#donglemadness

Full Review of HiBy FC4 DAC/Amp Dongle
Timestamps:
00:00 Greetings
00:57 Features & Configuration
1:38 DAC Configuration
4:32 Usage & MQA
8:53 Sound Impressions
11:52 Synergy & Power
13:11 Max Power drive
16:05 Comparisons & Conclusions
19:46 BAL vs SE Output
20:49 Efficiency & Power Drain
21:42 Final Rating
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  • @ruger6049
    @ruger604910 ай бұрын

    Yes, shorter videos are better. I appreciate your thoughtfulness towards your busy viewers. Cheers! Already bought two of your recommendations. Excellent! Cheers!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks Ruger, y earlier videos especially when I first started in November last year tend to be long. I am learning still to do concise presentation that still be meaningful to the audiences. Cheers.

  • @fraga85
    @fraga85 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy, because of you, I'm now, a dongle collector. I have several dongle, DAC and I really love it. 😁 Thanks Andy 👍👍

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Enjoy the #donglemadness!

  • @marcelpfeiffer6587
    @marcelpfeiffer6587 Жыл бұрын

    Happy new year also to you. Great review!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

  • @dhiaoshaish
    @dhiaoshaish11 ай бұрын

    Really good description and reviews

  • @PabloGonzalez-io6pq
    @PabloGonzalez-io6pq Жыл бұрын

    Great video!! You mentioned that you tried to make it short, but sometimes, a well done, long video is what people need!!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Pablo. For as long as the message gets across, that's what matter most

  • @marvistv6551
    @marvistv6551 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve the hiby Fc4 The only place the light changes with mqa on tidal is with my laptop tidal app. It’s wonderful

  • @dtzyYT
    @dtzyYT7 ай бұрын

    The mic support alone put this at the top of my list as to what dongle to buy.

  • @DragonDreamZero
    @DragonDreamZero Жыл бұрын

    Great review

  • @kairulabas809
    @kairulabas809 Жыл бұрын

    Happy new year, Andy.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    🎉

  • @abrahamlendechy273
    @abrahamlendechy273 Жыл бұрын

    Great informative review as always. Its nice to have a review on this new version. Existing reviews would cover the 9218 version that is no longer available, since Hiby finally ran out of those chips. (every other manufacturer stopped using that chip over a year ago because it was discontinued, but I guess Hiby had a large stock lol) A couple notes: -FC4 is actually a full decoder, you could store MQA local files and use any non-mqa enabled player, such as neutron or foobar on windows, and FC4 will fully unfold them. (exclusive mode is required though) -When using UAPP for mqa playback (local files or streaming), it is preferred to enable the MQA passthrough option. This will automatically detect whether you are using a renderer, full decoder or non-mqa enabled dac. It will disable software decoding whenever you are using a full decoder. (and you will see green or blue indicator, not magenta) I´m not a big fan of the MQA sound, but I think this could be valuable for those who care. And Happy New Year!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insight, I am learning more and more. I don't use MQA that much either but it is useful for trying out new albums lol. Happy New Year to you too!

  • @jayros

    @jayros

    Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea there were two versions of the FC4. I wonder if they have the same sound signature. I've seen really good reviews about the FC4, and really bad reviews of people saying the dac can be sibilant sometimes, among other issues, and that could probably be the reason, people are testing two different models. Who knows.

  • @abrahamlendechy273

    @abrahamlendechy273

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayros the first version sold out during the 11.11 sales. So chances are every review you have seen at this point is that version with 9218 chips. Andy´s review is the first one I´ve seen about this new version

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ridhoputra8603 Let me try asking HiBy directly

  • @marvistv6551
    @marvistv6551 Жыл бұрын

    This is the first dongle I’ve own that made my S12 soundstage wider as hell. No dongle has done that. I’ve Link 2 bal Abigail Sonata e44 Tanchjim space

  • @hiraya2155

    @hiraya2155

    Жыл бұрын

    so fc4 is has wider sound stage and better sound quality than link2bal??

