As always, enjoyed your video! Keep making, but I'm with you on shelving for a later time (other video), I always have a choice of which project I'm interested in doing. You certainly have talent and intelligence.

A great tutorial. I would love to see more of these experiments on other batteries and have a conclusion overall. Very well presented and carried out. Keep them coming my friend.

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

oh don't worry i have plenty of batteries to test and experiment on. i was going to work up to puting epsom salt into my big deep cycle battery but it looks like epsom salt won't restore its capacity. so instead i'm going to make a high powered desulfator for that. will prolly do it the easy way with a spinning magnet and engine magneto making like 800v sparks.

@MYNICEEV

10 жыл бұрын

Great can't wait to see results. Very well done.

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

kay ger yeah but adding epsom salt only costs pennies. i don't think they would sell you a battery for a few cents.

@CCPANHEAD

4 жыл бұрын

@@RinoaL Would you share how you built the high powered desulfator? Also any other plans to create these tools to make life better. I have seen someone starting with D. water and Baking Soda shaking the battery a bit and pouring it out. The B.Soda cleans the inside of the battery the color of water mix you pour out is proof of that. Then they add the Epsom Salts and D. Water and trickle-charge it at least a day. Thank you for helping to solve this expensive problem!

Thanks for sharing man. I really appreciate this useful information and you sharing it so freely. Keep up the good work and I hope all your plans come to fruition, peace.

yes enjoyed your presentation, very much. I have observed in the past when a battery has a volt reading of 10.55v the cell has shorted; when it reads .55v its an open cell will not hold a charge. when it has a reading of 13v its a cell with no water its permanently damaged the moment water is poured into that cell, it will draw more amps from your generator burning out the diodes to car generator and will read at 28a 50a steady, heating up the generator or appliance you are using, when if normal amps should drop to .88amps not over heating your appliances .

Thank you for clearing that Epsom salts thing up for us.

YOU totally have the voice for a kids science show

@padmegedler2027

3 жыл бұрын

I've been researching into battery reconditioning and found a fantastic website at Magic Mender Wizard (google it if you are interested)

This is the best video about battery revivlal scams. Thanks you man.

Great video. Liked the music too - perfect for some tinkering...

Runescape soundtrack as your background music of choice? Yes please and thank you oh so much.

At last someone attacking the hypothesis with actual results and a step-by-step procedure. I recently took a 12V car battery that was 6 years old and pretty much "stuffed" from a Nissan Leaf and found the following after adding 6ml of PURE sulfuric acid to each cell. Stated capacity (new) is 45 amp-hours. Initial capacity before adding the H2SO4 was 0.4 amp-hours. Then: First Run Leaf Battery 2/8/20 (August 2nd) 4.1 Amps discharge current 163 minutes to get to 12.0 volts 11.14 Amp Hours 2nd Run Leaf Battery - 6/8/20 4.1 Amps discharge current 116 minutes to get to 12.0 volts 7.93 Amp Hours So the capacity dropped back somewhat. Added another 6ml of H2SO4 3rd Run Leaf Battery - 12/8/20 4.2 Amps 181 minutes 12.67 Amp Hours So we'll see if the acid is eating away the plates over the next few weeks. But so far the acid seems to help a lot.

I appreciate your scientific experimental approach to this. Thanks. KZread could use more people who know what the scientific method of Investigation is

Nice design, works well and very easy to set up.

Fantastic battery recondition idea!!! I love this for every one

If you still have that battery kicking around try discharging it by dead shorting it for VERY short times, like tapping two chunks of metal together that are attached to the battery with booster cables. A while ago there was a battery conditioner for RC cars that did that in cycles to bring back the life of old Nicd and Nimh. The theory is that the sudden spikes in current draw broke up the sulfur crystals.

Outstanding video, I would like to know more about the hotplate/magnet you used to mix the solution.

