Richard gives off big sociopath/psychopath vibes. Like, legit red flags. No empathy, hyper violent and a gross sense of arrogance.

People like Richard are so extreme in their child hating. I’ve never wanted kids, but I love kids. I find his hatred and disgust for children very bizarre. There’s nothing wrong with not wanting kids. But there is something wrong with an adult insulting and being hateful towards children.

@JennRighter

2 жыл бұрын

That being said, Richard did nothing in those clips to get channel strikes. Yes, it’s vile and creepy. But he didn’t deserve to have his channel struck for it.

@helens.undead666

2 жыл бұрын

I always say I hate kids but mostly as a joke lmao bc people never believe me when I say I don’t want kids or think I will change my mind so I always resort to saying I hate kids for them to understand I really don’t want them 💀 but I feel like for richard that type of hate can only come from some place deeper, like he has some type of unresolved childhood trauma that he really needs to reflect on, I feel he didn’t like his own childhood

@truthbetold8233

2 жыл бұрын

I think even most antinatalists wouldn't hate on a parent being proud of their kid. Imo that behavior has little to do with ideology and more to do with being a terrible person.

@victoriagodinez79

2 жыл бұрын

@@JennRighter Its probably because of an unconcious hate/ jealous towards kids who had a caring and loving family while he doesn't have one. Its less about veganism and more about hating kids.

@thatsalt1560

2 жыл бұрын

@@helens.undead666 I have children. I was the youngest in a family with two kids and was extremely uncomfortable around children and I really felt I didn't like them. No experience with kids, simply. Obviously my perspective has changed now, but ... I so wish people would stop asking why someone doesn't have children, or will they have children or when will you, do they have children??? Leave people alone. If they have kids you will notice. If they don't they don't and why is their business. If they want to bring it up or if they are asking for your opinion, then fine, but in all other cases, get another hobby.

I've never understood why Vegan Gains had subscribers--I tried to watch some of his stuff and found zero appeal. I'm a fan of ignoring people rather than deplatforming them.

VG has talked about his childhood, and said that his parents were really pushy, and he never felt good enough. That can explain his reaction to seeing a dad being proud of his kid for something so small.

@bdarecords_

2 жыл бұрын

@Abe Froman There are only rare instances when I ever feel the need to replyy. I don't care about any person in this video that got recommended by the algorithm. When you reply to a speculation/hypothesis about someone's behaviour with "boo hoo he is a lazy unemployable POS" you are taking an anti-science stand and you imply relativising of human crimes. The way science, philosophy, history or basically any humancentric field (but also literally anything else too) in society look at things (at least in our day and age with our modern understanding of things), is that we try to understand a behaviour, phenomen or something else by unveiling it's mechanism or history. The origin. Also, by our current understanding, determinism is likely. There is no free will, only emergence in the brain which simulated an "ego" (according to consensus in neurobiology) and we are basically only a product of our genes, environment and culture. That's a generalization fallacy though and also a bit ignorant, so I'm not really saying that. There is more. It's complicated. But your statement is very simple-minded. Because it insults the user Ruth E. who just expressed their opinion/understanding and you also indirectly insult anyone that tries to help people or reduce crime. Because a mindset like that is what most of authority figures in science and politics try to reduce since decades. It's backwards and reactionary. You don't reduce white supremacy (for example!) when you just call people who adapted this belief a POS. That's the laziest reaction and way to handle that. And you personally also shouldn't really be emotional about random people doing random things. There will always be people you don't like or whom behaviour makes you angry. When you want to feel less anger about that, actively try to help others. Just expressing your anger helps neither you nor others. Greetings.

@bdarecords_

2 жыл бұрын

@Abe Froman What a short way to say absolutely nothing of any value what so ever. :> But jokes aside, your reaction is very understandable. I do sympathize with you. You're a cool person. But beware that if you don't try to understand constructive criticism, you will eventually only hinder your own progress and growth. If you actually found my comments silly, you could've explained why. But I doubt that you thought so. The opposite actually: My comment made perfect sense for you, hence this exact "triggered" response. Needless to say, neither am I a child nor did I write "absolutely nothing". Quite the opposite: I explained you and the others, why your comment does not accomplish anything. It is perfectly fine to disagree, but my comment was meant for the thread, not you specifically. So if you want to call others "silly childs", go ahead and behave like an adult yourself. Just ignore these comments. Control your impulses. One should not debate to feel better or superior. In this respect, what you wrote was neither a fair analysis nor did it have substance. Randomly calling people names or insultung them without any context or further explanation is not very goal-orientated. And doing so as a reply to an insightful comment, directly insults the person (user Ruth) who wrote that comment. When I wrote that I did not mean this as an insult, I was serious. I am totally on your side here. When you learn that these kind of comments are not an effective way of expressing how you feel about certain persons or actions, you will also learn that this understanding can help not only you but also the people around you and it can actually prevent anger/suffering. And if we listen to people like Ruth we can indirectly reduce "lazy unemployed POS" and their "unwanted behaviour". This is how most succesful people approach topics and this is also how most interventions work, even things as simple as road signs.Thank you for understanding. And to add some value because this is what you're after: Trying to explain someone's behaviour is not judging or rating it. If profilers try to understand the motives of a serial killer, they do not approve or have sympathy but they still try to understand WHY people act and think a certain way. And there is also this big wall of subjective morality. I really did not mean you any harm when I replied. I thought you would benefit from this perspective. I would be happy if I had a strong and simple opinion and someone came and tole me "wait, there is more". Value is also a human construct and very subjective. How can you decide whether a common is of value? Seems odd to me. I hope this time you actually learned something and evaluate your behaviour and communication. That would be a win for both of us. Because when people confront you with evidence or logic that contradicts your position, you change it. If you don't, you are equal to a random person shouting random nonsense and why should anyone listen to you. Embrace different perspectives and disagreements. Don't shy away from critic. It will make you weak. Enjoy being wrong and learn. You are nice person and you deserve criticism :) Greetings.

@bdarecords_

2 жыл бұрын

@Abe Froman I still have sympathy for you. Your accusations and insults do not change that. You only make your own day worse that way. If you came back to this exact thread some years ago, you would certainly understand that your approach and answers are ignorant. But that is fine too. It's not like anyone should be mad at people for being in another situation. Neither the person you called an unemployed "POS" nor you. There are reasons why you act that way. But I will repeat myself: I can assure that none of my replies meant to harm you. If you interpreted them that way, that is on you.

@bdarecords_

2 жыл бұрын

@Abe Froman Thank you for your concern. I really do appreciate that although I suspect you wrote that for a different reason which shows that you did not read or understand the previous comments. Words are goal-orientated. When we say "person x has a problem/there is something wrong with person x" we label it wrong to communicate either a problem that awaits to be cured or a threat. When you really (not rhetorically speaking) think there is something wrong with someone, do not mock that person (which goes even further back to the first comment when you labeled someone else "pos", interesting how we perceive ourselves and others, right?) Your comments were really interesting. My first comment controlled the way you would reply. No matter what I write now, you are in a certain "mode". This is really good anecdotal evidence for the Rosenthal-Effect. Thing is: I was expecting you would get the hint. There is always a perfect play when it comes to communicating messages but some people need really specific words and tones to change their attitude. The input decides the response (at least when the responding person can't filter informations properly and assigns emotion to logical arguments) But I don't mind. I actually think this discussion was really helpful for you and when I can help people that easily, why not. If it makes you happy to ignore everything I wrote and insult me like an angry child without manners: Go ahead. I really don't mind. I also enjoyed our conversation so far. :) It's like a puzzle game. You write short comments but there is so much to read bertween the lines and so much to see about how you think. btw offtopic: I don't really know what you mean by that "likes his own comment", maybe that's the language barrier. I would also not prefer when you use "him" to write about me. I use Yt on my mobile phone. I don't "like" any comment or video as far as I'm aware of. I will "like" your comment if that helps you. If you mean something else by that, I did not pick that up. Like as in likewise or "enjoying the comment"? I mean I'm not proud of random yt-comments. No not really. Probably even the opposite. Because this is a bad plattform for a good text and also a bad context for that. Anyway I used to be like you but when aging and experience comes, you will (hopefully) understand that being negative towards others and intentionally not trying to understand anything besides your own horizont will not lead you to success or satisfication. You will agree eventually so be like you are now and feel anger and arrogance but when you embrace that you will see yourself drown. You are already feeling insecure according to the usage of a third persona: You are looking for an audience to help you and confirm you that it's me who's wrong and childish. But there won't always be an audience. It's YOUR life. At first I just wanted to lecture you but I feel you really need someone to talk to now. We can chat on discord if you need help It will get better. If you don't want to continue our conversation, stop replying. When you reply you communicate that you want to continue. Because your answers do not contain any arguments so it seems you want to banter or mock. And if you benefit from that we can continue. greetings and best regards Abe.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

@Abe Froman can't read and calls others lazy.😂

My sister has ASPD (Clinical term for sociopathy) and I would just like to add that sociopaths can be functioning members of society and even good friends. They have a limited capacity for emotional empathy, but they do have cognitive empathy and they can realize that certain things hurt. Some also have the problem of just not caring, but they can be taught the repercussions of hurting other people for themselves. Most sociopaths are also able to feel emotional empathy, but only towards people they are very close with. My sister is amazing despite her flaws and people with ASPD deserve to be loved as well. I just wanted to add that, sorry.

