Well yeah duh of course it does, ya pleb. I'm playing it right now.

@shelbania

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, nice.

@REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS

3 жыл бұрын

I read that right as he said it

@Snickerdoodle06

3 жыл бұрын

So original

@Snickerdoodle06

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@user_hat

3 жыл бұрын

@@REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS same

Great video! I think an important question here is, are you having fun? That is sometimes more important than if its "vanilla" or not :-)

@SIGSEGV1337

3 жыл бұрын

xisuma pog

@maxdinok7976

3 жыл бұрын

Do you consider Datapacks vanilla? Or not?

@DiamondDuk

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed

@FoxBoi69

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxdinok7976 i think so, since it is only on the world you install it and anyone with the "vanilla game" has those features. unlike things like the carpet mod wich is basically vanilla tweaks as a mod (and therefore more features that still feel "vanilla" like movable tile entities

@Artorvian

3 жыл бұрын

X, you gotta rename 'Vanilla Tweaks" to something like, "What would, for most people, be considered vanilla tweaks, but could be argued otherwise," now haha

By this definition, technically joining a world with a custom skin is not vanilla

@flameoguy3804

3 жыл бұрын

Steve is the vanilla skin though

@spicytoast6890

3 жыл бұрын

Thats true, nearly no one plays true vanilla anymore unless you are on bedrock, id say using default skins from is vanilla, but downloading anything from the shop is not vanilla besides maps.

@sevret313

3 жыл бұрын

By this definition, playing Pokemon with a custom name is not vanilla. It is a terrible argument and I don't see why SimplySarc is using it. It makes the word vanilla meaningless. Vanilla ice-cream is no longer vanilla becauase there is a spoon in it.

@spicytoast6890

3 жыл бұрын

@@sevret313 wdym playing pokemon

@sevret313

3 жыл бұрын

@@spicytoast6890 I've not played any of the newer games, but in the older games at least you had a list of names for your character to pick between and the option for selecting your own name. The name you write yourself might not exist anywhere in the game, but that doesn't make the game less vanilla.

"Herobrine doesn't have a single byte of data in the game's code" Looks at changelog suspiciously

@InCompet4nt

3 жыл бұрын

also the MHF_Herobrine head means herobrine's name is included in the actual code ONCE. The changelog is not in the code

@strawberrana

3 жыл бұрын

no he got removed

@KorewaWolfi

3 жыл бұрын

I would like this, but sadly it's at 69

@KorewaWolfi

3 жыл бұрын

@@InCompet4nt the change log always says that they removed herobrine, i think that they added it once for some reason, then left it alone

@sameman6884

3 жыл бұрын

@@InCompet4nt I do believe he is also in a splash text somewhere

The real question is: *when will we get chocolate Minecraft?*

@mineland8220

3 жыл бұрын

Ask the doom community for that

@Euphoria0001

3 жыл бұрын

What about strawberry Minecraft?

@Euphoria0001

3 жыл бұрын

And why is no one talking about pistachio Minecraft

@hellonicetomeetyou2711

3 жыл бұрын

Or FRENCH VANILLA😳😲😳

@bornundersaturnz

3 жыл бұрын

I’m one step ahead, chocolate chip Minecraft

Sometimes I would call modded "Chocolate" because of humor for "vanilla" being used

@Starman064

3 жыл бұрын

same

@aoe9015

3 жыл бұрын

@Yung Katt 0_o Strawberry usually sucks

@invertebrate_king1487

3 жыл бұрын

aoe Strawberry is literal trash, every time I eat it it’s like they pumped it with every fruit except Strawberry

@Greenpixel16

3 жыл бұрын

Tweaks to the game, like datapacks, are 'vanilla with chocolate chips'

@KingJake-om7yq

3 жыл бұрын

Blu Jazz I did that too!

Imagine being such a good flavour that you literally are thought of as the default..... Like seriously, vanilla is just godly at what it has done.

@user_hat

2 жыл бұрын

it's vanilla becuase vanilla is basic

@cowboy9348

2 жыл бұрын

@@user_hat it’s got vanilla in it. That stuff is hella strong. Taste delicious

@Akhimed

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr sometimes randomly you just feel like having some vanilla if you know what I mean Damn that stuff hits hard

@Epic_pufferfish

2 жыл бұрын

Vanilla IS A GAME TYPE VANILLA MINECRAFT IS A VERSION OF MINECRAFT THAT IS BEDROCK AND JAVA

@Epic_pufferfish

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t even know what hermit craft is and I play Minecraft Java + bedrock edition aka SPECIAL EDITION

Alternative title, Sarc has an existential crisis about Minecraft.

@Walmart_self_checkout

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@tobystick9728

3 жыл бұрын

That's every one of his videos. He's always having an existential crisis about minecraft.