Thanks for some really helpful work. Everything is going to lithium but lead acid is still the cheapest and most commonly used. I'm on a boat with a solar system and some new batteries and a few old ones and this will help me rejuvenate the older batteries and integrate them into the new system and also manage my charging discharging Cycles! Thanks so much again! Getting my Epsom salts now and preparing to read all of the comments. And interestingly I have a starting battery which stores a lot of charge potential almost equal to my deep Cycles so I'm tempted to purchase more large starting batteries rather than expensive deep cycle.

One of the best videos on the matter, thanks

Great at explaining,you have a gift.

You should charge your batteries to 14.4V if you are cycling them, or to 13.8V if you are using them as a standby (trickle charge) Really nice video(s) by the way!!!

Very cool video and good explanations. I am off to review your other vids to see if you have a de-sulfator experiment.

Could you give a general breakdown of thinks you've learned about batteries such as charging methods, cycling and desulfating?

Last time I took Epsom Salts, I was in the bathroom, Discharging all day. I run smoother Now, definitely got the lumps out.

@marlonseijas7948

4 жыл бұрын

Nice video content! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you considered - Lammywalness Trendy Trade Guide (erm, check it on google should be there)? It is a smashing exclusive guide for learning how to recondition batteries at home without the headache. Ive heard some incredible things about it and my GF after many years got astronomical results with it.

Wind Waker - Pirate ship!!! 😁 Then my mind exploded when I finally realized the NES cart was Gyromite!!! I had completely forgotten about that robot accessory.

Excellent video and information...

That is really awesome! I have a large number of old batteries being used in an off grid solar array I am trying to revive but I'm not sure the correct way to go about it. Is there any amp-hour comparisons for an aluminum sulfate conversion? I'm considering using sodium hydroxide to neutralize the sulfuric acid then wash and convert the cells.

wonderful choice of music!

good job. I appreciate your video and the time you took to share that with us. You're very knowledgeable. could you make a video similar to this using "ALUM"? I am curious to see what the out come would be.

very good information, thanks, great video

Dude! You have your own stirring magnet!

@TheAnantaSesa

7 жыл бұрын

But do they sell stirring magnets?

@aleenahbrown6163

6 жыл бұрын

right!!

@georgewalters7748

5 жыл бұрын

If you want the best method for reconditioning your batteries then go here now: HootBattery.xyz You can also start your very own battery business as well and make big bucks!

I had heard of using Epsom salts to revive a lead acid battery probably about 30 years ago. I had a motorcycle battery that went out in about a year, I emptied it out, flushed it with an Epsom salt solution, rinsed again, then refilled it with fresh acid. The battery recovered and lasted another year, so I was pretty happy. I tried the same solution 2 or 3 times after that on other batteries, it never worked again, so I pretty much gave up on the idea.

@dixoncider7256

8 жыл бұрын

G56AG another guy on youtube said that only about 1 out of 10 are repairable with epsom salts.

Love it, a bench that looks like mine :)

Does this work for long term use or does the addition of epsom salts lead to rapid corrosion of the plates?

Greetings from Indy...today I did the same thing...rejuvenated a car battery with alum. I've had good success with it on another battery curious have you done any comparisons with alum verses Epsom salt?

The best way to maintain a battery that is not in use, ( Caravan or Vehicle not used) is to use a " Cyclic Charger " . This type of charger monitors the battery voltage, automatically cycles the charging, between two preset voltages. the charge current is kept low to prevent electrolyte evaporation. Thus emulating the daily use of the vehicle. The low charge current keeps the sediment discharge low and prevents sulfation. The electronics detects the battery polarity protecting the charger. The LED indicators show the charge state of the battery too !

Is it possible to refresh a battery using fresh acid after draining and doing a baking soda clean/flush? Thank You!

So, how much Epsom salt would you advice adding to a battery? It would be nice to know quantities for really badly and averagely oxidized battery let alone an optimal amount to occasionally add to a functioning battery to keep it in good conditions until the very end. Eagerly looking forward to your answer. Thank you!

Rinoa's, I noticed you didn't drain the old acid out of the battery which I've seen in other videos. How much Epsom salt did you add to how much distilled water? I heard you say too much Epsom salts will cause damage to the battery.