@nikanh9946

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I studied some psychology and university and there’s a lot of stigma when it comes to this topic and there’s a lot of misinformation out there.

@mimmyrose2970

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikanh9946 Aww, thanks for taking the time to read it 🥰

@natalielloyd9200

2 жыл бұрын

UV needs to pin this comment!!! ❤️

@mimmyrose2970

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB I'm sorry, what part of this is at all relevant to my comment?

@thatsalt1560

2 жыл бұрын

Don't apologise. It is very important that people know that sociopaths rarely are villains.

I think Greg was pointing out that a person (who built their channel on being vegan) laughing at someone's death gives people the impression that vegans care more about animals than people. Vegan gains has openly admitted to this mentality. In a speciesist society, yes this is a turn off for people.

@UnnaturalVegan

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and misanthropy is a trait some high-profile vegans like Richard and Gary Yourofsky not only admit to but are proud of. I think that's more showcased by his fishing comments, and I fear more vegans than I would like to admit also hold such a childish view of morality (possibly due to innate misanthropic personality traits). But I think the yo-yoing thing just looks like a sad man who has to find fault with anything, no matter how innocuous.

@usenlim

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnnaturalVegan childish view of morality, is that a thing in philosophy?

@usenlim

2 жыл бұрын

@@KG9551 Do you refer to Piaget's theory of moral development?

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB 😋🧀🍖🍗🥩🥓🍔🍕🌭🥚🍳🧈🍤🍣🦀🦞🦐🦑🦪🍯🍼

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB you're the one worried about your carbon footprint and things like that, so what about you stop virtue signalling and you do the only usufull thing you can do to stop your carbon footprint, go terminate yourself

Vegan Gains and Onision have the same energy and they’re both terrifying

@milknhoneyhoney

2 жыл бұрын

YEAH I can't help but think of Onion every time I hear Vegan Gains speak and I hate it

@Moody.Morgan

2 жыл бұрын

Ehh I can kinda see where your coming from, but Onision is a poser, where Gains is 1000% the real deal Psycho

@nickhutcheson8580

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB I'm just gonna keep reporting your comments lol

@IzzyHendrix

2 жыл бұрын

i think VG might have a minor leg up on Onision for at least having empathy for animals. I don't think Onision cares about literally anything..

A grown man calling a kid a loser is the actual LOSER!!

Vegan Gains got cancelled because he lost his mind when he saw the child holding up a fish he caught. He called the little boy a piece of sh!+ and said he hoped the child died just like his father. I think he even said he hoped he died soon. That's why he got cancelled. I love this channel so hopefully you didn't realize the extent of his abuse and didn't just white wash what actually happened.

@bryanhill5382

2 жыл бұрын

Same here.. I used to love her content, seemed like actual non biased information. But she’s completely defending horrible actions and trying to white wash the situation

@TomuCow

2 жыл бұрын

its not like he went after the kid directly he deletes them streams and someone decided to record it and upload it for the youtube leeches to make videos and profit of it so yeah.....

@Holio88

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanhill5382 What does white wash mean?

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

Definitely agree that you're not supposed to diagnose or speculate about someone's mental health BUT I also am a firm believer that it's okay to call attention to a *potential* issue if the signs are there and with Gains, his extreme, loud & irrational hatred for children and babies, coupled with his detachment from normal human emotions also point to signs of early childhood issues. I'll bet anything if we had a playbook of his early life, we'd see what went wrong

@somerandomzombie7536

2 жыл бұрын

That's right on the money!

@Nobody-Nowhere

2 жыл бұрын

He has quite openly discussed how abusive his childhood home was. But only after he got married, the real downhill began. Because his wife is most likely a borderline who dumps all her emotions on him. Its quite clear that veganism for him is just the high ground he needs to be judge others. Its an outlet for him, otherwise all that anger would be directed at himself. Well, in a way it is directed at himself. Like hating a father for being proud of his son, he is attacking his own libidinal wished of being loved by his parents. And castrating himself, is also really masochistic. But also something that can be rationalized by ideology. Quite common in the vegan movement, a lot of vegans hide all sorts of irrational behavior behind the weil of "ideology".

@princesseville6889

2 жыл бұрын

He is REALLY honest about the shit his parents did to him in you youth. He was raised very abusive, physically and mentally - of course he is not the nicest and most emphatic guy out there. Also, vasectomy is a good option when you dont want kids.

@mangosteph4464

2 жыл бұрын

What a contradicting statement.

@-MaryPoppins-

2 жыл бұрын

Mommy issues. THIS is what happens when children aren’t loved the way they are supposed to be loved. He clearly received zero care, considering he is incapable of empathy.

Not to nitpick, obv, but there are huge differences between sociopaths and psychopaths and you cant really use them interchangeably

@denied7616

2 жыл бұрын

since none of these terms are actually medically accurate, it doesn't really matter that much

@kyraserbedya3292

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say this too

@kyraserbedya3292

2 жыл бұрын

@@denied7616 sociopath Is an unofficial term to refer to a person with aspd an actual personality disorder. I do not like when people use sociopath and psychopath interchangeably cause it does give a stigma to people with aspd but that’s just my personal thoughts I’m guessing cause I have someone in my family with aspd that I am extremely protective of and am sick of people making out like they are dangerous or evil.

@JiraiyaSama86

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyraserbedya3292 it doesn't help with the frequent portrayal from the media, where they tend to portray low functioning individuals from both groups.

@denied7616

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyraserbedya3292"Hervey M. Cleckley, an American psychiatrist, influenced the initial diagnostic criteria for antisocial personality reaction/disturbance in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), as did American psychologist George E. Partridge. The DSM and International Classification of Diseases (ICD) subsequently introduced the diagnoses of antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) and dissocial personality disorder (DPD) respectively, stating that these diagnoses have been referred to (or include what is referred to) as psychopathy OR sociopathy." Even in medical settings, those terms been known to be used interchangeably- with some people preferring "sociopathy" to have sociological origin and environmental risk factors and "psychopathy" to be biological and inherent to the individual. Some reseachers even have their own definitions and basically it all comes down to: both these terms means more or less the same, because it's a lazy way of saying someone is lacking morality, empathy and guilt. they're not accurate and can be misleading, so it's not worth arguing about since everyone can interpret those two terms differently and won't be necessarily wrong.

My ex-friend was recently diagnosed as a sociopath. It explained a lot of things that happened when we were friends and the drama that ensued. I just hope people liker her and Vegan Gains get help that they need because this isn't the way to live one's life. Hatred is the worst feeling ever. It never feels right in your gut and it doesn't feel great waking up hating the world. He needs to find something positive in his life and take a detour and self-explore a bit.

@5p674

2 жыл бұрын

There is no cure for sociopaths.

@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR

2 жыл бұрын

@Aero Dynamix How does hate solve anything at the end of the day? It doesn't feel good to be hateful all the time.

@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR

2 жыл бұрын

@@5p674 I know that but there are therapies that could help them integrate into society better and opportunities for self-fulfillment and improvement available. It's a personality disorder. My mom has one which I won't disclose and she's made many improvements in her life in order to held her form stronger, healthier relationships.

@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR

2 жыл бұрын

@Aero Dynamix -_- Am I talking to an adult because you really sound like a child.

