I fought to have my Sundays off for religious liberty. My company granted it. I was shocked that they granted it. It can be done.

In Matthew Kelly’s book, Resisting Happiness, he told the story of how his brother’s all complained about going to church every week. “Their Dad said they didn’t have to go to church, but if they could tell him one thing they planned on doing in the hour that the family was at church, that was more important than thanking God for another day of life, they didn’t have to go. Then he finished up with saying, while you think about an answer, go get ready for church.” This had our bible study group laughing so hard and we used it on our kids.

Watching this show helped me go back to church after 20 years. I'm in a major depression so it's a challenge to do anything. Thank you sooo much.

@Elizabeth-iw3wd

Жыл бұрын

I have bouts of depression too Donna. Having my faith and being in my Church helps support me. I am in the Choir too, which is so beneficial . Please enquire if there is anything you can join within your Parish. Sending you a big hug.... from Scotland, UK 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@donnaburtwell2004

Жыл бұрын

@@Elizabeth-iw3wd Thank you

@nikigirgus4301

Жыл бұрын

Ask to be anointed for that of you haven’t already. It is considered a chronic condition worthy of receiving anointing of the sick.

@suzannelove5147

Жыл бұрын

I empathize with your sense of depression). You may want to take a deep dive into the history of Catholicism YT has some really good videos. Then start asking yourself questions. The journey toward Jesus will be so fulfilling. GOD Bless you.

@suzannelove5147

Жыл бұрын

@@Elizabeth-iw3wd What an uplifting note. Choir is not an option for me (or the people around me) My voice is nothing but an offensive pitch & roll. But I do appreciate Gregorian chants. Stay Blessed.

I used to visit my mom's country, Mexico, the whole summer when I was a teen. Realized that on Sunday, EVERY STORE was closed. Coming from California, I could just about go anywhere after mass. So I had to either get things done on Saturday or wait until Monday -therefore, there was no such thing as "after mass donuts" in Mexico. Which hits different if you have donuts any other day if the week 😑. BUT on Sunday, every teen, parents, elderly and all the ages inbetween, gather in the front of the church just to socialize, but I love how it's in front of the church because it feels like we're inviting Jesus, Mary, and all the saints to our gathering. The elderly sit in benches to catch up with neighbors and friends, the small children play bored games, marbles and hop skotch/jump rope, and teens walk around the huge water fountain with their groups of friends (like ants walk around in a big group, the best I can describe it lol) But it's a simply living but also know how to DO the Sunday rest, the right way.

@ulysses_grant

Жыл бұрын

It took me a while to understand that working professionally (ie, for money) on Sundays is a sin against the third commandment. As soon as I came to know that I went to confession and never did that again. It is sad that, given the times we live in, many people think it is an exaggeration to consider working on Sunday a mortal sin. But on the final day, they will wish they never worked on a Sunday. Ever.

@kathyclunk5403

Жыл бұрын

We used to have all stores closed on Sundays by law, but with various faiths that don't go to church every Sunday, businesses could make more money being open on Sundays so they changed the law.

@boem3021

Жыл бұрын

I'm a nurse. Our hospice schedule requires us to work every other Sunday😢. Due to the fact, that it's never a given where I'll end up, I'm doing a lot of "church tourism" attending Mass in different towns. Now I know where the Mass would be packed with young families, where the priest has the tendency to lull me into sleep ( I work nights, so staying up sometimes is a challenge!), and where pews are almost empty. You know what's interesting? Churches with a Tabernaculum at the main altar are the best! Filled with young families, Mass is celebrated with a reverence, not much of noisy band music nor choir giving a performance with their backs to Tabernaculum. I've also found two places with Latin Mass. I love it! Still, I would prefer not to work on Sundays.

It should be our joy to go to mass. JESUS is there waiting for us! People camp out for concert tickets or a big sale. How can we not want to receive Him.

