Down The 'Grave Robbing For Morons' Rabbit Hole
Ever since the late 90's tape the underground vhs trading scene has been circulating a tape that seems to show an individual giving a tutorial on how to rob graves and sell the bodies on the black market for profit.
Despite wide circulation, almost nothing is known about the tape leading to the legend of "Anthony" the internet's favorite grave robber.
In this video we explore the origins of this tape as well as some new information and explore the broader world of body snatching for profit.
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Oh hey it’s me, feel free to reach out and find out the real information about Jeremy Lee Pauley (my SO) it’s way more interesting than the media is making it sounds and would make a good video for you ✌🏻 - Sophie Mae vee
@SlightlySociable
2 ай бұрын
From what I understand his previous wife or girlfriend was the one who tipped off authorities and he was also trying to set up an marketplace which allowed people to sell oddities outside the reach of Facebook. I would gladly review any new info if there's something there but understand I'm very skeptical. I've reviewed the court docs it looks pretty bad. Although he was the furthest removed in the Harvard situation
@prodbytarantino
2 ай бұрын
Pin of shame
@sophieblah4923
2 ай бұрын
@@SlightlySociablethe media only posted what was released publically, there is a LOT that has yet to become public information. For one his ex wife was making the human skin bracelets and called the authorities claiming she knew nothing about his work (which is as a licensed restorative museum), the only involvement he has with Harvard was a woman who was stealing sold him (and many others not listed yet) these items under false pretenses, you’ll notice his name is in every single article but the deeper you dive you’ll notice the informations gets more and more skewed, the tattoos sadly have everything to do with it. Once the federal case is finished I will be speaking publicly on everything, you’ll also notice his ex wife is slandering him to no end during the time the criminal case is going knowing he can’t all about it - attempting to distance herself. Jeremy was a 3rd party, unknown buyer, much like a ton of other people the feds haven’t indicted yet, he simply didn’t know where things were coming from. Which is why most the charges were dropped. I have a books worth of folders piling up that I’m happy to discuss with you, unlike everyone else hiding from the case, Jeremy has nothing to hide
@sophieblah4923
2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the typos, I have terrible dyslexia
@sophieblah4923
2 ай бұрын
@@SlightlySociable for context there are quite literally 2.5 million (and counting) pages of information the public has yet to see To add to this, I am completely on the side of unregulated human remain sales being addressed and laws being enforced to protect donated remains, we are currently working with authorities to push for these laws. That is why we are so public through all this with what is happening, there is an incredibly dark side to medical antiques, and as I told Philadelphia times, this has been the best thing to happen to the “oddity” community, otherwise those stealing donated remains would still be doing it. Despite my frustration over the media targeting Jeremy, it has helped put focus on some serious issues happening (Facebook is the tip of this iceberg)
10:30 I dont want to be controversial, but in my opinion, illegally collecting and exporting 1500 child skeletons is simply too many.
@CaraCreations1000
2 ай бұрын
what would you say is the limit?
@do3807
2 ай бұрын
Really going out on a limb there
@jerepulli443
2 ай бұрын
I believe the limit is about 1499 more than that, it's simply too many and quite frankly little immoral
@do3807
2 ай бұрын
@@jerepulli443 heh, little... 😔
@Luka116_
2 ай бұрын
@@do3807 indeed, brave statements only
"You can't leave witnesses" he says, filming himself with his face completely visible and giving his associates' nicknames as well as revealing his future plans.
@BiggDaddysCheese
2 ай бұрын
Yeah people are really dumb to think this is real
@imshid
2 ай бұрын
@@BiggDaddysCheese bro knows it all
@BiggDaddysCheese
2 ай бұрын
@@imshid I have this awesome time share and MLM for sale for anyone who believes this guy was a real grave robber
@ErebuBat
2 ай бұрын
To be fair…. That really didn’t have an impact. We have no idea who he is 🤷
@aarondavis8943
2 ай бұрын
@@BiggDaddysCheese I don't think they're dumb but it doesn't make much sense for this to be real. Police would investigate and the mainstream media would definitely report this if it were true. This is a news program's wet dream. I imagine youtube would take the video down if it were genuine.
Lil bro finally remembered his password
@redfalcons1325
2 ай бұрын
lol
@HorrorsofCody
2 ай бұрын
"lil bro" when you're waiting on him to drop something
@geeloco1600
2 ай бұрын
You live a sad life kiddo, grow up a bit
@rman229
2 ай бұрын
@@HorrorsofCodyBalding
@Slop_Dogg
2 ай бұрын
@@rman229Diarrhea
honestly the guy in the video really gives off the like “nerdy side of punk” vibes that would make him having filmmaking (and especially horror filmmaking) as a hobby in addition to real grave robbing/body snatching seem pretty damn plausible to me. i’m leaning towards the side of it being real overall, but embellished and a bit designed to make him look cooler and edgier than he might actually have been
@RR-kp5ps
2 ай бұрын
He gives me "Columbine shooter" vibes. An unpopular nerd at school who actually is a murderous psychopath.
@casteanpreswyn7528
2 ай бұрын
@@RR-kp5ps no, he gives off "film student making an edgy joke" vibe. Reminds me heavily of the early days of internet videos.
@Putsmeiser
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, plus he also comes off overly expressive with his facial expressions and gestures which is a sign of bad acting. My first impression is that this guy was an amature filmmaker. Not sure how everyone is so convinced its real.
@alexandralamberton5615
2 ай бұрын
@@Putsmeiser especially considering how surprisingly accessible human skulls are
@casteanpreswyn7528
2 ай бұрын
@@alexandralamberton5615 and the whole thing looks like it was shot in a college classroom.