@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR

2 жыл бұрын

@Aero Dynamix Who am I hating again? Constructive criticism isn't hate btw.

To be fair, John was Greg’s friend. So I can see why he’s defensive

@za_zi_a

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Absolutely. Greg's reactions are normal and understandable.

@angeliparraguirre7329

2 жыл бұрын

True that makes sense.

@maybetheearthdoesntevenexi6282

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB I sincerely hope you're a bot. I really do. I sincerely hope no human being would actually respond that way.

@Mido1025_J

2 жыл бұрын

@@maybetheearthdoesntevenexi6282 ignore this vegan egg IT IS seeking negative attention from others🤣

@Mido1025_J

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB since you’ve been posting nonsense I’m talking about you with a “nonsense language”. no I’m not going to apologize and delete my account,you better start living in a cave and turn your phone off, electricity is bad for the environment and you still kill and harm animals though you don’t eat them through being dumb, now you can delete yourself from the internet, leave your house and live in a forest if you’re such a saint

I feel like you really glossed over the fact that he said he hoped the child died like his father because of the fishing pic…

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

She said that though , not directly because that shit is really dark..but she did acknowledge how horrible gains statements were

@oklahomaproud6665

2 жыл бұрын

@@VeganSanatani she made it sound like all he said was that the kid was stupid and nerdy or whatever. When in reality, he literally wished death upon a child

Why did you leave out the part where VG wished that John's son would die the same way his father did? Hard to believe that wasn't on purpose since that was the worst thing he said.

@blissrunner

2 жыл бұрын

Wow really? That's harsh.. Although his son should really check for blood clot issues. John Meadows was diagnosed with 'Idiopathic Myointimal Hyperplasia' (basically tumor in his Mesenteric vessels) in 2005, around age 34. Hopefully it's nothing hereditary... since it could be a dangerous family trait

5:20 the most creepy, psychotic, evil actual genuine laugh I think I've ever heard. There was joy in that.

I remember years ago Vegan Gains uploaded a video with a clip he filmed of his grandfather dying from a heart attack and then saying (not word for word) but that essentially it was his fault he died because he chose to consume animal products. And Vegan Gains chose to upload that clip to "send a message" or something twisted of that nature.

@bootsandcats1501

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that shit too. How fucking awful can someone be

@angeliparraguirre7329

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember people talking about it too

@PlsWaLuigiDomMe

2 жыл бұрын

Not only is it immoral it is not even a logical argument. Like I’m guessing his grandfather was an elderly man at that point? How does an old man dying of heart attack prove eating animals is wrong? Do Vegans live forever?

@user-rn5dl6tf8r

2 жыл бұрын

It's because his Grandpa abused him as a kid lmao

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

Richard is 30 and Rollerblades and tells a 12 year old who Is good at Yo-Yo a loser😂 Now that is a true loser.

@ttmusicchannel013

2 жыл бұрын

What has age got to do with that? We all hopefully turn 30 once. It's not even old, chill out.

@AFVfan1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ttmusicchannel013 You missed the point. What Nick was trying to say is the fact that a grown man is bullying a child. It’s bad enough when Richard gets defensive towards people his own age, but to target a kid is a whole new level of douchebaggery.

@ttmusicchannel013

2 жыл бұрын

@@Autisticwanderer It actually didn't. I get it but still, we all hit the 30 eventually. 30 always gets used with such a negative stigma. "30 year old still gaming", "30 year old still living with his parents" and so on, when its not even old.

I couldn't watch 1,000 Ways to Die. I really didn't like the way they portrayed the deaths. I also cannot watch 'fail' videos. I legit feel the impacts.

@Karolina-ux9gt

4 ай бұрын

Tbh I disagree with the part of the video where she states over and over again ‘come on, we all laughed at those topics’ because for me it’s a big fat no. Maybe it’s because I’m a couple of years younger than her and my generation was taught more sensitivity but still, for me and my friends that would be completely looked down on.

Testosterone and other anabolics also increase risk of heart attack, someone who exercises streneously even with a healthy diet is also increasing the risk of heart attack, So there's a lot of confounding factors. Genetics also play a role so we may never know

@JiraiyaSama86

2 жыл бұрын

As someone pointed out, there's risks in everything. It's simply a matter of assessing how much risk one is willing to take, and that we shouldn't let some random studies dictate for us. Especially since we can find studies that can say the complete opposite of another. Essentially, you can find studies that say anything. Rather than question the sources, we should read it, if we're able to, and analyze everything in it, including how it's conducted, what it may have missed, and check it against others, and then see if anything makes sense, using what you know about the subject.

@CanisLupus1987

2 жыл бұрын

True

@gmnotyet

2 жыл бұрын

Meadows died from a PULMONARY EMBOLISM, blood clots going to the lungs.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

I stopped watching him a long time ago because of his lack of empathy.

@staceysharee9387

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr, I used to be subscribed to his channel.

@samuelclayhills3298

2 жыл бұрын

Coward

@jasonito23

2 жыл бұрын

I heard about him. Watch a few of his videos and was like, "Nope. Not feeling him at all. "

@Mamazephis

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelclayhills3298 who him or Erica?

Sounds like Vegan gains suffers from Complex trauma, a hard to treat condition. He has other issues, but if someone has symptoms like feeling for animals more than people - when you have been traumatized by a parent as a child... Complex trauma not psychopathy.

@infinitum8558

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he literally said, "Maybe it's because people have always hurt me and animals didn't"

@darthsidius9631

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed complex trauma with Asperger's perhaps?

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Animal products and cooked food are toxic and in the long run deadly. Humans are fruit eaters by nature. Watch Douglas Graham and Loren Lockman for more details. Postscript: All of my posts are 100% correct. I am not interested in the opinion of anybody. And I will no longer respond to any insolent idiot and to any ungrateful idiot.

I’ve never wished death upon a child. I’ve never wanted to see a child suffer. I have something called empathy. And, a moral core.

@lynx9704

2 жыл бұрын

Except when it comes to your boyfriend/fiance/husband...that's when you're a complete narcississtic sociopath.

I remember Richard having a moment of realization that causing this much drama was really self destructive for him...but I guess he's back at it again.

@AnDr3w066

2 жыл бұрын

Because without it he has no viewing public

@watermelon1221

2 жыл бұрын

nah that was just because of his first strike

@reflex9238

2 жыл бұрын

Does make me wonder if he puts up an act at this point. Since I do recall a time period where he was just being calm and not really doing much in terms of raging.

He’s sooo mean-spirited. I never understood how he had such a following in the first place.

@charliedillon1400

2 жыл бұрын

Blue haired haters on college campuses.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the debates he takes part in is great, I know that he is really mean guy but to his credit he is good in debating.

Christ, I had such a visceral reaction hearing him cackle at that footage of a misguided Meadows saying he's hopeful for his heart or whatever. That is not gallows humour. Like ok, I can see the unfortunate humour in a "ah geez, bad luck mate. If only you knew" kind of way. But to find it THAT hilarious that some poor sod has died? Especially so recently after their passing? That maniacal laugh just made my skin crawl and my stomach drop.

@gmnotyet

2 жыл бұрын

Because you were watching EVIL in real time and you knew it.

@princesseville6889

2 жыл бұрын

Geez, i am going straight to hell, but that clip is 10/10 hilarious, the funniest shit i saw in weeks. I cant help it, its so damn funny.

@zen-sufi

2 жыл бұрын

@@princesseville6889 Your name suits you.

@t.o.4251

2 жыл бұрын

It's the "brb going to hell" laugh you usually have with the mic off.

Wasn't he taking anger management at some point? Also, isn't being a sociopath different from being a psychopath?

@TriggerHappy923

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Sociopaths are made, psychopaths are born. There’s a lot more nuance but that the simplified version.

@taylorhillard4868

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the two are pretty different. You can see in him talking about it that he's just talking out of his arse. Also, if it were true in any regard, the lack of empathy that is characteristic of the diagnosis extends to animals as well. So we know he's full of shite. I don't know all that much about him but if I had to throw out a random guess, I'd say he probably has more of a mechiavelian personality type with misanthropic views/tendencies, not sociopathy or psychopathy. Mechiavelianism is somewhat related to psychopathy, but has better self control and can also feel empathy in certain ways. It isn't a disorder per se, its a personality type. Misanthropy is the missing piece that would explain why he does not feel empathy for humans, but is capable of feeling those emotions towards animals. Again, this would not be possible if he was a psychopath.