@SuicidalLaughter

3 жыл бұрын

not really a crises just a post modern analysis

@mikaeelmuazzam8649

3 жыл бұрын

Me whos the 221st like: i guide others to a treasure I cannot posses

@redtro8678

2 жыл бұрын

​@@SuicidalLaughter literally, although pretty surface level so it lacks a lot of substance

This guy is like the Tom Scott of minecraft.

@nelumboandrews6762

3 жыл бұрын

He is it just clicked for me

@origamisquid9895

3 жыл бұрын

agreed

@emilybennett4571

3 жыл бұрын

Yes agreed

@dorenn

3 жыл бұрын

That’s literally the best comparison I could have seen

@toobig7150

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, you are right.

Your in-game animations are getting so much more complex, they look flawless and share the exact same tone of the video. That quick jump at 5:16 is just hilarious and suits the matter at hand with perfect timing, for instance. I hope there are more people that appreciate not only your genuinely interesting and innovative ideas, but also the level of polishing of your visual work. Great work, as always!

@ethenaux

3 жыл бұрын

I also loved that moment! Had to pause it and rewatch it twice. I think these little details is what makes his videos so great! (For example a potato on a stick in the 'Minecraft trends' video or a hidden diamond under a bed to represent 'a rough diamond' in the 'What Else is the Nether Update Missing?' video.)

@davidgumazon

3 жыл бұрын

SimplySarc must watch Steve in Smash and plays as Steve and become pro smash for breakfast!

@joantorruella4891

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t even what to know how much that fraction of a second long part of the video that i didn’t realised happened took to make

"To a game where you can play tic-tac-toe" *Shows checkers*

@SimplySarc

3 жыл бұрын

TIL tic-tac-toe and checkers aren't the same thing.

@phantompig

3 жыл бұрын

SimplySarc lol

@SkimBee

3 жыл бұрын

SimplySarc Sarc: makes documentaries about minecraft Also sarc: doesn’t know the difference between a game we all played in class at some point or a game that’s popular enough to just exist in public

@KitTheAnkafolk

3 жыл бұрын

@@SimplySarc Yet you showed checkers lol

@ruskflux

3 жыл бұрын

wow keep it up a stack of likes

My personal definition is that "Vanilla" is wholly unmodified minecraft, the default version that's created, developed, and maintained officially by Mojang Studios. The whole angle of saying "which developer?" doesn't really feel relevant to me. But this isn't the full story, because I don't believe "modded" is just "not vanilla". My definition of "modded" is that the game has been modified to the point that vanilla clients would be unable to connect to a server running with those modifications. If you want to play minecraft with your friends, and go wild with new features through datapacks and plugins and server-side mods, and your friends can just join with the normal, default client that Mojang Studios has created, then I don't think it's modded, but it's not really vanilla either. If you're wondering "Well, what about singleplayer?", the definition actually extends to that as well if we consider LAN worlds. If you make a singleplayer world, open it to LAN, and get a friend to connect, then I'd say it's modded if they're unable to. If there's some mod like, say, Tinker's Construct, then obviously they wouldn't really be able to connect without getting the mod. But stuff like commands, datapacks, resource packs... I wouldn't really consider those modded. An interesting question to this that have a hard time answering here is, what about client-side mods? When 1.16 came out and I updated my server, I played on (mostly) vanilla. Then I got optifine, and that changes things like the render distance fog, and can completely remove it. Then, I switched over to Fabric, a mod launcher... that's still compatible with vanilla, at least by default. I ran something to use optifine on that platform, but the reason I switched to it was for a mod called Carpet Mod, by Gnembon. In singleplayer, that lets me change the game speed, measure item outputs, lag, and many, many, many other things that definitely aren't vanilla. But all these modifications lie on the internal server, and if I opened it to LAN, vanilla clients would be able to connect... I think. When I connected to my server, I couldn't use these features because they weren't on the server. But then I got more mods, which blur the line way further. With replay mod, I can record actions and play them back later, and it can record data on servers as well... So now, I have functionality that I added to minecraft that kinda works on servers... but it's not really changing the gameplay when I'm there. Then I got MiniHUD, and with it, I can render shapes and light levels, and I can see these things on the server I'm playing on... Which is vanilla. So now, I can change gameplay while still playing on an unmodified version of the server. But of course, other players can't see this stuff, so it's still not really, *truly*, modded... is it? If we think back to optifine, you can buy a cape. When you buy a cape, you can customize it, and it'll appear on your elytra... and anyone else who has optifine will see your cape, even on vanilla servers. So now you have functionality that can be shared between users without the server being changed itself... So yeah! Not really sure where this ends. The definition of both "vanilla" AND "modded" can be stretched back and forth to seemingly no end. But I think this is great! Such a diverse player base, the biggest of any video game on the planet, should have blurred lines. After all, what's the point in playing minecraft, if you can't play it how you want to?