"The trade is alive and well, unlike the people being sold" I was dying after hearing this, not unlike the people being sold were. 💀💀💀
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
Unexpected mic drop moment
@Em22-wtf
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I honestly don't even think the people being used for notebook covers.... Would care. My mom and dad both said WHO gives a sht, at least my remains are being used for something useful lol! I agreed. Actually, my parents want cremation. I find Californias new law saying HUMAN REMAINS can be used for COMPOST 😳.... I find that FARRRR more offensive than someone using my skin for a bracelet or bones for a sculpture. I'd prefer the latter tbh
@ShihammeDarc
Ай бұрын
@@Em22-wtf it's not a matter of if they'd care or not, it's a matter of consent And you are unfamiliar with a lot of the world if you think most people won't care.
@Em22-wtf
Ай бұрын
@@ShihammeDarcthey don't care, trust me, they won't even know. California will soon be using human remains as Compost. I'd rather be worn as a bracelet than have my remains left to rot and then raked around in the dirt..... And to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't notice either way and neither will they, lol
@jacquiecotillard9699
Ай бұрын
“Quit busting my balls, alright? Just like these fetuses, I was not born yesterday.”
Ladies he’s a 10 but he has a wallet made of human skin
@_letstartariot
2 ай бұрын
Well then that’s a 12/10 for sure. A keeper.
@kathrineici9811
2 ай бұрын
He’s a zero and I’m calling the popo
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
2 ай бұрын
Don’t short-change him.. You forgot the stutter, gap-tooth, and numerous facial wounds/sores in various states of healing
@dbonechis
2 ай бұрын
@@kathrineici9811 that's how you end up as his lampshade
@Kujien
2 ай бұрын
She was excited when he told her she could hold all his money, not knowing she would become a wallet. :P
Ah, yes. 51 minute “impromptu video”. We missed you.
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd
Ай бұрын
A few
This does offer a solution to all those “people waking from a dream about a cemetery, in a cemetery, with head injuries” cold cases
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
There are so many of us
@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
2 ай бұрын
@@CantTellYouYou've had that dream too !? And then I woke up in the graveyard. It was wild, yo.
@chilibeer3912
Ай бұрын
Finally justice
@jarettcroisetiere8697
Ай бұрын
Has anyone covered this? Can't find much info.
So, yes, Jeremy Lee Pauley looks exactly like you think a man who makes leather from human skin would.
@someshittomakeyouhappy
2 ай бұрын
with a Wednesday addams lookalike 👀 gf/wife too 😂😭
@kenw2225
2 ай бұрын
Bro came to the video to discuss lol. Wild
@joniroxanne96
2 ай бұрын
On his way out of hell, he got a half of his face scorched. 😒
@Thirtyfivepercentferal
2 ай бұрын
You can tell he's guilty just by looking at him. I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney.
@herpaderp-bp4pe
2 ай бұрын
Don't judge a book by it's cover is the saying we were ALWAYS taught as children. Yet here I am, judging a book by it's cover because sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Instinctively, some of us can spot evil. When I look at Jeremy I instantly feel uncomfortable and terrified.
There are lot of old edgy 80s/90s underground vhs tapes that went circulating/floating around during that era, and most of them are completely lost to time. So the fact we can still even see this tape is pretty fascinating, clearly it must've been intriguing enough for people to keep spreading for years, until the internet took full force. I've always thought it was real, this kids level of detail is unmistakable, but as young people often do, I think there are details he was exaggerating/making up to seem more badass
@tahneeyuh3382
Ай бұрын
People who’ve always had social media can’t even fathom what it was like. Yes he used names and stuff but it was completely normal to make a tape and it never “got out of hand” because it was passed only to those whom you expected to see it! Social media and something going viral wasn’t even a thought. Without the threat of that, these tapes were really common in underground groups! I’m glad you mentioned it too that most were lost to time
@Mere-Lachaiselongue
32 секунд бұрын
This has already been debunked by Scaretheater like 6 years ago.
Aint no way that he's back. You guys have to cherish it before our favourite youtuber disappears for another 8 months 😂😢
@geeloco1600
2 ай бұрын
You live a sad sad life kiddo
@logistaur
2 ай бұрын
@geeloco1600 you're the sad sad one here obviously lacking any reading or sarcasm comprehension, he's gonna "disappear for a while" to work on another bomber video, get a life lil hater.
@BreadLord562
2 ай бұрын
@@geeloco1600you took the time of day to respond to someone having a good time with a shithead remark so you’re definitely among the ppl living sad lives
@Nunya111
2 ай бұрын
@@geeloco1600because he’s a big fan of this dudes content and wants more? Thats just how ppl are lol it’s true for sports fans, people who prefer summer over winter and tv show fans alike lmao calm down
@weirdshitcoolideas
2 ай бұрын
@@geeloco1600you live a sad life for seeking comments like this and commenting in general. Weirdo
KZread essayist don’t say “at the end of the day” challenge
@SlightlySociable
2 ай бұрын
impossible
@jamesknapp64
2 ай бұрын
@@SlightlySociable you mean: "at the end of day its impossible"
@aarondavis8943
2 ай бұрын
@@SlightlySociable If you want to sound smart, say: "In the final analysis..." or, a bit less pompous: "In any event..." or, "in summation". At the end of the day is for dumb dumbs.
@rikovladimir8655
2 ай бұрын
Or the so infuriating "you see.."
@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
2 ай бұрын
@@rikovladimir8655Yes, I do see. Why do you ask ?
