So what do you guys think?

@n0nyabznss

Жыл бұрын

I prefer loud but with some questions.... On the Marshall, why did the clips sound virtually the same if a JCM800 doesn't have a Gain knob? All I saw from both reference tones was that the master knob moved from 1 to 4. To my knowledge, the JCM800 needs to be dimed to get good tones and the baby 800 didn't behave that way. The Orange.... I hate their labeling scheme for the knobs and noticed the same deal as the 800. The Mesa sounded virtually the same as well with more top end on the loud setting. Can you tell us what settings were changed from the normal vs. loud settings? I would've been good to see you tweak the levels and also have a room/cab mic instead of using a reactive load.

@void_snw

Жыл бұрын

I think a bit of that smoothing is probably good, but too much and you lose definition. Here I preferred the quieter takes! On that same note, you should reeeaaally check out that video by Jim Lill. Absolutely eye opening when it comes to interactions of different parts of an amp. It's this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZd2p7GcgNfSic4.html

@luca4352

Жыл бұрын

@@n0nyabznss The 800 does have a gain knob, it is labeled as 'preamp'. If you would push the master volume even further, there would be more gain, but not more loudness. I think you misunderstood this video. All the settings are the same, only variable is the master volume, which is set relativeley quiet or relatively loud as seen on the video.

@hkguitar1984

Жыл бұрын

Especially on the Marshall I could tell the difference in the loud. There was a passage played where during the loud the Marshall seemed to have a bit of mids push.

@Nicholas-Santiago

Жыл бұрын

subtler differences than i was expecting, but HOLY CRAP your riffs are fantastic!!

Man that Orange just plain sounded killer all around.

@SonicDriveStudio

Жыл бұрын

It never fails to impress!

@BlaCkLaBeL2002

Жыл бұрын

It sounds SO damn good!!

@valkyrieseaurchins

Жыл бұрын

I AGREE…. Wow..

I also prefer something in between blazingly loud and quiet, then dial in from there. I'd like to hear a comparison that includes the Engl Fireball 25 and MT-15.

I'm really glad that you did these demo because i realize that i like it more on your quiet settings,it has more definition to my ear.thanks for sharing,knowledge is always appreciate

Wow!! What a cool experiment! I really dug both quiet and loud! Knowing this definitely helps in exploring more tonal options with my amp, or any amp!

Another superb video Jon! This was a great illustration of finding the “sweet spot” and how important it is to use one’s ears. Modern reactive loads allow us to this in any location while keeping Fletcher & Munson out of the equation. Cheers 🤘🏻😎🎸

Fascinating comparison. I've also heard numerous claims that Amps sound better when cranked, but I preferred the "quite" tones on all those Amps for the same reasons you mentioned. Thanks

Such a great comparison and instructive video. Thanks for sharing this.

Really interesting, thanks for this video! BTW so happy you use Ownhammer again, so pleasant to my ears :)

Thanks Jon. Great video as usual.

Brilliantly done, and man that Rockerverb sounds killer !!

I just discovered your channel and I think it's awesome. A lot of helpful content

YES! This video was so useful! I prefer the quiet tones to the loud ones. This flies in the face of years of marketing and traditional guitar "wisdom".

Appreciate this video Jon. Cranking them is the opposite of what I want out of an amp. Mushy and undefined. I much prefer the articulate (and IMO) balanced sound of the quieter volumes. It's sort of like the difference between a Les Paul and a Tele. As usual, quality riffs :)

Great riffs as always man big respect💪👍😎

Loved the video! More please

Just have to see all of your demos you use for your tests Are bad ass great work sir

Thank you for this great research!

fantastic analysis. 🎸🔥🤘

I actually really like the sound of my Dual Rectifier at a lower volume. I figured I'd need an attenuator to get the goods, so I was pleasantly surprised.

Fantastic Video Jon. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I prefer the sound of all of the amps at their quiet level. That was a real eye opener. I think I like the articulation of the playing being more present, due to, I think, the less compression and saturation the tubes are imparting. What would be REALLY interesting is if you could do this exact thing again, but mic up a cabinet and then level match the results to see the effect that the cab has on the tone (pushed vs not so pushed). Great job man... Loved It!!

@Zappabain

Жыл бұрын

I saw a guy search for the tone of Nevermind by Nirvana. He only achieved it with the old version of some cabs, I think they were Green-whatever. Think is I'd say they sounded better for that Nevermind tone because they added distortion at those levels, and the new ones probably didn't because it's not something sought after nowadays.