  • @akibo5591

    @akibo5591

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hiraya2155 Link2bal is better in overall for me. I have Space & Fc4

  • @fid7715

    @fid7715

    Жыл бұрын

    @@akibo5591 Space vs fc4 which one bette

  • @akibo5591

    @akibo5591

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fid7715 Obviously Fc4.

  • @lrvan
    @lrvan Жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere, people said that 8x unfolded MQA is better than a fully unfolded (16x)? Maybe that's why Hiby FC5 comes with MQA 8x? Anw now i know which DAC i'll take, wanna taste that lively and engaging sound, cheaper as well 😄👍 Also subscribed to your other page, wanna try my luck too, lol. Happy new year Andi, wishing you a fun-filled and healthy 2023!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and Happy New Year!

  • @danielpalomino3299
    @danielpalomino3299 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Review. I hope you can try the Reiyin MCA1 or MCA3.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I hope so too 😁

  • @castiealmckay9683
    @castiealmckay9683 Жыл бұрын

    Happy new year... Edit : it would be better if you add chapters to the video so, we can go directly to let's say, stuffs like sound impressions; if we searched for the product details already.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I am still learning to use KZread and will do my best to add Chapters. For now the Timestamps in the Description can help navigation

  • @estinoazell1016
    @estinoazell1016 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review.. I wonder will I prefer this over FC5 based on memory haha... also careful of the tube lol

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, FC4 is very closely attuned to what was started with FC5, so you probably won't be getting much difference at all

  • @nrianvega9086
    @nrianvega9086 Жыл бұрын

    The cable seems very common, what do you think of the beautiful Ibasso CB18? Do you think it benefits from that cable? He seems like a very good partner. excellent review was everything I expected from this Dac. Greetings.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Good question, I haven't tried the iBasso CB18 cable on FC4, but I will try soon. What I expect, with better shielded cable, it will be less prone to RF jitters and that should introduce a cleaner signal for audio data stream yes? I will find out soon. Cheers!

  • @antoniogoncalves7363
    @antoniogoncalves7363 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy. congratulations for the video. hiby fc4 and tanchjim space. which one would you recommend to play an Ananda Stealth on 4.4? with the aim of extracting the maximum possible from the technique and spatiality.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and Happy New Year! For your Ananda, to get a bit more technical performance then between FC4 and Space, I would choose FC4, just make sure you use the high VRMS 4.4mm port and run in USB exclusive mode (if on Android). Cheers

  • @antoniogoncalves7363

    @antoniogoncalves7363

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness thanks Andy.

  • @pavanakumar270187
    @pavanakumar270187 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent review Andy, comparing with the desktop amplification..Is FC4 really that powerful - 680mW both channels? Power wise closer to Dacport HD? I didn't get when you said amplification wise M15 is more powerful that FC4..pls clarify

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. We need to view this as 340 mW per channel because it makes more sense that way, a manner of saying, DACport HD actually is 775 mW per channel L/R and MT-602 at 1300 mW per channel. Regardless, FC4 is neck to neck on par with M15 power wise

  • @pavanakumar270187

    @pavanakumar270187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Oh..got it..sad that Dacport HD isn't available anymore. I really regret not buying it when it was available.

  • @nrianvega9086
    @nrianvega9086 Жыл бұрын

    Greetings, a question. with the JCally AP90 you said that it was "balanced, with a very organic timbre. fluid and almost analog. (I mean, a perfect Dac for me) in this one you said the same thing but without saying that it is "fluid and almost analog". Does that mean that the AP90 in terms of sound is better? if we talk about pure sound quality... in terms of balanced sound... what do you think is the best for less than 100 dollars of all the 4 and a half stars?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily better. I understand the perspective of sound preferences. Both AP90 and FC4 being well balanced and neutral, what really separate them is the energy and dynamics presentation of which AP90 is actually harder edged than FC4. Based on the way you describe your preference, then I would say that FC4 would suit you better or even Tanchjim Space