You can easily and QUICKLY desulfate a 12V battery with a 20V laptop charger (Or a variable power supply) I restored 2 100AH AGM batteries with this method This is my favourite way of desulfating batteries The following instructions are intended for a 12V 200AH battery or equivalent Adjust times and discharge current to match your battery For a 100AH battery the discharge current and overcharge time will be half For a 50AH battery the discharge current and overcharge time will be a quarter and so on but the voltages should be the same regardless of battery capacity *do not exceed 30 min of continuous overcharge time regardless of battery capacity* Charge the battery with your charger of choice Connect a 20V 90W laptop charger to it and allow it to overcharge for about 20 min Disconnect from the charger and let it rest for about an hour Then discharge to about 10.5V with about 65A DC (700-800W from an inverter is good) Then repeat the steps until your battery is working properly again (usually if the battery is recoverable you should see improved runtime after the first 2 cycles) The battery should be back in working condition after around 10 cycles but it may take more depending on how much sulfation there is ***DISCLAIMER*** *YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RESTORE IT TO BRAND NEW CONDITION SO DONT TRY OR YOU WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY THE BATTERY THIS METHOD IS INTENDED TO GET YOUR BATTERY WORKING WELL ENOUGH TO PUT BACK INTO SERVICE* *THIS WILL NOT FIX A SHORTED OR DEAD CELL* (but you are welcome to try if you want) *Pulse charging is absolute rubbish and is likely to damage your battery* *And battery charger desulfation programs DO NOT WORK*

@truegritbulldog

8 жыл бұрын

+mewantbrains I've seen this done with either Nicd or Li batteries to kill crystals that form....Not sure how it works with Pb...But to get this strait, If I took an old laptop charger, spliced a + and - alligator clip then ran it on the battery for X time it will desulfate? Maybe I have to repeat cycle, but I get the idea...Looking for videos on this and cannot find it. I'd think the laptop charger would cut off...Either trip a fuse or internal protection...

@mewantbrains

8 жыл бұрын

It should work just fine for lead acid batteries it is my preferred method of desulfation The charger I use is a Lenovo 20V 90W laptop charger Part number 92P1107 It has no overload fuse and won't trip when connected to a 12V battery but it will heat up a lot so make sure it has plenty of ventilation by drilling a few holes in the plastic cover DO NOT TRY THIS WITH LITHIUM BATTERIES OR YOU WILL DESTROY THEM

@truegritbulldog

8 жыл бұрын

+mewantbrains Going to look around for a charger now....

@mewantbrains

8 жыл бұрын

Just beware that Chinese knock offs of this may have an overload fuse which will make them useless for this application Just put an ampmeter in series with the positive wire and see if it cuts out

@truegritbulldog

8 жыл бұрын

+mewantbrains I've got an 18.5V 65W....I think 3.5amp. Think that'll do?

Is it recommended to charge with rubber caps off when u add electrolite?....can u charge with caps on?....normally battery has caps on so....

I have an OEM battery from a 2009 Mazda3. Can you suggest how I may restore that battery for use?

cmiiw, but isnt the recommended rating for the discharge of that battery is at 3 amps max for a short period and .3 ish for a prolonged duration? maybe that explains why the drop in the discharge to 850s?

The music reminds of...SPLOOOSH!!! good stuff!

That music makes oi churkle!

Hey, don't know if it's been mentioned, but you're using the Ni-Cad charge/discharge function when you should be using the PB or lead acid option... Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but the PB function does fully charge and discharge the battery, unless you're using the Ni-Cad setting for a reason I'm not aware of.

@duffman6675

2 жыл бұрын

He is only using NiCd discharge mode, probably because it lets him set the termination voltage. He is using the Variable Power Supply to charge.