@KG9551

2 жыл бұрын

Psychopath isn’t an official diagnosis, sociopathy (antisocial personality disorder) is. They share a lot of the same traits, but it differs from one expert to the next. Psychopaths tend to have charisma and excel at fitting into society while sociopaths have more difficulty hiding their personality traits.

@Olivetree80

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he's not a psychopath, psychopaths lack emotional depth and wouldn't care so much about animal rights issues. Not defending him by the way.

@lorikpi8576

2 жыл бұрын

Sociopaths are made, not born as was mentioned previously, plus they are capable of some sort of empathy and/or remorse unlike psychopaths. And as a result they usually have severe anger issues. So VG is most likely a sociopath, not psychopath.

People like Richard DO give vegans a bad name. He vilifies people at a personal level for not being vegan in a rather inappropriate way. It's not the yo-yo comments it's laughing at the guy's death because he ate meat and "had it coming." There are vegans that are like fhis, maybe not as brutal, but the sentiments are there and expressed. Don't get me wrong, we see that in the non-Vegan community as well - celebrating death for the unvaccinated for instance - it's gross. The reason it reflects even worse on vegans is that the lifestyle spent a lot of time on the fringe and it has been moving toward the mainstream, but the ethical and moral arguments still make people defensive. If we want to bring more people in, we have to be cognizant of that and compel change, not beat them over the head with a heavy object. When people like Richard miss the complete cognitive dissonance of having empathy toward animals and zero empathy toward humans... People are turned off. Addressing the health concerns and ethical concerns in a logical manner is almost always well accepted, even if the recipient is not compelled to change, acting like a bully... No. I don't agree with the dogpiling, this is our culture, but I have my own cognitive dissonance... I wouldn't watch, let alone flag him, but I think YT is a better place without Richard. He is terribly irresponsible with his following.

@EverythingIsPhotogenic

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB good God... You haven't been banned yet??? Bother someone else! Swayze, please block this clown!!

@staceysharee9387

2 жыл бұрын

@@EverythingIsPhotogenic He has a lot of time in his hands 🤦🏾‍♀️ he’s like on every comment

@nicolesapphire3696

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Most reasonable people don’t want to follow an ethical principle that doesn’t value human life, it’s just natural self preservation instincts. We can feel nihilistic about the human race at times and frustrated with things humans do but it doesn’t help to act like a turd, none of us are perfect. I hear so many vegans say they were motivated to change by someone “saying it like it is and being brutally honest etc”, but did they really change you, or were you already open to it, were they a complete stranger or were they a friend that you were more comfortable with. If someone was moved to change by someone insulting them it says something about them too, often they turn into angry vegans themselves. I’m very against the anti-vaxxers, and I’m especially irritated by those that make or use platforms to spread misinformation. I’m most irritated by those that are medical professionals spreading medical misinformation that know what they are saying isn’t true, like Wakefield and possibly Mercola. I even almost think they should be jailed because for example Wakefield damn well knows that he faked his study to sell his own vaccine, he lost his doctor credentials and he still goes and gives anti-vax talks, he is deliberately telling people things that he knows are untrue and as result he is IMO somewhat responsible for the deaths of anti-vaxxers, especially if that death was child that died because parents listened to him. My point is even with my strong feelings even I’m uncomfortable with people laughing at the deaths of anti-vaxxers. I get that to an extent it’s difficult to care about someone who’s not caring about themselves, but we can apply that thought to a lot of things, which comes back to we all have flaws.

@EverythingIsPhotogenic

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB LOSER

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots that exist.

I don't really care of it's "Richard being Richard" and I don't think it's "Cancel Culture" when a grown man on the internet targets a 12 year old boy who just lost his father. He doesn't get more strikes and I think KZread and Twitch need to do the right thing and not be associated with it. These are flesh and blood people not just avatars on a screen. And it's not good enough to say Meadows was bad for the platform because he advocated for a high protein diet, he didn't attack other people he did his own thing.

@mariomario4068

2 жыл бұрын

Grow up and get a life

Side note: sociopath and psychopath shouldn't be used interchangeably. They do not refer to the same condition!

@quigli

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, they do. Neither sociopath nor psychopath are actual diagnoses. They are both colloquial terms to apply to an individual with Antisocial Personally Disorder. That's the diagnosis you'd have if you were a "psychopath" or "sociopath"

@creaturetransylvania8943

2 жыл бұрын

@@quigli The only difference I think is if you know?

@chanceneck8072

2 жыл бұрын

So what is Richard then? As far as my knowledge goes, a psychopath is worse than a sociopath, isn´t it? But I would probably diagnose him as exactly that. Sociopaths just feel no empathy, they don´t understand it, right? But Richard does feel empathy. For animals! He just hates almost all people and he wants to kill them. That´s definitely psychopath, right?

As an Ariel stan… I feel personally attacked by this video. 😭

@thatsalt1560

2 жыл бұрын

I barely remember Ariel. My firstborn watched half the movie once and was so afraid of Ursula I had to turn it off. So I'm with Ariel, who doesn't scare little kids.

@dancingwithgravity

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatsalt1560 when I was 4, I was enamored by Ursula 🙈

@KP-us5pq

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB oh that’s a new one good for you! I was just thinking about you!

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

You can tell that Vegan Gains probably did not have a good relationship with his parents. I think it’s hard to understand why a father would be supportive and caring about their children’s interest when you may have never experienced anything close to that.

@subaruexpresstravels1163

2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that you are correct.. I am a sociopath myself.. I lack empathy in relationships but I'm not hard-core like him.. and I never manipulate for personal gain.. and I grew up being shown NO empathy because my parents were raised with no empathy.. it becomes your environment.. im getting help for this as I am one of the few sociopaths who is actually admitting I need help because I know I have the ability to show empathy in an honest way.. sociopaths never admit their faults.. this is my 1st step.. I never knew that most of the traits was that.. I am righteous.. became a bully beater after being bullied all my life.. so I play HERO in public spaces and humiliate assholes.. I have major ADHD/perfectionist/meticulous/math whiz/always wanting to impress to impress.. not to show off.. just like to be handy and useful.. a nerd who wants to learn and teach what I've learned in the past.. its insane that it took me 45 years to be told I was a sociopath.. but not intentionally.. I've been accused of being what you call.. not thoughtful or absent minded.. a procrastinator.. hard time with social laws that make no sense lol.. all the signs are there.. one trait that doesn't make me a sociopath is that I never hurt anyone else in the process other than having a hard time showing empathy when something causes distress to someone else that I can't relate too.. also because I've never been to a funeral and I never experienced a death of a close family member until my dad died 2 years ago. Now I'm waking up!

John had genetic factors that came into play with his health problems, he was aware of this for a long time before passing and before having his heart attack. He was also a body builder which is a very unhealthy sport specially if you go into competitions, also lots of body builder are into the keto diet since gives them giant amounts of protein and lots of calories for small amounts of food like fats, so they can eat more. There’s a “eat big to get big” mentality. I think he was a very nice guy and he’s exercise advice was spot on, but he’s whole thing is coming from his body building background and that’s not for the average person.

Sociopaths and psychopaths are different, Swayze.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

Yea but none of them are medically important terms right ? But I may be completely wrong.

@mada5326

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not according to the scientific literature, the only difference is the how people interpret it casually, but they both refer to the same condition

@stempki

2 жыл бұрын

Medically there are no sociopaths but psychopaths or ppl with antisocial personality disorder, the term sociopath is a pop cultural one.

@tomislav5689

2 жыл бұрын

Psychopaths have non-functional amygdala, they can't feel empathy. Sociopaths are made.

He has honestly always terrified me

@cultserpent4501

2 жыл бұрын

You are so brave posting about your feelings Eva. Want me to make bad Richard go away?

@slider292

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB It’s a kid. They don’t know any better.

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be scared and remember, barking dog never bites and he's a perfect example of that

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB rather than deleting the account, I'm going to make grocery for dinner. this morning I had greek yogurt with honey, for lunch I had pasta with tomato sauce, onions, peas and tuna. For dinner I'll have pork sausages with french fries and maybe a chocolate mousse for dessert

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB that's fine with me, I don't want to live too much, it becomes boring after a while.

