck pond and nearly drowned - hahahahahah" "Remember when we spend 30 minutes driving round and round the traffic island, hanging out the doors - hahahaha" Stupid. Nobody wants to recall in later years, when your body starts losing the ability to cope, those lost days of hangovers. Nobody wants to recall the awful anxiety that creeps in - the depression. But, because it's "normalised", you make excuses for that depression - and then the real problems start to happen. The jokey "hair of the dog". I recall in my late 20's, literally days of heavy boozing, until near madness ensues - you end up in a complete bender of a situation, which seems so much fun at the time. To get over a hangover, you have a big old fatty breakfast in the morning, then start boozing again just after lunch. Legendary? - heh, a legend in your own lunchtime.
@matthewtrow5698
Жыл бұрын
Hell, so many stories though - all true, all insane, all booze fuelled - so where do you draw that line? Fairly easy now I'm 54, they are all in the past, I don't drink nearly as much - but still go past the "recommended" intake. I no longer go nuts, go AWOL, but the habit lives on - and here it is, with me as the "keyboard warrior". But those stories! - And as Adrian says, quite rightly - how much of that was booze and how much was just that you were there with mates? No idea. I was in a band back in the early nineties. We gigged a fair bit. On the way to a gig, we played it sober, packed the gig van - a VW "combi" with an extended roof - as neatly as possible. For the gig, we'd be relatively sober - maybe a beer. After it - the rider! - or, really, spending all the money we had made (not much), on booze - and on our mates who came along "have a free drink or two!" The journey back home in that bus? - pissed. All the gear would be flung in the back, lots of chit chat, no bother what went where - just drunk and full of excitement. Even the bloody driver would be drunk - but not _as_ drunk. We'd head "back to base" in the van, with music blasting - and just go with the flow, 3am in the morning - back in those days, zero traffic on the road except us. So we'd "off-road", over traffic islands, huge bumps etc. sending everyone in the van flying - big laughs. My brother had a case of projectile vomit at one gig - which was nasty. The van was full of puke - just another story. After another gig, we got bought some chips from a late night fast food venue and for some reason, started throwing them at passing cars. Why? drunk. At a set of traffic lights, we were suddenly confronted by two VERY burly "locals", who, understandingly, weren't too keen on our actions. Queue a near fight, a broken windscreen, some broken bottles and us high-tailing it out of there muttering venom about "right wing nutters". Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Waking up in a ditch, covered in mud? Just another story. Stealing an entire table and chairs from a restaurant and "camouflaging" a mates car with branches we cut down from a tree? - Just another story. "Car surfing" at 5am in the morning, naked, on the roof of the car? Yep, just another one. Riding around my neighbourhood, also stark naked, pissed as a fart, on my motorbike? - another one. Mad Mad Mad times. Fun? I dunno. Stuff of "legend" - just lucky to get away with it ... but health wise, now, some 30 years later? That's a _different_ story.
This was simply sublime. Authentic. Perfectly paced. Like in a pub. Like a real friend talking to you. Bravo!
Thanks for the AA Gill book recommendation.
Proper throwback seeing Chiles again. Last time I saw him was on his last MOTD2. Glad to have stumbled across him again though, seems like a top bloke.
Adrian Chiles accidentally is the perfect man. He just makes sense.
Brilliant, honest interview. This channel keeps getting better and better.
The trouble with trying to moderate for people who have drank heavily for years is that they will always have cravings.. it’s like torturing yourself trying to only have one or two drinks in a night.. if you stop drinking altogether the cravings go away after a few weeks and your free.. it’s much easier
Very informative but lighthearted. Great video 👌
I love Adrian Chiles. Seems like such a good bloke
Respect to Chiles ! Such a good lad
Superb! A really interesting conversation. Another triumph for the channel.
I was just thinking about this. I like a bit of alcohol. But I only. Ever drink it when I’m out and with my mates. At home I don’t have any alcohol apart from those bottles of wine I got for Christmas.
The cleverest bloke in the pub
@ThisIsNotaUniversity
Жыл бұрын
but he's the only bloke there
@ReadySitGeek
Жыл бұрын
@@ThisIsNotaUniversity Think that was the joke.
Brilliant!
