That holding weight seems a bit low for that Hoyt… might need to check that again.

@crabwalk1891

12 күн бұрын

Yeah! No math wiz here but 4lb of 80lb draw weight is 5%!!! IE 95 % let-off😂

@extremeoutfitters

12 күн бұрын

Checked it multiple times 🤷🏻‍♂️

@mattgipe84

12 күн бұрын

@@extremeoutfitters seems crazy low for 80 at 85. Love that y’all are doing comparison reviews of different bows at higher poundage’s.

@extremeoutfitters

12 күн бұрын

Haha We thought so as well! Really appreciate you checking us out!

@user-oz1zn7ey2m

9 күн бұрын

You had the Dummy checking that one.

The alpha X at 80 lbs is on easy mode. Love the draw cycle on the Hoyt. Mathews draw cycle at 70 felt worse than the Hoyt at 80. Bought the alpha x so obviously my bias leaned that way.

I just spent about 2 hours at the local bow shop deciding between these two!!! Hoyte drew and shot like a dream The mathews was lighter, faster, and quieter. In my opinion the mathews makes a better hunting bow for my uses. I went with the mathews...that being said I still dream about that hoyte!

🙏 🙏 keep it up guys. Perfect arrow weights to give us a good idea. We need these 80 lbs videos guys. Perfect!

I shoot a 80# 80% lift 29.5 I love the back wall for me it keeps me honest on the pull through great video though all good info

4 pounds holding weight for the hoyt that makes no sense that's like a 95% holding weight

Holding weight on hoyt is like 95% with those numbers

Would love to see those 2 bows at 28” DL like you guys normally do.

I hate the Lift, ive shot it multiple times. I don't want my cams behaving like they "want to go", I want them to chill while I'm holding. Very uncomfortable bow in my opinion. After you shoot, the bow feels like it lunges forward in your hands. I could care less about a few FPS differences, those are just symantics bowhunters talk about because were bored. In the grand scheme of things, its means nothing, deer and elk will still die.

Holding weight on the Hoyt 4.1…… that doesn’t sound right

@MatroniFitness

12 күн бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. Isn’t it just a function of math? 80*.15 for the holding weight

I have the lift 33 and I shot the hoyt and I have to say the lift checked all the boxes and was super comfy in the hand. And it helps that it's faster to which we all want more speed if possible.

@alextalarico959

12 күн бұрын

I got the lift 33 over the hoyt due to the weight, but there's no denying what you're saying - The hoyt has the best draw cycle I've ever felt.

After lusting after top end Hoyts for the last 10 years (but owning a couple lower cost PSEs), I was ready to buy an Alpha X this year when they came out. Then I shot it and the Matthews Lift 33 and now I own the Matthews. The Alpha X sits really hard against my thumb knuckle to the point of being uncomfortable. 9 shots and it was actually sore. The Matthews is lighter and fits my hand. Of course that meant I had to get new cases, but so be it.

Great video guys, like others I'm not understanding the holding weight versus let off. The Mathews does seem to want to creep out of the holding weight. 80lbs with 85% letoff.. if the hoyt is the same how can the hoyt be only 4.1 holding weight? Just trying to understand, I would be very interested in trying the hoyt if the holding weight is that low with that speed. Thanks for the content!

Those numbers on the heavy arrow seems slow at 30 inch draw. I’m shooting a PSE levitate with the S2 cams at 27.5 at 75# and at 500 grains, I’m getting 280fps.

Heyyyyyyy... It's the little guy!!!!! Wheres his handbag?????

Ive had alot of bows. But must say loved the hoyts wish never sold

I never trust the holding weight of those hand scales... they often read the holding weight lower than reality. The Hoyt was low at 4#, that's like a 95% let off! It was probably more like 12# in reality. When it comes to Mathews, it really matters what weight mods you use when it comes to the feel and valley.

Call firenock and get titanium bolts and screws and drop the weight on the Hoyt. But in my opinion I rather have a little more forgiveness as a hunter in my set up so I would choose the Hoyt between these two

I shot the prime Ronan phase 4 33 lift 29 and Alfa x 30 I left with the phase 4 kinda wish I went with the prime or the lift Alfa x was horrible in my opinion felt like a toy..

Did I hear that right? 95% LE for the hoyt?

@mattgipe84

12 күн бұрын

It was 85% for both bows

@rescueridgeadventures7776

12 күн бұрын

@mattgipe84 claimed, but mathematically he was only holding 5%. Something definitely off with the numbers. If that was so, a true 85%LE on the hoyt would smoke the mathews

Test them at 50lbs

Vtm is faster than the alpha x . I said what I said

PSE next question

Nothing beats the draw cycle of the hoyt. Doesn't matter what poundage it feels 20lbs lighter.

@nockit86

8 күн бұрын

PSE EC2 cams beat hoyt draw cycle all day.

Did you really just compare two different bows at two different draw lengths? Thank goodness mfjj is doing reviews. Just to show the difference draw length makes. My alpha 33 at 82.5lbs and 31.5 draw I'm pushing a 460 333fps

@extremeoutfitters

12 күн бұрын

2 different draw lengths? We shot them both at 30”

@mattgipe84

12 күн бұрын

No, they didn’t. They did both at 30” with 2 different arrow weights for each

@heberkapcsos7730

11 күн бұрын

😅 also mfjj is either paid by Mathews or some kind of kick back, he rags on the hoyts hard for the same stuff he looks the other way on Mathews for. Just what I’ve seen on his reviews. They’re both great bows imo.