@exoskeletons

3 жыл бұрын

What about datapacks?

@thelastxgamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@exoskeletons Wouldn't consider those vanilla or modded. Vanilla clients can connect to a server with em, but they're not the version mojang develops. It's not the best definition, but as this video proves, there's never gonna be one true definition.

@Cenextraisreallycool

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus that was long

@vibaj16

3 жыл бұрын

Someone playing in 1.14 can’t connect to a server that only runs on 1.16, but I think that both are still vanilla, so it’s still not very clear cut. I say anything that changes the game that isn’t officially from default Minecraft is modified: data packs, optifine, even plugins. But I think some things are more vanilla than others: optifine is more vanilla than a data pack that allows anyone to sleep.

@Cenextraisreallycool

3 жыл бұрын

VIBaJ 16 to me it doesn’t matter if it’s vanilla or not. All that matters is having fun and enjoying yourself

Yo sarc I would get that eye looked at it’s been black for the past few years

@exoskeletons

3 жыл бұрын

He's been through some things

@jamesleviathan8865

3 жыл бұрын

He just has a guy punch him every week or so

@bluesillybeard

3 жыл бұрын

I bet he hired someone to punch him regularily lol

@keepermovin5906

3 жыл бұрын

And he hasn’t fixed his torn shirt

for me vanilla is just anything that a fresh install can play multiplayer with without any downloads. I thought that every one thinks the same, apparently not.

@PenguinGuy17

3 жыл бұрын

yeah like no mods or plugins or anything, thats what it means lmao

@theairsoftpro2014

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, The only real thing that I can see where Sarc is coming from is the command blocks pretty much making their own games. Personally they're close to in game modding as you can get.

@cold_ultra

3 жыл бұрын

So no resource packs?

@PenguinGuy17

3 жыл бұрын

@@cold_ultra resource packs are good

@ccaagg

3 жыл бұрын

+Eli Nobody said anything about it being just the client... Isn't it implied that 'fresh install' goes for the jarfile too?

"Vanilla" is actually like the Overton-window everything inside the Overton-window is considered "vanilla" everything outside the Overton window is considered "modded" the Overton-window can always expand and change the meaning of vanilla

@davidarvingumazon5024

2 жыл бұрын

What? Pls repeat.

When command block mods were popular, many times they would be referred to as 'vanilla mods' as they technically aren't mods but are very close. Data packs are similar, but I feel move farther than command blocks as you are downloading things, but could be considered vanilla due to how minor they can.

@julk1732

3 жыл бұрын

well datapacks are more of a "here you got a bunch of options, add it if you want"-thing, they are vanilla, it is like saying that you want extra pickles on a burger or something like that...

@sameman6884

3 жыл бұрын

It's more like a french vanilla or vanilla bean (to continue the metaphor)

Well, there are people who consider that using keepinventory is totally non-vanilla. So yes, it is a very debatable topic.

@MoreInsane96

3 жыл бұрын

That's not about vanilla or not vanilla, that's about cheating

@derinwithaq5811

3 жыл бұрын

I consider it non-vanilla survival, considering it takes away a part of the intended survival experience

@shimo971

3 жыл бұрын

The only reason i use keep inventory sometimes is because loosing my gear just kills my drive for the game since i dont have all the time in the world to only get 3 diamonds.

@Unknownsoldier740

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you are doing. A speed run to the ender dragon? Definitely not fair. A survival only build? Not a single soul will care about that fact.

@jlewis4441

3 жыл бұрын

Well the way I see it, it's still an unmodded game, so vanilla for me.

I think when people consider what's vanilla, they consider what can be replicated in the broadest conditions. Or, probably, in THEIR conditions. For example, HermitCraft's Armor Stands can't be replicated on a server where that datapack isn't installed. On the other hand, most public servers run on Spigot, and Spigot is known to break things left right and center. A complicated redstone contraption that works on a pure vanilla server jar, will inevitably break on Spigot, which is the most _prominent_ server jar.

@iansarmiento23

3 жыл бұрын

This really has me thinking and this is what I think the difference Vanilla is what Mojang implements into Minecraft that includes commands. If it was made to modify the game through an external source like forge, then it's a mod. Spigot is tricky because it's both vanilla but it modifies the game through external sources but it doesn't allow new blocks and items. It's modded yes but it's more vanilla-modded

@agentjeyjey9757

3 жыл бұрын

Redstone contraptions breaking is.more a problem of papermc

@elnico5623

2 жыл бұрын

Minecraft: occam's razor

Like some other person was saying, ``My definition of "vanilla Minecraft" is a completely unmodified version of the game. No resource packs and no data packs.`` I am pretty sure this is what is the vanilla stuff.