I can relate 100% with AC's views. I've been a lifelong drinker, whilst having a successful career and never letting it become a 'problem'. Although of course it is ultimately. I recently cut back because of fatty liver and I now drink less and have non-drinking days.
Bumped into Chiles in Scarborough in February and he interviewed me for a show he was filming. I ended up on the cutting-room floor but he was genuinely lovely to talk to.
Ironically this video came up as a recommendation, I will be six years sober in the morning, would be nice to have a drink to celebrate but could I stop at one or two? I'd tried doing that for 25 yrs but it didn't work..
Great bloke. Enough said.
I can certainly understand Adrian. If I had to watch football as part of my job I would drink myself into alcoholism. I suppose it is like the lady who works in a call-centre, drinking is the only way some people can forget their tedious jobs. At least in a call centre, there is likely to be occasional novel conversations, but every conversation about football in history has been exactly the same.
It's British society itself which is the issue really.
Cool !!!
44:00 this is gold
'Drinkers like me' really helped me when I started drinking too much after losing a very close family member. I still enjoy social events or some red wine on the weekend, but I'm no longer putting back a bottle a night.
He has a Cyril Regis hoodie on. Absolute legend. Great for Albion and CCFC. PUSB
What an enjoyable video to watch. We've just returned from Cork, Ireland where they have over 1,000 pubs. Perhaps high heating bills will create a revival of the somewhat dwindling British pub, I hope so.
His book is excellent
If I was in Birmingham, I'd drink too
@johnburrows3385
Жыл бұрын
On that basis, anyone who lives in Croydon would pickle themselves!
Top man is Adrian, reminds me of my boss haha
Talk tv advertised here. I wonder what Joe thinks of that... I let it run, so they have to pay him something, despite my revulsion.
Admitting you are a boozer can be creer suicide but AC has turned it into a poitive,very honest guy
Great conversation - more interesting than his tv show on the topic or book actually
I think that would be my favourite Pub too because of that waitress, Jesus.
29:40 ...it's after about the first 2 drinks that the effect peaks.
When the world is going to shit, we resort to art. I've not even got through the video's first advert yet.
we are living in a post chilesean world
Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant not a mood depressant. Big difference.
Chiles's problem is that even in his moderating stage, he's still allowing Alcohol to have a grip on his life. Having to count units religiously or wonder what days he should have a drink still shows a dependence issue, IMO.
@aaronhowardjudd
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I spent 3 years trying to moderate, counting units etc ... until I realised that booze was a poison and had zero benefits ... once you know the science and the reason why booze was introduced into society into the first place ... you realise we are being played... now, 6 years sober and never been happier
@sonnetinmybonnet5776
Жыл бұрын
@@aaronhowardjudd Quitting is by far the best option, I agree wholeheartedly.
@taybyers
7 ай бұрын
Well said. Early in my own recovery I was stunned to realize that those who can moderate don't try to do it, they just do it naturally. Speaking for myself, life became a lot easier and simpler when I just left it all behind.
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Exellent
I've not touched a drop for 18 days and been out running every day for nearly two weeks. The problem is, there's some social events where I know I'll be expected to drink and I know I'll be a lot more sociable if I have a few
Adrian needs to sit down and talk with Craig Beck
My mum had that situation with her doctor where they told her she had to stop drinking. She went cold turkey, 2 weeks later she had a stroke. I don't know that it's connected, but I would caution people to not make big shifts in their consumption without taking the time to make the transition bit by bit.
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
Im sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, it probably is... Alcohol thins the blood, it plays up with the natural thinning processes. Same thing happened to my Grandfather.
2:20 That was definitely not an accidental snub!
6:08 None of the things he listed were definitions of an alcoholic. They were stereotypes of an alcoholic. Addiction of any kind is simply defined: can you stop, and does it negatively affect your life (the second premise is to exclude things like water and nourishing food - however fat and carbohydrates can definitely be addictive despite being vital for health).
@popeye5989
Жыл бұрын
Yes AC makes that point in his book, he also points out that because of that stereotype allot of people deny that they have a problem because they don't fall into that stereotype.
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Is Adrian Benny Hill's son?? 🤣
@ryuhayabaker
Жыл бұрын
Benny Hill’s son being interviewed by Kenny Omega’s brother. 😉
@norman7527
Жыл бұрын
That really made me laugh, your absolutely right 😊
@jonhelmer8591
Жыл бұрын
Good call.
