I asked this exact question in an Instagram group I am part of. I wonder how the algorithm found out about it, considering our chats should be private... 😂In any case, great video!!

I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I love this, and thanks so much for the lesson on the machines. 🙏🏾 I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 👍🏾

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Given the double bass's relationship with the violone, it makes sense that we have 5 stringers. More would be cumbersome given the larger size of a double bass, less would be restrictive given the repertoire. Violones were once a "stylish" instrument for the time period (and were much more affordable than a harpsichord). Also, they came in various ranges kind of like some brass and woodwinds. They even had various string numbers from three to six.

An alternative to the C extension or 5 string bass is to tune in 5ths, C, G, D, A low to high. Works for Joel Quarrington, Red Mitchell and others. No extension required and the string tension is slightly lower on the top than both a 5 string or a bass with C extension. Sounds beautiful and deep too.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Wow.... That's getting super fancy now. 😄 I'm sure that could totally work. I'd be curious if the reduced tension on the top might make the instrument less "punchy." Very cool concept though.

@chasmonaghan521

Жыл бұрын

Joseph, I switched from 4ths to 5ths about five years ago and it’s been the best thing ever…I like it for jazz - I like it better for orchestra. It definitely lends itself to staying away from open strings and also opens another realm of double stops. It took me about 3 months to get reading back close to the same level as before, but the sound, to me, is definitely worth the hassle. With just a set of strings range is extended in both directions and you have free access down to low C. Opening and closing levers is crazy. 😂

@chasmonaghan521

Жыл бұрын

In fact, if I were to go back to teaching, 5ths tuning would be highly recommended, if not required. 4ths tuning is a bad dimension, man, lol…it feels clipped and stuffy now by comparison.

@chasmonaghan521

Жыл бұрын

And using mittels in place of light/weich (low c,g are red Mitchell mittels d,a are evah pirazzi mittels on a solid instrument) - if anything, I think the thing has more punch…

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Thank you for the incredible history lesson!

Joe, your enthusiasm and delight when making classical music is so inspiring. I need to start budgeting so I can take your Discover Double Bass courses after Christmas. 😀😀🎻🎻🎵🎵

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peder! I have 2 courses now. I am glad you enjoyed this video :) 🎶🎶

Joseph Conyers The Low B String on a 5 String Upright Bass is another type of extension & despite their special sound, the 5 String Upright Bass is heavier than a 5 String Bass Guitar due to its size.

Hi Joseph, i just want to let you know that you inspire me. This was such a great, non-intimidating look at the usage of the extension. I have yet to go there, but i know i will have to, so that's why i tuned in. Thanks a million!!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, and I'm glad you found it helpful!

Very surprising. I never before heard about the possibility to use an extension in order to rich lower notes than a regular Double Bass.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Bassists seem to always be looking for ways to deepen the bass sound even more!

Thomas & George Martin cleverly solved the playability problem of the 5 String Upright Bass by tweaking its setup

4-string basses with (or without) different kind of extensions and 5-string basses with low B or low C. The plethora of options (and let's not get started with high C, tuning in fifths, viennese tuning, solo tuning, drop tunings and other scordaturas...) with their own different possibilities. Sometimes composers forget that beside the upper GDA strings it's not granted what the lower open string(s) are when writing harmonics, double stops and other stuff where it matters.

I got an extension on my bass in 2019, and $2000 is pretty accurate in my experience.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the confirmation! 👍🏾

Excellent video!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍🏾

I went cheap and went down the rabbit hole with the whole fifth thing. Now if I put an extension on that bad boy…. Ohhh

Joseph Conyers!!! From Gerard Stroh In Tracy California*** 3 Weeks Ago I Got Me A Real Acoustic Double Bass and I am Loving It Joseph and Here Is My Story About Getting My New Bass*** I am 59 years Old and Will Be 60 Years Old On Feb. 14th On My Next Birthday Joseph*** When I Was 12 Years Old I Was Are Ready Playing The Viola + Guitar And Taking Piano Lessons About 3 Years and I ask My String Teacher Donald Peterson I Really Want To Learn the Double Bass So He Went For It So About April I Started My Bass Lessons after School Each Day And When The Summer Came I ask Him Can I Take The Bass Home For The Summer And He Said Yes and When The Fall Came I Was Playing In The Orchestra Class and I Was Also Getting Good At The Piano So I Help Donald Peterson With His Students By Playing Piano To Help Him Out and I Was Also Learning Bass Guitar at Home and Learning How To Play Lead Guitar Joseph Conyers**** and Then High School Came So I Played In The Orchestra Class In High School and I Was First Chair In High School and Played The Double Bass For 4 Years and When I Left High School And So I Did Not Have A Double Bass for 35 Years so in 2015 I Got A Cheap Stick Electric Double Bass and A Good Bass Amp and I Got Me Back Playing The Double Bass And It Led Me To Now Me Bying My New Double Bass And The Scale Length Is 41 1/2 inches On My Bass Joseph and Been Watching KZread On Playing The Double Bass From The High F On The G String and Put Some Dots On My Bass and I am Getting Some Good D'addario Heavy Tension Kaplan Double Bass String For My Double Bass Joseph Conyers**** I Do Want To Get Later Is A Good Double Bass Bridge and A Double Bass Bass Extension For My Bass Later Joseph Conyers and I Use My Bass For Recording Only and That's My Story and I Am Doing My Classical Music Again and Doing My Covers On My Favoret Classical Music**** I Also Play Good Piano + Drums + Bass Guitar and 5 String Bass Guitar Too!!! I Play Mandolin + Banjo + Fretless Bass Guitar and Slide Guitar and All The Instuments In A Rock Band*** I Also Play The Church Organ and Play A Little of Violin**** So That's My Story and I Like Your KZread Channel Joseph**** Bye From Gerard Stroh******