Friggin' great idea and execution.

Cool experiment and glad to finally confirm that volumes don't necessarily matter. I agreed with all you said about all 3 three amps and especially enjoyed the quiet tones of the Mesa Recto! I have a few myself so I am a little bias ;) Great video \m/

I think you hit it on the head John, most people are hearing the fletcher Munson curve when they crank up the amp and mistakenly think that it’s the amp that is causing the perceived tonal difference.

Wow! Interesting. I hear the same results with my Mesa Throttle Box EQ pedal (when playing around with its volume knob) thru the normal input of my Boss Katana 100 compared to the Dual Recto in this vid. Thanks for this video. Nice!

Great job! Thanks from Sweden. 🙋🏻‍♂️

I've always preferred big tube amps at a medium volume, even with bass. Otherwise, the low end gets blurry and the highs get too compressed. Great demo!

So glad you did this. I've never believed that an amp cranked would actually sound better, and you demonstrated this. I preferred the lower volume settings. Higher volume setting sounded more compressed (not in a good way) and more tubby (for lack of a better term).

Yeah, on my Mini Jubilee the difference between the master below 12:00 and over 12:00 is massive, it gets so fat and juicy without losing clarity tho. I love it! (I use an attenuator)

Here goes. 1. Marshall: It's great when quiet. Lotsa transients and very rock sounding. Loud sounds too puffy. 2. Orange. Totally into the cranked version. Just adds more body to an already great tone! 3. Recto. Quieter wins here. Rectos are meant for preamp distortion and just a hint of power coloration. This is a great example. As always your compare vids are the best!

I preferred them closer to the quiet side. I like the definition in the notes better. I run my Recto-Verb 25 quieter most of the time for recording and noticed you did as well on your demos. But when I'm just playing through my cab in the room, kind of hard to beat the feeling of cranking it up and moving some air 😅

I prefer them quiet. Great video! I've been experimenting with my amps at home using an attenuator and without, and I'm actually feeling like the attenuator is not needed. As long as the volume control allows for a quiet level.

Great work! All the sounds are good. I'd like the orange. 👍😃😎🤘

I Really like that video ! Nice playing, nice editing, very good experiment ! However. I do own an AC15, a Roadking II head and a Valveking 100 and I've recorded quite a bit with those things through a mic'ed 2x12 (hughes&kettner tm212) and a SM57 + E906 and also through my Torpedo load box. I must say that I don't trust my ears when comparing quiet vs loud in the room because load will always sounds better to a music afficionado haha. In the DAW however, When I want to go through a cab for various reasons, I always record my amps at loud volumes because there is kind of a mid-range presence and top-end smoothing that I can't get at lower volumes. The loadbox on the other hand will offer me similar results as I hear on this video between loud and quiet! Again, your experiment really captures the compression that happens while driving the power tubes and it is the best video to showcase that ! But I do believe there is more to the question if we consider the recording through a cab and mics part ! to me, recording through mics and cabs, driving those tubes is effectively compressing the sound but also, in my opinion, unlocking a wonderful tonal potential that can only be found if you change the amp's settings to better fit your newly acquired compression, which will unfortunately prevent an adequate analysis/comparison on youtube ! If it makes sense, I can get a more aggressive sounding rythmic tone with less fizz at high volumes than at low volumes... Its almost like the amp being naturally compressed and how the speaker moves affects your EQ in a way where it removes the high-end harshness so you can be more aggressive on those mid and treble knobs without compromising tone or making your amp sound like a weed wacker.. Like its ''fuller, richer''. Only my 2 cents coming from a very very limited background in recording amps. I know you have way more experience and knowledge than I do and you might have tested what I'm saying already without finding any different results which would mean I'm just not recording real amps properly and I can live with that too hahaha ! huge respect for your work man ! keep it up

Killer rifs, man! 🤘💪

Great video. There was much less of a difference in tone than I expected. The same guys you were talking about who say you have to crank an amp to really hear the tubes work are going to complain that you didn’t dime the amps, and that you have to max out the volume to really hear a difference.

My experience is each amp usually has its optimal sweet spot somewhere in the middle ground. My Mesa Triple rec didn't sound great turned up super loud nor did it sound good at very quiet volumes. The master around 10 o'clock was where it worked. Each amp has a sweet spot where it behaves well, is stable and dynamic. What you showed is exactly my experience with amps as well. Great job.