"Let's talk about HermitCraft" That is my favorite part of the video.

I dunno man. This feels a lot like the "prescriptive vs. descriptive" linguistics debate. For me, if you start messing with the definition of what's "vanilla", all meaning starts to evaporate. I don't think a reasonable person would say naming or customising your character in an RPG made the game "not vanilla". And yet, the game is incapable of doing those things for you. Games themselves are a unique medium in that they are quintessentially interactive. Games like Minecraft just take this interaction to the nth degree. If you take any form of player interaction as a "modification", you lose any meaning of the term "vanilla" as it applies to games. To me, you have to draw a line, and that is the modification of the Minecraft.jar file by a 3rd party, especially when new functionality is added to the game, that would not be obtainable otherwise. A 3rd party being anyone who is not employed or contracted by Mojang or Microsoft's Minecraft development teams.

@R9000

3 жыл бұрын

@@nextgamingera2315 I mean, Minecraft can generate random structures to a limited degree, but it doesn't happen on its own. And those games that cannot generate random names or customisations, are not "modded" at the point where a player creates their avatar. My point is that you can't really conflate low-level (or in fact, any type of) player interaction with modding. I think of it like this: creating content within Minecraft is like playing with Lego, you're assembling building blocks and other elements that have been made and given to you, intended to slot together. Modding is like fabricating your own blocks from raw materials, which often create new combinations and new ways for the existing blocks to work together. Also sometimes your fabricated bits don't work properly with the parts you already have, and the whole thing falls apart into a pile of null pointer errors.

@RonDe675

3 жыл бұрын

I completely disagree. There are datapacks you can install that can alter the Terrain as if you are using a mod like mcedit. Is there anything wrong with using those? No. But can you compare something like that fairly to something built in vanilla? No.

@UraYukimitsu

3 жыл бұрын

​@@RonDe675 I'd say it can be quite fairly compared to something built with vanilla commands, though.

@R9000

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonDe675 I think there's definitely a case to be made for datapacks being classed as mods, since they seem to be almost soft code injection. But like, if I make a fresh install of minecraft and start up any given world, I don't think any amount of messing around in that world, whether with command blocks or otherwise, would make the game "not vanilla". As another example, Space Engineers has code blocks which enable you to literally write C# code to control your ship or station. You'd be hard-pressed to call using one of those "modding".

@V972

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with OP. W/o point of reference, w/o a line things lose meaning. And modifying game .jar is pretty good line. "Vanilla experience"TM doesn't end with bare MC anymore, it's not beta 1.8 or even 1.2.5. "Vanilla experience"TM now includes resource- and datapacks. Sure, no one is forced to used them, but we should acknowledge their presence in the game's framework (well, they ARE game framework), in the definition of Vanilla.

Nah, I play mint-chocolate chip edition.

@TheBert.

3 жыл бұрын

so, modpacks?

@lucabralia5125

3 жыл бұрын

pistachio edition is better

@onionbot2

3 жыл бұрын

but at least they’re both better than bed-rocky road

@toristanacc

3 жыл бұрын

@@onionbot2 Wow! What a totally funny and original reply!! I'm sure nobody has ever said that before! Such a hot take.

@ovrdseovrdse

3 жыл бұрын

@@onionbot2 trueeee

I've actually been thinking a lot about this same question! Great video. I think "Vanilla" is whatever people decide it to be at an individual level, drawing their own lines based on how they like to play.

i’m always amazed by the simple and pleasing to the eye the editing is in your videos. it’s such a nice step up to the usual minecraft videos where people are constantly screaming, using goofy sound effects, and being absolutely insane. this is such a nice change of pace. really underrated channel right here. good work 👍

Do vanilla Minecraft exists Me: yes Sarc: of course Also Sarc: is it?? Me: yes?? Sarc: good

@mistaplayinabox

3 жыл бұрын

video padding

@truediamant777

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistaplayinabox video padding

I'm not gonna lie, I think this is simpler than Sarc has made out. I'd like to present my humble opinion: Vanilla Survival - easy to define as a survival world that still has advancements enabled. Vanilla Creative - Any world on any version where the changes are unique to that world and not the original code (I'll allow data packs and commands)

@SuperRedstoneman

3 жыл бұрын

Words are just words but I think Sarc's just trying to convince people that mods of any form are worth playing and are part of the minecraft universe as certainly as servers with plugins or creative mode with command blocks. You should not be elitist about a superior minecraft version or modded version or server or anything because the game evolved so much and has so many different ways to shape itself even without downloading something that there is no true unique minecraft experience.