Yes, Father Pagano! You’ve nailed it. When dad attends the Mass, he plays his import role as a good model of “father figure”. Greetings from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Fr. Lima ( Archdiocese of Rio de Janeiro)

@doodsvelasco9877

Жыл бұрын

Kk

I remember being in high school and going to a full weekend soccer tournament. A few players went to church together, we had the coach coordinated with the leaders of tournament to make sure we would have a time to go to mass. I can’t remember that tournament at all but I can still remember what the church looked like and the fellowship we had on the way there and back.

Coming into the Church with a 14 year old son whom I didn't raise in any church, my daily prayer is that God keep the desire my son has for Him, to sustain it, and to grow it. I know how important a strong father figure is and my son does not have that.

@Dostoevskys_Quill

Жыл бұрын

My family will add your son to the daily rosary, may I ask his Christian name✝️🕊🙏🏼

@dianekeilman

Жыл бұрын

I will also pray for you. It was my father that took me to church every week. Thank God I had the foundation. Stay strong. Take your son to mass, or try books that might peak his interest. The life of the saints can be very compelling and something to look up to. Have him pick out a saint that he can relate to. I will be praying for you and your son. You are a good Mama Bear!

@gardenia77

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your prayers. I have been taking my son to mass since November. I am in a pre-RCIA class that meets until we start "real" RCIA at the typical time and my son is in one on one faith formation. I have also enrolled him in a Catholic high school to start next year where he will attend mass daily and all of his teachers will be Catholic.

@gardenia77

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your prayers. His name is Liam.

@gardenia77

Жыл бұрын

Could you recommend some books? I have gotten him the Great Adventure Bible, but I would also like to get him something geared toward teen boys that would be enticing.

My former spouse was not a good role model or spiritual leader. I took all four of our children every Sunday, alone, for as long as I could. I taught them the faith, I took them for religious instruction and I got two degrees in theology. I'm well-formed so that I can answer their questions. Today, only one attends and infrequently. It is such a suffering and disappointment. I go every Sunday and I pray for them and I practice faith in the Holy Spirit who will continue, complete and perfect the work in them.

@MsLovieGirl

Жыл бұрын

Praying for your family.

@CIST3

Жыл бұрын

@@MsLovieGirl Thank you.

Not attending Mass on a Sunday without a good reason is a mortal sin!

@RahzeeAlibaba

Жыл бұрын

What about Saturday?

@jamiehicks2752

Жыл бұрын

Saturday vigil counts towards the Sunday requirement.

@marlusands4554

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiehicks2752 Saturday vigil Mass would suffice for Sunday Mass for both are Holy days of Obligation.

@sk3tch982

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if this is true.

@marlusands4554

Жыл бұрын

@@sk3tch982 it is true! by not attending Mass on Sundays without a good reason is telling Jesus Christ, I have no time for you today I rather stay home or do something else of see something on TV, doing so is a mortal sin.

The Mass overwhelms me every time I’m there. I want to jump up and down and cry all at the same time. I don’t…but I want to😉

I would go to mass everyday if I could. My work prevents me from being able to do it.😢

@ulysses_grant

Жыл бұрын

Check for masses around your work. You're going to be surprised.

@lois2997

Жыл бұрын

No transportation here. I go if I can get an Uber

This podcast is the only reason I look forward to Monday. I hope everyone had a blessed Easter 🙏🏼

@GodLovesYou5635

Жыл бұрын

happy Easter Tuesday! Every day is a miracle

Divine Mercy is this Sunday, this needs to be spoken about✝️

It has been a long time since I have struggled to get out of bed on a Sunday morning. Thanks to God’s wonderful grace, I can’t imagine a Sunday without Mass.

Being away from Mass for nearly 2 years during the pandemic made me realize even more how much I need it in my life. God is so good. I can't imagine my week without Mass.

@boem3021

Жыл бұрын

What did you miss the most? To me, it was a very staggering realization that I've missed receiving Eucharist and confession. That felt like true chastisement.

@dansedevie123

Жыл бұрын

@@boem3021 Yes the sacraments! And made me think of those who could not receive sacraments at all due to remote location or persecution

A week contains 186 hours and God asks us for one hour or less. We have so much to be thankful for.

