Does Your Army MOS Affect How Fast You Get Promoted?!?
Promotions in the Army can seem complicated. If you want to make the military a career and you want to get promoted quickly, ensure you have a high APFT, do your best at everything, do boards, go to schools, and do things to separate yourself from other soldiers. The higher you go the more competitive the promotions are.
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My unit was trash I literally went from e-2 to e-4 because they forgot about my e-3 promotion.
@StonagePwnage
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao that’s dope
@MiguelAngel-wr3th
4 жыл бұрын
Badass lol
@Thatoneguyn
4 жыл бұрын
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@Thatoneguyn
4 жыл бұрын
Thats a dub
@alexkyte4093
4 жыл бұрын
E-4 mafia
E4 Mafia for life. I just met a Veteran retired with 15 years as an E-4 and yes it was a fellow 88 Mike.
@A-arxn
6 жыл бұрын
What exactly do you do during drills?
@InwoodWay
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda wanna know the same thing, I'm thinking about going 88m but I still would like to know a few more details about it
@Andrew-ez3tq
5 жыл бұрын
I thought about doing 88M since I have my CDL and can Acasp. Jump to E-4 off the bat. But I didn’t want to do the same job twice army and Civilian.
@Vinegarissweet
4 жыл бұрын
😮
@SongpyeonPR
4 жыл бұрын
42A for life
I love your channel. Every time I search for something specific your page always has the most organized and valid content. Tanks man! 🙌🏽
Matt, I wanna thank you for the videos. I am shipping on Nov 16th and I have lost count of how many videos I have watched. The land nav was one of the best. I am physically and mentally tougher. Your videos helped me a lot. You are doing a great job. Keep it up, brother.
Entered the DEP yesterday have a ship out date to South Carolina on the 27 of this month. I’m so excited I’ve been watching all these videos. Can’t wait
lm shipping out this Monday. You videos have been my first "go to" to get answers for my questions. I research my question as well and you are always spot on! Great job man!
@FaydsterTV
2 жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing well bro!
A lot of soldiers switch from 11B because of a permanent profile from injury.
This is a pretty complex topic for sure. Ultimately, it’s up to the solider to be motivated enough to get those points, but different locations, units, assignments, chain of commands, mission requirements, etc all play a role in wether you get certain points or not. Even if you are in a low density MOS you can struggle to get points because of elements out of your control. Control what you can (range, apft, distance learning, college, etc.) and the rest will follow in time if you’re patient and motivated. I wouldn’t avoid an MOS that you will be happy in just to get an “easier” promotion point scale.
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
100%
@trentonmiller6941
6 жыл бұрын
Dan Sebastian is there anyway a person can jump up 2 ranks or switch mos to fill in that missing e something slot
@danseb43
6 жыл бұрын
Trenton Miller kind of. You can enter the army as a Specialist (E4) which skips E1-E3 if you have a degree, and there are a handful of special units/assignments where you can come out of basic training as an NCO (E5/E6) like the special Army bands. You would have to bring some serious credentials to earn that though. There are also reclassifications that you can do after you’ve been in for a few years that can allow you to automatically pick up E5 or E6 depending on your current rank. Precision MOS reclassifications for MOSs that are hurting in numbers. Bottom line is, the Army has time in service and time in rank requirements that you will need to meet before getting promoted 98% of the time.
@trentonmiller6941
6 жыл бұрын
Dan Sebastian does it also matter what branch you went into and what you got for a diploma?
@danseb43
6 жыл бұрын
Trenton Miller all I know is Army brotha. Degree doesn’t matter. But if you get a degree the army “needs” then just go officer!
E-1 in basic... three and a half years later....E-5. MI field (Interrogator in Germany)
@christianfritz3373
4 жыл бұрын
I am very interested in MI I am 27 right now. I do not have a degree. How are things now?
@RioluAuraSphere
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianfritz3373 recommend 35 series...
@Oliver-lc9ud
3 жыл бұрын
Did you get that because they promoted you because you qualified for 35Lima? Or just passed through normally.
