I assume its not a coincidence that the toymaker manifest and creates the giggle in 1925 and the maestro also manifests in 1925.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

i DID see a video showing they both came out in 1925, and I didn't even realize that! So whatever 14 did at the edge of the Universe gave an entrance to the Pantheon in 1925!

@Engiflux

Ай бұрын

It wasnt coincidence. The making of youtube video mentions it

I just came to say, that wonderful creature playing The Maestro is Jinkx Monsoon. Artist, singer, musician, actor, drag artist extraordinaire. After winnining Rupaul's Drag Race, she toured with her live show. Was on Chicago, Little Shop of Horrors, etc. Jinks really is an amazing talent.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Ya I had never heard of her, but was surprised at the fanbase she had! And this role was MADE for her! Its like I hate to see The Doctor scared, but damn every time Maestro was on screen she was just using every inch of her space to make that character more boisterous and intimidating...I can't wait to see more from her!

@MetalPharoah

Ай бұрын

​@DFQreacts She's also the ONLY contestant on Drag Race to win not only their original season but the All Winners season, first 2 time Drag Race winner

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

@@MetalPharoah oh damn, so she's like Queen of the Queens! lol

@MetalPharoah

Ай бұрын

@DFQreacts That's actually the title used for that All Winners season. It was the very first All Winners, and it was last year as well. Her OG season was Season 5 back in 2013. We are on Season 16 now.

@skinnyjax

Ай бұрын

@@MetalPharoah All Winners was such an amazing season. Jinkx devoured Snatch Game. Her Judy was probably the best of all seasons.

The one who waits was mentioned by the toymaker in the giggle. I enjoyed this one a lot, great reaction

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Did he? Why don't I remember that!? I might have some rewatching to do! lol (but thank you, shaun!)

@Creek932

Ай бұрын

​@@DFQreacts Yeah the toymaker said "There's only one player I didn't dare face: the one who waits. I saw it hiding and I ran."

The Song "There's always a Twist in the end" may be referring to an actor called Susan Twist. Who has appeared in 4 episodes, Wild Blue Yonder as Newton's Maid, The Church On Ruby Road as a heckler in the crowd at Ruby's show, Space Babies as one of the officers signing off and in The Devil's Chord as one of the tea ladies. certainly something to look for in upcoming episodes.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

I did not know she was the woman with Newton! I have a theory about her I'll talk about in the next episode...not next episode for you, next episode for me lol

The One who Waits... it's the whole Audience

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

haha FOR REAL! Especially how it was before Disney when the BBC was just like, well, they can just wait a full year between series! lol

Also Maestro said 'there's a song hidden' inside Ruby. Could she possibly mean a River Song.... or a Pond?' And continuing with the watery themes, we also have Mrs Flood.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

So might she be a descendant of Amy? ...and if Amy was the one who left Ruby... SOMEHOW, how would she have gotten there? interesting theory, geetee!

Hey Dusty! So glad to see you're continuing to react to Doctor Who! Love your reactions 😊😊

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Thanks, Kassidy! If theres new Who, I'll be there! hahaha see you in the next one!

Enjoyed your reaction. Really liked this episode too including Maestro and I'm intrigued by the connection to the Toymaker. Thought the song at the end was just a meta comment on the musical nature of the episode, the nature of the story being told, and possibly the importance of the characters being played by the actress Susan Twist who appears as a cafeteria worker in this one. Looking forward to your reaction to Boom!