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Gerard, thanks for your story. I'm happy the bass played a major role in your life when you were younger and that you are able to visit it again in adulthood. It's one of the amazing things about music - we're always learning, and the process never ends. Good luck on your journey, and thanks for watching my channel! 🙏🏾 Oh, and Happy Early Birthday (from someone else born on a "1"). I turn 40 in April! 😁

So where do I start?!?!? First off, I am not a bass player. I am actually a violinist/violist. But I have watched nearly all your videos over the last few months. This is my first time commenting though. I love the enthusiasm and information! You’ve got me hooked in learning more. Secondly, I always wondered what that weird contraption was on some bass players fingerboard. Now, I feel informed! Many thanks on that. But, you blew my mind with the “hip shot”!!!!! I was like.... “wait.... what the....?!?! This has to be witchcraft!” Lol I cannot wait for the next video to drop. Lol Again, a thousand thanks for enlightening the ignorant in such a wonderful way

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

😊 I love this! It's totally my pleasure. We only one what we know, and it's amazing how much of us don't know some things.... even in our own industry. I'm learning new things from my colleagues and students every day! I'm glad you enjoy the videos; they are a pleasure to make. Thanks so much for your kind words! 😄

Hi Joe, I have had just about all types of Extensions at one time or another including a few 5ers., The German machine, Horst or Stenholm/USA (owned them both) are reverse chromatic. The English Ext. is Chromatic in the keys. I have had only the E Capo, the E & D and fully chromatic. I have not yet and probably never will have a Chromatic B-fingered Ext. But, they are all fun to have and use. Thanks so much for this video. (:

Paul Brun in his History book has some information about historical extensions!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to check it out; thanks!

I remember playing Haydn Surprise Symphony at the Sewanee Summer Music Festival and there were 8 basses, 12 or so cellos. I was the only player with an extension so when a C string opportunity came I ripped it since I was the only one causing the young cellist in front of me to jump out of her chair and begin laughing uncontrollably. It was a quiet accompaniment section and it caused the conductor to stop the whole orchestra and ask what’d happened since he couldn’t perceive it. Luckily the cellist couldn’t stop laughing to make her case and everything just continued on. Extension joy. Also I always heard that composers would write for the range of the organ so even though we couldn’t even play those notes (especially with 3 stringers) they did it anyways since that’s what they wanted. By the time of Brahms there were at least some standards for the instrument (probably outlined by Berlioz + the father connection) so the parts actually started to make sense.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

This is a great story!! I love to play with extension and I am glad we have extensions to play what the composers wanted. :)

Is it also common to use the low D and C# in the opening theme of Schubert’s Unfinished?

Great vid as always Joseph! Just a thought have, do you ever set the lower string to enhance enharmonics? For example if a work is in the key of D major and even though you might not have to play low "D" you set the bass up so your lowest note is the D? Also Beethoven 6 I knew a guy that badly hurt his hand trying to play a machine extension to get that lick right! 5 Strings are fun though difficult I agree - but if your the only 5 stringer in the band and are playing something on the B string it feels as if your Hercules, and it's like holding up the whole orchestra! Gota love playing the bass! :-)

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE playing the low B. It's a lot of fun! And, yes! I have strategically left closers open for sympathetic vibrations. It's not a bad idea, in general, as it does help with resonance!

Hey, great Video! Im from Germany, and 5 String basses are the exeption here!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for watching! 5 string basses are the exception?

@maxschrothbass

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they are really uncommon. Also we play with the correct bow grip 😜

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting! There are so many five strings in the Phil, no? (And I'll let the bow thing pass... This one time... 😉😂).

@lukasraumberger5425

3 жыл бұрын

Hi I‘m from Austria Europe. I have to say 5 strings are common here. I really think this also goes for Germany. But it‘s mostly for professional orchestra. Two players share one music stand (Pult) and often times one of them plays a 5. Buuut most players don’t own the bass. It belongs to the orchestra and the only play it there. Another buuuuut: I had like five or six 5 string basses in my hands and only one of them had a B string (H-Saite for Austria and Germany) all the others were G D A E C. I think that‘a thing. Most of them don‘t work really nice with a low B. Cool video!! I also have a C-extension. It‘s not very common here, but i studied Jazz and my Professor was from US. He got one.... so i wanted to have one. Thanks for the video, best regards from Austria, Lukas

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

This is all very cool; thank you! And congrats on your extension! I also found it intriguing that most of the five strings you've encountered have the high c.... Interesting! That is VERY rare over here in the states. Thanks for your comment! 🙏🏾

hey, how do you like those Pirastro Perpetuals for arco/orchestral playing?