  • @shemulkarmoker2223
    @shemulkarmoker2223 Жыл бұрын

    Nice 👍

  • @BrenttttttMCMXC
    @BrenttttttMCMXC Жыл бұрын

    Thanks🎧🎶👍🎊

  • @danhoskins305
    @danhoskins3058 ай бұрын

    can anyone tell me how to set this up on an iplone 14?? I just opened it up and connected to my phone and it doesn't recognize it

  • @captainjack7593
    @captainjack7593 Жыл бұрын

    hello andy, I am having a choice between: Hiby FC4, Xduoo Link 2 Bal, iBasso DC03 Pro. I don't care about the price ! I like listening to music with lots of Bass, so in your opinion, if you arrange them in order, which one will give the best Bass between the 3 dongles above! Thank you Andy, wish your channel grows more and more!

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank You, if you want rich dynamics (which will make more exciting Bass responses), then DC03Pro it is, or Tempotec Sonata E44. The other dongles you mentioned are very neutral and as such will not boost any sound frequency

  • @captainjack7593

    @captainjack7593

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Thank Andy

  • @NEMEJEBAT777
    @NEMEJEBAT777 Жыл бұрын

    Happy New Year

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    😁

  • @matusjurcik6974
    @matusjurcik6974 Жыл бұрын

    hello Andy, using dongle DACs from the phone how much of a listed power output do I get from them compare to the usb from the PC? I definitely hear smaller soundstage but less artificially crips/bright and cleaner sound from the phone compare to the PC usb with a stock/generic usb cable, I dont hear difference in macro and micro dynamics though. Do I lose mW, current, voltage of the output or not? Can dongle DAC achieve those numbers only with enough power supply from the USB? Or does the power from the usb affect something else? Can I say, the weaker the listed dac output the more similar specs I get? (phone vs PC).

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    It depends on which USB class you are referring to. For Android devices, that runs on true USB 3.0 900mA power, phones like Samsung Galaxy S20 or Sony Xperia 1 iV or Xperia 1 iii (be wary that many phones listed as USB 3.0 but still running USB 2.0 PD), then the said phones will perform equal to laptops that uses the same USB tech. On a condition that you connect your dongle to the phones and use USB Exclusive mode, that is to bypass Android SRC (power throttling) and get Bitperfect too. Most USB 2.0 (250 mA) will still work fine, but of course as you would say it, sometimes they do sound a bit weaker when compared to desktop setup. The scaling factors, the higher the Vrms/mW a dongle is rated, then natively they will perform better with stronger USB power, but not so much for weaker spec dongles especially the ones with 1 Vrms limit

  • @matusjurcik6974

    @matusjurcik6974

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness thanks 😊, so as long as my ovidius cant work with the hiby usb exclusive mode and usb audio performance mode, I cant get the full power from it on the phone, am I right? Because despite usb being 3.0 it cant produce full power on stock settings right? PS: It actually doesnt work with the hiby app at all now 😅.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matusjurcik6974 You are correct. Unfortunately B1 can't work with the later versions.of HiBy USB Exclusive mode

  • @matusjurcik6974

    @matusjurcik6974

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness manufacturer of the ovidius thinks that problem could be in the stock cable, they will be sending new usb cable via linsoul to me, we will see. But I am quite sceptical about this.

  • @shahkhan110
    @shahkhan110 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy,.... how fc4 compares DAWN, keeping only Sound quality in consideration?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    FC4 is flatter neural, uncolored and DAWN is notably a bit more colored, energetic and vibrant. Technically they are pretty much similar

  • @Rohan_Kulkarni_
    @Rohan_Kulkarni_ Жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy, Could you please help me to understand what is measuement criteria for dac amp power? Vrms or mw ? Hiby FC4 output power : 340mw @ 32ohm & 3.3 Vrms Tanchjim Space output power : 230mW @32 ohm & 4 Vrms which is more powerful?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Both are applicable. Vrns is the absolute max number for voltage of the output, mW is the effective highest Watt within that voltage range, on measurement alone, FC4 is the more powerful unit with the most efficient wattage delivery despite Space having more voltage. However it also depends, some headphones especially the ones with very high impedance rating will work better with outright higher voltage especially if they have high sensitivity (high impedance, high sensitivity rating).High mW on the other hand works better for Magnetic Planars (for example) especially those that typically runs on Low Impedance, Low sensitivity

