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I’m married to an ethnically Chinese woman who was born in Vietnam. She speaks Cantonese and Vietnamese natively and fluently. The two languages sounded interchangeable to me at first because they’re both a roller coaster ride of tones. But there are certain sounds in Vietnamese you just don’t hear in Cantonese.

Cantonese + Hokkien + Wenzhounese = Vietnamese

Thanks, all languages are different, otherwise there would be no need to divide languages .🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm Vietnamese, I don't understand anything when I listen to Cantonese, I don't understand the languages in Southeast Asia even more, 🤣🤣😂😂 then I hear Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Tibetan ,........all are different, Cantonese sounds similar to Hakka😌😌, same to 90%

You know theres like 3 major vietnamese accent that probably sound like 3 different languages to non native. Even as a native like myself I struggle to understand people in central Vietnam. Cantonese sound very similar to southern vietnamese accent. Alot of words also share the same meaning. Keep in mind theres sino vietnamese words and then theres origin.

Vietnamese is a language with 6 clear tones, and is a monosyllabic language, but the grammar is similar to Austroasiatic,That means the adjective will come after the noun, in some cases it is necessary to use Chinese grammar,then the adjective will come before the noun, like in translating Chinese movies, making poetry, ancestor worship procedures,about vocabulary there are 70% are ancient Chinese words used in legal documents, but in normal communication, only 30% are ancient Chinese words. , Even though we used Chinese characters in the past, we don't understand what Chinese people say today, even though we hold 70%-80% of ancient Chinese words,But when in talking, I don't understand anything. . We have to write Chinese characters down so we can understand each other. In short, we are a separate language, even though we have vocabulary influences from ancient China, but in the end we are foreigners and have nothing to do with China, our language is not like any other,(any country in Asia), because we cannot understand each other,🤣🤣 I think perhaps Chinese characters is a means of communication between ethnic groups of the same culture, but it does not mean that these ethnic groups have the same language, for example, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and Vietnamese are completely different grammar, no one can understand anyone without writing Chinese characters.

@Fgh56-eq9pp

10 күн бұрын

The Vietnamese initially spoke the Chinese language, then borrowed words from the Muong ethnic group to create creole. The only reason Vietnamese is considered an Austroasiatic language is the small proportion of consonant words from Muong, in Vietnam.

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

5 күн бұрын

​@@Fgh56-eq9pp What? Our daily talking we dont use anything like Chinese

you can’t compare it like this. she speak it in a softer tone. compare it correctly and you see it sound similar

similar because both language came from middle dynasty

If Vietnamese removes all bed sounds, it sounds 100% like Cantonese.

Yes it sounds like cantonese I'm from thighland

0:08 As vietnamese in the first sentence I heard "Ngon... *tiếng tàu* ...cục bò"

Vietnamese has this weird obsession to claim similarity with Cantonese is just bizarre and embarrassing. Both are two different language family with no linguistic connection, different vowel sound. Vietnam and Guangzhou don't even share a land border.

@khangaroo8166

7 ай бұрын

No việt person is trying to claim it, it’s always foreigners who makes these comparisons

@miming9409

Ай бұрын

It's hallerious for you to say Vietnamese claimed this and that while the truth is, I've heard many other races asking the Vietnamese people if they were speaking chinese 😂

@Fgh56-eq9pp

10 күн бұрын

ベトナム人は当初中国語を話し、その後ムオン族の言葉を借用してクレオールを作成しました。ベトナム語がオーストロアジア言語とみなされている唯一の理由は、ベトナムのムオン語の子音単語の割合が少ないことです。

@pomodoro385

7 күн бұрын

@@miming9409 You just proved my point by shifting the claims to other races. 🤣🤣 Vietnamese sounds like Thai, just ask any Southeast Asians.

@pomodoro385

7 күн бұрын

@@Fgh56-eq9pp My Vietnamese friend, Vietnamese are native to Vietnam, which is homeland of Austro-Asiatic.