Jesus laid his life for me, I can spend one hour a week , 52 hours a year, is the least , among other things, what I can do just to show my love , faith , and joy to my father, God , Lord Jesus Christ amen 🙏

The priest in my parish brings up in his homily frequently that we have an obligation to attend Mass every Sunday, and that it is a mortal sin to miss Mass. I'm lucky to have a good priest; he doesn't pull punches.

Great topic, especially for all of the Catholics who just came into the Church! Here's a tip: Get the free calendar every Advent at your Church. READ the key! Right there you'll learn which days are an Obligation. Sundays are always typed in all caps.

Thank you all so much for this show! I have been learning so much. I became Catholic in 2014 from the Mormon church. I pray the rosary a lot and it literally saved my life! Thanks for have St Joan of Arc there. She is who I chose to be my patron Saint.

I am going to Mass praying the Liturgy of the Hour everyday and is way of my life now it is not the same if I do not receive the Jesus in the Holy Eucharist the day is not complete. When we do not have mass I go to other church to fulfill that day to second “spiritual home”. I am excited for next Monday’s pilgrimage- finally I can meet you all in person even just shake your hands get a blessing from Fr Rich. Alleluia 🛐

Keeping the day holy is what I do by prayer the gospel reading no shopping and only necessity cleaning some people can not attend

I’ll forward this to my Catholics friends who are lukewarm who find excuses not to attend Sunday mass, saying “ God knows what is in my heart”.

@luciagarza1736

Жыл бұрын

Disobedience?

@my4angelsSweden

Жыл бұрын

@@luciagarza1736 yes it is :(

@katdunn7934

Жыл бұрын

I shudder when I hear that phrase, as if nothing they do or don't do, is of no consequence. Then they go on with Jesus died for our sins, so let's continue with them because he's already saved us. It's so tragic!

@nikigirgus4301

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. He knows what’s in your heart and since the Mass is a taste of Heaven, you’re telling Him that Heaven is not in your heart. This saying is common but not thoughtful at all.

We currently have 4 lay decons in our church (pekin, il), but only one priest, our pastor, who celebrates mass every week day and has 3 three masses on the weekend. He is a great person and great priest. We have no reason for missing mass on sunday

You reminded me of something when you talked about getting to Mass if you're traveling. We would head down to the shore for vacation when I was a kid, usually on a Sunday. About an hour into the trip we'd stop at this small church and go to Mass. Don't know how my parents figured out the timing but they were great role models.

A priest only visits my area twice a month. The other Sundays it is a 4 hour round trip and frankly, I can't afford the gas. I pray at home and observe a day of rest but it's also stressful to think I'm in a state of mortal sin over this difficulty.

Going to Sunday Mass is a good thing, intrinsically - It adds so much to your life - so true!!

This is what many cradle Catholics do not understand, they do not see how the need to go to Mass every Sunday! Your souls need it! Once you commit to going every Sunday it becomes easy, doesn't feel like an obligation anymore!

I go to mass everyday to thank God for everything !

I love learning about my faith and getting a good laugh at the same time! You guys are great!

Im a simple person: I hear "Welcome to another episode of The catholic talkshow" and I click the like. U never disappoint: just 1:30 min in I already burst out laughing with Fr. Richard ´s affirmation prayer parody.

Love this show!!

I love 7:00 a.m. Mass. It is quiet and reverent. I actually have a clear head early in the morning which helps me receive better than in any other time. I also have the whole day free with the joy of the Lord more present than any other day. I also have this feeling for more hours than if I go in the middle of the day. People should not be made to feel guilty for the time or Day of the weekend at which they go to Mass. Also, alluding to Mass not counting unless you go for the absolute right reason is beyond a reach.

My church had a TWR weekday mass from 4:45-5:15 PM. It was discontinued. It was a good way for those that work first shift to get to mass.

When I travel I always find a Catholic Church that is near by. It’s is always amazing to see the beauty of the community.