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

And I BELIEVE Susan Twist was also in the new episode, 73 Yards...(think she was the woman at the bar)...so she KEEPS popping up! lol

"How does that note/tone banish them?" It's rumpelstiltzkin rules. A 'magical' creature can be summoned and unsummoned with magic words (or magic music in this case). Aka these celestials seem to be bound by a type of fairy tale logic

@LJLvids

Ай бұрын

Also when the Toymaket was defeated his essence stuck around a bit so the doctor could claim 'a prize' for winning (he used that to duplicate the tardis) so i think in this case this musical dance number at the end was the doctor's prize for winning in this encounter

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

haha that's true! And one my second...and third watch through it did make more sense, as much as any Doctor Who episode can! lol

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

That does fit, but I still think there's something larger that we're not seeing, possibly universally big. The Toymaker's essence was still 'in play' because a prize wasn't awarded, but there was nothing like that for The Maestro...plus the look the Doctor gave the TARDIS before going back into EMI...idk, I think we're in for a massive reveal coming up!

@CreepyNoodles69

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts Similar to the "state of play," the world might have just been in a "state of music" after The Maestro was banished, possibly causing the sporadic dance number.

He. He did the thing... (insert owl saying who) and current theory, the one who waits is related to the toymaker and harbinger. H.arbinger was the son of Maestro, grandkid of the toymaker, so if my theory is right then its a family theme for the season (or daddy issue theme.)

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

a Family of...Blood? Perhaps? lol nah, but that would be crazy!

@illanalevi6091

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts What a callback! with their desire to destroy the universe there may be blood

I don't know if it was mentioned but the actress who plays Mrs Flood is Brian May's wife and she's already started on going to conventions. Doctor Who is a thing of its own. Great reaction. Hannibal the series and Dead Boy Detectives are my favourites to watch at the moment

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

I did find that out when I looked her up after that episode and was SHOOK! lol And her going to cons leads me to believe she'll be popping up in a big way coming up!

@wereleopard58yepihavetwo2

Ай бұрын

Not necessarily as I l've met quite a few actors who have only been in a show once. Con goers are crazy like that. I did them for 19 years lol. I remember her back in Eastenders back in the 80s lol.

AliceReacts explained that there was a MYTH in the Middle Ages that musicians were forbidden by the Church from using a tritone or sharpened fifth (I think it actually is a diminished or flatted fifth) because of the dissonant, demonic tone it made, thought of as the Devil's interval. (That opening scene should have made that more clear). It's worth checking out his video. So this is yet another myth brought into reality. So I think Ruby is a mythological character like a Goddess or some fairy tale character. My theory is Susan Foreman is the One Who Waits.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Oh I LOVE his Doctor Who reactions! He's on my constant rotation once a new episode drops! lol I haven't seen that one yet as I try not to watch any reactions for a show I'm currently watching so I don't inadvertently take something from them, but once the season finishes up I'm gonna binge him and a few different other reactors! That's a very interesting theory, because she has been waiting a LONG time lol

Basically they are concepts and bound to their respective concept. the toymaker needs to be beaten in a game. Music needs to played 'the right way', etc.. It would be interesting to explore how they came into being, like who imposed those restrictions onto them. Not sure if this is official but I heard that the ending was meant to imply that some rest energy of the maestro is still remaining, like when the Dr. used rest energy from toymaker to split the Tardis after he was defeated. Either way it was poorly communicated in the episode and most people are confused by it I suppose.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Ya I can definitely see that, I would hope theres a bigger meaning to it- but it could just be that reward system or residual energy...and that could be the One Who Waits, perhaps? Haha, thats that basis for being a Doctor Who fan- wishing it was explained better, but just accepting what we get lol, its a hazard of the Fandom!

My first episode I watched was in Oct 2013. I watched all of NuWho until after the 50th movie came out. Matt Smith's regen was my first LIVE episode, and then it took until Feb 29 2014 to finish all of Classic

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Nice! My first live episode was I BELIEVE, The Bells of St John (7x1) but his regen was my first live regen as well and I was in tears!

@MetalPharoah

Ай бұрын

@DFQreacts I used VPN to watch it live on iplayer but it was funny to be my first new episode to watch lol. My favourite Doctor Who are 6 and 12.

@MetalPharoah

Ай бұрын

@DFQreacts Also, OUCH you had to wait in the middle of that S7 mid finale break

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

@@MetalPharoah 12 is mine! Not enough love for Capaldi!