There are several things for battery repairing do not try to do this unless you are sure what you are doing - the acid can burn you check the voltage first - there may be a kaput cell which will waste your time. Check your battery fluid. attempt to completely recharge the battery. (I learned about these from Rapid Renew Roadmap site )

I have a large yuasa 125ah battery for auxillary power in my shed. Sadly the solar charger failed & the battery ran down to 3v. Ive just put it on charge, believing it would be pointless, however its holding charge at around 12.2v. Do i need to just add distilled water with epson salts to it as it is or to flush out the existing acid (Which is clear not dirty) &how far to fill?

Epsom salt and a small charge to make the sulfate soluble. Shake and empty. Then fill back up with battery acid, charge and it's like new. Epsom salt will not hold a charge and it's intent is not to be the electrolyte. It's intention is to make the sulfate soluble in water to get it out of the battery and expose the lead. I never understand why people go to the trouble of neutralizing the battery with baking soda, then rinsing it out and doing all the work to get it cleaned out then they put stuff in like epsom salt or Alum or whatever and expect it to charge. Just go get battery acid from O'Reilly for 10 bucks a gallon. Put the legit stuff back in the battery. Charge and then test with hydrometer to see if the specific gravity is right. Too high then add distilled, too low then add more acid. Not that hard people.

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this was a great video thanks

Why did you chose a NiCd battery on your charger rather than Lead ?

At 1:50 minutes in.....you had me rolling! lol

This guy sound's exactly like NED FLANDER'S from the Sympson's.

@daviscc65

8 жыл бұрын

Diddly

@BaddaBigBoom

7 жыл бұрын

Ned Flander's what? What belonging to Ned Flanders? What belonging to the "Sympsons"?

@bertgoat

4 жыл бұрын

okily dokily

Looks a bit dodgy. From what I understand, you have to replace the acid solution *entirely* with the magnesium sulfate solution. Your findings are based on what seems to be a misunderstanding of the requirements. Bear in mind that all of this is only relevant to reviving a sulfated battery, not attempting to increase the capacity of one that is still good.

Is there are many varieties of Epson salt is there or only Epson salt magnesium sulfate .....? #permanentscope

Excellent video thanks !!!

hey please tell me if you dont have epsom magnesium sulfate can any epsom salt work

my battery was at 11.1 . I opened it up and found it near empty took around 1.1 liters of bottled water to bring the levels up ...did i do bad or good?

So adding a little bit to baterry that has trouble starting car during winter might help giving some more amps, but it will shorten it's (alredy) short life?

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

yeah., but idk how much it will effect life span. maybe not by much.

I am currently on my second year of using a car battery that was 5 years old and would no take a charge. I put a tablespoon of water saturated with Epsom Salt in each cell, trickle charge for 24 hours, and have had no problems. Car starts like normal - even on cold weather. Did the same with a dead tractor battery that would not take a charge - been running fine now for a year.

@robt8048

9 жыл бұрын

Did you do this without draining the cells?

@LeeBrewer42

9 жыл бұрын

Rob Totten Correct - I just added a tablespoon of the saturated water. I used a 16 oz drink bottle; added 9 tablespoons Epsom Salt and just enough water to dilute it. The trickle charge was the 2 Amp setting. After that initial charge there has been no issue. This is the second winter it has gone through and the car starts up fine in the AM even though it sits outside all night. Supposedly when this wears out in 5 or so years, you can empty the battery of everything and use just the Epsom Salt solution. I don't know yet, but my father did this with a lawn mower battery and it worked. He said it has trouble starting when its colder though (for snow plowing).

@robt8048

9 жыл бұрын

Good ,thanks for the clarification will try this on my next one.I just put the granules straight in so got it wrong but I tried emptying the battery and completely refilling with dissolved salts and this seems to be working as I now have the battery at 13.3 V on a 1 amp charge rate. Cheers, Rob.

welll why no specific amount of e salt. ?? seems that would be very important

Could you try a cheap Chinese pulse repair charger like the Tianye RJ-120501A from Ali express ,. or similar. Do they get a battery back, In capacity, Amp hours, CCA amps etc. My anecdotal evidence(car easily starts again) is they actually work provided plates are not warped or shorted.