Music at the beginning? Very nice selection to your very awesome video !!

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

🙏🏾

Are you using a belcanto E/C or is it just a spiro in disguise...?

Nice video. I wonder what bow you use here? :)

Got my bass from the same shop

Thank you for posting such positive videos. You may have mentioned this in another video but I have not found it yet. On several of your bows you have what I would describe a extra large wrap where normally there would be a much smaller wrap on the bow. Where can I find this for my bow?

@Totalyrediclous998

3 жыл бұрын

Found it. Thanks for all your videos

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Before I could answer! Glad you did, and that for watching! Happy New Year!

I have a 5 String Bass with a Low B String which bypasses the need to have an extension, cause now the lower notes are easier to reach on a lower string.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I get it! I have just never been able to get used to having a 5th string on the instrument! 😁

@RockStarOscarStern634

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephconyers7854 That's going to be easy. With a 5 (or more) String Upright Bass, they usually contract the String Spacing so that it's easier to reach all the strings, & getting the right bowing angle for each string has been facilitated with having enough curvature in the bridge.

@RockStarOscarStern634

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephconyers7854 I have a Fender 5 String J Bass that I bought from Guitar Center when I was in 5th Grade.

@RockStarOscarStern634

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephconyers7854 5 String Double Basses are great for Orchestral playing, Solo playing, & also ideal for playing 5 String Bass parts in Gospel Music if you're in an Unplugged setting. The 5 String Bass neck isn't that much larger than a 4 String Neck, it's only a bit bigger so they contract the string spacing so that it's easier to hold.

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

I don't doubt it! Five strings have always felt awkward to me, but that's just because it's hard to teach this old dog new tricks! 😝

Hi Joseph Conyers*** This Is Gerard Stroh In Tracy California**** I Restring My Double Bass With D'Addario Kaplan Heavy Tension And Those Strings Sound Good On My Bass and Talking About 5 String Basses I Don't A 5 String Double Bass But I Have Five 5 String Bass Guitars and one Of My 5 String Bass Fretless and I Got one Of My 5 String Basses Is Tune One Ocive Down Below A Standerd Bass Guitar and The Low B String Is Gage Is 266 Gage String and The Low E String Is A 200 Gage and My A String is A 140 Gage and My G String Is A 90 Gage and My D String Is A 110 Gage and To Play This Bass Guitar You Need A Big Heavy Duty Bass Amp With An 18 Inch Speaker With High Power To Reproduce The Bass Notes Of The 3 Lowest Bass Strings and The G & The D Strings Most Bass Amps Can Handle It Fine*** And I Also Have another 5 String Bass Guitar Strung Left Handed and I Also Have Four 4 String Bass Guitar and I Have A Fender Bass VI and Another 6 String Basses That Are Tune Just Like A Guitar One Octive Down and It Sounds Cool When You Play Guitar Chords and When I Play 5 String Bass I Remind Myself That The Low String Is A Low B**** And My A String Is In The Middle Joseph Conyers*** I Play Lot's Of Piano and Synthesizer**** On The Double Bass I still Have To Brush Up My Thumb plaing Up The Neck Might Take Some Pratice To Get It Down But I Have Lots Of Time To Do It**** I Love Playing The Piano Because All he Notes Are Layed Out On The Piano KeyBoard****** I Like Your Double Bass Channel Joseph Conyers*** Bye Joseph Conyers*** From Gerard Stroh***

Here's the Bass line of Badinerie by JS Bach on a Fender 5 String Bass:kzread.info/dash/bejne/oX2gzap_dtO6mLg.html

@RockStarOscarStern634

3 жыл бұрын

That's a 5 String Electric Bass, it's much easier to carry than a Double Bass due to its size. There's a reason alot of Rock n Roll Upright Bassists from the 40s & 50s switched over to the Bass Guitar cause it's smaller, much easier to carry, the frets made it easier to find the notes (there are Fretless Bass Guitars too but they're less common), & because it's plugged into an Amp, it's much punchier.

Or be like my cheap ass and tune the E down to a C and you have a free C string that you can finger each note fairly easily but takes a little bit of a time to rewire your brain for pitches but soon within the next year I'll have a beautiful 5 string with a B extension to a high C that I'm super excited for

You can also tuned a Double Bass in 5ths by Using 5ths tuned Bass Strings (Red Mitchell bought that tuning back to life and it's an Octave below a Cello making it super fun to play on).

Why not just play 5 string bass? :)

*Extension 😂

@josephconyers7854

3 жыл бұрын

😁