Great video and helpful link. Me and my cousin are enlisting as we always wanted to. Don’t really care for promotions, pay grade or college/benefits of the career. I always wanted to enlist and serve as part of the military. Due to me being a fat ass I choose to be 12 Bravo while my cousin is still undecided. Went to MEPS for the confirmation test and just gotta wait for the lockdown/delay to be lifted to go do the fitness test. The link was very helpful for her as my cousin wants to build a career out of the army and maybe sighs on for a decade or two. Stay healthy every one
Trying to get back into the Army. Got out as an E-5. Let me say I had the most responsibility than all our new E-5's in my company. I even had to take on our E-7 position when he was on leave. I guess my First Sergeant and Commander trusted me more. SO yeah when it comes to promotion to an E-5, you're right that its the Company that can determine if they want to promote you to an E-5 position, if there are slots available for your MOS. But I figured to go back in and tackle new challenges. Trying to go back and go into WOCS. Should of done it sooner now that I'm in my mid 30's. I have to say you have a lot of experience and insights and I'm glad you made these videos. Hopefully your videos will help new future recruits.
I’m glad you made this under 10 minutes, just ‘ain’t nobody got time for that.’ Thanks for posting
@64wulf45
4 жыл бұрын
I would say five minutes then have a part 2 post.
It could be worse. You could be in the Navy! SN-Timmy: Sailor of the year, Bluejacket of the quarter, ESWS Pin, Bachelors degree, and hardest worker, loved by all. SN Jimmy: Does Bake sale. SN Jimmy gets promoted 🤷🏼♂️
From my observation it always seemed by "how much Uncle Sam needs you." Example, I went from E1 to E4 in year and half as 19D. That was during the time of OIF/OEF, where front line combat MOSes was in high demand. I went to nowhere when I reclassed to 68W since there was too many 68Ws and barely any NCOs leaving the Army.
When I was on active duty, the promotion point ceiling was 1,000 points. 200 were the commander's evaluation. Of course, times change. I was in Finance, so the cut-off score was usually 998. What he's saying is true. It all comes down to supply & demand, what the army requires for each specialty (MOS). Choose wisely because you may not be able to change to another.
I'm glad I found your KZread channel because I'm really considering joint the Army
@tylerjohnson3195
5 жыл бұрын
Xander G did ya do it
Joined the National Guard 68W, leave for basic on july 16 currently in RSP...Thanks Matt your vids have been helping me get ready mentally as well as what to do physically
@travisdenny8283
6 жыл бұрын
hc Paisano I'm National Guard 11B, ship may 21st. White phase babyyy.
@tylerlatham9983
6 жыл бұрын
hc Paisano If you have friends that want to join and if they join under you then you can get promoted that way
Thanks for all the vids, ur the real MVP
Thanks for the Information. I Appreciate It👍
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It's been so many years, but there was someone working a medical job, a Captain who was prior enlisted. She'd been a Lieutenant and then a Captain for quite a bit of years. She explained that it takes a LONG time for people in her job to be promoted and that it'd be a couple more years before she'd even be allowed to test for Major. I want to say she was a nurse, but I wont swear to that. All I remember is she played a big role in helping sick and injured basic trainees.
1976 - 1998, E1 thou E8 in 23 years, E5 in 27 months, E-7 in 9 years. MOS was 31N, a very few in the Army, one unit was authorized only 3 E6s, I was the only E6, no lower enlisted.
The Infantry has a high turnover most get out out after their first enlistment. Many get hurt in training or combat and some get chaptered out. I have seen a lot change jobs, I have seen some become officers and warrants. At the end of the day it is a tough MOS! The Infantry was the best thing I ever did, but I am glad i got out after my first enlistment.
Your mos is the main thing that determines promotions
Thanks for info keep going keep making people happy. Stay happy 😃 live happy
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
Always 👌🏻
You should do a video over Warrant Officers and OCS. How to become a Warrant Officer and how long different routes would take
@TheRomanTribune
6 жыл бұрын
Great question !! I'd love to be a warrant officer myself
I ship out to basic September 4th! Thanks so much for helping me out and making videos matt they have been so helpful and inspiring
@travisdenny8283
6 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Preza Ayeeee. I ship out May 21st. What base are you going to?
@elizabethpreza5953
6 жыл бұрын
Travis Douglas fort Jackson!!
