Coming from a heavy wrecker operator I loved this video, especially the diagram at the beginning. So many people assume a block doubles the pull always. Though I would love to see the diagram go past 90° showing the extreme force it puts on the block in a redirect. At 120° I believe is the number, you’re now putting double the force on the block, so a 10k winch could break a 4 ton block(I’ve done it). And I think someone else said it but for sure needs to be noted, your winch is only at full strenght(ie 10,000 pounds or whatever the rating) on the first wrap, once you’re in that second or third layer you lose “power”. Also loved loved loved pointing out you need to rig to a rated point. So many windshields couldve been saved with that simple tip!

I would really like more videos, with Chris. The more medical information, the better. But, he's also just a fun host and I would like more of you two wheeling.

Mike and Doc, another very informative video. I liked it! I liked it, a lot! Cheers, Mate.

Couple things to remember when using this 2:1 mechanical advantage... Your pulling speed will be cut in half, so recovery will take twice as long. Make sure you know the duty cycle of your winch; it may be necessary to stop and let the winch rest in order to prevent overheating. Also, when Michael says “use rated equipment”, he didn’t exactly articulate it, but know that you are putting double the load on your snatchblock and shackle so make sure it’s rated appropriately.

@tpv59

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU. You ( OBVIOUSLY ) KNOW your stuff. Question PLEASE. - Is it MORE of a advantage to unwind as much winch line/rope as possible OFF the winch drum for a recovery ??? If yes, WHAT is the reason/theory behind this PLEASE ? - To me, it would make NO difference if the winch drum had 10 revolutions on it or 100 revolutions on it !!! Regards.

Fantastic info! Thank you.

THANK YOU ! BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! HOPE YOUR REST OF THE YEAR IS GREAT ! GOD BLESS YOU ALL ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS ! ENJOYED !

Your picture with angles is misguiding! Using tree (static point) as an anchor will delete double pull mechanic. Please correct me If I am wrong. 👍

Theoretically a double line pull has twice the power. Practically, (assuming the same distance between anchor points) it's more than twice because more line is spooled off the drum and the winch itself has more leverage.

Is there any reason to go with a d shackle over a soft shackle in this set up?

Your killin me Smalls

So fitting a rated recovery point is on your list of things to do Mike? Because wrapping a strap around the bumper is not ideal lol

Any word on when t4 overland will be back in stock?

Why does a Camel Trophy Land Rover look SO GOOD?!?

@otmd-overlandingtrophymd5557

3 жыл бұрын

I ask myself that everyday! I don’t know the answer but I’m good with that!

does this method work if I connect my winch to a tree then back to the truck? IE; Self recovery

@otmd-overlandingtrophymd5557

3 жыл бұрын

Sure does! We just used the 80 because there wasn’t a good tree but if needed we could have worked out way up with the trees we had.

I am not understanding the new video. I am seeing the Toyota being used as the anchor, and the pulley attached to the bumper. The terminal end of the winch line is going to the land rover. This creates a 1:1 mechanical advantage with a change of direction. This does not double the strength of the pull. The mechanical advantage is created when a pulley is attached to the load(land rover) and the terminal end of the winch line is at the anchor(toyota). The moving pulley (attached to the load) creates the 2:1 mechanical advantage.

@L0sGuys

3 жыл бұрын

1167 Crew i think you might be confused because the land rover is pulling itself. There is indeed a 2:1 mechanical advantage in this system. The pulley is moving in relation to the load, even though it’s not actually moving in space. It still takes 2’ of rope to pull the land rover 1’.

@Crew-kg3px

3 жыл бұрын

@@L0sGuys A fixed pulley can be looked at as a First Class Lever. The fulcrum is located at the pin in the center of the sheave, directly below the shackle that anchors the pulley in place. Because the sheave is round, the distance from the pin (fulcrum) to the point the rope leaves the sheave and drops to the resistance (load) is equal to the distance from the pin to the point that the rope leaves the sheave and drops to the effort (force). The two lever arms are equal resulting in 1:1 mechanical advantage. A moving pulley can be looked at as a Second Class Lever. The fulcrum is located on the edge of the sheave directly below the point the rope is attached to the anchor. One lever arm extends from the fulcrum to the pin which is directly above the shackle that attaches the resistance (load) to the pulley. The other lever arm extends from the fulcrum to the point where the rope leaves the sheave and goes to the effort (force). This lever arm is twice as long as the other arm, resulting in 2:1 mechanical advantage. So where is the mechanical advantage created?

@L0sGuys

3 жыл бұрын

@@Crew-kg3px The pulley is moving and acting as a class 2 lever. The fulcrum is where the end of the winch line attaches to the Land Rover, and the force is coming from the winch. The load is the Toyota. Again, I think you may be confused by the fact that the Land Rover is pulling itself, giving the appearance that the pulley is not moving. If you set up the same exact scenario and the Land Rover instead pulled the Toyota up, wouldn't you agree that it's a 2:1 system? It doesn't matter which object is moving (load or anchor), only that the pulley moves in relation to the anchor.

@L0sGuys

3 жыл бұрын

@1167 Crew I'm not sure I totally understand what you mean when you ask "where is the pulley", other than to say it's attached to the load (Toyota), but it is moving towards the force applied to it.

@moejoeryzen

3 жыл бұрын

If I follow what you are asking, the answer is yes, it creates a 2:1 advantage when the terminal end attaches back to the vehicle with the winch. This can be demonstrated with scales in the following video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYiemqyhnqi4ZbQ.html The video is not in english, but it's still easy to follow.

Seems backwards to me having the Landie being “saved” by the FZJ80.

Your wheel was twisted you need to check your rigging!