Appreciate your vids brother. I play my EVH 50watt 6l6 at bedroom volume daily and I think it sounds good . I don't get a chance to crank it to often so not sure if it's much better loud or not. Lol

Great video! I seemed to like the Orange and the Mesa at low volume, but the Marshal sounded better loud. I find Marshals kind of ice pick like at low volume, which explains why I was never able to jive with my DSL40C.

Great video, been pondering precisely should I get a load to get that 'crank it up' sound for Engl Powerball I. Based on this, no. Low level tones imo are superb on PB I. Please, if You have the time. put Your powerball 2 to the test, would clarify what is the effect in Engls. Thanks for the great enlightening video.

Yea, I had some questions too because every amp is different in terms of what happens when you push it. I think a loud comparison would have been better with the volumes at 1 and 8-10. Regardless of wether or not it gets dark, if you leave the EQ the same it will remain dark. So EQ it for the low setting and then EQ it for the loud setting. You should be able to achieve just as clear of a sound with the Marshall when it's cranked, but with thicker, fuller mids. Obviously not all tube amps sound better when they're cranked. Some start to get nasty sounding. Every amp has a sweet spot. Also, wattage has less to do with loudness and more to do with headroom, mostly when you get past the 15-20w amps. How much can I turn it up before the power amp section starts to become affected. If you don't push the amp then the preamp section is free to do its thing cleanly rather then become affected/flavored by the power section.

Great job! Is your mesa bias warmer than stock(is it modded)? I preferred the quiet DR and often quiet DR's have a little too much crossover to sound good.

It really depends on the genre and your taste. I record quite loud in general but I'm probably dialing some highs back in and/or cut some lows to avoid mush compared to a quieter recording. I already tried pushing a marshall to the max and it's the way you get the VH "brown sound" with that typical sag in the lows, tons harmonics and gain from the power tubes. It's funny cause the EQ becomes almost like a pre-gain eq in this situation.

I played almost 10 years with an Evh 5150 III 50w mk1 at lower level (bedroom level). Since last December I plugged it in a powerstation 2 which allowed me to crank it up between 1 or 2 o'clock and it's it's like night and day. I'm know able to lower the gain knob under 11 o'clock on blue channel and with to help of the power tubes saturation i'm able to have enough gain to sound less modern

In all cases I preferred the quiet sound. The loud sounds just sounded dark, compressed, and flubby on the low end. Edit: Once again, I have to compliment your playing, Jon. You are a talented riff writer.

@agirotto1

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Louder samples were all a bit muffled.

@JorisGriffioen

Жыл бұрын

Remember no other settings are changed. This is why you should tweak your tone at the volume that you'll actually use it.

@svenzia

Жыл бұрын

Agree with Paul

@bungwung4797

Жыл бұрын

true

@guilherme0stevan

Жыл бұрын

Is he using impulse response for cabs? 🤔 Because real speakers has more difference...

Great video. If you want clarity and articulation, go quiet. If you want to smooth out the highs and emphasize the mids, along with smearing things up just a bit, go loud. Nice!

To my ears the Marshall has more individual string definition and harmonics at quiet level and slightly brighter.. however the compression and smoothness of the loud level is more suited to chugging and metal type tones...both very usable..the orange one is more subtle but get the same effect w compression and darker tone.. quiet level is more open...the mesa was very much consistent throughout imo...more noticeable with chugging for sure..great video man.. would love to hear another 3 amps! The soldano slo and the evh iconic and the Friedman dirty Shirley?

Thanks for doing this! Way LESS difference than I tought. Subtle shades of how much compression and loudness one prefers. Could probably be tweaked with other parameters. Cheers

I liked them both in high volume, and in quite volume. For a great tone with a little of both, i would play it somewhat in the middle of what you set them to. Kinda what you said😊 Yeah it will be exiting with some other amps aswell. And same other amps i would like to hear in a similar test is amps I’ve got: 1. Engl Fireball 25 2. Marshall JVM410H 3. EVH 5150 III 6l6 50w And some amps i’m looking for: 4. Mesa Badlander el34 50w 5. Laney IRT60H 6. Bugera 6262 infinium Please consider my choices. They would be great interesting and quit different sounding overall👍🏻 Thanx Jon for exiting vids that almost everytime is usefull (for me that is) and makes a different! Cheees from Sweden🇸🇪🍻🤘🏻

Hey man! Really dig your channel, and tunes! Just wanted to say this. 4 on an amp is the starting point,. when amps begin to open up 6.5- 7 is where the magic of the output tubes happen using w real cabs pushing the spkrs. Which is when they sound their best. I 've worked alongside some of the big names in rock and that's how it's done when using a real amps and cabs at large venues and large festival shows.