It’s so disgusting what VG said. Picking on the the son is just disgusting. I agree VG is sick. But about John, in a sport with so many egos and self promoters, John was a rare bird. He’s was a gentle man, genuinely caring and supporting so many beginners in the sport of body building. He was loved by so many. I don’t think we can say that about VG. Sad. And btw, John Meadows had a blood disease that caused clots, unrelated to his diet. Coronary heart disease disease did not kill him.

Eating 12 eggs a day is nothing, I've read so many stories about people who eats up to 25 eggs a day, among them an 88 years of age man who ate 25 eggs a day hia whole life and he is fine. They tested the man's lipid levels, which were normal: 200 milligrams per deciliter total cholesterol and 142 for LDL. My point is we don't know if his diet is the main course of his death, correct me if I'm wrong but don't John Meadows' family have a history of heart problems?

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

Anecdotes don't mean anything. Stories at the end of the day are stories, there are more stories of people seeing ghosts and bigfoot... does that makes them real ?

@jasonito23

2 жыл бұрын

He was outlining a bodybuilding diet for hardcore training elite bodybuilders not the average person. If you're smashing the weights 6 days a week and doing cardio 3 or 4 days a week, eating eggs and the other stuff will not negatively affect your heart. What leads these people to heart problems is the juice, diuretics and all types of other gear they take over the years on top of the family genetics. Very few of them reach their mid 70s & 80s like Arnold who's filthy rich, and had a few heart surgeries as well. But since I've been plant-based then Vegan for many years now, when I hear these diets I do shake my head. When I played football I used to eat like this. My friends too. I had the will power to stop, when I stopped playing football. But my friends are all over 240 lbs. sloppy fat still eating this nonsense.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonito23 I guess that's why body builders have such a high mortality rate...and specially due to cardiovascular diseases.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonito23 the amount of fat burners , performance enhancers, steroids and other things involved is crazy. I have seen people promoting absolute garbage in the gym and in fitness industry in general.

@jeanettenejadi1777

2 жыл бұрын

I also know people who eat 20 eggs per day and fatty meat and are very healthy. Eating that way actually helped them recovering from their former health issues.

Actually, you can have heart attacks blockages and heart disease from genetics, I have the genetic variant. It's far more likely that he died from the genetic variant than from the diet that weight lifters use to build muscle because weight lifters who eat meat are notoriously known for eating lots of carbs to get started and then return to a strict yokeless egg, broiled rotisseried or baked chicken (all lean) and rice/ often they will eat beans and rice but only in dishes with seafood which absolutely does not cause heart disease when not fried, we're talking omega 3 fish, crab, and prawn. So the fact that they think it's his diet just shows the ignorance they have about the diet itself.

@jasonablah7702

2 жыл бұрын

College roommate & friend of mine had crazy high cholesterol. He was a D2 basketball player before transferring to our university. 21. Super healthy. His father was a cardiologist and went on to explain what you're talking about & genetics. You can just get dealt a bad hand. Meanwhile I have Sicilian great uncle's who drank, smoked, ate tons of carbs & meat who lived into their 90s & lived long lives without any serious health issues. Genetics are huge.

If you’re proudly and openly wearing the title of vegan on your chest and laughing at dead guys, that kind of gives vegans a bad name. Its not surprising how that can damage vegans reputation in the eyes of some people. I think that’s what Greg meant. Doing shitty things can tarnish your message.

@vieri864

2 жыл бұрын

You could say the same for any group that a psychopath is a part of. Does he give gamers a bad name? Does he give poc's a bad name? Does he give men a bad name? Judge someone for their actions and not what groups they're a part of. One singular person doesn't represent a whole group.

@tiegideon9816

2 жыл бұрын

@@vieri864 The convo specifically pertains to diets and a huge reason he’s acting the way he is is because that guy was a meat eater. I get what you’re trying to say, but it makes absolutely no sense given the context of what he’s talking about. Being a gamer, male, or POC has nothing to do with the topic, but veganism does. That’s why he gives vegans a bad name. If I preach hate on the street while wearing a cross, I’m giving Christians a bad name. It has nothing to do with me being black or a gamer

@angeliparraguirre7329

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiegideon9816 i agree one part is more relevant than any of the others. For example, people may he totally unaware he is a gamer.

@angryahole

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB were you born a vegan? How many animal deaths are you responsible for? Do you deserve to live?

I’m so glad Richard got a vasectomy. I’ve always felt is vibe was off, so hostile and mean.

@ktridente101

2 жыл бұрын

Ill just assume you meant to write, "his"

@scarlet8078

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he is a sociopath

@ambersummer2685

2 жыл бұрын

His children would be miserable with so many mental health issues.

The amount of steroids Vegan Gains takes means he probably wont even live as long as John did.

I take issue with how you describe Greg Doucette around 14:00. It’s completely unfair to claim he is being some kind of pearl-clutcher with faux outrage because videos have been made calling him an a-hole. He is absolutely NOT mean to anyone overweight, a lot of his channel and advice is dedicated to helping people who are overweight. You can not like his advice or his tone, but I’ve never seen him be mean. Not ever. He is in no way comparable to vegan gains and has every right to be outraged about how VG spoke about his dead friend. You may say “oh that’s just Richard being Richard”, but to people outside the vegan KZread community, the things he says are legitimately appalling.

@nikanh9946

2 жыл бұрын

He’s literally said in videos before that overweight people are ugly and look like poop. I don’t think either of them are upstanding citizens.

@JiraiyaSama86

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikanh9946 I don't think he's said that, word for word. You may want to watch those videos again. If he said it, you can always link and put time stamps on the portions where he said such. I understand watching some of those videos how people misinterpret or just seem to glance over it, or worse- watch using a negative lens. If you care to, please provide the instances.

@nikanh9946

2 жыл бұрын

Abby Sharp made a video about him using clips from his videos.

Interesting and well argued as always, but it´s still possible to draw the line for extreme cases, like when a creator exposes a child like Richard did.

He's hating on that kid because obviously he didn't get that at home. And he didn't realize nothing I think he seen people on his stream saying stuff about it. Someone better search his basement and backyard by the way.

Maybe Richard wasnt shown the type of care when he was a kid that would make him able to relate as opposed to resent

@DilipkumarJadhav

2 жыл бұрын

There’s quite a few who grow up abused and vow to make the world a better place. Who vow to not treat their kids or other kids the same way that they were treated. And then there’s this garbage who says ‘if I didn’t get it, no one else should’

I think you're onto something with Richard being unhappy but I also think he just enjoys causing drama. I remember when him and penguinz0 (Charlie) got into it and Vegan Gains pretty much milked the entire situation for his benefit. Charlie has some lame takes on veganism but he makes good points on Richard's exploitation of the situation for personal gain.

@Mido1025_J

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB this is a joke, right?

@Mido1025_J

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB ok, you’re dying for some attention, but I would love to know why fishing is bad?, plants can feel too yet you still eat them .. -_- , you better be a saint and count on sun, water, and air for nutrients rather than killing plants

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB 😋🦪🦑🦐🦞🦀🍤🧈🍳🥚🌭🍕🍔🥓🥩🍗🍖🧀🍯

@Mido1025_J

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB 🥩 🍖 🎣 🎣 🍔🍗🌭🧆🍤🍣😋😋

@jm-ql3sl

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB nope, not gonna happen. I'm gonna eat some tuna for breakfast instead 🐟

I don't think you get VG's behavior is an issue. If anyone's first exposure to began content is Richard attacking children and mocking dead people that likely to turn them off to watching anything else. And because Vegan is part of his name, he IS an ambassador for veganism.

Richard isn't exactly the most aware person around... his consciousness is stuck where it's at because he obviously has a lot of anger he hasn't resolved or moved forward from. Like honestly it's kind of sad that he makes money from making KZread videos where he's mostly bashing on people....also I feel like if someone hates kids as much as he does, he must of had some trauma happen when he was a kid. I personally feel like someone isn't wise or grown if they aren't capable of having patience for a baby or a child. This dude is just a big child that hasn't resolved anything he's been through so.... and also eating a bunch if junk food isn't helping him or his girlfriend either...