Sounds to me like Cantonese use your tongue more while Vietnamese uses your throat

@Charles_von_Deiner_Toilett

Жыл бұрын

I think Cantonese uses dentals more and Vietnamese uses more back vowels.

@BaoTran-jo1zk

Жыл бұрын

They both use throat. Cantonese and Vietnamese both have 6 tones

i am vietnamese , and yes kinda , some words actually pronounce same

While the differences are noticable, particularly in the usage of V and Z sounds in Vietnamese, I find it strange that it's compared to Hong Kong Cantonese as opposed to the standard prestige dialect from Guangzhou, seeing as the Vietnamese shown here is the Northern prestige dialect.

@purpleyellow8555

Жыл бұрын

Hello... I used the Hongkong cantonese as a comparison because it's hard for me to find the material from Guangzhou.

@johngtran

11 ай бұрын

The Northern Viet accent is the Vietnamese standard as that where Viet people originally from before expansion to the South. Also, Viet people (Kinh ethnic) are mixture of Southern Chinese and local people from Northern Vietnam today.

Viet has a little more of that sound coming from the throat, almost a gulping sound (idk what you call that). That's how I can differentiate it. Otherwise, yeah I can hear similarities.

@aidungeon2591

8 ай бұрын

and you are correct. it sounds like a duck talking meanwhile cantonese sounds like they are talking using their whole mouths area.

this is North Vietnamese

Not really . But for untrained ears they might sound somewhat remotely similar. Vietnamese sounds like Thai language mixed with some Chinese vocals .

They sound different, the Cantonese sounds more similar to the Viet Southern accent, but the one in the video is from the north

Very nice on you using Vietnamese Northern dialect to compare with Cantonese which sounds like Vietnamese Southern dialect making people more confused.

No no, Vietnamese was influenced by both Chinese dialect from Cantonese and Teochew. Therefore, there are some loanwords in the Vietnamese language

@khangaroo8166

4 ай бұрын

no, vietnamese was influenced by middle chinese like the other sinospheric countries (korea and japan).

Similar or not similar, actually doesn't matter much, most Vietnamese people cannot recognize which country they are similar to? Because basically, Vietnam is different from anyone else, Vietnam always has its own genetic code, is a large genetic code group of Asia,so many people think Cantonese is similar to Vietnamese, and after this video they realized the truth. , not at all similar, Vietnamese people of Chinese origin, they come from China, of course they must see that they are similar to Chinese people and they love China, and Vietnamese people see China as a threat, the language does not overlap. Well, that's completely beneficial for national defense and security. We're just afraid you'll understand. If you don't understand, we'll be even happier. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

5 күн бұрын

I understand?

Question is do they understand each other. I can tell the difference from when someone is speaking Cantonese from when someone is speaking viet.

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

5 күн бұрын

Vietnamese here. I dont understand a single word

Northern Vietnam accent sounds like Cantonese but Central and.Southern accent doesnt. Southern accent may sounds more like Cambodian or Thai i think

Both sound different. Vietnamese vowels are similar with Thai and Laos. Just look it up.

@princeedward5518

8 ай бұрын

Nope

@tobacco118

8 ай бұрын

@@princeedward5518 Get over your complex. It's embarrassing for Vietnamese really.

@princeedward5518

8 ай бұрын

@@tobacco118 have problem whit your ear??

@tobacco118

8 ай бұрын

@@princeedward5518 Vietnamese have deep complex abt its own identity, very sad

@sontranxuan4587

4 ай бұрын

Why we have to look up for anything when we know we are cousins. It's just what it is. Cantonese actually closer to Vietnamese in some aspect, even more than northern Han Chinese. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z3ii2siFf6zKoZs.htmlsi=GKWyUbUU6C1qNyey

Not the same but by compare word by word, you will se the familiar.