@Casrock1

Жыл бұрын

@@deconstruction3397 Actually, when you back off the pre and crank the volume, they sound great. Too much pre and volume past a certain point on the amp is exactly that. Give it a shot and you'll hear quite the difference.

@Casrock1

Жыл бұрын

@@deconstruction3397 No disrespect but I know what I know after 25+ yrs. Happy Holidays!

Hey. Jon. Thanks for the informative video! I now realize that Recto sounds better if it cranked up, so it compress the fizzy top end a bit. For another high gain amp, I think they sounds best at quiet level.

@SonicDriveStudio

Жыл бұрын

Depends if you like the fizz or not. For me, with a Recto it's a part of that sound.

Dude you always have really good riffs. I'm jealous I didn't write them lol.

the difference is very small but the loud setting sounds tighter. good video

Rad video man! Just found your channel. What songs are you playing in these examples? Sounds great!

@SonicDriveStudio

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! My own tunes always

Awesome show

The quiet versions had a little more treble but sound close enough not to matter. The thing is that cranking tube amps for tone refers mainly to non high gain amps(when set to low volume) such as plexis, JTMs, Fenders and vox ACs. The amps you tried don't fit the traditional reason for needing to crank them up

@MrSneakyPants

Жыл бұрын

a little more to it than that, but you are partially correct.

@joejohnson8966

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSneakyPants yes, same answer from me.

@MrSneakyPants

Жыл бұрын

@@joejohnson8966 right? There are other considerations like not having a dedicated master volume on an amp, etc.

@joejohnson8966

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSneakyPants oh, for sure.

Really interesting video 👌👌

to my ears, loud master vol = less definition and clarity (all else being equal). But you could also turn the pre down and master up and get a diff tone and maybe up to where even the speakers barely clip so you get various sounds that aren't "better" but different. just how I hear it.

Hi, John, the sounds are incredible and the riffing ist great. Wish I could repeat the riffs by myself at home (in a earfriendly volume 😆😆). Are there some tabs available? Would appreciate this!!🤟

love your riff

I'm surprised you didn't turn up the amps more. The "loud" level was less than halfway up on the master (yes that's still loud with a speaker, but you're using a load box...). It's no surprise the difference was subtle. I suggest doing a follow-up with three volume levels: quiet (as in this clip), medium (just over halfway up) and cranked (all the way up). Also, in an actual live or recording scenario, you would adjust the preamp gain and tone controls when cranking up the amp. For example, on the JCM800, you could reduce the preamp gain when the power tubes start clipping, which makes the preamp brighter (due to the bright cap), adding sparkle, as the poweramp gets darker.

Grat video, thank you! My preference goes to the "Quiet" sound, anyway "De gustibus non est disputandum".

Bought a Fryette PS100 to get the sound I wanted out of my 20 watt JCM 800 at low levels. It can keep the same sound at different volume levels now. Like the foot switchable effects loop on it as well.

I’m only up to the Marshall. Very interesting. What guitar did you use on and what position was the switch in ? Sorry if you mentioned that i was briefly in another room. BTW you you should release your music somewhere if you haven’t already coz tbh I love listening to it. Greetings from NZ 😎🎸🤘

Orange as usually awesome. In terms of amps that can show that difference between quite and loud I think that need to think about sweetspot that you mentioned. I think quality and taste of sound means more than just loudness. Overcompressed amps sound lifeless. Also need to mention that in a different mix(different style) it may sound better as too compressed, who knows. Thank you for awesome video!

@vanderHoffTeachings

Жыл бұрын

The Orange is impressive !

There’s a great vid I came across demonstrating the old Marshals without a gain knob. He ran a volt meter across the output transformer. When hitting power cords, the output transformer dropped from 400v to 240 or below. Basically overloading it, and drops out. . This is where the “tube crunch compression” really comes from

first time in a while i took the bait, very cool video!

