Thank you Dr Azmain for your professional explanation of care for Archie. I felt for this Mother until she started saying horrible things about the hospital and the medical team. It will all come out soon. RIP Little boy

No evidence it was a social media challenge. Police found his phone in another room. A social media challenge would ways be filmed. He also attempted suicide a day or so before he was found. His school told his mother they were concerned about his mental health

@mandygriffin5241

Жыл бұрын

@@NoahTheGamer567 not if you read the evidence and don’t just listen to the mothers one sided story.

▶ Follow-up video on how doctors decided to turn off Archie's life support based on medical ethics - kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5Oel5izqNq4orQ.html

he says this, but its clear he knows the decision taken was the correct one. there's a real question as to whether or not this is actually news as this person clearly says this is not a unique case. i have heard that reading through the legal documents, tissue had already been necrotising. he was not able to absorb nutrients by himself and was being cared for in an undignified way due to his condition. i have also heard that a parent is known for being litigious already. respect for medical evidence is important and blowing this up in the media could be argued to be in a way disrespectful to the medical team and to the boy himself, when the evidence was clear. its just that not the whole evidence is being reported in the media. frequent litigation and denial can point to pre existing psychiatric disorders and the parent is known for other excessive behaviours almost accusing the medical team of "intentionally suffocating" the child? very disgusting i would say and disrespectful and unappreciative of any care provided to this person unfortunately, I do not believe this is news and the money generated from it is not clean money and the press coverage that Barts NHS Trust is getting is very unfounded.

Thank you for this unbiased information. I didn’t know a lot of the things you discussed.

Doctor Azmain; thank you for your giving clarity to us all; following Archie's case, broke my heart, taking me back to April 7th 2000. reminding me of the loss of my precious prince baby boy whom, lost his will to survive hence was placed on live support due to complications born 16 weeks premature. etc.. sadly 3 weeks form my baby boys birth , doctors removed our precious baby boy's tubes that in which my baby boy was making his lungs and heart pump . I new on the day my precious baby boy had crossed over way before his mum and dad ;would return back to the NICU , that after noon. once the medical experts explained to my wife and i, about our precious baby boy's condition, all though our precious baby boy survived the night, however your baby boy has brain damage , he will only survive a few days before his origins shut down. hence i can honestly say , on that dark day , i finally began to truly understand the phrase : cruel to be kind. after my wife explained to me if our baby boy survived etc.. the outcome, hence we had to make the hardest dissension in our lives ,and that was to take our precious baby boy of his life support tube . ( I knew our baby boy crossed over on our return and was ask by the doctors to place our hands inside his crib to touch our baby boy, my baby boy had a strong grip of my small finger and his grip was cold and really tight ; for was such a tiny baby boy, i new than i lost my baby boy,!!! his baby sister " TWINS " Premature . after 115 days, lived on for the both of them. in her crib at the NICU, was finally discharged from hospital to live with her mum and dad, age 22 now . has proved the medical experts and skeptics wrong in more ways than one !

A brilliant video, Doctor. I've had a lot of dealings with medical staff over the years. I love my country's NHS, and if it wasn't for them and all of the medical professionals, my family & I wouldn't have had the quality of life that we've had.

I wanna say something at respected way but Archie had to think first before he do idiot things and have he realise that it’s deadly but sorry but that’s his own problem you know but rip Archie

@flo4077

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t do anything he fell of the banister and broke his neck his mum told me

@RichardPierpoint-fc2wy

Жыл бұрын

@@flo4077 Also, if he had suffered a broken neck, he would have been certified dead before he went in the ambulance. Arsehole - just reminding you...

@margaretwilson1539

2 ай бұрын

I believe, according to some reports, Archie had said he was depressed..RIP Archie....🙏

She said on the itv this morning interview that she was sat in her bedroom while this happened yet knew nothing . Then when she found him she claimed that she left him still hanging over the banister! To seek help . Returned after 40 minutes and cut him loose and let him fall 8 feet (her own words) now who really killed him .

@Froggy731

Жыл бұрын

She did not say she left him hanging 40 minutes for seeking help

@sarai5467

Жыл бұрын

@@Froggy731 yes she did and then on this morning itv she still said she left him hanging to seek help , returned and cut him loose to fall 8 feet on her own calm words ! Are you telling me a mother cannot pull her son over a uk house banister ? Leaves him to find help then makes him drop ? She's a narc shes made the whole thing about herself and im sure she is the reason he is dead , her fake bunny story her fake leaving the crime scene (who leaves a child still hanging and leaves ?????) She refused him to get a ct scan in my opinion so there would be no evidence available after he dies. Now its been months with no scene or body evidence shes one of many mother killers , you can look them all up as they smirk smile and have these fake emotions she also has ! Her breathing, talking and eyes show no emotion and no care but dont forget her go fund me for blood money along with her media fame !