You should listen to VN music and CT music to feel clearer differences. Both countries have their own languages from the ancient time. A language sounding good or bad is a sign of having lastingly been prosperous or not of a territory as voice in particular and art in general requires money and time to develop, and VN was always better. 4000 years ago, before CT was invaded by the Qin dynasty of CN, VN and CT was brothers and CT people often migrated down to VN for better Fengshui. Ethnically, CT is closer to Cambodian than VN, so except for similar sino vocabulary, CT pronunciation is so much different from VN and sounds more similar to Cambodian, CT sounds so much hasher and more nasal than VN. CT people also look more like CBD than VN for their dark skins and sharp faces. Though having many differences, the relationship between ancient VN and CT was tight and was similar to the Mongolian groups, coz VN and CT share the same story of their fairy ancestors. Also, they used to be united in Zhaotuo dynasty along with the Qin dynasty of the ancient CN. And, after wars with CN, many VN heroes like Trung sisters received numerous temples in a vast area of South CN from Dongting lake to the south, (below zhangjiang river), which proof that a piece of VN history book survived from fire set from CN invaders was true, South CN use to be a part of VN and CT. In sum, VN and CT are different, but in history, they were brothers in one kingdom called Yuenan. Anceint CN army with their horses then came and changed many things, including cultural and political aspects that decide the thinking about oirigin of CT people, made them forget about the real history and the sight for community's benefits.

I agree, but I don't think Cantonese people lie quitto gel for their nails.

Now use southern vietnamese samples. Despite being more far away to china, it sounds much more like cantonese

@moslyjeb3090

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like Cambodian

really not the same, Cantonese belongs to the Sino-Tibetan group, Vietnamese belongs to the Vietic group. I think the Han-Tibetan language group is highly homogeneous, around it are the Koreanic group, the Japonic group, the Mongolic group and finally our Vietic group,China is exactly what it means to be "中國",🤣🤣🤣

Vietnamese sound like duck 😅

@miming9409

Ай бұрын

So ridiculous ly disrespectful 😂

I'm Cantonese But Vietnamese always Have a strange tone, and maybe some of its pronunciation is a bit like Cantonese.

@Explore_everything_90

8 ай бұрын

yes,i agree, I also see that the two languages have different speaking styles, Vietnamese speaks very clearly and decisively, Cantonese sounds close to Hakka, you guys are Chinese surely, I have no prejudice, but really That's the reality, 🤔😔

@LennoNg01

8 ай бұрын

@@Explore_everything_90 In fact, Hakka pronounce is a combination of Cantonese and Hokkien

@Explore_everything_90

8 ай бұрын

@@LennoNg01 but they are a different ethnic , they are like you, i heard hokkien, hokkien is not the same as your language, Vietnamese is not the same as any other language, it's no different than finding another language similar to Korean and Japanese.

@LennoNg01

8 ай бұрын

@@Explore_everything_90 Actually, I can speak Cantonese and Hokkien In fact, there are similarities between the three languages in pronunciation.

@LennoNg01

8 ай бұрын

@@Explore_everything_90 No, they all belong to the Han nationality. These three people are descendants of the combination of the northern Han nationality in ancient China and the local nationality.

To me Vietnamese sounds like Cantonese mixed with Thai.

@BaoTran-jo1zk

11 ай бұрын

Sounds nothing like Thai though

@YaeMikoF2P-pu9pn

3 ай бұрын

Nothing like thai, thai sound like indian

Vietnamese in this video is the North Vietnamese. We have more dialect: the Middle Vietnamese, South Vietnamese, and West Vietnamese 💥

I think Vietnamese sounds similar to Chinese in general

@hayabusa1329

Жыл бұрын

No...only Cantonese to some extend. Mandarin sounds nothing like Vietnamese

@joeybboy3433

Жыл бұрын

@@hayabusa1329 now that I’ve been learning mandarin for 2 years, I would never mistake Vietnamese for mandarin. However, there was a long time when I did. Maybe you say that because you speak mandarin? Quite frankly, unless you know specific words in a language, you can’t possibly identify just based on accent.

@hayabusa1329

Жыл бұрын

@@joeybboy3433 mandarin and Vietnamese sounds so different even a westerner should be able to tell the difference easily. You probably didn't care enough to tell the difference back then.