Will Kentucky Fried Chicken revive a battery? Just messing with ya, cool vid.

Quite fascinating

You know that charger has a PB mode correct? This is what it is for, lead acid batteries. I don't know if it affects the discharge numbers but it will smart charge 12-volt batteries and tell you exactly how many amps went in and how many come out. Just a tip.

Love your vids very interesting

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

thanks! i love your comments, very rewarding :D

can you add the solution straight to the battery electolite?

Love the video. Thank you

Would u add a capacitor to your car?

After you finished everything what would happen if you emptied the battery and added distilled water

Why use the NiCd battery mode (I use the iMax) when it has a Pb (Lead) mode?

@duffman6675

2 жыл бұрын

He is only using NiCd discharge mode, probably because it lets him set the termination voltage. He is using the Variable Power Supply to charge.

the 1000 flask... you over there cooking?

the 16 amp load is way to big for a battery this size, when used in a deepcycle scenario your killing the plates, thats why the capacity was deminishing...

@TheAnantaSesa

7 жыл бұрын

Deep cycle have thicker plates for slow but sustained loads. Cranking batteries have more thin plates for increased amps in a burst. The fragility of thin plates makes them bad for deep cycling.

@futurikon

3 жыл бұрын

@@emiliorios6076 That site is a scam.

I have experimented with additive electrolytes. Not much help or not necessary. Battery University site says sulfation is reversible and corrosion is not. A battery ruined by leaving lights on, or doors open, or just not being charge for too long, can be desulfated with solar/charge controller therapy. (20 watt panel and cheap ebay charge controller) Can take up to a week or so. No need to mess with chemicals. Check water level and add a touch of distilled maybe. If the battery is corroded, it is a lost cause one way or the other. (plates do disintegrate in time)

Your a god damned mad scientist!

Was enjoyable to watch. For constructive criticism? I think more time and efficiency during the period of conception and a different hypothesis could have been helpful. But I guess that depends on your intentions. Not to say I am smart or a genius, nor would I claim to be. Too many things are discovered by accident, but the best are usually intentional.

Did you use distilled water?

There are plenty of salty electrolytes in KFC....

What is the mix measurement of Epsom salt to say half a pint of water.

i hav 150A 12 volt lead acid inverter batery , 7 years old and it start working poorly science last year and add acid in one cell ,but now i knew how stupid was that idea and now one cell in which i put acid is not charging properly n when i check sp gravity of acid on that cell it only rise to 12.00 which should be 12.50 i add some chemical found in the market but not working well and now it doesnt takes charge too even i replaced smart charger .....so i am thinking of adding epson salt so how much gram of sla is needed in each cell and how could i raise sp gr of that cell from 12 to 12.50

is the magnesium sulfate saturating the solution with the sulfate ion, increasing the conductivity of the water with the magnesium ion, but are you going to set the battery up for a bumper crop of sulfate crystals?

@RinoaL

9 жыл бұрын

youd only get more sulfate if you let it sit at a low voltage. doing this should let you keep the voltage up thus slowing the sulfation.

What the exact mixing measure of distilled water and Epson salt..thank you.Godbless

hello should i remove the lead acid electrolyte before adding epsom salt? there are epsom salt on depend %: for bath ,for agriculture use and as food compliment my provide told me about.Wich one ?

@RinoaL

9 жыл бұрын

no you dont need to replace the electrolyte.

Throw some silica gel packs in the epsom salts. Ironically salt is a desiccant and absorbs moisture so you need a desiccant for the desiccant.. Or do like Steven wright and put a humidifier and a dehumidifier in the same room and let them fight it out.

@scottbaylo

8 жыл бұрын

Nice! We should think about Steven wright at least 3 times per day, he is a genius. Mitch hedberg was the closest we ever got to another SW, and we were robbed of some great comedy when he died.

this boy must love his chicken!!

