Plus, they didn't have Golden Retrievers back then.

@jozitro4554

Ай бұрын

😂 very true

@blondecomet3915

Ай бұрын

😅

@BallBatteryReligion

Ай бұрын

If there were Golden Retrievers in the old testament, dogs would've made it onto the ten commandments easily.

@onlyhistory8140

Ай бұрын

They also didn't have pitbulls back then

@daytwaqua

Ай бұрын

@@BallBatteryReligion God didn't want the competition for adoration back then, so he held off on Golden Retrievers as long as possible lol.

Scavenging feral dog packs in an urban environment still exist today.. also read about them causing problems in 18th/19th century British colonial towns and even in WW2 where they would feed off corpses and also hang around combat field hospitals where masses of medically removed body parts were piled up outside the medical tents.

Seems like it was just a different time. Like how if you have grandparents who grew up on a farm their view on dogs is more about their utility than as a companion. Or at least some dogs - I know one of my great uncles who was a farmer would talk about how dogs aren't inside animals, except for whatever the 'family dog' was. They had similar views on cats, and I think they even viewed cats as pests to some degree when the wild cats would breed and there were too many cats running around to be helpful vs what they provided by eating other pests. Different times, different cultural norms. I'm sure lots of people in the Bible had doggies they loved.

Feral Dogs still behave the same way.

Dogs are precious and dependant on good human behaviour. How you treat your dog can be the difference between servant/slave/enemy

I mean in ancient semitic religious practices, ritual purity is a very big deal. Dogs are generally not clean animals unless they are pampered like modern pets, which only the wealthy could afford to have done by someone else.

Caleb has enter the chat

If my dogs aren't waiting for me in heaven, I'm not interested in going.

@Johnny3Batony

Ай бұрын

Why do you take Jewish Iron Age texts seriously?

@Sxcheschka

Ай бұрын

​@@Johnny3BatonyThat's a bit of punching down on belief don't you think?

@fightevil.readbooks.5076

Ай бұрын

@@Johnny3Batony I don't. And religion will never get me if my dogs aren't waiting for me. In my opinion, that's the only good reason to have an afterlife. Playing with dogs in heaven is the only thing I want to do forever.

@fightevil.readbooks.5076

Ай бұрын

@@Sxcheschka In the realm of ideas, there are proven truths and everything else. Exposing untruths is not "punching down".

@Sxcheschka

Ай бұрын

@@fightevil.readbooks.5076 It is when someone says, Why do you take Jewish Iron Age texts seriously, that statement is rude as there are people who take those texts with authoritative works extremely seriously.

Sounds more like a general condemnation of homelessness

@CrisSelene

Ай бұрын

What are you talking about? 1. They are talking about dogs. 2. Never apply 21st century ideas to 2000 years old texts. They didn't view society as us ergo they didn't view homelessness as we do.

In eastern orthodox we believe that all animals have a soul ❤️❤️

@juliesullivan9473

Ай бұрын

That's interesting!! I grew up Christian… as an Orthodox Jew, how does “animals having a soul” reconcile with “man being made in God's image” and “set apart”? I love the idea that they have a soul 🥰

@Madokaexe

Ай бұрын

@@juliesullivan9473 hello, in eastern orthodox we believe in the distinction of soul, there's the material, energetical and our essence. Material: our physical body who is bound by the laws of nature. Energy: our emotions and motion, animals have material and energetical souls. Essence: the human essence is what gives us rationality and a closer relationship to God, God has a divine essence and we have a human essence made in his image, humans have material, energy and essence. In the end we believe that all animals will be saved through mankind's redemption!

I saw this documentary that said, “all dogs go to heaven,” and that’s all I need to know!

@TheShadowOfMars

Ай бұрын

All dogs go to heaven... except the class traitors of the Paw Patrol!

@D1900fas

Ай бұрын

Disneyland movie

I imagine, with there not being professional groomers in the ancient world, dogs were kept for their work, but less often as pets, since they tended to be too dirty to enter the house. Ritual purity was pretty significant for ancient near eastern religions, and dirty animals was one way it could be lost. Even today, there's a pretty clear preference among Muslims for cats rather than dogs, in part because they clean themselves.

We still have a feral dog problem in Israel 😐

@pastelpurpledeathbed

4 күн бұрын

I bet you do.

Is the tshirt you're wearing available as merch?

No garbage, dead bodies and yukky stuff strewn around, no feral dogs in village.

In polytheism, we acknowledge the essential nature dogs serve towards the human species. And nearly every Olympian (Dii Consentes) has a dog important to are least ONE of Their incarnations.

Dog people as portrayed in many ancient art?

How did you change the color of your hair 🤔 is it just lighting

Compare the mention of dogs to soldiers. It's not about hate. It's about function. Context. Kinda like you noted really. Never mind... nothing to see here.

Nothing has changed in the holy land.

Cats however were loved, i mean i heard they were liked cause they were clean and they were the only animal allowed in temples (at least theat's how it is in ortodox Christianity)🤔

Where have you been!?