(Firstly, ignore possible errors in my English). In Brazil we have a very grotesque case, well hushed up by the media and the national state, regarding the negotiation of organs from a boy who was still alive. There was a big scheme (with evidence and defendants) where patients were neglected/intentionally killed for organ trafficking. In the end, the boy ended up passing away, his father is still in court to this day trying to bring those responsible to the appropriate punishments, despite a great persecution against him from the government and the mainstream media ignores the scandal. The case happened in the early 2000s, and the boy's name is Paulo Pavese. I believe this is a big rabbit hole and could be covered in a future video.
@alphooey
2 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say that (Firstly, ignore possible errors in my English) then posts in university level English. Your English is better than most native speakers.
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
@@alphooey “lol srsly frfr thats what ah wuz thinkin” -Most of us.
@jessylittlebunny
2 ай бұрын
Esse caso é muito triste :(
@alphooey
2 ай бұрын
just re read this: a) that story is absolutely horrific and really does need to be more widely known. b) your English is brilliant
@the_hanged_clown
Ай бұрын
I find myself wholly unable to "ignore any possible errors in your english", as no matter how much I scour your remarks, I cannot find any errors!
The Horror FX magazine really makes me feel like he read a tutorial on realistic skull aging and wanted to improv a skit around his new prop.
@zedev444
2 ай бұрын
it would actually be worth checking what that issue contained
@branovices
2 ай бұрын
It's unlikely that you would make the skull of an elderly woman, not to mention the dental work on the skull and included perfectly fitted dentures.
@syd5380
2 ай бұрын
@@branovicesYeah that's what makes this explanation seem unlikely to me. Obviously those details make it even more realistic, but if it were a movie prop you likely wouldn't spend time adding them. Especially since the horror movies coming out around when this video was made weren't really going for realism (for the most part)
@thegreatgonzales6813
2 ай бұрын
@@syd5380 Tell that to Poltergeist which used real human remains for one of its scenes.
@medes5597
22 күн бұрын
@@thegreatgonzales6813they used former medical skeletons which were owned by universal and are literally in hundreds, if not *thousands* of movies. It just got added onto the nonsense "poltergeist curse" I would guess every historic studio owns a bunch of medical skeletons.
Alright, here are my expert tips for robbing graves: 1. Make sure to create documented video evidence of yourself discussing all the grave-robbing you're doing where your face is completely visible and you identify yourself and all your accomplices by name. 2. You should probably wear gloves, I guess?
@LouiesLog
2 ай бұрын
You forgot a bring a spade! (engraved with your home address just in case you loose)
@fjrevoredo
2 ай бұрын
well, 40 years later nobody ever found who he was, so we could at least give him some credit for that.
@herpaderp-bp4pe
2 ай бұрын
@@fjrevoredo ha haha exactly. He showed his face, spoke his stutter, ratted out his whole crew. And yet still to this day no one who's who he is!
@greablood1072
2 ай бұрын
And no witnesses, that one's important
@JimTheCurator
2 ай бұрын
And, of course, bring a sweater (those graveyards get chilly at night, and you don't want to catch a cold)
I hate those pre court “interviews”. They purposely ask damning questions that make them look bad while knowing that they cant speak about an ongoing case.
@whiteoutgotu
Ай бұрын
Matt gets it. I get enraged when reporters ask those same questions in that same I-Know--You're-Not-Gonna-Answer-This-But-This-Is-What-We-Do tone during damn near every perp walk. One out of twenty people might say something in that situation. Might. Has anyone every said anything valuable? Doubt it. Its so cringe and it needs to stop.
@diy_mushroomguy
Ай бұрын
@@whiteoutgotuwell it shouldn't take a genius to know that. We should work on that problem.
@icedo1013
25 күн бұрын
The product of these interviews is the solidification of the public's contempt for the criminal. Not answering "do you have anything to say to the families?" is interpreted as the desire to say nothing, enhancing the idea that there is no feeling of remorse or guilt. It either helps secure a conviction, or it illicits information unavailable to prosecutors anywhere else.
I used to be in the deceased body removal business. I heard of funeral homes getting broken into for various reasons, but never grave robbing like this. The replacement of donated or missing bones pvc pipe is a common replacement, especially if the person lost their life in a traumatic way and lost a limb.
@realinus
2 ай бұрын
Source?
@Weeb_Destroyer
2 ай бұрын
@@realinus”trust me bro”
@kenw2225
2 ай бұрын
No, seriously, trust me bro. Pvc pipe looks like a bone. Can't tell the difference
@KorLord
2 ай бұрын
There was a trafficked with mariana van zeller on human remains where they talk about this. Crazy the kind of stuff that goes on with the deceased.
@MaliciousSRT
2 ай бұрын
@@realinus Any funeral home that does an open casket for a bad accident victim
There are still lost shockumentaries made by local vhs producers during this era, like "The Underbelly of America", this clip was probably made for one as an interlude skit.
@Godsservant778
2 ай бұрын
The skull being presented in the footage is a real one though, so I don't think it's a skit or a fake.
@hyperion3145
2 ай бұрын
@@Godsservant778 It could be that they borrowed a real skull for a skit, or a very well done fake. I wouldn't be surprised if they found an exposed grave and made it a skit, people have done worse for skits
@Godsservant778
2 ай бұрын
@@hyperion3145 could be, but it's not that far fetched to consider it real either as has been pointed out in the video, we will probably never know truly unless some new information gets unearthed (pun unintended)
@xxepic_swag_gamingxx5238
2 ай бұрын
What’s “The Underbelly of America”? Quick google skim didn’t give any interesting results.
@BiggDaddysCheese
2 ай бұрын
The second the guy started talking you can tell this isn't real
If anything, the presence of the tripod and the special effects magazine (which included its own "How To" chapter) could mean that the skull was real and possibly have been used in a homemade horror movie. They took the skull "for fun" and decided to use it in a movie? I truly believe the video was shot in the early 90's. Right down to his peg-legged jeans!