@vaigafaiole7380

6 жыл бұрын

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@davidran5923

5 жыл бұрын

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@davidran5923

5 жыл бұрын

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@toneyingram732

5 жыл бұрын

Most white s do but try to lie

I have a problem with the IMAX basic charger could u help me ?

wht u run hte discharge on a nicad run?

I do a lot of Epson salt battery recovery's and I use 1 cup of salt to 3 cups of water. a car battery will use between 12 and 16 cups of fluid. I charge at 2 amps for several days. they don't have a good reading on my load tester but they seem to work okay.

@hrhchazman

8 жыл бұрын

+Geo Jeff I've found that using a charger that starts at a higher amperage and "backs off" as the battery charges gives much better results. My first reconditioning experiment with epsom salts was on my John Deere lawn tractor battery. It was pretty much dead after about 4 years, and wouldn't hold a charge for more than a day or two. (And I did keep it on a trickle charge over the Winters) I tried the epsom salt treatment three years ago. The battery now starts my JD like it's a new battery. I never got into all the nerdy battery load, test crap, blah, blah, blah, I just did it, and it worked. I have revived many batteries since, for myself and for friends, with excellent results.

Why are you using the NI-CD function on the imax while the battery is pb.(Sealed lead acid battery)

@RinoaL

9 жыл бұрын

so i could set the voltage at witch it ends the test. the Pb mode is set to only one voltage but the nicad can be adjusted.

@RinoaL

9 жыл бұрын

***** your replying in the wrong comment thread, hope you know that. not counting your repeating yourself.

I saw a video where everything charged fine, but the cranking amps were too low..

Bro does it work in small 3 volt bateries that has only one hole

please what are measurement of the epsom salt and the disstined water pls

About 9:20. Battery acid is usually around 30% sulfuric acid.

that worked great! thanks

I am looking for a new battery charger so i can charge multiple voltage batteries. I see you are using a DC Power Supply. Do you use this to charge the batteries? Do you have to monitor it? Let me know the advantages and disadvantages if you can. thanks and nice video.

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

a manual power supply gives you a lot of information an control, only downside is you cant just let it charge and expect it to turn off by itself. but usually i put it on a low amp setting with a not very high voltage. so even if i did forget it for like 2 weeks, it would just get to 13.3v or something and just start taking less and less current till its like 20 milliamps.

stupid wisdom time, could one add h2o2 to oxidise the sulphates? Then use some mechanical filtration to remove it from solution? or am I showing my brilliant ignorance and this isn't possible?

But how do you add more Amps to a battery ?

I've got a pile of weak batteries from old jet skis and automobiles so I'll be trying this or a similar version. The difference I see in this and another video is the other guy poured out the spent acid, filled with water to rinse it out then used a solution of 1 cup of Alum (aluminum sulfate) rather than the epsom salt (magnesium sulphate). I am concerned about using the correct proportions/concentrations... also, have you experimented with other chemical solutions? How does this compare to refilling with fresh battery acid after an internal rinse?

@dixoncider7256

8 жыл бұрын

aNuthaRedneck I think you just have to try it on your own. I agree you should empty the acid, add you solution, charge it, dump the solution , then re-add the acid. Just trying to figure out if its epsom salts or alum.

@aNuthaRedneck

8 жыл бұрын

I used epsom salts.... I just didn't get good results.

@dixoncider7256

8 жыл бұрын

Like another youtuber said, it works on like 1 out of 10 batteries. I did this yesterday and the battery that would not charge and would run a 300 watt inverter fan for three seconds charged up and ran a water pump for 15 minutes.

Hi, I was wondering if you can mix Epsom salt with alum and get the benefits of both. Also, I hear borax helps stop corrosion, could you try it out and let us know if this helps. and lastly, how do you desulfate a battery? I hear it is doable, but what works best?

@RinoaL

10 жыл бұрын

thanks for the ideas, and the best way to desulfate a battery is with a pulse desulfator.

Can we put epsom salt in distilled water then put it in batery

I would have cleaned the battery with baking soda, rinsed and then added Alume, to recondition and then run the tests :)