Interesting video. I would imagine there's a pretty sweet butter zone somewhere in between the loud and quiet settings. Especially for someone who would be using real speakers.

Very interesting, Rockerverb handles loud settings best, i think, bit thats not fair, as i`m a big fan of this amp. Would be really interested in a video about how the attenuator in the Rockerverb MK3 affects the sound. I also own one, but would be nice to hear your opinion on it.

I've always heard "crank it up to sound good" for one of three categories: 1) non master volume amps 2) when speaker breakup is desired (e.g. greenbacks; Nuno has talked about liking them before, for specifically this purpose) 3) for when you want as much power tube saturation as possible (so... starting with ~4 on the master volume for your mini-jcm800, and then turned all of the way up as the comparison to to when it's at 4); often this is with non-master-volume amps, but also with some of the high-gain master-volume late-90s amps like the Mark IV that normally have a ton of headroom at bedroom volumes.

power amp that uses push pull needs a 12ax7 to split the signal So such amp at louder levels pushes the power tubes phase inverter the sound you get isn’t quiet Power tubes break up ;) & + at louder level you must ad the speaker optimal loudness they tend to add their distortion . frequencies . its sensitivity its optimum volume of expression has a different braking point. & its the biggest change in sounds overall. I tend not to fall into such categories as Better or bad vs good. to me its a lauded term. If it sounds good its good. if it fits in . than better . Experiment with your gear & see where it takes you . The main point … Cool riff in Man ! love it !

It would have been a help if you’d have posted the db levels of the quiet and loud so people would know how quiet it was and how much louder it was, other than that very enlightening

Great video Jon. Did you blackout tje mesa yourself using plastidip? It looks like the paint is coming of on some parts. Or is that just artifact’s on my KZread quality?

@SonicDriveStudio

Жыл бұрын

One of the previous owners did that

Fletcher Munson and sound in the room is super important. Ears are weird things. From what I'm hearing, the master volume on the Marshall adds bass and sag, makes notes less articulate, and you end up with less control over palm mutes and playing dynamics. It seem like with the master turned down, a nice boost pedal could make more of a difference over the sound. As you said, you'd really want to change the EQ settings for the volume difference. Could definitely see where you'd want certain parts of songs to be recorded with lower master for clarity. A more compressed rhythm sound that tucks into the mix might work better with a high master.

Love quiet for hi-gain sounds and pushing a master section to get dirty cleans and juicy crunches. Hello from Russia. ❤

Hi. Great video. The moabi pack in ownhammer is only available for fractal audioat the moment,not wav file.. the fractal ir files worked on your ir loader ?

If you're using a cabinet instead of an i.r. you do get a little resonance from the wood vibrating at higher volumes. Just like a 112 vs a 412 cabinet varies using the same amp. I know the Marshall dsl series has a capacitor on the master volume that brightens them up at lower volumes, most mod's I've seen are of disconnecting that bright cap'

Great comparison! I think quiet vs cranked depends a lot what kind of music you play, and how you want the guitar to sit in the mix. In my experience, power tube breakup works best in combination with more moderate preamp gain. When the power amp gets hit with a signal that still has a lot of the dynamics intact, it gets to work its magic by smoothing out the peaks and fattening up the lower mids, making the amp feel more "alive" and easier to play. But when the preamp is designed to do that stuff on its own (like in modern high gain amps), there isn't much magic to work. It would be interesting to hear a comparison between cranked preamp / low master, and cranked master / low preamp, while trying to match the overall overdrive levels between the two settings.

@alanst.4417

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I was thinking something similar, although not that elaborate 😁

The Orange RV50mkIII was the best one cranked! It sounded bigger and the Marshall and Mesa sounded like they were collapsing on themselves a bit. Team #orangeamps!

I'd really like to see this done again but with a mic'd cab. The "amp sweet spot" thing pre-dates the modern load-box/IR technique by quite a number of years, and I bet the speaker cabinet has a lot to do with that.

@bobbyblair6862

Жыл бұрын

Most wouldn't hear a difference, unless your a "golden ear"

@ophic

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbyblair6862 I dunno, to my ears there's an mic/cab dynamic that you only get with a certain amount of volume. I disagree with his statement that speakers are linear up to distortion - I also think they're non-linear at the quiet end. Or maybe it comes from the mic - no idea, I've just had a lot more success miking cabs with a bit of volume.