My great uncle's body was donated. I really hate thinking about it and where he ended up. He was fiercely anti-war so the thought of him ending up in the DoD's hands is sickening.
@TitaniumTurbine
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m in the same boat with a much closer relative. The thought sucks.
@larsonfamilyhouse
2 ай бұрын
Usually you get them back after a year or so
@icedo1013
25 күн бұрын
I suppose I got a little bit lucky, or at least I choose to believe as much in lieu of exculpatory evidence one way or the other. My grandpa was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer in December '00 and managed to beat the odds for 20 more years with an experimental trial (from which he was the only survivor) and several surgeries/procedures along the way. His body was donated to a local college for graduate dissection projects and has since been cremated and returned to us. My point in all this is that, in the memorial service dedicated to all the donors of that period, one of the students gave a small speech about her experience with the project and her gratefulness to those who donated, and in her description of the nature of her experience I was 99% convinced that she was describing my grandfather. I can never be sure of this, of course, but it seems to me that his body was truly used for its intended purpose.
@keithbarker1934
13 күн бұрын
@@icedo1013Doubt it. I worked at an anatomy class once. It’s just a bunch of jokes about bags of meat. There’s no identifying information other than age, race, occupation, and cause of death. It’s human jerky. There’s absolutely no emotional connection. Probably just embellishing for a good grade.
And to think, my family called me "crazy" after I suggested having grandma buried in the backyard.... Who's crazy now?
@geoffhoutman1557
Ай бұрын
Actual lol
@robertkrout3916
22 күн бұрын
You also don't have to pay property tax if you bury a family member on your property
So I'm going to go out on a limb here, but if the title of the video was named by the kids who made the actual video the title alone would put the date of the video after 1991. The reason why I say this is the whole "for dummies" series of books were first made in 1991 with DOS for Dummies, but the books as a whole didn't really hit mainstream popularity till "Windows for Dummies" hit the mainstream in 1992 and would go on to sell over 15 million copies. Now, it's possible the person who named it "Grave Robbing for Morons" probably did so shortly after taking the VHS and digitizing it, but the title seems to indicate maybe this didn't happen till around the mid 90s if I had to guess. Anyway, I'm not saying that the title having "for Morons" in it means this particular video had to have been early 90s, but based on the popularity of the Dummies books and that title, I am guessing this probably means it was originally digitized no later than the late 90s. Just wanted to mention two other things that might help... It's possible it was first spread through BBS, in fact. I know several of the old BBS's that I would visit back in the early to mid 90s had some crazy stuff on them, not just pirated games and porn, but some even had sections of the sites for VIPs that had some of the weirder things or the macabre. I remember one BBS in the Midwest had things like digitized versions of the original Faces of Death and Traces of Death series, supposed snuff films (these were always fake), bestiality, swingers videos, and other movies or videos that were banned or that you just couldn't rent in the 80 and 90s. There was a trend of people making fake videos to get access on these sorts of networks as VIPs just to get access to the porn parts of the BBS. Given the fact that a lot of the films on these BBS were fake, I could see something like this being fake, too. This video could very much have an origin from one of these 90s BBS networks, but you'd have to find sysops from the East Coast if you wanted to continue the investigation further. Also, some college networks back in the mid to late 90s had students coming in with their computers that could share stuff for free and you could go around snooping on people's shared drives on their computers for stuff, some of them even had people who set up indexers to search all these devices for stuff and would link it. It's possible this is the kind of video that would have circulated maybe on one of those East Coast college networks back in the mid to late 90s, too. Again, I'm not saying it's not real, but if it is, it must be like the 1% of the videos from the mid to late 90s that actually were real. :/
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t mean much to most, but I’m so fascinated by these stories of the early internet because I was too young to really make full use of it. I’d love to see somebody contact Simon Predj, the KZread uploader, to ask where he got the footage from - was it an old BBS? was it off of one these comp VHS or a solo VHS from a trader? - and then follow that lead as far as it will go.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
2 ай бұрын
Filming a fake snuff just to access porn is wild.
@herpaderp-bp4pe
Ай бұрын
@@CantTellYou I asked Simon where he got it and he said he got it from the ensuring your place in hell compilation. But apparently he's heard from sources that the original creator sold it years ago to a porn producer back in the mid to late 90s. And from there on, it was just passed around the underground rare VHS/oddities community. Even he has no clue where it came from sadly. And also, he doesn't know if it's real or fake. I wish there was a way we could figure out what porn producer Anthony originally sold it to and trace it back that way. Otherwise, there's no way of finding a trail because this happened so long ago. I just feel like if the film was fake or staged in any way, the guys involved (Anthony or Gino, even taco or pucci who were mentioned towards the end of the video) would have come forward to claim ownership and to get their rights for profits. But out of the four men involved, none have done so. Which tells me that the video is probably real and they are embarrassed by it and don't want to be associated with it out of fear of being doxxed or arrested. I don't think they would even get in trouble though. The grave robbery happened so long ago so the statue of limitations should be up by now on that crime. Unless Anthony is deceased or in an even weirder twist, what if both men are deceased or they are in prison for another crime and have no idea their old video is internet famous?? The whole situation is so intriguing to me. I love the mystery.
@suddenwall
17 күн бұрын
100% agree. I picked up on the "for dummies" allusion and mentioned it in my other comment. other signs pointing to the 90s: -fast, accurate autofocus on a camcorder that a kid could afford -it's easy for the cameraman to turn the camera 180, suggesting strongly this is not a bulky shoulder mounted VHS camcorder, but a slimmer video 8 or hi-8 90s type -The fade-ins and fade-outs suggest that this was edited in post. Early video editing hardware like the Video Toaster didn't really appear for consumers until the very late '80s and early 90s and were quite expensive. It was possible to edit on a computer in the early 90s but the resolution would be visibly low and digitized and the setup would've been prohibitively expensive for most people. Buying enough RAM to even run video editing software xost a fortune, and the kits even came with a clamshell VHS tape teaching you how to install it.