I don’t think Richard qualifies as sociopath, He’s just edge lord with serious childhood trauma he likely ignores or doesn’t even realize he numbed down, if anything he’s reverse of proud meat eater/carnivore that shows much care and empathy for human kind but absolutely disregards animal life and their torture.

@therabbithat

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is likely. I can imagine him learning to emphasize with the little boy he was when he was abused. Then extending that to other children. Then to adults. He can't awknowledge human suffering if he can't awknowledge his own. His empathy with animals means there is hope

i don't understand how someone can love animals so much yet have so much hatred for humans, and especially children. i personally don't want children and i'm not very good with them, but they're such innocent beings. i don't understand how anyone can hate them.

@kingklebold6474

2 жыл бұрын

How are you able to pay attention with those nice big udders in the middle of the sceeen?

@NBid-rp9ch

Жыл бұрын

Children are not innocent. They are generally cruel, self centered, and often violent. Adults have to force them not to behave like animals...and they usually still refuse to act decently unless you threaten them with punishment.

Your channel really makes me choose more vegan options every day. Your level headed ness about everything is something I truly admire. You’re the best!

regardless of the amount of fat. (which i agree is horrible)..body building in the way he was does put massive strain on the heart which is why mixed training with cardio is best.

@nicolesapphire3696

2 жыл бұрын

There are so many ex professional body builders that admit body building is very unhealthy, especially at competitive levels. They dehydrate themselves by not drinking water right before a competition, like yikes that’s scary. I’m so tired of people looking at extreme body building and referencing it as a representation of what healthy should be, it’s not healthy when taken to the extreme, giant muscles don’t always mean someone is healthy. I think weight lifting can be healthy as long as it’s not taken to the extreme.

@marvinulloa4438

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolesapphire3696 No, the problem is not even the dehydrating or extreme shedding of bodyfat levels; the problem IS THE STEROID USE

@Hi-Five-Ghost

2 жыл бұрын

He was a steroid user, they tend to pass away young. They promote eating 6 times a day, 5,000+ calories a day to build mass…

It's not accurate to label him as a psychopath, from my understanding of what it is, but he does have some antisocial aspects to him. He's too emotional and focused on morality to be that, but he lacks a lot of empathy and emotional intelligence.

@angeliparraguirre7329

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. His ego is hard to pin down I guess.

@thatsalt1560

2 жыл бұрын

I'm completely lost with these labels. She said he said sociopath. That's not the same as psychopath? I don't know. Help. But ... in any case, I never saw this man before and something is wrong, yes. That's not just ordinary bitterness and anger. Either he is deeply depressed or there is some kind of disorder that's behind it. (I would actually guess he is depressed. Depression that went far does the strangest things to people.) It would be nice if he would get some help. Life can be so much nicer than if you're walking around hating everyone.

@piamia6649

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB Please stop spamming the comments section.

@piamia6649

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB Buddy, you commented the same thing under multiple comments. Either your account is glitched or you’re spamming, which is against community guidelines. lol

@piamia6649

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB Nice trolling...

he said he was a psychopath and that he had pedophobia.that he took a lsd shroom trip in the forrest (this isn't sarcasm) and that he gained impathy for humans.

John Meadows was not eating 6 eggs per day. Or at least he never promoted that on his KZread channel. John Meadows ate healthy foods such as oatmeal, vegetables, and lean proteins like canned tuna, wild salmon, lean beef, chicken breasts. He also used supplements such as whey protein.

All the vegans I've met were like this guy, VERY toxic & psychotic. I had to rough one up one time & made him cry like a little b-word.

1000 Ways to Die was fake btw and not "actual situations". The deaths they showed were very loosely based on some real deaths but GREATLY changed to make them goofy, but they also just made stuff up that could kill someone but never happened. What they did would be like taking someone who died in a car accident because they weren't wearing a seat belt and weren't paying attention while changing a song and turning the story to "so and so died in a car crash because they weren't wearing a seat belt and they were getting road head from their mistress and went to change the music on the radio to something sexier and all those distractions ended in a car accident where the mistress got decapitated and when they found her head she had the guy's dick in her mouth". I mean that's not an actual episode, but that's how absurd their changes often were. From their wiki: "1000 Ways to Die takes a tongue-in-cheek dark humor approach to death through its presentation of stories derived from both myths and science, and the show makes liberal use of artistic license to significantly embellish or change the circumstances of real-life incidents that resulted in death for greater entertainment value." I get your greater point and I'm not disagreeing with it. I mean for example, there's a popular subreddit where people often laugh at anti vaxxers who die of covid and those were real people. I just couldn't stand listening to people at work in the early 2010's laugh at how stupid the dead people on 1000 Ways to Die when these things didn't even happen.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

We have the Darwin award...and it's god dang funny.

"Richard is doing a pretty good job of canceling himself... Look at his channel growth and views". Sick burn😂😂😂

@Nayr747

2 жыл бұрын

Except she has significantly less subs than him and hers are falling at about the same rate as his.

@Anton-oe4rg

2 жыл бұрын

lol richard's channel was getting a hell of a lot more views than usual the several months before the John Meadows incident

@samuelclayhills3298

2 жыл бұрын

The only sick thing about it is that its fucking basic as shit you vannilla normie plebs

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

Hes not a psychopath hes an edgelord

Find it interesting to see just how easy it is to take something out of contacts and try to make it look bad so for example when I say the average person looks like poop and I’m making a motivational video to encourage people to get off their ass and to exercise and to eat healthy and to tell people do you want to be average or do you want to do better to be your best to do your best or do you want to be mediocre and say the average person is overweight or obese. And then I make 250 videos where I tell people how to lose weight and encourage people to have realistic goals to love themselves enough to work out and To motivate themselves to desire to do so and I had Hundreds of thousands of people improve their lives through my videos I need to see someone come out here and just say Greg is like vegan games because he makes fun of fat people and says that they’re ugly when that’s the furthest thing from the truth that I never see well debatably the furthest thing I’ve ever seen from the truth that’s been said about me in my videos. You probably watched a video on Abby sure who clicked a five second clip on my video and then put it in her video. Why don’t you personally ask Abby Sharp now what she thinks about me now that she’s actually watched my videos and I’ve literally interviewed her for my channel and for her channel which she hasn’t posted the interview yet and just see if she thinks that I’m the person that you just described in this video.

I'm not vegan and I have nothing against not eating animal products (I do recognize for the vast majority of Americans it would probably be healthier). But I do feel that people like Vegan Gains have a terrible impact on public perception. Greg's statement "this is why people have a poor reputation of vegans" I think is spot on. It's a few bad actors in the community. When I think of vegans, the first 2 people that I think of are the super mean girl on Jubilee (I think?) and Vegan Gains. I used to have a neutral perception of vegans, but literally, these 2 people have definitely affected my views. Despite how hard I try to stay objective, if I say people like Vegan Gains and Vegan Teacher didn't give me a negative impression, I would be lying. And I feel like like for a vast majority of "normies" (I'm referring to people who don't care what they in their mouth), the only exposure they have to vegans are people like Vegan Gains and Vegan Teacher.

@Firm-Tofu-King

2 жыл бұрын

She's not vehan

@excusemeforawhile2679

2 жыл бұрын

I love that you reflect on the origins of the bad reputation vegans have in your mind. I can’t blame you, people like VG definitely don’t do a Great Service for „our“ (vegans) image. I wish everyone would be as mindful of the difference in people within the vegan community as you are and I hope you will come across some really nice vegans like UV, because I firmly believe that they’re the majority. Wish you all the best :)

I find it hypocritical of Vegan Gains that he had a stream dedicated to mass reporting and trying to get Raleigh banned off KZread for “bullying” Vegan Teacher, but it’s totally okay for him to bully a dead father and his son who is still only a child. You’d think that for someone who is so ethical would be the bigger man and show some honor and not dance on a dead mans grave, but it seems he’s lowering himself even lower than the people he trashes.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Animal products and cooked food are toxic and in the long run deadly. Humans are fruit eaters by nature. Watch Douglas Graham and Loren Lockman for more details. Postscript: All of my posts are 100% correct. I am not interested in the opinion of anybody. And I will no longer respond to any insolent idiot and to any ungrateful idiot.

The thing with Richard laughing at his death like that, it's not even the laughing, but how obviously fake the laughing is. He's not bursting out in pure laughter from a deep emotion he's feeling. It's not reflexive, real laughter. It's staged. He's making _a point_ by pretend-laughing at it and broadcasting it. And that's what's vile and evil.

