"This would be a very off-meta build without War Wagons" Imagine hearing that 3 years ago lmao

@linmic9

Жыл бұрын

I still remember back in the haggard times of early 2020 while watching a Turin casted tournament, one of the old school multiplayer champs brought a double war wagon in his build and chat was baffled since they were considered a meme unit. The guy pulled it off though, fun battle.

the lone grail relic heroically charging the empire backline at 15:35 lol

Love to see some bretonnia cool units in the field

Beautiful Mantide from Bretonnia

@venox3811

Жыл бұрын

Peasantide!

I love taking 2 of the Hippo knights here. It seems like they're really good at supporting each other, since that's a unit you really don't want stuck in a blob, and also a unit that can lay a whole blob flat for a second.

This looked like a movie scene wherein the last minute the hero was able to rally the hesitant populace to his cause to overthrow the empire and a massive wave of reinforcements arrived. It's beautiful. 😢

@ismlamaroof6438

Жыл бұрын

Basically The Patriot, rofl.

It's a beautiful thing to see - Bretonnia putting the Empire in it's place. Fingers crossed for more Bretonnian content in the future - and when the Lady's knights take over an objective, stop calling it "disastrous"! You're supposed to be impartial! 😄

@patrickaustin8631

10 ай бұрын

Turin’s a man of the empire, it’s not always easy 😂

That tide of infantry was glorious

I felt like when ever the hypos were on the ground they were in danger from the demi’s. He maybe should of used the land feature on franz to take advance of that could of been strong. Great game by both players.

I love warhammer fantasy, because as these two classical human factions fight it out, somewhere in the same world, there are Egyptian mummies fighting zombie pirates.

Really enjoyed this battle, great stuff!

That was a really great looking battle!

That ending unleashing of the horde was epic,I felt like it was a LOTR movie. There was a brief chance of victory, and then the enemy hears a ROAR from the treeline and all hope dies with it.

Turin any chance we could see 2v2 fights? Maybe themed too like Empire and Dwarfs vs Greenskins

When did war wagons get a buff? I remember on their release they were a massive meme for being so useless

@turinRTS

Жыл бұрын

WH3!

@mariojorge68

Жыл бұрын

They didn't so much get a buff rather than a bugfix. You see, for a long long while the War Wagons were wrongly assigned the regular Handgunner projectile. So each individual shot was firing using Handgunner damage values instead of its own. The moment their damage was reflective of what it said on the card, they dominated.

@sotark1109

Жыл бұрын

@@mariojorge68 That's only a part of it. On top of the projectile damage bugfix, they got buffed from 50 to 66 speed, which is a huuuge upgrade to their manoeuvrability. Any of these two changes alone would have made the War Wagons an okay unit, but those two changes combined made them as good as they are now.

@fkaliases

Жыл бұрын

@@sotark1109 don't forget the broken hitboxes, which completely removes their natural counter, which is cavalry

@spellbound1875

Жыл бұрын

@@fkaliases I don't think it's a broken hitbox actually. In warhammer 2 their was an issue where while chasing units moving at around the same speed entities wouldn't start attack animations because they weren't close enough. I think the old speed value just meant cav could consistently catch the wagons whereas now they can't consistently. Doesn't help that a lot of skirmish units don't lose vigor while firing.

I've been trying to make the hippogryphs work they look so damn cool

@spellbound1875

Жыл бұрын

Yeah at 2000 they're hard to make work without a lot of support. Could probably use some kind of power bump.

@silverhost9782

Жыл бұрын

@@spellbound1875 They should get perfect vigour. Maybe even light regeneration like Louen, though that might be a bit too much

@spellbound1875

Жыл бұрын

@Silverhost978 Definitely agree on perfect vigor but I might suggest a slight WS boost actually. Bumping them to 150 would make it easier for them to reap value after health pools ballooned in the move to ultra.

Man what a banger. Two great factions to watch, play, and root for, duking it out.

I'd really wish I could chose other colour schemes in campaing... maybe when I confederate another faction I get the option to take their colours... some of the minor factions look so much better than the main ones

@jonathanjeffrey3755

Жыл бұрын

Just get a faction unlocker mod and recruit defeated legendary lords mod and start as any faction you like.

a showcase of your tabletop army would be nice to see! :)

That was a lot of unit to summon and micro-manage !

Master class Bretonnia play!