@Unknownsoldier740

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperRedstoneman I don't think they were trying to be elitist. Vanilla is mainly used to measure the impressiveness of feats. Gathering 10 stacks of diamonds in base Minecraft is a TON more impressive than if you do it with x ray and mining mods. No need to jump down his throat man.

@ThePC007

3 жыл бұрын

@@Unknownsoldier740 The issue is that it becomes impossible to judge how easy or hard a feat is to accomplish if you don't even know the rules the player had to abide by to achieve it. And if the term "vanilla survival" can now mean a million different things (including having the keep inventory feature on or having data packs that alter the gameplay), it becomes ever more difficult to explain what state your game was in when you accomplished that feat. It's muddying the water and makes it hard to talk about the game.

@Unknownsoldier740

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePC007 It really isn't as hard as you are making it out to be. You only care about relevant effects. For example, no one will really care if you used keep inventory when doing a survival build. They will be extra impressed if you did it in hardcore. Data packs that helped them make circles via providing an outline will also be easily forgiven and ignored. That is where the strive to do stuff in vanilla survival came from, the idea of performing grand feats without trivializing tools. We have just grown to allow assistants and it has caused people to get confused. The game it'self even makes it clear what vanilla Minecraft is as you can only enable keep inventory if you turn on cheats for your world. The option is literally called cheats. Not to mention data packs are just a glorified version of official modding support. This entire issue is making a mountain out of a molehill.

I think vanilla is very easily defined, press f3 and looknat the top left. If it says vanilla, its vanilla, oherwise it aint vanilla

@Erick23679

2 жыл бұрын

Genius

@dizzyizzyyt745

2 жыл бұрын

Big brain

This video is so well-made! Congrats dude, very good video! :)

Only SimplySarc can make making a resource pack sound illegal 2:57 for anyone wondering

@Unknownsoldier740

3 жыл бұрын

well, think about it. X-ray packs are just blocks with clear textures. You could even make diamonds and monster eggs more obvious. There is all sorts of stuff you can do.

@sir_slimestone3797

3 жыл бұрын

I remember making gravel bright blue so I could fly around with my elytra and find every patch with ease, I needed a lot of concrete at the time

Now that’s a lovely thumbnail Sarc! Love that you drew a melting snowman to represent the ‘vagueness’ of the term Vanilla; and there’s even no need to add any text! The colour choice and the line work is quite eye-pleasing as well.

I used to call things like: Item bound, biome bundle and custom loot tables, minecraft vanilla- with chocolate sauce (because it’s ice cream right). You didn’t change the ice cream you just added something (which is transformative), but it’s still vanilla (though biome bundle is pushing it as it is a mod, though it just changes generation so you could technically achieve an similar world in strictly un-edited minecraft by building the biomes yourself, so it kinda adds but kinda doesn’t), but I wasn’t thinking so hard about it then and just thought it was a silly, kinda fun, name to describe it.

Interesting to see somebody probe into some of the deepest questions of philosophy in general and deliver it through the scope of MC. Real good stuff

damn that ending is smooth, also I think vanilla is as close as just the official jar file. But yes, is snapshot 20w19infinity (I think that was the snapshot) for example vanilla?

@dragendghast

3 жыл бұрын

Now that's an interesting question. Developed completely by the developers, released as an official version people can play, I would say so. And anyone who thinks otherwise would have to explain how snapshots are Vanilla, but April Fools updates aren't.

@SimplySarc

3 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty interesting point too!

@hobrin4242

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragendghast well it is completely different than from the normal game lol

@dragendghast

3 жыл бұрын

@@hobrin4242 As Sarc pointed out in the video, who can define a 'normal' game? At the end of the day there is no universal answer.

@alexaipaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@hobrin4242 well, it was 20w14infinite, released a day before 20w14a

Wait its all moded. Always has been.

@THEENDERMANER

3 жыл бұрын

@Adam K i did indeed watch them and they are pretty good

@davidgumazon

3 жыл бұрын

Cave and Cliffs Update: Vanilla is Modded *!OOF!*

I like where you went with this, certainly interesting to think about where I stand on the topic.

This is a really amazing video man! I can see how much time and effort you put into your videos and I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we really love it! I just don't understand why you don't have more subs?

great timing, STEVE IN SMASH

@kevin7379

3 жыл бұрын

WOOOOOOOOOO

@truediamant777

3 жыл бұрын

Yoooo you saw that too

@liftbridgetown

3 жыл бұрын

Sarc in smash!

@seansliger1

3 жыл бұрын

HELL YEAH

Steve be smashin’ these days.