@flo4077

Жыл бұрын

No she didn’t I know the whole story she was at the shops and he was climbing the banister and he fell and slipped and broke his neck there is a part in the neck and if you break it it stops you breathing don’t lie about that

Sorry Dr. Azmain, but I've no respect for people who, with no medical knowledge, go against whole teams of experts. As you rightly said Archie was already dead months ago. The machine was simply keeping his corpse from rotting. When my mother had a massive stroke the doctor showed me an image of the vast amount of damage her brain had suffered. I didn't have the slightest hesitation in telling them not to put her on a ventilator, because even if she had regained consciousness I would have been condemning her to a fate far worse than death.

@jenny395791

Жыл бұрын

This is an amazing post, David. My mother went through a similar illness to your mother, & my family & I knew straight away that the best course of action for her was to withdraw life support. That was 4 years ago & I don't regret our decision at all. Unfortunately, there seem to be so many people out there who think they know better than the medics. It's shocking really. Thanks for sharing your story.

@Adriana-vp1rm

Жыл бұрын

@@jenny395791 Doctors don't know anything mostly. My mum safe specialists in Germany who couldn't help her. Then after she studied her case herself 4 2 years and told the doctor she thinks she has this or that, he agreed. My son has some breathing issues, and for the past year my doctor knows what it is. I saw atleast 5 doctors. Totally useless.

@jenny395791

Жыл бұрын

@@Adriana-vp1rm So are you saying you'd never seek medical attention from a medical doctor ever again then, since you think they are useless?

@ellee9590

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate what you dealth with, but I think dealing with the life and death of a child is somewhat different than that of a parent / adult, I'm not saying thier anger is acceptable I'm saying seeing a child who has had a very short life and being able to accept thier is no hope is one of the most traumatic situations a person can be in, people don't always think straight when dealing with the Loss of a child it's very unbearable for people

@Adriana-vp1rm

Жыл бұрын

@@jenny395791 I'm but lessn less. I'm cancelling my appointments tomorrow as I see no use. Doctors always say they "don't know"!. I will go alternative if needed. Or go back to old medical books. Doctors are ok if u break bones though.

It was not a black out challenge. He did the other. Whether people want to believe it or not.

@x.katie_c.x8453

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by he did the other ?

@jenny395791

Жыл бұрын

@@x.katie_c.x8453 He attempted suicide several times. His last attempt was successful. RIP Archie

@x.katie_c.x8453

Жыл бұрын

@@jenny395791 ohhhh thank you, RIP archie 🕊🕊

@oo0024

Жыл бұрын

She’s lucky TikTok hasn’t sued her lol they can easily pull up his history and find out exactly what he was watching before he died How come no video was found if he was doing a TikTok challenge 🤔

@jenny395791

Жыл бұрын

@@oo0024 A court hearing actually said he was attempting suicide. It was nothing to do with an online challenge.

There is no UK statutory definition of death; therefore, the judicial system has relied exclusively on the historical neurological criteria of death articulated more than four decades ago and reaffirmed in 2008. Moreover since 2008 neuroscience has disproved the fundamental assumptions underpinning the code of practice about the brainstem being the single mediator of both consciousness and integrative function in humans. (Association of Anaesthetists).

@DoctorAzmain

Жыл бұрын

The neuroscience behind what constitutes death is incredibly complex, and the argument made in the article you cite is testament to that. Will the definition of death be instated or changed in the future? Potentially. But perhaps until that point, we have to make decisions that we think are in the patient's best interests. I'd like to offer the example of CPR and do not attempt CPR (DNACPR) - let's say an elderly patient with multiple comorbidities has a cardiac arrest. Would you do CPR? They could very well be brought back to life, so isn't DNACPR tantamount to killing them? But the decision for DNACPR is made because, if they did indeed survive the brutal and violent procedure that CPR is, they would be in severe pain/distress/discomfort that would simply not be in the patient's best interests, and they may yet deteriorate and die while suffering the consequences of CPR. In those cases, doctors may decide to write up a DNACPR form. These are not easy decisions, these are not simple decisions - and no, doctors don't always get them right. It is absolutely okay to question these decisions and see if we could've done better. But someone has to make those decisions - this is the best we can do for now, with the evidence that we have, and we can only hope to improve upon that, for the sake of our patients and society.