@connormurphy1964
6 жыл бұрын
Ill be gradutating at Jackson a couple days before you leave haha
@mattpaolicelli7327
6 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Preza me too! Where are you going?
@elizabethpreza5953
6 жыл бұрын
Matt Paolicelli fort Jackson 😌
Dude you are like google for army recruitment, there is a video for almost any question recruits will ask, how do you do it?
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5 жыл бұрын
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5 жыл бұрын
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5 жыл бұрын
People ask him
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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Yes, the MOS and type of Unit you are in affect how fast or how far you can go in rank. When I was in Maintenance, 45L Artillery Mechanic and 45K Tank Turret Mechanic upward rank mobility was OK. When I was an 88M I was promoted from E-5 to E-6 and had a path to move up if I would have stayed 88M. I transferred to the Band and that was total rank gridlock. Old guys hang on to their positions forever. I joined as an E-6 and could not move up so I retired at age 50 with 22 years in the Army National Gaurd. If I would have stayed in as an 88M I would have had a real chance to reach E-7. My time in the band was interesting and I was called on to drive the Units LMTV and teach others how to operate it. I also was in charge of the Unit Weapons Vault. I was also one the few Soldiers int he Unit with Combat Patches. It was tough trying to keep up musically with other musicians who had Masters Degrees in instrumental performance. There were also several Band Teachers and with that several SJWs who were annoying.
I also believe it is 1 up and 1 down when it comes to slots, For example if a unit has a slot open for a E-5 supply sergeant then I believe a E-4 can take the slot and be promoted and hold the slot as E-6, but once he hits E-7 then he will get transferred
While stationed in Germany 1982 the cutoff score to make E-5 was 999. When I got orders to be sent to my next duty station at Ft. Riley KS. in mid 1982 the cut off score dropped to 450. My MOS at that time was 31M10. MultiChannel Comm operator. I made E-5 32 mos
He actually forgot to say one crucial thing: many people leave the army after a few years so of course you will have less of the higher ranks as well.
Ohio National Guard 14G enlisting as an E-3. I leave for basic in April. I’m ready to grind!
I remember being in the National Guard. It super hard to get promoted because there is little turnover. There were 2 other SPCs waiting to get promoted. They went to PLDC and were promotable in 97 before I even joined in 98. But when the slot opened up, I had more points so I was promoted.
Thanks for you videos, just graduated today!
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
Congrats!!!!
yes it does every mos has a certain amount of promotion points required to get promoted past E-4 and every mos only has so many NCO slots per fiscal year so depending on what you are you might need to wait until more NCOs ETS for the promotion points to go down for you to get that slot
I was a 91A Combat Medic, finished as a Spec-4. July 1986-July 1989 HHB 2nd. Battn./ 34th. Field Artillery Ft. Sill, Ok.
It's very important to pick a mos That has a civilian counterpart as to be able to get decent work. Also pick something That you like doing, because you will be doing it a long time and if it's not something you like it becomes slavery .ofcourse ,at 17 or 18 ,it's very difficult to know what you want to do in your life .But do not let a recruiter just give you a job based on the needs of the military, it's usually what nobody else wants to do .A good part of enjoying the military is doing something you love to to do
Every MOS has different point system, also you have to be in the right unit at the right time. Being 11B it was easy to get promoted compared to a medic for example
Hey Matt, you should do a live stream Q&A one day! All of your videos are very helpful but I feel a lot of people like myself have more personal questions you might could help with
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
I do them like every week.. lol
@nipnan8417
6 жыл бұрын
Matt Ward oh sorry! I’m newer to your channel I guess I haven’t seen you do one yet
Many years ago, I was a 98J20/30 in the old ASA. There weren't too many of us even in the Agency, so promotion was pretty quick, if you kept your nose clean, mouth shut, and did the job well. I made SP5/E5 in 21 months from my date of enlistment. Not bad at all. I also worked with the USAF Security Service in Berlin, and zoomies with the same job I had were mostly E-3s with the same time in service as me. I really felt sorry for them. Oh well, the luck of the draw, I guess.
Sergeant Majors can stay in the service (Army) for 30yrs + and command Sergeant Majors if assigned to a General or flag officer can stay a lot longer if the their bosses request them to remain in the service.