Father, you are absolutely right. I am so blessed to celebrate early Sunday mass to take the most Holy Eucharist to the nursing homes and a home bound beloved.

this show I found during lent. I'm to the point in my life missing mass would break my Heart on December 26 a Sunday of 2022 I ride my Harley to church. I parked in front of the church put the kick stand down , when i started to get off the Harley when it decided to fall the spring on the kick stand came off some time before .Well it landed on my left leg broke my left leg ankle foot and 3 toes. I saw a man coming toward me i asked if he was going to church , he said yes. I explained the bike had landed on my leg and I couldn't stand on my foot. I then asked would you mind helping me into church so i can attend mass. He said I'm a paramedic if you cant stand on that foot you need to call a ambulance. I was like oh ok i guess. I went to the hospital a week or two later I came to mass in a splint. i eventually was able to ride my scooter to church . my point is it didn't bother me being in pain because I could only Imagen the pain Jesus endured and my leg could wait. Thank you for this show it has changed my life

Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby are both closed on Sunday!!!

Great show. I have tried to be a daily communicant doesn’t always go as planned. I work weekends at Southern Arizona VA Health Care a system where 90% of the staff and Veterans are Catholic. No Catholic priest going on two years but, 5 Protestant chaplains.. So I’ve been going to 4pm Saturday mass with a retired and semi senile priest, I sometimes have a hard time but, I feel bad for him so I keep going back.. The main church I go to is St Augustine’s Cathedral the two very young priest are great I really admire their love for the gospel. Extremely gospel centered..

When my kids were in sports, I used the mass finder app and we would find a church near where the tournaments were and went to mass in between games and the coach knew we would not compromise missing mass for soccer or baseball or swimming

I do research local catholic masses, like when I visit family that doesn’t practice the catholic faith, I i attend whenever possible. I continue my daily faithful practices and attend mass on line. BTW, I attend daily mass when possible

Thank you for your ongoing sessions that helps us understand our Faith more. Nurturing us spiritually through Mass cannot be compared to praying at home. It’s in the celebration in communion with God’s family that we become one. As a parent, when my family gathers around my table makes me happy and I’m sure going to mass makes God happy.

WOW Father, great explanation! You 3 knocking it out of the park again tonight! Thank you.

Thank you for this topic! It's very much needed. I hope lots of people see and listen to this episode.

I’m so glad my parents cleared this up for me I’m now working on going to holy days of obligation (hard to attend cuz I work and I don’t drive poor mum an dad have to take me)

I know people who go to church every Sunday without fail. Act holy on Sunday. Then Monday to Saturday they can be the meanest people you could ever meet. Looks like the holy spirit is not touching their hearts by going every Sunday. And I know people who don't go regularly or at all to mass and they are the most beautiful, kind people you would love to have as your family or friend.

@luciagarza1736

Жыл бұрын

This an excuse I’ve heard all my life. This is not the Standard.

@lynnsteed9979

Жыл бұрын

So true..

Waiting for it 🎉

I recently found and subscribed to your channel. I enjoy and learned at onetime . You have created the best recipe.

I was surprised that the HALLOW App was free to download, but once you download it has a cost. Very disappointing.

Why was it okay for us to be made to stay home and watch Mass on FB during COVID, I think that did more damage than good!😢

@nikigirgus4301

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, that was by design but not God’s design.

@monicahebert8174

Жыл бұрын

Great question : Sunday is an o ligation until there’s a pandemic There’s a holy day of obligation unless you live in a certain diocese So many of my beloved family no longer attend Mass because our bishops have basically told them - well if you’re old, it’s not obligated- or many young adults have very clearly noticed that if it was optional in march of 2020 - it’s always optional.

@jim-baron

Жыл бұрын

The Church gave a dispensation then. It ended a while ago.

Hope you follow-up this show with a discussion on the Holy Days of “Convenience” (previously known as the Holy Days of Obligation).

Thank you so much for this week's topic, Do you have to attend Mass EVERY Sunday? Some really important things are explained about the importance of attending. This definitely should be shown to all who need a refresher course in Sunday worship!!!

Love the message, thanks. ❤

I enjoy Mass...

Leaving before mass is over. My father called them the Dine and Dash crowd.

@lynnsteed9979

Жыл бұрын

Normally after taking Holy Communion..