@princesseville6889

2 жыл бұрын

If you know his Videos you know thats what his genuine laughter sounds like, that is his hysterical laugh - thats real.

@seaofseeof

2 жыл бұрын

@@princesseville6889 I've seen his videos in the past and I recall him laughing like this, but all it does make me think that ungenuine laughter is all he's capable of.

Didn't Richard also BUY a pure bred dog that required all MEAT diet? I could be misinformed, but like... how is that cool?

@megcours

2 жыл бұрын

No no no no, he accidentally bought from a breeder thinking he was rescuing it 🥴

@waeulbr

2 жыл бұрын

Same with a cat

@jocojuri

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't, his wife, then girlfriend did. He wasn't happy about it, but accepted it.

@mrlikerdh

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't.

According to VG and other sources, his first strike was from an edited video he made of Greg Doucette, making it seem like he said a certain word, and the second was from a video he made of Alec Enkiri.

@darishennen898

2 жыл бұрын

He really didn't have to edit it. I watched Greg's video and heard it right away. Even commented "dropping harder R's than last time".

@JiraiyaSama86

2 жыл бұрын

@@darishennen898 he edited though to make it seem like Greg was saying it for like 10 minutes, I believe.

@witheredserenity3183

2 жыл бұрын

What did he say about Alec?

@JiraiyaSama86

2 жыл бұрын

@@witheredserenity3183 I didn't watch. He admitted that the second strike was from that video in a comments section.

I always love your content, UV, and I just want to express my appreciation for your objective and scientific analyses of your subjects. Not only are you totally down to earth, but you also present your arguments with evidence and hard science to back up your points. A little off-topic, but I've been a longtime follower, and you've made a big impact on how I encourage people in their efforts to go plant-based. You've taught me that instead of an all-or-nothing, dogmatic approach to veganism, we should commend someone for any small effort they make to reduce their consumption of animal products. I've adopted this approach when encouraging my friends to cut back on eating meat, no matter how small their effort. Anyway, I just want to say that I

Sociopaths don't feel for animals either. He is just extremely damaged. He was probably not loved as a child.

@Childrenarebetterthananimals

7 ай бұрын

Actually Psychopaths don’t feel empathy for animals, sociopaths on the other hand can feel empathy for animals even while not feeling empathy for humans, there’s a difference between a psychopath and a sociopath do some research

The only reason vegan and non animal diets are considered healthy is because of the lifestyle those people live. The average person who eats meat doesnt exercise, consumes alchohol in excess and lives a generally unhealthy life.

@MohamedAdelSci

2 жыл бұрын

No, do you think scientists don't understand confounding factors? Well-planned vegan diets are as healthy as well-planned omnivorous diets.

Richard we knew and didn't love. Actually I love sixteenleo and that's the only reason I even heard of him

To be honest you are the reason i look in to veganism. I started looking up the vegan teacher and even tho i hate animal cruelty, i didnt feel like looking into things because the platform i could search for veganism didnt feel inspiring and made me look away. I got your video recommended from reacting to the vegan teacher and racism and all that. The way you talk and express yourself and makes it a safe place and even something i would like to be a part of is amazing.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you need and an inspection, the only person you need is you, question your self and you will get the answer, "is suffering of trillions more important than my taste pleasure ?" Ask yourself.

I love how in his response video he just calls you "not vegan" when he says you can eat bivalves, ride horses, and he himselr fed his dog nonvegan food. He's toxic and shouldn't be allowed on youtube.

No way! You actually have viewed the PsychopathyIs channel? That was where I learned about sociopath not being an official clinical term.

My wife says "F* you Aerial is great!", for the record.

5:57 My opinion is that Greg's right here. If it was just Vegan Gains then sure, people would look at him and say "that guy's crazy", rather than "vegans are crazy", but combined with other crazy vegans, and all those willing to defend anything pro-vegan, I think it is a serious problem. You don't have to use the name to do the right thing, so it's not an excuse to eat meat, but I can see how someone would see stuff like this and be uncomfortable calling themselves vegan. This hasn't kept me from calling myself vegan, but similar examples have put me off other things.

You insult him then you proceed to excuse his behavior , I was so confused.....

Saying "I'm not trying to defend him" and then procedes to defend him. I think greg was trying to say it was creepy how much satisfaction he was getting out of, particularly the part where he fakes laughs about John meadows son. I agree people will find ways not to go vegan but especially the online ones (not you) are actively rooting for people who either consume animal products to die so yes i would say he gives them a bad name. Edit I also don't want to see his channel removed unless you're doing whatever hatespeech is I think in American its when you encourage attacking someone but he should be able to say pretty much whatever he wants when KZread takes down videos its also pretty relevant information about the KZread you're subscribed to I was subscribed for years and I didn't even know he had a first strike would have liked to have known what he did and made my own decisions.

@VeganSanatani

2 жыл бұрын

Again people will find a way not be vegan, so if someone is getting called names for his/her actions it's in their best interest to look into the matter, and if the decided to ignore all the cruelty just because they were called names , then that's their fault.

Look I don’t kids but you don’t see me wishing them dead

He's a psychopath with "no capacity for empathy" and somehow at the same time changed his entire lifestyle and has devoted most of his life for years to helping animals? Yeah that makes sense..

@bestaqua23

2 жыл бұрын

He might be doing it to look better in his Owen eyes

@Nayr747

2 жыл бұрын

@@bestaqua23 Then why would he say the things he says and make himself look bad? I think he was telling the truth. He feels empathy for animals but not usually for people (I'm sure he cares about his wife). I don't see how this is so weird and unacceptable to people who, in general, feel the empathy for humans but not usually for animals.

@darthsidius9631

2 жыл бұрын

Nayr747 Hitler was vegan

@Nayr747

2 жыл бұрын

@@darthsidius9631 Actually Hitler was not vegan.

Vegan Gains likes attention whether it is negative or positive. No one really cares what Vegan Gains has to say. He should be on one of those cable reality shows or a talk show.

Richard's always read Narcissist to me. Putting animals on a pedestal (or hating them), taking pride in negative attributes, a very heightened sense of superiority a lack of empathy. Your mom instinct was the perfect description of it, he's deeply unhappy and takes it out on the world.

So Richard is still the absolute worst. Good to know some things don’t change I guess? I hope he gets the help he needs

Taking things out on your own or other people's kids is never okay, thats fkn low and pointless

Vegans that hate humans are strange to me... Humans are not ONLY animals but we are the MOST IMPORTANT ANIMALS in the world.

Do you have any reference that saturated fat is bad for health ? Thanks

@petermueller226

2 жыл бұрын

Pseudoscience from the last century, Ancel Keys who was mainly responsible for these claims was a fraud. Btw, it appears that almost all the misinformation about nutrition, lies and fads are coming from the US, people should stop listening to "studies" coming from there.

I, for one, hope he doesn’t get off of KZread and have to get a “real” job. He’s a danger to society, whether for everyone’s physical or mental safety. He can also do damage behind a computer screen, but it’s less tangible. I don’t think a normal 9-5 job would do anything to make him realize anything, would only hurt the people he’s in contact with.

There is definitely a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. I hear what you're saying though

@UnnaturalVegan

2 жыл бұрын

sociopath is not a clinical term, so yes there definitely is lol

@gracew4204

2 жыл бұрын

I mean psychopath isn’t a clinical term either it’s APD

@TheStarsAlly

2 жыл бұрын

@@gracew4204 Clinicians do use psychopath in conjunction with ASPD. No it isn't in the DSM but it's definitely used in clinical settings.

@b2h316

2 жыл бұрын

@georgia l is it though when he openly identifies that way?