I hope you are fine and this is a comeback. We've missed you man.
I have a cadaver bone in my shoulder I asked before the surgery and they said they couldn't tell who's bone it was. After learning about grave robbing and body snatching really makes me wonder where and who's bone do I have in my body...
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
You could be walking around everyday with 1/100th of Abe Lincoln in ya
@neo4552
Ай бұрын
Try a DNA test
@Iron-Bridge
Ай бұрын
Guess you've got a ' bone to pick' huh 🤣
@Duderino420
Ай бұрын
@@Iron-Bridge to say the least
Imagine getting an allograft of unknown origin and walking around with the knowledge that you have parts inside you that might've been stolen. New fear unlocked.
@DinoCism
2 ай бұрын
Capitalism doesn't just stop at what most people consider "sacred." It commodifies and puts a price on everything.
@AbsolXGuardian
2 ай бұрын
Finding that out would feel very complicated, because if it hadn't happened you would still be suffering or have had to pay even more for a more limited demand. It's easy to hate the people making a profit on it, but with people dying every day from lack of organ transplants, who knows what the situation would be without the red market? It's not the vague benefits of research or training, it's the one to one improvement of life. It's like if the only options were obscene pharmaceutical profits or not allowing medical manufacturing to cover it's costs. If there was a tissue graph that would heal my fibromyalgia and there either wasn't any available or I couldn't afford it, it would be hard for me not to justify stealing it. Oh your idea of your dead loved one being whole is more important than my ability to live pain free without fatigue? Ok, maybe I'd just stand in front of a funeral home and emotionally guilt trip people.
@kanna-san.
2 ай бұрын
@@DinoCismcapitalism could be under your bed right now.
The Smithsonian has a masterclass on bodysnatching and graverobbing. Some Indigenous people have literally seen their dead relatives displayed at museums.
@EmeraldLavigne
29 күн бұрын
That law outlawing the remains of Natives at the federal level? It has a carve-out specifically exemption the Smithsonian from it. It's kinda gross. Miniminuteman mentions it in passing in a recent video.
@roleat
22 күн бұрын
Highly doubt it.
@oup6009
22 күн бұрын
@@roleat What? this is a fact lol
@TheDsRequiem
11 күн бұрын
Hahahahs nobody asked
im going to have my casket be iron and welded shut so i don't get turned into a wallet
@pfadiva
2 ай бұрын
Better make sure your funeral home is reputable, too. Things go missing between being declared dead and being embalmed.
@MmMm-yd4rn
2 ай бұрын
Sounds to me like Viking funerals need to make a comeback And now I remembered a comment on other video about a school teacher that was obsessed with ecoburials and later casually drops he was making his bros chuck the body to the sharks😂
@baddudecornpop7328
2 ай бұрын
Gonna have mine booby-trapped with a 'nade. Ain't no way I'm winding up as some juggalo's ccringy bracelet or wallet.
No more hiatuses 😤 you better stay from here on out (fr though, good to see you back)
I live near Houdini's grave. The cemetery is incredibly neglected, but there are new burials going in every time I walk through. The New York Zodiac used to hunt in the same cemeteries.
holy shit, he's alive edit: just wanted to say, man, you're my absolute favorite "spooky"/mystery guy on youtube. it's always an absolute treat when you upload.
OMG, first Jorge uploads and now our friend Slightly Sociable has returned also!
@rhedosaurus2251
2 ай бұрын
We're all eating like Roman Emperors today.
@jk-gb4et
2 ай бұрын
Who’s Jorge?
@HorrorsofCody
2 ай бұрын
I said the same 😭
@HorrorsofCody
2 ай бұрын
@@jk-gb4etblameitonjorge duh
@harrynelson9203
2 ай бұрын
@@jk-gb4etblameitonjorge 👌🏻🤌🏻 make sure you have plenty of pop corn ready
"If the business side of this will ever give this a rest to those in pieces" is actually a BAR
I admire how your videos shed fresh light on these topics, uncovering new insights instead of merely echoing pre-existing knowledge on the topic. As far as I'm aware, you truly embody the essence of investigative journalism.
I went through this whole video thinking I was watching & listening to Slightly Sociable, only to be shocked by the twist at the end.
no way he’s back
Genuinely excited for new content from you.
I will forever be a Barely(Slightly) Sociable fanboy 🤷🏻♂️🤘
@TheAntlionGuard
2 ай бұрын
A little bit sociable as a treat
@SirGoose64
2 ай бұрын
We do a miniscule amount of socializing
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
Still waiting for his third channel Extremely Sociable to pop up where he just goes to a lot of parties and IRL streams 24/7
Glad to see a new upload! 50 MINUTES! This was very interesting and intriguing.
Dude your dedication to research blows my mind. I’ve never seen anything like it and I can’t get enough! Don’t ever change!
We missed you! Glad you're back! Much love
i was rewatching your videos yesterday being like 'i wonder where he went' 😭 guess i had a gut feeling
Oh yesssssss!!!! So good to see you!! Thank you for the content!