@mrcoatsworth429

Жыл бұрын

@@ophic you may say that (and I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong), but I'd really like to see how you'd perform in a blindtest with recordings of a mic'ed cab and an IR of the exact same setup. Human perception is easily deceived by visuals and preconceptions.

@ophic

Жыл бұрын

@@mrcoatsworth429 Probably couldn't tell the difference, as long as the speaker cab was loud enough to be equivalent to the IR. If the cab was miked at a very low volume, I think I could tell. Maybe if the IR was created at the same low volume, it would sound identical.

@mrcoatsworth429

Жыл бұрын

@@ophic maybe, I don't know. Has anybody experimented with creating IRs at different volumes? That would be very interesting.

I love this channel

I admit that I skipped right to the Dual Rec since I have one also, but I would say the quieter level was better overall. I record mine the same way. Playing excessively loud is probably overrated, especially for home recording purposes. Years ago I called Mesa directly and asked them what a "decent" volume level would be needed to a good recording volume for any of their amps (all pre-IRs and going direct, mind you) and I was told "not that loud - slightly loud is more than enough". So take that for what it's worth.

It really made a big difference on the marshall I prefer lower volume on that one for sure. Mesa and the orange wasn't that noticeable. But dang that rockerverb sounds so good

That Orange amp sounds really good dude.

A thought: What about the FEELING of louder volume levels? With the DI box and IRs, do you still play your speakers louder so you feel the vibrations in the ground and air? I find these vibrations to be very very satisfying when playing more aggressive music

@destavaiwira9997

Жыл бұрын

Play loud before first note: "my neighbor gonna be mad..." After first note: "I don't give a **** if I'm mad..."

The Newer amps or modern amps sound at low volumes good enough. But older amps really begin to shine at a certain volume. By the way, in which mode were the Rectifier? Diode or Pentode?

interesting. but only using IR's, if you use a 2x12 or any cab, there's a point where the cab pushes the air in a different way. as you probably know, you need certain power to drive a speaker, so probably the myth of LOUD is more about the cab than the amp itself. but it's also true (at least to my ears) that theres a sweet spot for the amp and the cab. usually an amp on full throttle will not sound as good. Love your videos, btw.

I dig the Engls, I have a 50w engl tube, but I feel like I rarely, if ever, see anyone else that has one

The difference is miniscule on distorted tones, especially using IR's. Clean/edge of breakup-fuzz tones is where it really shines, through an in the room real speaker/cab. I have a vintage silverface super reverb 4x10 combo with an attenuator hooked to it and it gets quite nice in that category. Theres a huge difference in cranked and low volume with those types of tones.

Great video, both quiet and loud volumes have their places. However I do think, especially with the Marshall, you should decrease the bass going to the poweramp. More saturation in the power section will also cause, naturally, more saturated lows. This will in its turn make the sound more muffled. IMO you should always set the EQ to match the level (and saturation) you are using.

Amazing, in all 3 situations I prefered the Quieter tones!

You should make this a series

You convinced me to buy an attenuator for the Mesa that I sold years ago.

Proved this to myself years ago with a reactive load box and IR loader. Sometimes power amp distortion sounds cool, especially in doom metal, but if you want a bright aggressive tone it’s easier to get at lower volumes.

@destavaiwira9997

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I was misled myself with so called heavy strings, heavy picks and loud amps. The fact, i need softer strings and pick, nad bedroom amp volume...

1. Marshall: I prefer the lower level sound, which had more highs and transients. The louder level sounded more compressed and round. 2. Orange. I preferred the louder level sounded full but still had the clarity over the lower level. 3. Recto. I prefer the cranked level more. The buzziness of the recto was smoothed out when cranked. Like others stated. I think it would be very informative to do this with a mic'd cab. The IR's might not be capturing the speaker/s in a state where they are being driven as in a situation with a cranked amp. Speakers (in my opinion) are a huge component in the overall sound. I love your demos and keep up the good work.

I like the Mesa on loud settings and Marshall/Orange on the quiet side

There is always a point where everything is alive then past that point you get more gain and then more compression and sometimes mush.

HAAAYYY FWEEEEENNNS My favorite YT channel.

So i have put compressors in the loop or right now an eq with the volume cut to get a good sound at lower volumes. I wonder if some crazy pedal guy has a pedal just to mimic cranked power tubes

Lower volume all day long, all 3 amps sounded killer though! Great stuff sir.