Thanks for the info
So I’m fast tracking my rank. I’m 11B pv2 as of now I start Attending to my state University after I get back from AIT. I’m going to do Airborn and extra stuff. Then I’ll be attending ROTC. Jump I graduate from my university in 2023. Talk about private to officer in 4 years I’ll be doing OCS, as well after my 6 years of my contact I’ll be doing Active 20 years as 31A zoom zoom lol
The points constantly change too. My MOS was at 798 and when a bunch of people left the points dropped and I got promoted
Very helpful thank you
So i am not from the USA but from the netherlands and and i want to thank you for your vids about the tips about the basic training. I know the training is different here but your tips can be helpfull. I am beginning my militairy training on the 9th of april
@frostynovnet4561
6 жыл бұрын
michal sus Never quit.
you have the most helpful information thank you #bestmilitaryKZreadr
98G4HRUC8 now 35PRU - went in PV2 (High School ROTC) PFC upon completion of Basic, SP4 at one year SP5 at 24 months, SP6 at 5 years, later converted to SSG, SFC at 11 years MSG at 14 years then CW2
Especially E-5 and E-6 and the points vary directly based off MOS.
It's pretty much the same way in the armed forces as a whole. My brother is a corpsman in the Navy and promotions can get rough there. He's been in for about 8 years and he's an E-4, but there are some rates in the Navy where people of that same TIS are getting considered for E-7.
@bethanyblankinship3367
5 жыл бұрын
Yoshi_IX my husband has been in the navy for 2 years and he’s about to get pinned E-5 he’s a damage controlman
FYI, if an e-5 infantry re-ups to another mos, he took a slot of an actual soldier who has been in the mos for a long time. so by chance if a soldier been in the mos for 3 years and didn't make the cut off to make e-5, then all of a sudden a infantry e-5 sergeant re-up to changed mos, he could be straight out of mos school, have no experience in the new mos and telling a bunch of e-4's who dont respect him kuz he has no idea what he doing but they gotta respect the rank
Yes especially if you are in the reserves, or the guard. .
Everyone at RSP talks about you, Matt. 😂
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
Tell them I said hey :) haha
Are you currently still active duty Matt? I'm about 95% ready to enlist. Went to MEPS but had everything go okay, except for dental. Actually getting it taken care of tomorrow (well today I wake up early sometimes lol). So once I've gotten it taken care of I'm all set to go back to MEPS for my oath etc. But somehow came around your videos, I really appreciate everything. Probably watched 30 of em lol.
the topic of this video was a question i didnt even think to ask
First comment!!and thanks for the info bro😁
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
Danggg you got 3rd.... lol Any time man!
@itszenjii8773
6 жыл бұрын
Matt Ward idk if you remember me but I messaged you on insta and I didn't think you were gonna reply, I'm going.into the army in a couple months!!
'The Big Army' I like that phrase
Brother My wife and I originally from Kurdistan of iraq and we both 09L we will be in training soon, Pray for us .
Also according to the chart you can be E7 for exactly 20 years
11-B for life!
I remember you Chief Secretary staff sergeant at one of mine Medal of Honor ceremony 😂
Some roles in England allow you to start at lance corporal but after a year of training
Warrant officer that has to be the best rank in service...not fully an officer but not enlisted that sweet chosen spot in the middle. I hope m.p. rank up fairly if not it's all good
@LeeEngle
4 жыл бұрын
Used to be a lot better, then they started commissioning us at CW3. We used to wear Warrant Officer Corps brass (as on my uniform) and brown trim for WO. Now, wear Branch Brass (MI for me) and Branch Color (Oriental Blue for MI). We had distinctive headgear, now we wear company grade hat for W1-CW2 and Field Grade Hat for CW3 and above
Could you make a video about how MOS' s are labeled? More specifically why it gets labeled a certain number and letter (12Y, 36W, etc.)
@MattWard89
6 жыл бұрын
From my knowledge it literally means nothing.. it could but i don’t think there is much meaning behind it. It’s the same reason an apple is called an apple. It’s because somebody names it that. Haha
@LeeEngle
4 жыл бұрын
The number is the general field of specialty and the letter is your specialty within that area My MOS is 35P 35= Military Intelligence P = Voice Intercept Operator a 35N is a SIGINT analyst, etc.