“Leave no witnesses” * proceeds to make an instructional “how to” while confessing to doing said crime not once, but twice* Yeah… not buying it. This guy has managed to basically shit post and troll people in vhs form further back than Spielberg directed Jurassic Park. I assume you’ll get to “ensuring your place in hell”. I’ve spent some time on this too and it’s hard to ignore it feels like an early creepy anthology piece of content. But the last thing I see is genuine footage of a proper body snatching tutorial haha
@lucietigger1641
Ай бұрын
If it were real, how far would the psychopathy go of the character 'Anthony' ? Putting my horror film storytime hat on - so 'Anthony' gets a kick out of saying into a camera on record about not leaving witnesses while he has people witnessing his words. They're too dumb or trusting or naive and so he ends up killing them then processing the bodies thru his trade. After not getting caught for grave robbing or murder of his friends/associates....his ego takes a bashing. SO he feeds the VHS tape out onto the dodgy bootleg video market. The he sits back and revels in his infamy. Later in life it hits the internet and now he's old enough to high likely not get recognised so he sits back again and feeds his ego as people are either disturbed or amazed that we don't know anything about him.
The sign Anthony flashes at the end, is called the "shaka" in Hawaii. He does it like a local (tourists, especially in the 90s, did a weird wiggly version), but he doesn't have too much of a pidgin accent, so he might have ties to Hawaii. Either a fresh transplant, or someone who left the islands young, os if close friends with someone from the area. His unusual speech impediment and broken nose are so distinctive, it's difficult to believe that no one recognizes this guy.
@aces553
24 күн бұрын
He was in NYC.
@moscuadelendaest
22 күн бұрын
it's not unusual. it's stutter
@VoltasP
22 күн бұрын
@@aces553 He has ties to Hawaii, I guarantee it.
Thank you for the new upload! ❤
I once met a man named Robert Graves. A strange fellow, indeed he was.
@moscuadelendaest
22 күн бұрын
I've met him too but I'm pretty sure his name was Robin. Robin Graves.
@regzzuse280
21 күн бұрын
You ever met Hugh Mungus?
Missed your content so much, man. Thanks for the new video!! ❤
personally I believe grave-robbing for morons might be an analogy to the sketchy industry as it was essentially a corpse that people commercialized and now we don't know anything about the original source of the 'corpse' called grave-robbing for morons.
@neszero
Ай бұрын
put down the bong, lol
@macaylacayton2915
Ай бұрын
@@neszero ?
Nice, on a random note I was only thinking about GRFM only recently so to have Mr. Sociable do a video is well timed.
Thank u for this im the guy on twitter that asked u about this long time ago amazing 💪🏼
I wouldn’t mind if I was turned into a wallet, just not a Ridge wallet.
@alphooey
2 ай бұрын
I just snorted coke out my nose - of the CocaCola variety.
Missed your work. One of the best channels I've ever found, keep it up!
Blameitonjorge and Slightly Sociable videos in the same evening?? Is it my birthday?
@justmoritz
2 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes it is. Hbd!!
@SirGoose64
2 ай бұрын
Surely it's somebody's
@ImWearingPantsNow
2 ай бұрын
@@SirGoose64...'all of my friends have birthdays this year!'
@kadhemchaabene318
2 ай бұрын
@@justmoritz Ironically, it actually is xD Thx :p
I was just thinking about this video yesterday... Completely forgot it existed for the better part of a decade. Crazy.
Welcome back, glad to see something from you again! Hope you’re doing well!
Glad you're back! So stoked for a new video. ❤
Great video and welcome back my friend 😊
I think dude said anthony cass purposely because he knew/read about the grave robber as he was into robbing graves. His name isn't anthony lol
@bee-yq3wb
2 ай бұрын
Yeah 'Anthony' is definitely a red herring
@joeshabado1431
2 ай бұрын
@@bee-yq3wb People think because he stutters he must be dumb enough to say his own name but the coincidence with a grave robber who is semi well known having that name is too strong. Maybe the real anthony was filming/in the room.
@herpaderp-bp4pe
2 ай бұрын
@@joeshabado1431 stuttering has nothing to do with ones intelligence. The young man was not stupid. He actually seemed like a smart kid that probably was bullied and ridiculed due to his stutter. So he decided to start grave robbing to be accepted by this group of friends (taco, pucci and Gino) maybe grave robbing made him feel more powerful in a world that constantly made him feel powerless
@joeshabado1431
2 ай бұрын
@@herpaderp-bp4pe That was what I was saying. People are shit and judge everything on site in one second.
@HowardMoon56
2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought, he def heard about that case, and probably idolised that Anthony guy.
Just recently started re watching older videos and see this... I'm loving the energy.
holy crap. I was literally just checking your channels like 2 hours ago to see if you had uploaded anything recently!
This is the first time I’ve ever been this happy on a Monday
In the early 90's before the internet, a VHS tape was passed around in the punk scene, called "The Terror tape" and this was on it, along with some other very disturbing acts, a guy pooping into Tupperware containers, wrapping them up like ornate gifts, then filming himself putting the packages on people's cars and filming them unwrapping the surprise. I don't know who these kids are in the video but I can surely tell you that this was filmed in the early 1990's. Wish I knew more.
@SoelGriffin
Ай бұрын
Isn't that the video that the band The Crass had something to do with? If so, I can vouch that Terror Tapes is at least pre 1992 but I havent actually watched it.
@SBrown-ti8xe
Күн бұрын
I'm laughing my fucking ass off 😂
Fabulous video essay. Gee, people will get up to mischief ! Nice to see you Slightly ❤
We've barely been getting any content, but this is slightly better
Most likely scenario is some kids who were probably wannabe filmmakers/horror movie makers found a forgotten cemetery or grave somewhere in the woods or on some abandoned property and found the skull there, the video itself is just them fucking around . Look at all the garbage instructional tapes that RLM sifts through, this almost seems just like a dark parody of those.
@thacryinggame
2 ай бұрын
Yep.