What wouldn't I give for an actual Bret DLC

@aliraj1718

Жыл бұрын

And i to watch land battles again

@mmorkinism

Жыл бұрын

@@aliraj1718 there are other channels doing land battles. But domination is better.

@aliraj1718

Жыл бұрын

@@mmorkinism yeah nah

Nice to see my Brets winning.

sometimes i wish you could bring unique units like the mistwalkers, blessed lizards or red state troops like the unbreakable greatswords or silver shield spearmen

@SWAGRID166

Жыл бұрын

you can if you set up a game and turn unit cap limits off

@Nightmare_52

Жыл бұрын

I know it's technically possible but I meant for tournament use and such, I'd like to see how they perform and some they would bring some variety once in a while to battles

Faye Enchantress had a vision where she bathed in grease. Lets her slip away again and again and adds fan art.

Nerexa lost when he didnt use the wagons to chase down the low health hippogryphs in his back field that were bouncing from grenade launcher to grenade launcher, they took out like 3 half health units of grenade launchers. Saying that, easy mistake and I prob would have lost a lot sooner than that

Reinforcements have arrived! Reinforcements have arrived! Reinforcements have arrived! Reinforcements have arrived! Reinforcements have arrived!

This was fought like TW WHI

love me some hippos

From the mouth of karl franz himself, thats what she said

My favorite Bretonnia strategy... SUMMON THE BLOB!

This looked like the empire player couldn't micro good enough, with better micro I'm sure he could've won, that's one thing I dislike over just regular battles, the micro required on domination is much higher.

@thesandwitch-yq1rq

Жыл бұрын

but why is it bad in your opinion? both LB and domination demand certain qualities. LB is less dynamic but is also micro intensive and highly tactical. There is a "macro" (economical) aspect to the game added in domination, which appeals or not at all to players. But I do not understand why a high level of micro is a bad element to the game. I actually think it's quite the opposite :D

@tobiasL1991

Жыл бұрын

@@thesandwitch-yq1rq For me personally, I favor tactical and strategic knowledge over quickly clicking a button. Quick level micro just isn't as tactical. Especially in a game with tons and tons of variety in armies. This isn't SC2 and it shouldn't aspire to be it. Lastly multiplayer total war is entirely forgotten by CA, the only thing that will keep it going is fans and players, and a harder game will have less people playing it, look at SC2, year after year it's less popular with less and less support. If we wanna see warhammer total war multiplayergames in 5 years, we need the game to be accessible, easy to learn but hard to master.

@thesandwitch-yq1rq

Жыл бұрын

@@tobiasL1991 I agree! But there need not be any conflict between Dom and LB. Both are completely valid and interesting in their own right. It is kind of harsh to reduce the level of tactics and decision making in Dom to... Clicking fast. For spectators though, I wouldn't know. Thankfully there are both Dom and lb casters and tournaments so everybody can be served. Except for Settra of course.

Mantide sounds like something unpleasant that happens in prison 🥺

I want too sea your empire army( i mean your modells) and i was a Bretonia player in tabletop and Darkelf and a little bit Khemri and i am a bit disappointed with the Bretonia modells we saw because when i am remember right all heads are nothing new, for the Khemri modells i can say nothing beccause at the time as i played them meta was chariots and horse archers with heros and lords, and we saw only infantry weapons and shields and maybe the ushabty weapon.

I have no clue what is happening. Only played for 1hour :s.

ggwp

Domination is not fun to watch. 90% of games come down to who got the middle point first and then they won by points when most of there army is deleted

@ladyfyreblood6550

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

No More Brothers Wars

FOR BRITANNIA!!!!

Awakening of the wood is a necessary take against the Fay enchantress and her uggo model and enfeebling aura.

empire was afk whole fight

relique...its fronch. prenounced like Queek...ReliQuee

Really wish bretonia would get the dragons and more footed knight variants already the sige campaign as them sucks ass open field battles are great and micro intense but when your doing walled settlement battles it's very annoying the slow grind of horses filing down streets

Turin saying the Empier wa performing the man tide when Bretonia had almost twice the amount of units on the field for most of the game was probably one of the most akward statement made.

@firefang225

Жыл бұрын

I mean in regards to regular Empire builds it was a mantide, given it was almost entirely infantry spam with only a few cavalry and wagons

@florians9949

Жыл бұрын

@@firefang225 True, but it felt a bit Walmart compare to Bretonia mantide.