  • @d0nj03

    @d0nj03

    Жыл бұрын

    In this case both are telling you the same thing. Power = Voltage squared divided by impedance, so 0.340 Watts = (3.3*3.3 V) / 32 ohms. It's usually more useful if they tell us how an amp will perform both for high and for low impedances. For low impedance they will normally tell us the power in mW into 16 or 32 ohms, while for high impedances they will say either the power or voltage over 300 or 600 ohms, since the main limitation at high ohms is the ability for high voltage (while at low ohms the limitation is how high the current in mA can be before the device burns up). But since dongles aren't really made for driving 300+ ohm studio headphones they can just as well skip that part and provide only values for 32 ohms etc. (Though I still wish they provided more values like for 8 ohms for example, because Verum 1 planar magnetics also exist.)

  • @farsware
    @farsware Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Does this dongle is good replacement for old DAP like colorfly c10?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, especially if you are considering the route of using your Android phone (make sure you use USB Exclusive mode)

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek7772 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andy. I wonder why somebody would get the FC5 with only 4.4 and 125mW. Is it sonicaly more refined….? 😊💁‍♂️🙋‍♂️👍

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    I had the FC5, between FC5 and FC4, sound wise they are identical regardless 3.5mm or 4.4mm

  • @andresmansilla9699
    @andresmansilla9699 Жыл бұрын

    Saludos Andy. Buena revisión. Veo que este dongle es full decoder mqa. Que opinas de mqa? Es notoria la diferencia entre un render y un full decoder?.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Hola Andrés, y gracias! El MQA para FC4 es 16x, por lo que ya es bastante competente para la mayoría de los Tidal Masters. Sin embargo, no está designado como decodificador MQA completo (solo iFi Go Bar es un decodificador MQA completo). A pesar de eso, para todos los Tidal Master que he probado, el 16x es más que suficiente y no siento que la salida sea de menor calidad.

  • @andresmansilla9699

    @andresmansilla9699

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness gracias por la respuesta Andy. Una última consulta. La experiencia de sonido mejora usando cables balanceados en auriculares de 32 ohms y 110 db? Es notoria la mejora?. Gracias de antemano.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andresmansilla9699 My pleasure. It depends on what IEM you are using. For up to 32 Ohm and over 100dB, single ended 3.5mm is already great sounding, you may or may not hear much improvement when compared to 4.4mm BAL

  • @Trump-The-GREATEST
    @Trump-The-GREATEST4 ай бұрын

    Im fortunate that my Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G amazing phone has audio features galore. Build in amp, Dolby Atmos, volume gets very high, super clean and crisp sound specially when it's tuned by JBL all via the output build-in audio jack! And then my Bavsoynd DSP 1600w amp takes over doind the glorious sound output to my ears! 😎

  • @mirzarazwan07
    @mirzarazwan07 Жыл бұрын

    ❤️❤️

  • @fid7715
    @fid7715 Жыл бұрын

    Hello andy, i love VE Avani (Not really like abigail), if i wanna upgrade, what should i buy? Hiby FC4 or DC03Pro ?? Please answer (i only use 3.5mm)

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely DC03Pro, if you love Avani sound

  • @fid7715

    @fid7715

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Thank you

  • @mimimmo
    @mimimmo4 ай бұрын

    Hi, do you recommend this or the shanling ua4 for use with a sennheiser hd 600? The price is about the same but the hiby app seems to be a way better

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    4 ай бұрын

    The HIBY Music App works on any USB DAC/Amp dongles so it will work on either UA4 or FC4. Due to the extra features UA4, I would be more inclined to say go for UA4 instead, sound wise they are tuned similarly

  • @mimimmo

    @mimimmo

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I will try both before choosing