@thacryinggame
2 ай бұрын
Skull probably not real.
@larsonfamilyhouse
2 ай бұрын
@@thacryinggame skull definitely real, complete with dentures
@Snandra66
Ай бұрын
@@thacryinggame Tbf a fake skull of that quality would probably be too hard and/or expensive to make for some film students to use for some bootleg tape to show their friends or distribute via underground channels. I think it's far more likely it's a real skull, snatched from a grave as he claims? No idea. But even big budget horror movies like Poltergeist have used real human remains just because it is that much cheaper and easier to get ahold of.
Missed you! So glad you’re back
Barely/Slightly Sociable videos are the only things that make me go to bed at a reasonable time lol. Every time there is a new one I genuinely look forward to laying down and pondering your words.
Welcome back! First Jorge now this? AHHMAZIN
As someone who had a cornea transplant, I was expecting that but it's been a shock to hear black market corneas are also used. Well, that's something I didn't expect to learn today.
@RowieSundog
2 ай бұрын
Really changes how you look at things eh
@k1d9099
29 күн бұрын
@@RowieSundog an eye opener for sure
*NOW THIS* is what I love right here; a topic no-one else has noticed and brought to major light as of yet and you got it first. Too my knowledge at least but great job dude. And unfortunately now I wish I hadn’t signed up to donate 😣
@roleat
22 күн бұрын
Retract your donation
Been waiting for you to upload something for what feels like forever
Missed you so fuckin much bro, one of the best content creators out there. hope we see more soon
I know " Anthony ". I grew up with him, he lived in the Shinnecock Indian Nation Reservation in Suffolk county.
@herpaderp-bp4pe
Ай бұрын
😮 Is his real name Anthony? You put quotation marks around the name so I wasn't sure. Can you tell me more over dm?
@mikescott5440
Ай бұрын
@@herpaderp-bp4pe I'm not sure that I should give away his information. I forgot all about his grave robbing video until I happened to come across this today. I haven't spoken to him for many years and last I knew he was in college studying law. Years ago a mutual friend told me he was working as a public defender. He probably doesn't want his information being connected to this video anymore.
@CP-he7qy
Ай бұрын
@@mikescott5440was the video fake then? Can you tell us anything, providing you keep him anonymous??
@herpaderp-bp4pe
Ай бұрын
@@mikescott5440 Okay, fair enough. You didn't have to tell me his full name though, Mike. I just wanted to know if his real first name was Anthony or not. This is a huge internet mystery that many of us are trying to solve but. I guess I'm not expecting to ever know his identity if he wants to stay anonymous. The main information I wanted to know, was if this video is real or if it's staged? Do you happen to know? I also wanted to know if "Anthony" is still alive. If he really did put the illegal activity behind him(if he really was a real grave robber), and tried to better his life. Then that's amazing! I honestly have seen so many people claim to know him. Saying he died or was murdered. So, if what you are saying is true then I'm happy for him. He should never be ashamed of this film though. There's actually a lot of people who loved this film and thought he was an amazing actor. If he ever came out to tell his story behind it, I think people would actually respect that he changed his life for the better. Thank you so much for sharing this information with me though. There's a group on reddit with close to 300 people who are trying to solve this mystery of Anthony's identity. But I'll pass this information along to the group. The last thing I would ever want to do is invade Anthony's privacy if he doesn't want to be found.
@mikescott5440
Ай бұрын
@@CP-he7qy The bones are real but he was not a grave robber. It's something much less dramatic than that. It was just a kid making a funny video. I haven't watched it in a long time but I always thought that was pretty apparent from the start due to the dialogue. Some of the things he says are pretty ridiculous. I'm so surprised to find out that there is so much interest in this old video, I had no clue it had become internet lore.
HOLY SHIT NEW VIDEO. I almost forgot about this channel! Gonna watch this tonight!
Thanks for coming back
Maybe they were just odd kids, outsiders, who were into horror things. The camera guy, Pouchy or wtr was interested in horror movies, thus all the magazines and zombie films, while the Anthony kid was a crazy one who robbed graves 2 times, but he liked to brag and over-exaggerate it, like many teenagers do, to make him look more experienced and cool (killing witnesses etc). He did a lot of research on the topic, and probably heard experiences from other body snatchers. He definitely heard a story about Anthony C. and probably idolised him. That's why he used his name in the end. I think he's not acting but of course, he knows he's on camera, so he want's to share his knowledge with the world lol.
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
I hear ya on most of that. But wasn’t the real “Anthony C” in the papers several years after this was likely to be filmed? (Assuming this was shot in the late 80s or early 90s, and Anthony Cassamassina’s case was after 1995 - I can only find an article from ‘99 regarding his witness testimony)
Ohhhhhh I'm so being cremated.
@codemiesterbeats
Ай бұрын
Well that's where you get jacked... as your family and friends are not expecting a body 😂
@punkman1122
25 күн бұрын
Make a will
We’re all so glad to see you back Mr. Sociable, hope all is well
wow man your edits are crazy! good video
Funnily enough I just finished watching Ask a Mortician’s video about the…selling body parts scandal at Harvard. I guess this is my little body snatching marathon.
Oh shit, I'm so happy to see you back in my feed.
@FlexBeanbag
2 ай бұрын
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@FlexBeanbag
2 ай бұрын
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Ahhhhh I missed you, so glad you’re back dawg I love your videos
I get physically excited when I see your name pop up in the uploads. Hope to enjoy your videos forever, my friend!!
I saw so much stuff similar to this in the late '90s. How could I have never heard of this tape?