@joeybboy3433

Жыл бұрын

@@hayabusa1329 1. What is your language background? 2. That’s just rude for you to say. Trust me I did care that’s why I was trying to listen. 3. I bet if we did a study of playing the 2 back and forth for a westerner to distinguish, they would fail most of the time. Like I said, the only reason I can tell now is because I have listened to a ton of Vietnamese conversation and I study mandarin. So I can tell that it’s not mandarin and then guess based on the accent. I haven’t been wrong to recent knowledge but that’s taken 2 years to get here. Either im not as gifted as you on this or you have this language background and you can’t relate to the experience on a non sinospheric language speaker. Well?

@hayabusa1329

Жыл бұрын

@@joeybboy3433 I speak Chinese mandarin too but they clearly sound so different. It's ignorant to think these two languages even sounds the same... My white Australian friends could even tell the difference without speaking either language.

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Southern vietnamese accent sound more like cantonese.

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

5 күн бұрын

No Southern accent is more sweet and softer

No it does not sound similar. - native HK canto speaker.

@YorgosL1

Ай бұрын

then what does it sound similar to. I’m also a native HK speaker

@miming9409

Ай бұрын

​@YorgosL1 So why admitted by many other races then?

As a southern Vietnamese, I try to imitate Cantonese without any difficulties in pronunciation. The length of the word is usually sound evenly meaning Vietnames and Cantonese are choppy languages, imagine thowring rocks to a lake continuously, that how it sounds, vowel and consonant sound are very similar to southern Vietnamese, especially the word “d” or “dz” in Cantonese

I am a Cantonese and my mother tongue is Cantonese. I cannot understand Vietnamese at all. These are two different languages. Vietnam was ruled by China in ancient times, so there are some Chinese words.

@johngtran

2 ай бұрын

If your ancestors are from Southern China, you are a Yue/Viet im ancient time. Today China is different from ancient China.

@YorgosL1

Ай бұрын

you are no cantonese wuzhishen

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

5 күн бұрын

Vietnamese here I cant understand a single word Cantonese

@YorgosL1

4 күн бұрын

@@ThanhLe-bu8ix they are not that difficult

@ThanhLe-bu8ix

4 күн бұрын

@@YorgosL1 i dont know they are difficult or not im just showing that Vietnamese and Cantonese cant understand each other

As a Chinese of Cantonese descent, Vietnamese sounds like Thai and Cambodian to me.

@quantrinhhong3125

Жыл бұрын

Your cantonese is like thai too, you're not sounds like madarin, it's like thai more ::)... vietnamese's tone and sino (like sinos japan, sinos korea) it's like cantonese (i know some words like madarin) but it's get to close catonese and a little french ! Not thai and cambodian.

@BaoTran-jo1zk

Жыл бұрын

Nah not Thai and Cambodian. More like Cantonese

@espadac4746

Жыл бұрын

@@BaoTran-jo1zk Maybe to you Viets but to us Chinese, nope. It sounds completely similar to other Austronesian languages.

@BaoTran-jo1zk

Жыл бұрын

@@espadac4746 Wdym “you Viets”? I am also significant partial Chinese. For most Vietnamese and Thai people, Vietnamese doesn’t sound like Thai. Many Vietnamese find Thai sounds funny and weird. For one thing, the Thai vocabulary contains a large number of Indo-European words - as much as 50% of the language’s total repertoire - borrowed from Indian classical languages (Sanskrit and Pali); whereas about 70% of Vietnamese words are Chinese in origins. That’s why I say Vietnamese is similar to Cantonese. They are extremely similar vocabulary wise, and pronunciation wise. They share a lot of the same vocabulary and both have 6 tones.

@BaoTran-jo1zk

Жыл бұрын

@@espadac4746 also Vietnamese is very different than Cambodian. I can tell the difference immediately when I hear them. Cambodia uses consonant clusters while Vietnamese "does not", and Cambodian is not tonal.