  • @davidbarbour5153
    @davidbarbour51532 ай бұрын

    hi thanks for the video. can I ask , I stream music using spotify. will it be worthwhile to use the FC4 to do this via my Samsung mobile ?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    2 ай бұрын

    My pleasure. Yes even with Spotify it will still provide better audio compared to the stock Samsung Audio

  • @davidbarbour5153

    @davidbarbour5153

    2 ай бұрын

    @@donglemadness Thanks, Ive just ordered a FC4. keep up the good work please 👍

  • @vishnus1451
    @vishnus14518 ай бұрын

    Which dac provide warm sort of sound singature under 150$???.... I bought dc03 pro and i returned it;was too bright for me......I am too treble sensitive....

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    8 ай бұрын

    Sound like you need something like iFi GO Link or Hidizs XO, if you find DC03Pro bright then you will find tons of other dongles to be even brighter because the top ranked dongles tend to extend further on the upper frequencies

  • @marekkrzyzanowski3531
    @marekkrzyzanowski3531 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, you promised to show how best to set up UAPP 😉

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    That would need another separate video, will come soon, a bit too busy with new year stuffs

  • @mokisan
    @mokisan Жыл бұрын

    As someone who used uapp. Is it not possible for me to use uapp and independently control the dongle dac?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes you can do that, just Max out on the dongle side Volume and then fully control using UAPP vol, you will need to adjust some settings in UAPP

  • @mokisan

    @mokisan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Thanks. What settings do I adjust in uapp to do that?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mokisan Sorry, it seems for UAPP for this type of dongle, disabling USB Volume control is the only way to let the host to change the volume. But works fine with HiBy Music App (Automatic Volume Mode)

  • @dfalekulo9138
    @dfalekulo9138 Жыл бұрын

    For the fc4 Having issues with tidal master quality through hiby, bass distorts regardless of device, with tidal also, whenever its on exclusive mode the issue happens

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @surdzo
    @surdzo Жыл бұрын

    As one of my favorite YT audio reviewer I would like to hear your opinion about which dongle sounds better between Hiby fc4 and Xduoo link 2 bal. I intend to use one of these (depending on your opinion) as a secondary dac/amp mainly for Sennheiser ie100PRO and Sennheiser ie 600. Btw my primary dongle dac/amp is questyle m15 which is magnificent sounding dac/amp especially in 4.4 but even in SE 3.5 it can run Neumann ndh20 and Sennheiser hd650 at decent levels, I have ordered balanced cables for both OTE so will see if M15 make them sound even better in balanced mode. But for now I would appreciate your opinion about Hiby FC4 vs Xduoo link 2 bal (probably new max version since they are same price for now) sound quality wise. Thank you very much and keep doing great and real life commissions. Cheers 🍻

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    With M15 already in your hand, not FC4 nor Link2 BAL can really match it in terms of sheers sonic quality and performances technically - that's the fact. But we are talking about three already great dongles and the margin of differences are paper thin at best (at this level, the rule of diminishing returns applies). Perhaps what Link2 BAL can offer better is slightly more power at 4 Vrms region and a not forgetting the wide open soundstage that will make even M15 felt narrower. FC4 on the other hand, is pretty much plying on similar path to M15 sound wise, maybe it has a tiny bit of dynamic energy to it (again due to more power at 4 Vrms). But if you ask me, consider trying a slightly different sound presentation from the likes of iBasso DC03Pro (a bit colored but freakingly fun), or HiBy FC6, for that amazing analogue sound that is creamy smooth yet still neutral and natural. I hope I am not making it even more confusing to you, cheers.