I’ve always thought I like a drink too much to develop a drink problem
I'd think with some people, drink is an addiction and those people are in the alcoholic group. With the rest of us, drink is a crutch. It's a short term boost to our mental health. We need it to feel good about ourselves . Its chasing that lovely feeling of drinking an good conversation . I find these days, I could survive with a few pints and then go non alcoholic for the rest of the night but it's hard to do that after uve had two pints. Non alcoholic drinks have improved massively which is probably the way to go.
@CapraDemon101
Жыл бұрын
Dude, if alcohol is a crutch, you're either an alcoholic or closer than you think.
It also has to be said, Adrian, that NEW things aren't always the best idea either, old chap! There's such a thing as throwing the baby out with the bathwater (and we've 'always' done that, too!) :P Vegan is very much in the 'wait and see' category, both scientifically and nutritionally. And the longest-living people in the world have regular alcohol and animal proteins as essentials in their diet (Okinawa, Japan, and Italy/France). That's just a fact.
How does someone get to valhalla, If they don't drink into Oblivion?
Adrian looks much healthier for having started drinking less
GET THIS MAN FRONTING BT SPORT
Adrian seems in a constant state of tired confusion
Why can't men sit down to pee, to avoid splashing? Great chat, neat fella, WELL worth listening to.
@Ben-ej1xp
Жыл бұрын
To save time. If we sit we have to stay parked for 20-30mins. Darwin wrote about it.
@RM-ti8nf
Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-ej1xp so it's biologically impossible? I'll look into that sometime.
@RM-ti8nf
Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-ej1xp I can't find anything specific to Darwin, so I'll assume it's got to do with being ready to mobilize for whatever danger. Interestingly, I did find that it's healthier for men to sit, as sitting allows fuller emptying of bladder, especially if there are prostrate issues. I'll be using that bit of info against the tradition which I actually suspect has more to do with some "manliness" hang up- not wanting to be anything associated with being girlie. Girls being second class/weaker etc.
@nez9751
Жыл бұрын
My wife told me off today as she caught me having a stand up wee. She thinks I sit all the time. It’s my little secret.
I'm only a little way in (9.50), but please, you should have made the point that an alcoholic should not stop drinking cold turkey style, it is life threatening to do this for some people...i came down so bad one time i was watching the television for 2 days and it wasn't even on, it was like i was watching silent black and white films ?...still can't get my head around what happened
I drink too much, have for the last few years, a chiles programme changed the way I think about it. I’ve had most things to excess in my life at some point, I could still get access to drugs when’re I want it but haven’t done any of that for years. And don’t want to. Alcohol is just the last on the list that I need to box off. Before it boxes me off. 😮
0:17 we do eat them though
AC is a really bright guy, but appears never to have heard of the phrase 'functioning alcoholic.' Booze is fine if you have a Stop Button, which most people have when they start drinking. Some people can't stop and for them, whether they're performing at their job or not, booze is a really bad idea.
The “cheers” blanking though 😕
@patrickgray6571
6 ай бұрын
I have listened to both...both make excellent cases...it boils down to the individual and how he/she copes with it...
Adrian is way too nice to Steve Bruce.
Hi. Can you tell us all when matchbox football, rugby or even matchbox cricket were invented? The last of this trio is obvious, but can you explain the rules please!
NEVER drink to quench thirst , man up and don't drink two days a week and always only drink if you're actually enjoying it.
There are no benefits to drinking alcohol. If anyone thinks there is, then they are not facing themself.
2:20 - Watch a man die inside.
"I want to talk about vegetarianism" - the opening words to any conversation with a vegetarian.
Kevin Turvey's let himself go
Errrm why did I watch any of this? A TV presenter talking about warped/potentially denial, opinions on addiction. Is this JoePub channel??
Wow there is still a pub that has not closed down yet
I'd rather be 'down a coal mine with Ted Bundy'
@vincentblack7467
Жыл бұрын
So you are not keen on him then.
Commendably honest. Not the brightest tool in the box. Not ageing well. The drink has slowed him down. In all his talk about alcohol, he ducks the key subject of his depression and its causes.