@MetalPharoah

Ай бұрын

@DFQreacts Yeah, I actually liked him immediately, and that was unusual for me at the time. He's the epitome of what Doctor Who is. The 6th Doctor Who is the same to me, as the Capaldi take was ahead of its time back then but was misunderstood for a while. Colin Baker is actually a favourite for many fans these days with his 6th Doctor Who so in the end it is a shame the BBC Controller back then tried to sabotage him. He was signing on to do even more seasons than Tom Baker. The storyline was Doctor Who regenerates into this unhinged crazy uncaring Time Lord (due to 5th forcing a regeneration when he shouldn't have) that changed back to who he was right before regenerating. I imagine Sasha Master did the same thing as Missy and forced a regen as 5th died the same way.

The one you thought was Mrs. Flood is way more discussed than her after people noticed something.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

hmm...interesting. I make it a point to not follow any Doctor Who pages or anything so I don't get spoiled, so now I'm going to be thinking of that lady more lol

@f.carasind4188

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts I hopefully did it vague enough to only fuel your curiosity. This season already has so many things the fandom theorizes about with only three episodes in (the one you watched is officially episode 2).

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

@@f.carasind4188 you did, and I've been realing with theories so I can only imagine what the fanbase at large is thinking up! And I know it technically is, but I just go off what The Mouse tells me lol

I love love love that ending! 🎉 There are 3 twists at the end, and you could argue 4. Harbinger in 1963 survived from 1925; the base dance in the number was the Twist, the musical number itself which hasn't happened before. The other could be Susan Twist who keeps appearing in each episode....

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Russell The T going meta with it! I like it! like I told Raven above you, I've got a theory on her I'll bring up with episode 4!

I reckon that whole musical number was the “prize” for banishing Maestro. 14 and 15 got their prize for defeating the Toymaker in a game, and so the defeat of Maestro allowed for music to return and for a whole uplifting musical number to happen. The twist definitely must’ve been Harbinger’s appearance, and I reckon there’s some foreshadowing going on as well.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

That's an interesting thought! But I don't know if Maestro would give an award for beating them like the Toymaker...there's obvious rewards for games, but for music i don't know. Sure it was a 'Music Battle' but i still can't shake the feeling there's something bigger still at play, but damn that's a good thought!

This is episode 2, Disney+ got the numbering wrong, on iplayer in the UK it's episode 2

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Disney tends to mess everything up lol

@StephanieMaireFaith

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts yh cause chrismas specials are episode 0 so It 14x0 or 1x0 then spade babies 1x1 14x1 devil chords 1x2 14x2

Maestro asked whether the oldest one was at Rubys birth, im wondering whether that could be the doctor, he was found, noone knows where he came from. Plus he was there when Ruby was left at the church..

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

...you and I are thinking the same! lol I have a pretty big theory I'm gonna talk about in the next episode that i THINK might be what Russell T is planning!

@keith.morgan

Ай бұрын

@DFQreacts haha great minds think alike lol. I look forward to hearing your theories in the next episode

I think they are hammering in theres a twist at the end. I think the twist is the one who waits is Missy since the red nails picked up the Master tooth at the end of the Giggle and that Missy is the last regeneration of the Master and this is the start of Missy's story and then in 12 era is the end so Sacha regenerate from Simms and then Sacha to Missy. In the Giggle the Toymaker said that he messed with the Doctor's past so i think they are retconning the Timeless Child as the Doctor's history was changed by the Toymaker in canon and that is the reason they are breaking the 4th wall because it is retconning IN universe not just the writers.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Very interesting thought on the timeline of Missy, because people do tend to forget theres a lot of time the Master is alone doing...Master-y things. I do have another theory that I will be talking about in the next reaction, so I wonder what you'll think of that.