  • @surdzo

    @surdzo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness thank you, and no, quite opposite it’s not confusing :) So if I want similar sound signature (bit lower grade of course) than FC4 if I want bit different than Xduoo link 2 bal (soundstage wise). Concerning your review of Hiby FC6 I’m pretty sure that that is one of the best on the market but can’t see point purchasing same class dac/amp as M15 as secondary dac/amp and limit myself to SE3.5 (concerning using almost every single iem/OTE headphone via balanced cables. On top of it limiting myself to pretty low power output (because of it limiting myself to use it only for IEM). IMHO Hiby miss opportunity with fc6 to deliver “the perfect dongle dac/amp” sacrificing 4.4 bal and at least doubling the power if not tripling for few dollars more which is negligible considering the 300+ usd price tag. I was also considering ibasso 03Pro watching your review but I found lot of complaints on net about low quality (loosely) usb c connector same goes for new ibasso 04PRO. Thank you again. It will probably be FC4 since I’m in love with M15 especially in combination with Sennheiser ie600 it is definitely end game paring, for me at least :)

  • @surdzo

    @surdzo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Hi Andy, I have purchased Hiby FC4 and Xduoo link 2 bal max (new model). I disappointed by Xduoo cause they send me defective product (problems with connectors both 3.5, 4.4 jacks and usb C so I ask seller to refund me money) you have to push both sides one towards another to hear the sound and if not than there is no sound or very bad static sound (noise). But anyway (holding both sides on Xduoo I manage to listen couple of dozen songs and compare to FC4). For me FC4 has much better sound (to be honest maybe because Xduoo is defective vise not just because connectors but in general) but the sound coming from FC4 is amazing!!! and then I compared to my Questyle M15 and you are completely right, there is no more than 10% difference in sound if that. you can only feel that difference when using expensive IEM (like ie600) and Headphones (Neumann NDH20) but with cheaper (ie100pro) there is almost no difference especially in SE jack. So the only thing I disagree with you is that this DAC is 4 1/2* this DAC is easy 5* DAC considering performance and price (usualy 70-100 usd) and is a steal for that money. If I don't know the price of FC4 and make A-B comparison with M15 I would probably pay 200 usd for FC4 it is really that good IMO. no doubt M15 is better DAC but is maybe 40-50 usd better and not 150usd better for sure.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@surdzo Sorry to hear about that issue with xDuoo. Hopefully you will get it refunded properly. And thanks for sharing your feedbacks on the FC4. For the record, I would still recommend FC4 for anyone looking for transparent Hi-Fi sort of output especially if budget is a concern. But ultimately, the reason M15 is a 5 Star rated dongle it was because of that tiny refinement it offers. As I always reminded many that I talked to, in audio world, the higher tier we go, we are paying a fortune for marginal improvements which could translate into 3-5% at most - this rule of diminishing returns is real

  • @surdzo

    @surdzo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness agree with you. In my opinion for IEM and HP under 300-400 usd people should not have to spend more than 100usd for dongle dac/amp. If they consider purchasing more expensive IEM/HP than ok they can consider about something cost 250-300 usd. After that difference in sound quality is less than 1% at every 100 usd increments in price so not worth. In my opinion midrange priced dac 140-190 is the worst option at what I have heard so far, ok there are some exceptions but in general that is the rule. Next I will order iBasso 04PRO and decide what to keep out of two (FC4 or 04PRO) and at the end maybe both :)

  • @wilhelmpaulm
    @wilhelmpaulm Жыл бұрын

    For people confused, fc4 was updated to es9219c same as ibasso DC06. So if you can't but DC06 because it's out of stock you may want to check this out. This also has volume buttons.

  • @skyhero1888

    @skyhero1888

    Жыл бұрын

    I was confused too because FC 3 have ES 9281 Pro dac FC4 have ES 9219 C I have the FC 3 and the FC 4 but can’t hear any difference. I use it with iPad Pro 12,9 M2 and Philips Fidelio X3 and in some days with the Meze 109 Pro

  • @ridhoputra8603

    @ridhoputra8603

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@skyhero1888Same I have both, and I don't think the difference in sound is too stark. I have an iem letshuoer S12 pro, I have compared the two dacs, but it's a little difficult to tell the difference

  • @skyhero1888

    @skyhero1888

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ridhoputra8603 stark is a German word 😃 Yes same here, can’t hear any difference

  • @Alxtorr77
    @Alxtorr77 Жыл бұрын

    hola Andy! me encanta tu canal!! compre ese dongle de hiby y fue horrible.. dejo de funcionar una semana despues, dando una luz roja tenue.. el servicio post-venta de hiby tambien pesimo...lo compre para mover planars via la salida balanceada... pero al final creo que tendre que decidir entre el dongle de Tanchjim que es una compañia confiable con controles de calidad, o por truthear shio.. aunqie tambien tuve problemas con truthear con su hexa...