The father, son, Holy Ghost triad is just a reference to Cerberus for those with ears to hear. Lol Jesus was a cynic. The Bible is satire. 🐶 🐶 🐶

They are portrayed as getting scraps. Nothing more nothing less

The Bible is an inanimate object. It can’t hate anything

@lardgedarkrooster6371

Ай бұрын

*The main cultures of Biblical times that are discussed in the Bible, which mainly includes Hebrew, Israelite, and Jewish culture in the OT (or Tanakh) and Jewish and Early Christian culture in the NT. Happy now?

@us3rG

Ай бұрын

​@@lardgedarkrooster6371they didn't hate dogs that were raised disciplined by humans, wild dogs are dangerous like wolves

Yeah but what about cats?

Dominican monks are called the dogs of God...🙏🏻🙏🏾🙏🏽

So more descriptive than prescriptive

'God spelled backward is "Dog," and we all want dogs, don't we?'

So, do all dogs go to heaven? Yes or no?!

@notuxnobux

4 күн бұрын

You only go to heaven or hell if you have the knowledge of good and evil, and only humans do after adam and eve ate the fruit

When I read the Bible again and again, I see that God loves His animals. He hear theirs stomachs grumbling and provides them food(Job38:39-41) Not even a bird dies/falls from the sky unless it is God's will(Matt10:29). God does not hate dogs but has given them to us. We here in the West have perverted the relationship we have with the dog. Treating them with more care and concern than with people

Ancient *Palestine 😊 Not sure if you’re familiar with the history

Did you know that dogs and pigs actually share a surprising number of biological similarities? Both are mammals, with similar digestive systems, body structures, and reproductive organs. They even have comparable cognitive abilities and social behaviors. However, despite these parallels, Islamic dietary laws classify pigs as haram, meaning forbidden for consumption. This prohibition is rooted in Islamic teachings, which consider the consumption of pork impure and unhealthy for spiritual and physical well-being. While the reasons for this prohibition may vary, it's important to respect and understand the religious beliefs and practices of others, even if they differ from our own cultural or personal beliefs. So, while dogs and pigs may share certain biological traits, their classification as haram in Islamic culture is based on religious principles rather than purely biological considerations.

@pauljonze

Ай бұрын

So total nonsense and completely meaningless

@SashaStrayy

Ай бұрын

@@pauljonze Ah, I see you're an expert in Islamic dietary laws and comparative biology. How fascinating! Perhaps you could enlighten us with your extensive knowledge and provide some credible sources to back up your claims. Until then, I'll stick with the guidance of religious scholars and scientific consensus. Thanks for your input!

They just hated mutts

any book that cheers the bashing of babies' heads off rocks doesn't have any right to look down it's nose at a dog...tame or feral.

@BongBing11

12 күн бұрын

That was written by a seething Israelite and isn't sold as a good thing anywhere else :P

@migamaos3953

3 күн бұрын

You’re stupid lol

People back then weren’t playing God and creating new breeds for shallow reasons.

The bible is an old book. This dogy problem can't be a hard mistery. Realy we needed all this thousands of years and a "recent study" to descover "the dog problem in the bible"? Laughable!

No, of course it doesn't. It's a book.

No the Bible doesn’t hate dogs. But that’s because the bible is an object that doesn’t posses any subjective consciousness. Therefore “the bible” is unable to hate or love or anything related to subjective experience. Same holds for secular law texts btw

This was back when dogs were dogs and not a toy ....those who were disciplined worked with humans, the wild ones were dangerous like wolves.

Every animal that lives here will live in heaven, and we will live with them in peace as we did here for 100,000 years before the evil people came as it says Isaiah chapter 65

The fact that the aim of holy books is to try prove an existence of a super being I’ll take absolutely everything it states say with a pound of salt!

@sskpsp

4 күн бұрын

That's not what the goal of holy books is

God is happy and proud in all He made, even Leviathan. Using one in a metaphor or analogy doesn't mean it is so always or even a complete comparison. Dogs can be a blessing like all of God's creatures. Except mosquitoes. Don't know what He was thinking there. Jesus lives ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

@Rynewulf

Ай бұрын

I dont know man, he very personally levelled multiple cities and nations out out disgust or spite in the Old Testament and a good chunk of the New is "dont sin or he'll do it again!" It always felt like a deliberately conditional love for humanity, even when they only transgress in the specific ways he made them too or he 'hardens their hearts' and forces them too then blames them anyway

@JadDragon

Ай бұрын

@@Rynewulf if your parents never punished you when you did wrong they didn't love you.

@Rynewulf

Ай бұрын

@@JadDragon parents arent all knowing, all powerful creators who explicitly designed your behaviours before birth. Thats like a carpenter making a door then hacking it apart in a rage because the door opens and closes

@JadDragon

Ай бұрын

@@Rynewulf you're mad you're actually responsible for your own choices and actions? No one makes you behave any way but you.

@r0ky_M

Ай бұрын

@@JadDragon Best you go read Genesis 6:6 where g0d says he regretted making mankind..

nah Dogs too cute

Nope, but the Koran does