@MarkUKInsects

Жыл бұрын

@@DoctorAzmain Exactly, But in the video, you mix brain-dead and brain stem dead. UK brain stem is deemed the good cause to turn off life support, in most jurisdictions it's brain-dead. Although in the minority, I think the UK is correct.

@DoctorAzmain

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkUKInsects yes I appreciate this response. You're absolutely right that there's an important distinction between "brain death" and "brainstem death". Unfortunately it's quite difficult to go into that depth of medicine/neuroscience/neurology in a 2min video designed to allow a person not acquainted with these terms to understand the basics of the situation. On the NHS website for patient and public information, it states: "Brain death (also known as brain stem death) is when a person on an artificial life support machine no longer has any brain functions. This means they will not regain consciousness or be able to breathe without support." I have chosen to maintain this narrative in order to be consistent with NHS messaging. In other words, this is far too nuanced a discussion for a 2min brief on a very complex situation. Thank you for bringing this up though!

My heartfelt Blessings , Love and Healing goes out Archie's ,Mum and Family ,coping with the reality loss of her son, no words of comfort could ever heal a broken heart and a mum's sorrow , and grief . by this tragic ordeal bought upon by TICKTOCK ; social media ; would NOW raise the awareness of the dangers with crap on social media. aimed at our children . My baby boy TYLER BLAKE has a big brother ARCHIE in HEAVEN " ANGELS " !!!! Dr Azmain, you are an ANGEL Thank you for such an educated and informative footage you kindly posted . much appreciated !!!💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💖💖 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

I dont think you are a doctor because you would know he was not in a coma

@flo4077

Жыл бұрын

Yes he was

Ban tik tok that's all I can say. RIP Archie your a beautiful angel now sorry you went through what happened to you on the challenge tik tok should be banned permanently tik tok has no right putting shitty challenges on there when they all now kids get there hands on it easily I don't let my children near it but my son is 6 and he seen the sign at the supermarket and told me mommy look its tik tok and I said yes but that is no good and not for kids 👹 so if u want your kids to live long then learn them dangers on social media I have been telling my son about it since archie was in a coma its heart breaking for archie and his family but a 12 year old shouldn't even have social media stuff they are kids

@flo4077

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t social media his mum told me what happened

@sophiemukhlis9508

Жыл бұрын

@@flo4077 what is it then if it's not tik tok?

@RichardPierpoint-fc2wy

Жыл бұрын

@@sophiemukhlis9508 He. Killed. Himself - I mean, this WASN'T HIS FIRST ATTEMPT. Just saying...

I can't understand why so many comments here are saying it was not a tiktok challenge and how certain people that state it was, are going to be sued by tiktok. First let me say that even if in Archie's case , his death was not due to a tiktok challenge many other kids are doing the ligature chocking challenge on tiktok and dying from it. Archie's mum is going through much suffering and i doubt she will ever stop grieving for her lil boy. So for those of you being so fixated on this tiktok challenge detail i ask you all to look past that detail. The young boy has died and his family are trying desperately to come to terms with it. Grief and trauma can cause people to be in denial because of the severity of the horrific event. Doctor Azmain said that Archie may have participated in the tiktok challenge but he was not definate about it. Noone knows if perhaps he had watched the video on a friend's phone or just heard about it at school or from other kids somewhere else. Nothing can bring this young boy back and that is the tragedy. I do know that a young boy would have had to find out for himself how to choke himself...he was not born knowing that. In my personal opinion he would have had to learn how to makeca ligature that would do the job and i imagine at his age the internet would be his go to resource for that knowledge.

He was young. Why UK didn't release the child to Japan? Why?

@MarkUKInsects

Жыл бұрын

Because, being brain stem dead and 100% reliant on intensive care. Just moving him from one ward to another, would be a giant risk. He would survive a local journey, let alone lengthy air travel.

@mandygriffin5241

Жыл бұрын

Because even turning him in bed caused his blood pressure to plummet. He was dead, with machines just keeping his systems functioning while the legal case went through.

@Adriana-vp1rm

Жыл бұрын

@@mandygriffin5241 Not true.

@mandygriffin5241

Жыл бұрын

@@Adriana-vp1rm read the appeal transcript

@Adriana-vp1rm

Жыл бұрын

@@mandygriffin5241 They were giving him bath. So why moving him in bed to another location would be dangerous? Criminals are running this world!!!

First of all why turn it off. They have no right to end his life. His life support should've been till kept on.

@EclecticallyEccentric

Ай бұрын

His life was already over. His brain, including the brain-stem, were dead. No consciousnesses at all.

Wow, is it that difficult to explain exactly what he did ?