I work in commercial banking and I almost did a loan for a tissue bank that sold body parts to schools, research institutions, and surgeons that needed to practice new procedures. Fascinating stuff but ultimately my executive management did not want to take body parts as collateral even though they’re actually very easy to liquidate in event of default. Great money in the industry but there’s only I believe 7 in the US.
Damn we are getting so many awesome uploads today! Excited to watch this
Ya got a good voice for this kind of content. I often find that these type of channels have the problem of coming across as tone def
@SlightlySociable Great analysis. I'm really going to have to tear my house apart to find the 90's catalog that I saw this in... I used to get a lot of the vhs copy/bootleg catalogs and I still have them somewhere... I'm thinking the catalog in particular that may have had this was called "Catalog of Carnage" which I first rifled through in 1994, and I actually got my own copy in 1996. It advertised horror, mondo/death, exploitation, and bizarre/uncategorized vhs bootlegs, as well as human skeletons/bones, and also had a bound in Alchemy Gothic catalog. I searched online, but couldn't find anything. When I find it, (will hunt the house this weekend,) I will let you know and if my memory held up and its in there or another catalog, I can send it to you if you want.
@BarelySociable
2 ай бұрын
Post to the subreddit! And yeah I’ll tweet it out that’s a good lead though. I saw your comment thread on debunk file but couldn’t find that one
@CP-he7qy
2 ай бұрын
Any update on this?
@SoelGriffin
Ай бұрын
I found and went through the Catalog of Carnage as well as 3 other companies video catalogs and none of them have this in them. Checked under both Grave Robbing and Ensuring titles. I had leaned on it being listed in Carnage, being that it was a 1996-97 update of their '94 edition and the oldest one I have, and all the other companies' catalogs being from late 90's to early 00''s. I'm absolutely certain I have seen it listed, but due to the above, it must've been later than I recalled, either in a different print catalog (least likely) or via one of the video sellers new-at-the-time online catalogs (most likely; damn I'm old af,) so whenever/whereever I saw it, it wouldvd had to be between 1998 and early 2003 (I know this timeframe cause it's when I finally copped an all region dvd player, but also incidentally when a slew of companies started flooding the market with brand new dvd releases of obscure/foreign horror/cult/mondo/oddity films originally released anywhere from the 60's to the 90's.) Tldr, the 2 cents I threw out amounts to f*ck all as far as serving any use towards narrowing down a date for the subject video (but you can now identify at least one person that has watched serious levels of visual tripe, then again, here we are on KZread...)
@SoelGriffin
Ай бұрын
One more cent, though this is purely conjecture (Soc, I mightve even missed you maybe putting forth the same thought,) but its gonna make me go back through them catalogs again, with more tedium... I'd expect that the true original release of this would have been under a completely different title than either Grave Robbing for Morons or the compilation Ensuring Your Place In Hell. Why? Well both these sound like a 2nd hand take on the video's subject. Additionally the many one-off typically un-named amateur productions filmed and distributed to friends or trading circles (or if shot in the last 15 years, just upped to YT, TT, or one of the many ul networks,) that reached the video seller catalog outfits and subsequently included in their catalogs for sale, a number of said outfits would opt to give their own name to their offering of a specific tape, either a close variant on the name it was most commonly encounted under when obtained in the trading circles, or oh-so slightly less commonly, a name more befitting of the particular outfit/catalog's morbidly twee sense of humor.
"Now this arises from a bit of drama between Sword and Scale-" WHY IS HE ALWAYS IN DRAMA HE'S SO WEIRD AND ANNOYING 😭
That's not a stutter, that's the demons coming out.
To the person who thought it was fake because they recorded an admission of guilt. Have you ever been on social media? Hell Kick is basically full of people recording themselves committing crimes.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
2 ай бұрын
1. Social media is very immediate, you publish without a barrier of editing or having to make copies and hand them over. The time and effort put in makes a person think "whoops I'll just edit this part out". 2. Posting on social media is pissing in an ocean of piss. The vastness of it all makes people believe their stuff won't be seen by the authorities. When you're handing off tapes, you are the one guy making that one tape. How many tapes like those existed? It wouldn't get lost in a sea of odd content as so few were producing it at home.
You have a great voice for narration, you should post pore often, people will watch.
@CantTellYou
2 ай бұрын
He does have a great voice, reminds me of this other guy “Barely Sociable” but there’s no way they could be the same person
@joshuaneilson
2 ай бұрын
@@CantTellYou oh I heard of him yeah sounds very similar
OMG HE UPLOADED wow love the vids you got me into this whole side of cold cases and Internet mystery's
We love you Sociable.
This deserves to be a main channel video
I had to look twice when I saw this upload, good to see you again
So glad you’re back!
I heard about the grandmother who got blown up, but did not hear about the veteran who got dissected for spectators or the guy who was used as a crash test dummy. Disgusting. I hope there was some way for the families to sue the hell out of the brokers.
@wednesday122
2 ай бұрын
Those are both technically “for science” though, aren’t they? What else do these people expect to happen to the bodies?
@KookShanty
2 ай бұрын
@@wednesday122 If the body is donated to alzheimer's research that doesn't mean all scientific purposes are fair game lmao
@kenw2225
2 ай бұрын
The old lady for alzheimers, and the younger man for alcohol affect on the liver? It's pretty straightforward. It's quite a lack of respect to betray someone this way.
@Knuckleb0ne
2 ай бұрын
@@kenw2225 This is the truth of body donation: You don't get to choose what happens to your body. Similarly, if you are an organ donator when you die you also do not get to choose what gets harvested, and sometimes it's the majority of your skin or vascular system.
@milkak6823
2 ай бұрын
Is it different in America? Cuz here in Germany you get to choose what organs you want to donate. It's still your body even after death. @@Knuckleb0ne
Finally you’re back!