@SkimBee

3 жыл бұрын

Crash Phoenix YT he has the power to stop his smash and worlock punch without a shield

I like the distinction between "client-side vanilla" (not modded) and "server-side vanilla" (does not include plugins, datapacks, etc). Then again, there are client-side mods that are not required to join the server and only affect you (e.g. optifine, resource packs, etc). The gameplay remains "vanilla".

This is kinda what happened with Fortnite. They built a whole 'save the world' thing and their battle royale demo blew up, so it became Fortnite: Battle Royale. That was influenced wholly by the games community.

When using datapacks, it is Semi-Vanilla.

@lordkandar

3 жыл бұрын

I call it "French Vanilla"

@pennysantana247

3 жыл бұрын

Vanilla swirl

@xXDeltaXxwhotookit

3 жыл бұрын

Vanilla with sprinkles? - not adjusting the flavour, just adding a little something special

@wyrdvora

3 жыл бұрын

@@xXDeltaXxwhotookit 2000000IQ!! Perfect name. I've been wandering what to call datapacks. Thanks

@josefranciscoaraya704

3 жыл бұрын

Strawberry minecraft

For me: Modded is when the jar itself is modified, or a program is used to inject external code *into* the jar at runtime. That means resource packs and data packs aren't mods: They are loaded separately from the normal jar, and not loaded *into* it. Yes, they can overwrite some things, but it is loaded by Minecraft itself and doesn't modify the jar. But, things like Optifine, directly patch the jar itself and modify it - It's a mod. Minecraft Forge patches the jar in a similar way, but in addition to patching the jar to inject its own code, it also calls external code at runtime (mods). Fabric Loader, for example, doesn't patch the jar *itself* , it's more like a wrapper around the jar. It does, however, inject code (and call external code, "mods") into the jar at runtime, which is why I consider it a mod. Both MinecraftForge and Fabric Loader not just do that - but have a way for "mods" to change the jar at runtime (only in early stages) - manipulating Java bytecode ("core modding").

Your visuals are really good, I enjoy how consistently appropriate they are

I love the little edit at 5:17, so cool.

"Modded" is a shorter version of "Modified", meaning that the game's official executable itself has been changed In some way. In recent versions, once the game is modified an asterisk appears on the titlebar, giving us a very clear indication of where that divide occurs (unless a mod disables it). Vanilla means that the game's code has not been changed. This is it, this is the dividing line. Resourcepacks, datapacks, maps and gamerules are all enabled by the game's unaltered code, and thus count as being "vanilla" even if the play experience has been changed. Words have definitions, regardless of how many people recognize them. Some of the points being brought up here are thought-provoking, yes, but any argument that takes you away from this objective definition of "modified Minecraft" is inherently flawed.

@TheRenegade...

3 жыл бұрын

Except that datapacks are most certainly not the vanilla _experience_

@labangrankvist2993

3 жыл бұрын

Words have definitions, yes. But "Vanilla" in itself doesn't necessarily mean what your definition of it is. Vanilla as a concept is meant as the most pure, basic unaltered experience of something. Some people, like you think it has to do with the code and I would tend to agree that if you're being strict with that definion Vanilla only pertains to the code. But as someone pointed out here before me, is a super datapacked world really what Vanilla is about? I'd say no personally, but that doesn't mean we can just draw a line for a word that's inherently subjective.

@johnwest6690

3 жыл бұрын

​@@TheRenegade... Yes they are. They use features and mechanics given by the base game. If datapacks weren't vanilla, then I'd be able to modify player NBT and change the size of any entity model, but I can't because it's not in the base game. Therefore, Vanilla. Okay, you say the Vanilla "experience" which isn't quite saying "it's not vanilla", it just doesn't "feel vanilla", but my point remains, it's only changing the usual experience if the datapack allows it. Otherwise, it's totally vanilla.

@dandymcgee

3 жыл бұрын

The definition of a computer program tells us that it contains two main categories of things: code and data. Changing the data alters the program just as much as changing the code. Modifying either creates a non-vanilla experience (either semi-vanilla or modded, depending on the extent of the alterations). I could see an argument for extremely commonplace and inconsequential modifications being allowed without transitioning from vanilla to semi-vanilla, such as changing your skin (which someone mentioned in another comment).

People with version 1.0 worlds: I’m the most Vanilla.

@thelastnoise9210

2 жыл бұрын

@Biggles Worken Okay dude chill you didn't have to murder me. XD

There was this app on iOS which let you make little tunes with minecraft sounds, BUT if you ran the app then switched to MCPE, A bot would join your world and you could basically do sorta like WorldEdit commands via the bot player for a 30 second time window and once the time ran out you had to repeat the process. You could fill areas with blocks, make the bot repeat patterns you built and drain areas, but that's about it. This was before MCPE had commands if I remember correctly. I also had a seperate app that let you put add-ons into MCPE. Both of these apps had these functions completely for free.

i found your philosophy course very informative. thank you!