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    ¡Gracias por su apoyo!. Recomiendo encarecidamente iBasso DC03Pro, funcionará muy bien para sus necesidades. Pero si necesita tomas BAL, entonces Tanchjim Space o SHIO también funcionarán muy bien. No te puedes equivocar con ninguno de ellos.

  • @Alxtorr77

    @Alxtorr77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness tengo el dc03 pro.. Me encanta! Pero quiero probar mis planares (timeless, s12), y algunos híbridos que son algo difícil de mover vía salida balanceada.. Posiblemente me decida por el space

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Alxtorr77 Descubrirá que el BAL de 4,4 mm y la potencia absoluta no son el factor definitivo para obtener un gran sonido. ¡Pero sí, Space también sería una gran elección!

  • @Alxtorr77

    @Alxtorr77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness estoy de acuerdo contigo. De hecho antes de que se dañara mi hiby, disfrutaba más el sonido del DC03Pro.. También tengo curiosidad por escuchar el cayin RU6, pero todavía no puedo llegar a ese precio.

  • @skyhero1888
    @skyhero1888 Жыл бұрын

    in the specs they say 340mw+340mw in balanced mode and 110mw+110mw in single end mode it is mean it have 680mw in balanced mode and 220mw in single end mode. I see this in many dac/ amps specs but never understand it. Please can someone help me ?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    As far as i can understand, the mW rating is always viewed as per channel. So 340 mW is 340 mW, not 680 mW as total. mW is basically the wattage rating for the amplification power of the output, which can be anything from 2 to 5 or higher VRMS (voltage), see this as the correlation between Horsepower and Torque, Horsepower is the absolute volume of power and Torque as the leverage of the voltage

  • @skyhero1888

    @skyhero1888

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness ah okay when I have a headphone with a cable on both sides it have 110mw on right and left side. Is this power always there ? or it have something to do with the volume I hear ,higher volume more mw. Or the headphone only take the mw he need and no more . Sorry my English is not the best.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skyhero1888 The cable being cable does not have it's own power. The wattage and voltage is always from the sources. The rating you see on cables are just an indication how much they can handle optimally. So power is only when you turn on the sources. mW and VRMS is always different from one device to another based on how they are built, so louder volume does not automatically determine higher mW, all can be quite different from one device to another

  • @gilblax8764
    @gilblax87644 ай бұрын

    Hi. Are you using a Mi 9T?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes and still using it

  • @danhoskins305
    @danhoskins3058 ай бұрын

    What’s the best DAC dongle for an iPhone?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    8 ай бұрын

    I have stopped using iPhones since 2020 so I would not know what's the best for it now. But assuming that the new iPhones supports USB Type C, then many options to choose from thankfully. I would personally recommend HIBY FC6 or iBasso DC04Pro or Cayin RU7

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek77727 ай бұрын

    Hello Andy, I just received FC4, the sound is great with my Symphonium Meteor, but on Iphone when I pass certain volume, the phone can't handle it and stops the music I thought I could download Hiby music app and play with a high low gain. So the app just doesn't work I did my login but I don't know how to sync it with apple music and it doesn't react to FC4, I can't see this option exclusive Usb mode. The app is empty, not receptive and nothing is happening 😮😆❓💪

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    7 ай бұрын

    It would be difficult for me to suggest a fix because I don't even use iPhone or Apple Music services. You may need to ask this question to people who actually use iPhones and they probably are more knowledgeable with it

  • @jaroslavfricek7772

    @jaroslavfricek7772

    7 ай бұрын

    ⁠ok Thank you

  • @cgdogan
    @cgdogan Жыл бұрын

    you'll break the tubes :D

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL true. I can be so careless with stuffs

  • @TakeItToMind
    @TakeItToMind Жыл бұрын

    Having a very hard time choosing between the FC4, S9 Pro, and TANCHJIM Space. My main use case is Sennheiser IE300s on a desktop/android tab/android phone. Would greatly appreciate your recommendation!

