I was thinking those groups were slacking then he said at 100 yards lol 😂

Over the years I’ve met a ton of people that have little to no concept of what you are explaining in this video. No idea of spine effects, arrow length, point weight etc. Gotta keep spreading the knowledge!👍👍

Thanks for demonstrating what 25 gn will do. Something to think about.

Always great Information.

Most people can't shoot that good to tell the difference! Im glad that you are showing them 🎯

@Niko_410

11 күн бұрын

I’ve got to overwhelmingly disagree that most bowhunters/archers wouldn’t notice 12 inch point impact difference in shooting. That’s petrifying.

@patrickbink4617

11 күн бұрын

I certainly cannot!

@robertdavis1102

11 күн бұрын

@Niko_410 if you can hold that good at 100yds to see the difference, then good for you 👍. 100 yards doesn't mean anything in a hunting situation and therefore nobody will see it!

What is the effective difference in changing the weight of the insert vs the tip? It seems either would have the same effect. Is there a reason to choose the insert (which can't easily be changed) over a tip change (trivial change)? I just got a dozen Sonic-KE from Nock-On and they came with 75/50 inserts, so trying to decide which way to go.

@jonathan_guerrero

8 күн бұрын

Actually, the heavier the tip of the arrow the higher your foc will be. A higher foc will make the arrow nose dive faster. This was explained by Easton so I'm not making it up. I played around with some numbers and a 100 grain tip with a 50 grain insert gave me an foc of 14.1 A 125 grain tip with a 25 grain insert gave me 14.5 foc. Not a huge difference but to answer your question, it's not exactly the same thing.

Hi. What spine of your arrows and power of your compound bow?

Hello. Great video. Can you tell me what you are shooting grains per pd? Arrow total weight and bow poundage? Just curious what guys like yourself are shooting in general in regards to grains per pound. My current is 6.8 grains per pd ( 65pds weight with 444 grain FMJ with 100 grain) Thanks!

Did you tune for the heavier arrow or shoot the same pins for both arrows to see the drop.

I got the sonic ke. 27” long. 75 grain insert and 125 point weight. For a total weight of 474. Thinking of taking out the inserts and breaking off the 25 grain tip and keeping the 125 point weight because my broadheads that I’m gonna use this year are 125.

Heck, I cant see a dot at 100!!!

@thenameiwantedwastaken

9 күн бұрын

Same. Makes me wonder if there’s guys are using different “yards” to me

@scottference612

5 күн бұрын

Shot at 500 yards with open sights in the Corps. At that range you can simply shoot for the center of the target, it may be what he is doing here. Or he just has good eyes...

I’d like to see you do a group comparison between the 4fletch 2.0 and 3 fletch 2.6 on Sonics with the g5 mechanical

I understand what you're saying. What I want to know is are those special pants with a side pocket for arrows?

@RFTwo

8 күн бұрын

I think that’s the Sitka Gear Range Pant.

You should try podium archers 30 grain titanium inserts

The problem is I own one bow and my sight is set up for my hunting arrow. So do I change sight tapes to match a TAC arrow or build the arrow to match my hunting set up? Or buy a target bow 😅

@scottsiebert6653

5 күн бұрын

Prep for what you will do 90% of the time and deal with the other 10%

I did 50g insert, 100g field, sonic KE...at 68lbs it was great out to 110+...about 406g total arrow weight. I have no idea how to hunt, but I can kill some foam.

How much does the arrow weight and FOC help in the wind at those longer distances? Is it better to use aluminum vs brass for TAC?

@robertmyers7542

11 күн бұрын

This is purely a “professional” trying to make a guy who uses math look bad or debunk him. Including the word argument in the title has Jack shot to do with MATH! Plus when you get paid by the industry and the people that spend time to teach reality. At a 100 yards no shit there will be more drop as somewhere along the line momentum gets worse. But if I had to lay a 100 out right now based on what I just watched, both these arrows total mass is under 500 and first one is a normal shop tune built for speed with a 100 point, then add the said number of grains to shot two. Both not worth a damn to kill anything at a 100 without the perfect hit……😆😂🙄🤪. Pretty good odds you will never get an answer! Let’s also ask what poundage that bow is at also…..it’s just a sucker punch, that’s all!!!!

@kylemacdonell1450

11 күн бұрын

@@robertmyers7542 I agree with you 100% And don't like that dud is pushing what he is being paid to SELL.. Even if its not directly promoted here. He did though mention for "these summer time events" I myself mostly hunt moose with archery gear and will NEVER shoot an expandable and light weight arrows at them, have had too much success with 550 Plus and fixed blade broadheads

@jons7e

11 күн бұрын

@@robertmyers7542 Did you even watch the video? He didn't suggest this is for hunting, though you could hunt with those weights. He also said the total arrow weights, and the point itself made the second arrow 25grain heavier. So at 100 yards it added 12" of additional drop with just those 25 grains, which is relevant for people at TAC events trying to add range. You just wrote some long rant and even Troy made sub 500 grain arrows for TAC events.

@davidholliday2703

8 күн бұрын

The context here was for TAC, right?

@kylemacdonell1450

7 күн бұрын

@jons7e so he saying it's a good idea to sight in before going ? I mean if you change arrows and shoot at 100 yards obviously impact will be affected

It's clear. I have arrows of 31 and 29 inches, but for some reason 29 arrows of the same weight fly higher than 31. That is, you can take 29 and add weight and they will fly the same as 31. This is no longer clear.

On average, each 20 grain more slows down the arrow by 7fps.

Idk you should definitely ask Nenad hell have the answers

Nice tree in background

That's a great method for shooting further on Tac Target, but when it comes to hunting, you lose all your penetration and your kinetic energy.

@Sean-pw3yr

11 күн бұрын

How much kinetic energy do you need and how many 100 yard shots on animals are you taking?

@j.s.3414

10 күн бұрын

That exactly why he's talking about TAC.....

The "Arrow weight argument" has nothing to do with target archery. If anyone was only shooting foam, you'd always go the biggest lightest arrow..... it's a no brainer

@maxbehr3095

7 күн бұрын

(Skinniest), lightest arrow. lol wind drift matters more than line cutting at tac events, I promise.

@cameronprior6190

7 күн бұрын

@@maxbehr3095 true did not consider that...