I guess i've always thought that 'Vanilla' encompassed any kind of of community addition or alteration to the game that is made with the intent to be as compatible with the basic survival experience as possible. I consider resource/data packs like VanillaTweaks to be friendly to the vanilla experience (with maybe the exception of the armor stand mod), while say, retexturing a diamond sword into a lightsaber, is not vanilla-friendly.

I consider Optifine "vanilla with chocolate syrup"

I've been thinking about this recently as well. Recently, resourcepacks have started being used to replace the shader files used to make screen effects like glowing or transparency, since these are stored on the assets. The thing is, shaders are coded in glsl and compiled on runtime... And that's like proper code... But still technically vanilla? The thing is that working with it, playing with the limitations that you have from working within the game, still feels much different than modding. I made a NES emulator using this last month and it was quite the challenge, made me think outside the box and try weird stuff I wouldn't have done coding in java, c, or whatever

Bruh these videos are so well made. I love this stuff.

3:55 "playing and accomplishing things in vanilla is the highest form of achievement you can get in the game" *laughs in ftb interactions, sevtech, exoria, e.t.c. which take whole days to beat*

@bluesillybeard

3 жыл бұрын

*laughs in RLCraft as well*

This is a really cool idea. When it comes down to it, vanilla simply means playing the game without any rules, parameters, or features that weren’t implemented by the team of coders who create updates for the game that are officially recognized by Microsoft/Mojang. Socially though, this video really dives deep into. Good video man.

9:26 And on that note, *pistons.* They were a mod that Notch went "hey, that's pretty cool!" and just straight put in the game.

ima just point out how awesome that perspective shot is of the empty potion bottle i know how u did it and its rlly impressive for it to be done so well

8:52 LOOK GUYS PISS FOUNTAIN !!1!1

@slimeinc.3822

3 жыл бұрын

no no no, vomit fountain

@What-Kind-Of-Idiot-Is-This

3 жыл бұрын

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He Talks again Yay

I always find the arguments about bugs to be quite interesting. TNT duping seems to be widely embraced as "feature, not bug", but that's mostly because of the fun & utility it adds. Building stone blast chambers, tree farms and world eaters are challenges to be conquered. But from there it gets more ambiguous: Are chunk loaders vanilla? Is breaking nether-roof bedrock a cheat? Is carpet/rail duping an exploit or a game mechanic?

Reminds me a little of the discussions people have in regards to Vanilla Doom and what constitutes such. A good amount of sourceports give support for extra functionality outside of Doom's original source code with things like EDF in the Eternity Engine and Zscript/decorate in GZDoom while also changing more core aspects of the engine which is obviously less vanilla. However there are sourceports out there that are more cosmetic in their inclusions, most notably DoomRetro which maintains good vanilla accuracy while also adding features inspired by the build engine, blood effects and decals, explosion screen shake, etc

Pffffft, vanilla as the highest level of achievement? That's debatable

All we know is, that "Vanilla" tastes good :)

When he was hitting the note block @ 3:04 it sounded like the beat to thriller

Ur channel is extremely entertaining.... I can’t take my eyes off screen

"Wait, it's not vanilla?" *"NEVER HAS BEEN"*

Hey, VSauce! Michael here

Great point of view. I've never thought of vanilla MC under this perspective.

I'm just amazed because this guy can illustrate his script and wording using just "Vanilla" Minecraft itself. Props to you Sarc!!!!

you should be on hermitcraft, you could be a definite candidate

@vertsang5424

3 жыл бұрын

why? he doesn't do let's play as much i am aware.

Notch? who’s Notch? wasn’t Minecraft created by Hatsune Miku?

@azetac_

3 жыл бұрын

No, you're thinking of Among Us. Obama made Minecraft.

@moldyshoess

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Moses created among us

@azetac_

3 жыл бұрын

TacoPerSec Wait so what did Hatsune Miku make

@moldyshoess

3 жыл бұрын

@@azetac_ Falls guys, i think

This is like that dilema with the boat. There is a boat that with time loses some of its parts due to war, usage and so on, but every part that gets lost is replaced afterwards. Eventually every posible atom that belonged to the boat was replaced. Is it still the original boat or not anymore? At what point did the "vanilla" boat stoped being "vanilla"?

1:47 I like what you did with the perception thing. I assume the glass is being held by an invisible armor stand that's close up to the "camera" and looks as if its far away, and big. Unless it is a big glass and I'm just overthinking this

"is the vanilla right now, just an impostor?" People who play minecraft among us with command blocks: *confused screaming*

Does Minecraft Steve in Smash actually exist?