  • @TakeItToMind

    @TakeItToMind

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess what I'm asking is your opinion on the best sub $100 USB DAC 😅

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    That's easy, iBasso DC03Pro for anything under $100. The only #donglemadness 5 Star rated dongle that is cheaper than $100

  • @TakeItToMind

    @TakeItToMind

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness thanks appreciate it!

  • @d0nj03

    @d0nj03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Sadly the iBasso doesn't take a microphone signal, so it's not a full replacement for the smartphone audio jack, which is the main problem that has created such an explosive dongles market today. I wouldn't consider any dongle without mic signal the best at any price level.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@d0nj03 Unfortunately, the majority of top tiered dongles does not have MIC support, so you are limited to ultra compact dongles like Abigail Pro or most JCallys

  • @user-se9sf7lg1n
    @user-se9sf7lg1n2 ай бұрын

    7hz salnotes dioko with hiby fc4... How it would sound like?? Cz dioko is also analytical sharp sounding iem... ❤

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    2 ай бұрын

    Dioko sounds better with Colorfly CDA-M1P or Earfun UA100. Or Moondrop DAWN Pro

  • @rayhanahmed2686

    @rayhanahmed2686

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks buddy.

  • @mikkotasani4033
    @mikkotasani4033 Жыл бұрын

    Hey sir andy what do you choose fc4 or dc04 pro?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    I prefer DC04Pro over FC4

  • @mikkotasani4033

    @mikkotasani4033

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness last question sir btr5 2021 or dc04 pro

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikkotasani4033 I can't speak for BTR5 as I never use it. But yes DC04Pro is what I would choose

  • @birumutiara2169
    @birumutiara2169 Жыл бұрын

    fc4 vs tanjchim space which one has wider sound stage and better imaging? thanks in advance

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    FC4, but the differences are very sublime and only apparent on highly resolving IEMs

  • @birumutiara2169

    @birumutiara2169

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness thank you for a very fast replying.. btw happy new year 2023

  • @ralphbrewster3241
    @ralphbrewster32418 ай бұрын

    Anyone else have power issues when connected to iPhone ? If iPhone battery at 50% or lower it stops powering the fc4.

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    8 ай бұрын

    I think best to mention which version of iPhone you use, then easier for others to help

  • @1st_Nook
    @1st_Nook Жыл бұрын

    HNY 2023 🎉

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    🎉

  • @CervezasObsonMex
    @CervezasObsonMex5 күн бұрын

    VS MOONDROP DAWN PRO VS FIIO KA13?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    5 күн бұрын

    Get ONIX Alpha instead

  • @CervezasObsonMex

    @CervezasObsonMex

    5 күн бұрын

    @@donglemadness Aprettiate but that is twice more expensieve ;( 2,000 mexican pesos My budget was only 1200. Moondrop is un 900 ka13 is in 1150 and the fc4 is in 1000 mexican pesos

  • @muhamadsyazwan5170
    @muhamadsyazwan5170 Жыл бұрын

    Haish seram tgk tube terbalik tu

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    😅

  • @DeathWalkthroughs
    @DeathWalkthroughs Жыл бұрын

    Hello my friend! This or Truthear Shio?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    FC4 is you like crisp sound, SHIO if you prefer smoother presentation. Both already equally great

  • @DeathWalkthroughs

    @DeathWalkthroughs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donglemadness Thanks!!! I'm inclined to pick Shio... Do you think it can drive a planar Tangzu Heyday?

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeathWalkthroughs More than enough

  • @juanito_sampang
    @juanito_sampang Жыл бұрын

    Happy New Year

  • @donglemadness

    @donglemadness

    Жыл бұрын

    🥳