Adrian Chiles is the hero we need, but not the hero we deserve.
Loves to name drop doesn’t he, “ this Judge”, “ this MP”, “ Roy Keane”, “ this writer Mauris Abate”
the alcohol industry has done suuuuch a good job of indoctrinating even the most seemingly intelligent
36:43: He's completely right. It's hilarious when people claim we have to eat meat because it's something that humans have done for millions of years.
Knob height..😂
You can see the old booze has got hold of him its a shame
😢
Adrian looks a wreck
Preaching no alcohol no meat 3k views no wonder there's only 145 likes 😎
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
I think its more to do with a lot people thinking hes a bit of a pillock myself. I certainly wouldnt of clicked on an Adrian Chiles interview, but the auto play fed it to me... This issue is very important. regardless of our approval of Chiles.
@maggiefelton9848
Жыл бұрын
@@timsearle5837 I love Adrian Chiles, remember years back presenting Working Lunch on BBC 2 very unusual to have a Brummie on TV in those days. Followed his career ever since. Not a pillock , ta very much
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
@@maggiefelton9848 Yes he is. This is a pointless argument eh? you feel attacked because someone doesnt share the same views as you. ridiculous. Lets just leave it here yeah?
Il listen too an opinion if its too do with my country or its economy but listening too some wally talking about football and drinking at this time is madness absolute madness 😉
Thought it would be politics, seems to be about soccer-ball, oh well.
@davidsmith5523
Жыл бұрын
It's not.
What's the relevance of this guy??
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
He's a famous daytime television presenter in the UK.
He's a functioning alcoholic and he's still in denial, he still thinks he's got his drinking "under control".
Bad form ordering the Guinness. Like waving a BigMac in front of a famine victim.
I think Adrian drinks because he's bored.
Why do they put the microphone so close to the throat, you can hear every gulp and smacking of the lips. Horrible
Interesting!
A lot of closet alcoholics in this comments section who are saying they enjoy a drink but aren't alcoholics, my friends and family say the same and by definition they are all alcoholics but don't seem to think they are.
Ok Adrian, so the doctrines of Original Sin, Purgatory, and Virgin Birth and Resurrection are not extreme? Get a grip mate.
I really like him but Christ on his drinking he's the sober equivalent of the boring drunk.
Chiles is hardly an example of disciplinary drinking!
@popeye5989
Жыл бұрын
I don't think he is trying to be, he is just telling his personal story of walking up to a problem and cutting down
😂😂😂. That Guinness is so baddd!! Brutal dome. Brutal shtick. Brutal head. Fucking hell!! 😂😂. You don’t drink Guinness like that. My head hurts watching this! And then you throw in Chiles’ self aggrandising liberalism. Jesus man.
Most of the world is still doing those things ... Dont be so racist.
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
Oh sit down. Its not racist to have a set of morals or the change your mind on something lifestyle related. Ridiculous statement,.
i know Adrian is on alcohol-free, but he still seems a bit drunk, mayb the psycho-somatic alc free, is having an effect. just a little naughty obs.
shame he's been led to believe in the nonsense of psychiatry
@timcomley5948
Жыл бұрын
Because you’d know 😉
Bit harsh to take an alky down the pub!?
@timcomley5948
Жыл бұрын
Or a simpleton into a chat room
The dumbest thing he said was that he didn't get hangovers. Just because he's oblivious doesn't mean the alcohol isn't being processed by his liver. Drink doesn't ruin lives, hangovers ruin lives. If you drink every day then every morning is spent feeling rough. Alcohol is a depressant, not when you're drinking but after.
@0wls2k
Жыл бұрын
He said he doesn't feel the hangover, not that they don't exist or there aren't negative effects on alcohol on his and everyone else's body.
@timsearle5837
Жыл бұрын
Drink doesnt ruin lives? It just the hangover yeah? So, when I was a child and my dad came in pissed, kicked my toys around the room, abused my mother, and then threatened to set fire to my bed, that was a hangover? Wtf r u talking about? I think this is the "dumbest" thing i have heard in a long while.
@TheWeightliftingTriathlete
Жыл бұрын
That is just not true. I don't get hangovers either. Of course there is physical affects but I don't feel them, no sickness, no headaches, etc. I believe that is what Adrian was saying