So, I wonder. If your time to get promoted runs out, is there another option besides getting "kicked out" if you don't make the cut for promotion? Like an option to get demoted for example? Unless that's what you were referring to as getting kicked out - as in out of your rank, not out of the army entirely.
Does anybody know a way to reclass out of a under strengthened mos to another under strength mos
From British Royal Air Force. What is an MOS? I might be going out to visit you guys if I get lucky and get flown to hms queen Elizabeth so been watching 2Lt Wards videos. Interesting stuff, Flt Lt Walsh (Ps Flt Lt is equivelant to captain as our ranks our slightly different to yours in officers and very different for enlisted!)
Hey Matt this is a different question but is 25b AIT hard? That's what I'm going for and I love tech. I'm just scared that I might fail out or have to pick another MOS after failing. I ship june 12
Short answer is yes you are welcome
I'm Owen, the first viewer from the Insta live story.
Enlisted a few months ago as a 68 Whiskey, so this will be interesting
@cjay4152
4 жыл бұрын
Enrique Merli update? How’s 68W life going? Any tips?
All-Source Intelligence Analyst is fastest rank and everyone that stayed in made E-9, (all Airborne and spent most career in Group) also 100 percent selection Warrant.
Can you find out if it's easy to promote on an MOS by looking at in and out calls? If In is Y for SGT SSG SFC does it mean that you have good chances to promote?
The title sounds like a science fair topic.
Can't get promoted if you're not commissioned or enlisted. (Bad eyesight ruined my chances.) Used to be that combat soldiers (infantry, artillery, armor) got promoted faster and to higher ranks than clerks and x-ray technicians.
Signal guys seem to make E7 real fast at least they did in the early 2000s there were so many baby faced E7's.
im hoping 31 bravo has an available opening in April when i go back to meps to swear in and get my mos
@williambraxk4132
6 жыл бұрын
Reck Skull i go in april to hopefully they have 11b open
You should make a video on how to stretch for the pt test
@frostynovnet4561
6 жыл бұрын
Granola Bar Reviews There are a plethora of videos on KZread on how to prepare for the physical fitness test
Simple answer is YES
I always wondered how that worked... I was 21B and only cared to do my 4 years. Lol
Hello! :) Can you please make a video regarding specialist mafias?
Is there an "up or out" policy among enlisted rank promotions that aren't automatic?
I’m wanting to go to the army, but I want to go in as a general
is that means the score more lower the more easier to get promoted if you keep in the same mos?
Hey I’m a 25b here at Fort Gordon I just got here last week I wanted to know could I get promoted here? And what are some helpful tips to help me be successful here and pass my classes.
YES!
Does pay stay the same in each rank?? Like if you were a E6. Would your pay stay the same through the time you are an E6 or would it increase even though you haven't been promoted to E7??
Didn't it take an OK from Congress to get to be SFC or Master Sergeant? Or was that just during the 1970s?
I've been looking around everywhere but can't seem to find a straight answer about what the food in basic is like. I heard in the Navy most meals have a meat option (Chicken, pork, beef, etc) but I was curious about what your experience was like.
@josephsanders6253
6 жыл бұрын
Bob Cuamacus honestly the food in Fort Sill was pretty great. But trust me you're not really gonna care about the food. Even if it's not good to you, put ketchup on it and eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
@brianhubbell8770
6 жыл бұрын
hot sauce always helps
Are promote points required as well to obtain the rank of E7 and of so could you put a list for that?
You should go over field promotions or some other odd promotions hmmm. That package is pretty long there.. Could you summarize that?
Sure the points are low in the infantry but how many of those soldiers are actually sent/allowed to get their P status?
Can you be originally from a combat mos and be the 1st Sgt or Command Sgt Myr in a different mos non combat unit?
My MOs did. 31B10, I think. It was 54 years ago.
does anyone know the ST score you need to be qualified for mos 31B? is it 91 or 95?
Matt does completing the Defense Language Institute grant points
So if you are in the reserves and national guard do you have to rank up?
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@Homie101
6 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Cardoso YUT!!!!!
Can someone explain wat it means for if my "PZ" is 798 & my "SZ" is 500(I wanna be a 36b plz)?