I wasn’t sure about the ending either, but I think this is a set up for something a lot bigger.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

EXACTLY! I think The Doctor is in a pocket universe- and I kind of don't trust Ruby...I think she'll end up being something...idk! lol

@vagonkhan7278

Ай бұрын

This is Russel T Davies. He’s never led us wrong. I have faith.

Ncuti and Millie are excellent together once again. I feel a little cheated that they’ve just skipped 6 months. I loved Jinkx as Maestro and this season's Gods of the Universe mystery box. My complaints come from the writing. It feels like we are getting sped through Doctor Who basics with heavy exposition that also feels a little too unrelated to the question being asked. And the song at the end was kind of cringey.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

I agree, they just play off each other so perfectly! They skipped 6 months? Did I miss that? Ya for sure, Jinkx wasn't anybody I knew before this show, but damn it I love them now! lol Ya that was RTD's weakness, but I'm still giving it leeway since its a soft reboot and there's new fans coming in who need that...I'm hoping Season 2 has better explanations, but even if it doesn't, its still Doctor Who! lol and ya, it was...oddly placed- but I think it might be a hint at a bigger 'thing' we're not seeing yet, and I think that its their in the Celestial's Universe or under their powers...WHO knows lol

@samfisher6606

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts Remember, the Doctor said, "Where are you, June 2024?" Space Babies takes place right after Christmas 2023.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

@@samfisher6606 ohhh...he did. Wow, that's a lot of time they've spent together, at least we got to see her first planet experience in BOOM! lol

@keith.morgan

Ай бұрын

It seems like this shouldn't be the 2nd episode, it's as though it was bought forward in the season for some reason. 6 months between episodes doesn't feel right.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

@@keith.morgan I wonder if there was some shuffling after filming...I don't know why, but that's an odd gap

You ask all the right questions. But then demand mediocrity. The Musical number at the end was there to emphasize that this was a Musical episode. Like the Musical Buffy episodes. Was done just because it could be done. This is the 3rd episode of the season. Having everything "explained" now would be self-defeating. Let the season play out. I loved your reaction though. Your energy came right through my screen. Thanks.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Its more of just me NEEDING the answers now more than demanding them haha I'm excited to see what plays out, but I think we might be in a pocket Universe where the rules of the real world are thin and easily broken...perhaps why we see the Snow, or theres a musical number in the real world...idk. I just love this New (new new new new new new new) Who! lol

It wasn't my favourite episode of thie series (I guess we should call it a 'season' now with DiSney funding) but I respected RTD doing something new. Didn't mind the final 'glee' number but Paul/John/Cilla looking/sounding so fake took me out of the plot a few times. Funnily enough they seemed much more believable in the 'Unleased' (Behind the Scenes) episode for this story.

@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

ok who was Cilla? I feel like I should know her, but I really can't place her. And ya, you'd think they could've done some prosthetics maybe for the Beatles, make them look more like themselves, but I guess all we get is a close voice and thats it lol Weird, I wonder what happened when they were on set to make them so different?

@geetee4459

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts Look for a mini-series from about 12 years back called "Cilla' showing how she came to fame from having the Beatles as near neighbours. The actress who played Cilla Back and sang her hit songs (Sheridan Smith) was also a Doctor Who companion back in the day (audio not TV). The guys who played the Beatles in that mini were much better than the ones in this story.

@geetee4459

Ай бұрын

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@geetee4459

Ай бұрын

Bad quality but... kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5l6rKV8ntWeerg.html

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@DFQreacts

Ай бұрын

Cool, more toxic Whovians! Crazy you guys hate watch a show. You'd think you'd have better things to do with your lives, but here you are.

@daffy8995

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts I don't think they hate-watch the show. I think they just troll around the Internet looking for places to vomit up their vitriol.

@rockfan3299

Ай бұрын

@@daffy8995 vomit is bang on, 30 seconds of this is enough!

@rockfan3299

Ай бұрын

@@DFQreacts not watched the Dr since Tennant, this is trash, stats will drive this in to the anals of the BBC basement.