@AlwaysAWreck

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it just got revealed today

@fion3il258

3 жыл бұрын

It's legit

@kaexewires7531

3 жыл бұрын

@@fion3il258 bro... oh my god, it's actually happening...

@foddlestocks1045

3 жыл бұрын

YES

The philosophy of Vanilla Minecraft wasn’t something I expected to watch today but I’m pleasantly surprised. Keep it up!

I love your content. You are like the infographics show of minecraft.

this guy turns Minecraft into a philosophical subject

Modded literally means modified in any way

@SkimBee

3 жыл бұрын

Every world is modified under multiple definitions You destroy a block You place a block If you load new generation different from the last update A mob edits a part of the world A portal is lit Contents of a chest are taken (not really on par with the others but still counts) Lightning strikes a village and burns a house A mob touches a pressure plate in the dessert temple

this video is so simple, yet so high quality

5:36 The idea of herobrine being the candy man of Minecraft is something I never really thought on till now

Next video: Does Minecraft exist

@dareokoski8158

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert: No it doesn't

“vanilla is the highest form of achievement” bruh have you ever even seen rl craft

We should add a New category: tweked. Vanilla is directly by mojang. Tweked os datapacks and things like that and moded is with mods

My friend has been working on a gigantic megabase on our survival Realm for a few years now. He drained a huge area in the ocean and dug to bedrock all by hand, with some help from friends of course. It's super satisfying to complete a big task with the limitations of being in Survival. Had we used a bot, for example, to dig out an area it would've been just like using Creative mode, and all that time and effort put in wouldn't feel as valuable.

Theoretically, if vanilla minecraft doesn't exist, then modded minecraft is the only thing that you can play. This means that there must be a maximum vanilla-ness to modded minecraft, so there almost has to be vanilla minecraft

@probablyryan8151

3 жыл бұрын

Did you just make the ontological argument?

Just want to say my opinion before this video, vanilla literally means you have only download what Mojang has released, and you're playing with whatever datapacks and resource packs you want. In my opinion, vanilla is any client-side mod that is compatible with a vanilla server, or a server-side mod that is compatible with a vanilla client. This means things like replay mod, optifine, dynamic sound filters, or minihud. This doesn't mean all datapacks, resource packs, and vanilla compatible mods are fair though, it just means they're vanilla imo

I've been on a simply sarc marathon waiting for new uploads.

Thank you for making this. As a Philosophy and Religion major, I love how you were able to turn what we thought we knew on our heads and in the process help us better understand the game and our relationship to it. Minecraf has become an integral part of life for many people and this kind of conversation to stay a healthy and joyful community and to be able to enjoy our favorite game for years to come. Thank you!

no

@clegomanrun1294

3 жыл бұрын

maybe

@kingoreo7050

3 жыл бұрын

Double negative or just no

That "hopefully" frame got a chuckle out of me haha

Creative mode is the closest to true vanilla you can get. Survival mode is like a mod that got added to the game

It's like I was talking to this young kid at work about minecraft. I told him I knew everything about minecraft, so he tested my knowledge about the game. All of the stuff he tested me with was stuff that wasn't even in the game, but it was all mods that he added to his minecraft game. Making his vision of what "base" Minecraft different

Damn, you have overanalyzed this one beyond what I thought of as possible

I love how 1 second in, he immediately addresses the title of the video, we should know the title of the video, but many KZreadrs act like we don't, that this straighttothepointness caught me off guard.

simplysarc overthinking minecraft again and i am watching it again.

Nice you just enderpearled me into and ad this is the only time ads are okay

I probably need to think this through a bit more, but here's a fun thought. The question of vanilla could be approached from the perspective of communication and accessibility. For example, one important distinction between our perception of a plugin versus a mod is that I can join and be apart of a server with a plugin the same as any vanilla server. On the other hand, I need to take extra steps like downloading software before I can participate in a modded one. I guess my point is that the power of communication and exposure defuse the non-vanilla perception for things such as plugins and data packs, whereas even slight bottlenecks that slow down accessibility can decrease exposure and communication between the majority Minecraft community and any given minority Minecraft community. Not unlike dealing with real-world cultural and ethnic divisions, our most powerful tool is communication. This is why it really pleases me when I hear that Minecraft is providing more official support for any part of the community. It increases accessibility and increases the overall acceptance of any given subdivisions of this community into the larger whole... I guess I kind of trailed off from the point of the video. XD

I thought it was going to talk about how updates feel modded and the nature of minecraft itself. But no it was a classification thing, which is simple to me. I don't understand how it's hard.

I thought this would be kinda dumb but it you really pleasently surprised me

I have a copy of a beta version of minecraft in my old thinkpad laptop. It was so early mushroom automatically grow if you put a shade over a grass