@gracew4204

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheStarsAlly yeah absolutely! But it’s technically not a clinical term even if clinicians use it that’s all 😊✌🏻

Very good video (as usual)...we're always someone else's jerk. Just a little note regarding John Meadows and the diet article you mentioned. First off, it dates from 2010, I believe J.M. could have soften his stance a little bit. In any case, he's not addressing the general population but usually advanced resistance-training athletes. Their training and body composition lend themselves to special nutrition, with the caveat that health might not be the foremost concern (the activity and the body you get from it being in themselves not standards of health). A diet high in saturated fats might offset some problems with the crazy amount of carbs that would be needed for the same caloric envelope. And I say this with no skin in the game: I'm a vegetarian whose athletic (amateur) endeavors are mainly carb-fueled lol. But I just wanted to bring some nuance to the question. J. Meadows was universally respected in the field (except by Richard, obviously, but there's always an exception to the rule haha) and he was a genuinely giving and generous being on all accounts. High-level bodybuilding is not healthy, but his passing seems unrelated to his pursuit in the field (which involves pharmacology, atypical nutrition, and stress on bodily functions). He suffered from some genetic, likely inherited, traits that look to be the reason for his pulmonary embolism. Admittedly, with bodybuilding you can never truly be sure, but most people wouldn't question the sport if it happened to a runner or soccer player...but yeah, I can't fault vegans for not being in agreement with the bodybuilder diet he pushed. I think vegetarianism could work for high level untested (i.e. relying on performance-enhancing drugs) bodybuilding although I don't have actual examples, but veganism is really harder for many reasons (macro ratios, especially during the so-called "prep" before a show, digestive dynamics with fiber content etc.) - and I'm not talking "gaining muscles on a vegan diet" or "can you get enough protein on a vegan diet". This is established A-OK. I'm talking high-level stuff...if bodybuilders promote so much meat and animal products, it's not because of some macho "rooaarrrr I am predator" unconscious fantasy or whatever, it's for the math to check out when you start manipulating your macro intake really hard...(plus the usual omnivore "cause' I like it", but since they don't differ from the gen pop there, it's not a factor).

@anthonymarconi761

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB 🤦‍♂️

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots that exist.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Fishing is obviously bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Animal products and cooked food are toxic and in the long run deadly. Humans are fruit eaters by nature. Watch Loren Lockman and Douglas Graham for more details. Postscript: All of my posts are 100% correct. I am not interested in the opinion of anybody. And I will no longer respond to any insolent idiot and to any ungrateful idiot.

It's that time of the year to rewatch the Destiny vs Vegan Gains video! Thanks for reminding me heat exists.

@kingkingo1841

2 жыл бұрын

@MdoubleHB wow really here is your medal

You can cry about this all you want but you've been ducking a debate with Ask Yourself on moral realism for years and I'm sure even if I offered to have a live discussion on these issues you have with me you'd also just run away and hide. All you're doing here is appealing to your audience's sensibilities, you have no way of actually proving that what I do and say is wrong. BTW my ban had absolutely nothing to do with Jon Meadows or his kid and none of my live streams were striked, unrelated videos were striked. Again you know how to reach me and you could have asked but you didn't because you don't care about the truth, you just make a living complaining about vegans on the internet and you're willing to lie and stretch the truth to entertain your audience of anti vegans.

@Ghost-fe1vp

2 жыл бұрын

All you're doing here is running away from admitting your wrongdoings.

@VeganGains

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ghost-fe1vp Yet I'm the only one willing to debate and discuss these issues with anyone.

@taintmueslix

2 жыл бұрын

she and her audience are anti-vegan because they support the commodification of human animals, right Richard?

@Assassin99584

2 жыл бұрын

You are the only one crying

@Assassin99584

2 жыл бұрын

@@VeganGains nobody wants to debate with you as you just act like a petulant child

Richard has always kinda been this way so im not surprised but why do people watch him (still)?? he's so unlikable and just flat out negative all the time, it would be so depressing to constantly be confronted with that

Body building is unhealthy who doesn’t know this. It’s a sacrifice that he was willing to take and unfortunately it caught up to him eventually. But he spoke truth about beef tallow it’s so good for your skin, brain, nervous system etc. Many very old people over 80 still eat the way he promoted and are doing well. But he was extreme in other parts of his lifestyle obviously. So hopefully y’all find balance and do not shift to any type of extreme lifestyle.

If you can't feel empathy for humans, and you are a sociopath, then chances are you don't really feel empathy for animals.

I admire your concern and your compassion. But really, I only see two ways this Drama with "Richard" can end. Either someone takes his internet away. Or he's going to keep doing what he's doing until one night, he says his spiel to the wrong person, and they take care of him. Either way, it has nothing to do with me. Good night!

@DilipkumarJadhav

2 жыл бұрын

@tobias walker Was about to say the exact same thing. The whole “Richard is Richard” is bullshit. If he doesn’t seek mental help, keeps doing more such deranged stuff and gets away with it, exactly where is this going to end? In precisely the two ways outlined above. She compares him to a comedian…seriously?? So by that logic, all comedians are sociopaths?

Meadows died from a pulmonary embolism, blood clots going to the lungs. Meadows also had a heart attack because of blood clots. His arteries were clean. And Meadows also lost his colon in 2005 because of blood clots going to his intestines. HE HAD A BLOOD CLOTTING DISORDER. RIP

Vegan gains is just some sadistic BPD borderline with some highly traumatized "alter" (that's why I keep saying that BPD is similar to DID, and not to narcissism or psychopathy) who was hated or beaten as a child (especially when he was crying), so he is programmed to hate other children (especially when they are crying, or show weakness). His childhood experience is mirrored in his behaviour but he was probably not traumatized enough to develop it into DID (because in DID his angry alter would be much more hidden and show up only very occasionally, especially in self-damaging behaviour) His existence as a child very likely wasn't supported in a healthy and loving way, he has a massive psychological wound based on that, therefore he is reacting there without any prefrontal cortex control and his reactions are extreme because the hate and anger he couldn't express against the perpetrator he is expressing towards the innocent now. He also probably feels very unworthy of being loved. Traumatized children will develop self-hatred because they subconsciously think something is wrong with them because their father or mother didn't love them. The hatred he felt from someone in childhood he accepted as his own and when he shows these types of behaviours he actually shows hatred to his own inner child without realizing it. This is of course just my opinion based on observing him from many years ago.

This video paired with Vegan Gains response is absolutely PURE GOLD! The only thing that tops these is sixteenleo's clapback at Vegan Gains.

I hate children, I don’t think I’m a psychopath or sociopath, maybe I am. Also not a fan of dogs, their slobber and hair and noises and ugh. Childfree and petfree doesn’t mean I’m broken

@oklahomaproud6665

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that you think child free equates to hating children is a self report

@somethingsomething404

2 жыл бұрын

@@oklahomaproud6665 did I say that? I spoke for myself not the entire movement

Swayze is awesome because she is always genuinely thoughtful. I always learn from her perspective even when I disagree. Pretty rare on the internet these days.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Swayze and her minions are the most stupid idiots ever.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Of course fishing is bad. Animal eaters do not deserve to live.

@mdoublehb6415

2 жыл бұрын

Animal products and cooked food are toxic and in the long run deadly. Humans are fruit eaters by nature. Watch Douglas Graham and Loren Lockman for more details. Postscript: All of my posts are 100% correct. I am not interested in the opinion of anybody. And I will no longer respond to any insolent idiot and to any ungrateful idiot.

"I feel for animals because they never hurt ME". It's not because most animals are thinking, feeling, beings deserving of respect and decent behavior from us. To Richard it's only because they never offended HIM and his EGO. So he extends his EGO to animals and associates himself with them when he see's people hurting animals. That's not a bad thing. But it's not compassion that came forth on its own for animals as seeing them as individual living beings that are negatively effected by human actions its because he see's himself in them and associates it with his abusive experiences. Again not an issue but where the empathy for animals manifested seems to be more about him and his feelings and experiences and not about the animals feelings or experiences. I fear if it is a being that is sentient human or not that he does not or can not transfer his previous experiences with abuse and ego to he will outright dismiss their moral worth as a sentient being. The problem lies when he associates every human being with the person/s who hurt him. Human beings who are cognitively, and emotionally more robust and can suffer on a much more nuanced level (this doesn't mean animal suffering is invalid or not important) mean very little to him shows that sentience and feelings are not what he cares about. He cares about himself and his experiences and where he can place himself in that situation he is witnessing. The fact that he has no empathy for people even though he has more in common cognitively and physically shows how much sentience is NOT what he cares about. It all about HIM. By advocating for animals he feels he is one upping his abusers. It's about taking back power and winning arguments. Its not actually about the animals. People who have dlgenuine compassion for animals and care about sentience and are empathetic can see right through his faux out rage.

Psychopaths and sociopaths are completely DIFFERENT constructs. Get educated.