My friend decided to check out the Catholic faith. Not the Roman Catholic, but the Orthodox Catholic. He was revered Independence Baptist. He is struggling with understanding the relationship we have with Mary and things that aren’t in scriptures or scriptures based. Some things I can help him with based on my Roman Catholic upbringing (cradle Catholic), but things I can’t, for example their extreme fasting practices during Lent and other times of the year where they don’t eat for 75 hours, don’t eat fish, meat, poultry, dairy, oil, wine, eggs, etc. Meat and poultry I can explain to him, but other Orthodox practices I can’t. I just keep praying for him and light candles for him. How can I help him understand the teachings of the Faith? And could you please keep him in your prayers.

Great podcast 😊

I'm in an area where English is not used much. I have a 5 hr ride to the nearest church where English is used for the singing of hymns (which I truly love) the prayers & the sermons. English... I know u will say that the Pope has suggested v use Latin in Church.. But for me - I need to b fully involved. So even though I have a Catholic Church just 5 buildings away from my home, I go to a tiny church that is (always closed because our priests r 'too busy'!!) approximately 10 km away and an expensive ride away! I go and pray outside the (closed) church.

I would say that if you don't WANT to go to mass on Sunday, examine the why. Something is not right.

If you love the Eucharist, why would you want to be anywhere else?

@treeannie8831

Жыл бұрын

Right?! And PLEASE do not accept our Lord’s own Body and Blood from who is referred to as an “Extraordinary (Eucharistic) Minister! Only the clergy (and deacons) have annointed hands from which they can place the Host on your tongue, whilst we are preferably but not always possibly kneeling! I beg of you dear people to not disrespect our Lord in this way! Yes, I realize the pope does it. Need I say more, really?

@kevinkane9446

Жыл бұрын

@@treeannie8831 Do you have any scripture to support that nonesense?

My son is kind enough to.get me to Mass as often as possible

Depends on where you live my friends. My parish is a ways from me and I generally go on a Friday, but lately with the price of gas I have to cut down how often I attend. Just do it on line works for me.

1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

I always get to sat vigil mass at least an hour early if I need confession plus group of us pray the rosary before mass every sat

Thank you ❤you 'Re inspiring

God bless you guys love ya

I have to work a weekend shift so I go to mass on Wednesday

I realize I’m watching a month old show however I had to comment. The 4pm Saturday Vigil mass is called the Fisherman’s mass. This was because the New Orleans area well I guess most of South Louisiana have many that make a living on the water. Loving your show👍🏻

you will soooo be happy and less depressed.... be prepared because the evil one -- who is used to you NOT GOING to Mass -- will NOT be happy you are suddenly returning to Mass. The evil one will do anything to stop you - be prepared. put on your armor of Christ. Say your prayers daily as they will PAVE your way to Mass without any distraction, obstruction and confusion. So happy for you. God Bless You!!! PS-just like any other human you might feel inspired and pumped up the first few days for daily prayer but then when mass draws near or anything else where you are meeting God, you might feel a pull to withdraw and "chicken out". --Don't chicken out--. Keep up your prayer and be strong in your faith. Enter the miracle! So happy for you! AND ME TOO! let's all stay strong in God's will and not our own!

Attending a Catholic Mass is like being invited to The Last Supper with Jesus and His apostles. During The Consecration, God opens Heaven and gives Himself to us. Receiving Holy Communion is the most beautiful, powerful and intimate union we can have with God on earth. The only place on earth The Transubstantiation occurs is in a Catholic Mass. Receiving Holy Communion nourishes and strengthens us. Jesus said unless we eat of His Body and drink His Blood In Holy Communion, we will have no life in us. We would never enter Heaven. Jn 6:51-59

@MsLovieGirl

Жыл бұрын

What a beautiful explanation!

Can you share your vocation Fr Rich?! I remember you would kinda talk about it at Ave but it was a minute ago! Many thanks!

Imagine you fall in love with someone. Now, imagine that this very same person start seeing you only at Sundays, for one hour only, and more than that, she starts getting impatient and checking the clock to see how long is going to take for this one hour to be over. Does this person loves you?

@Dostoevskys_Quill

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully articulated ✝️🕊

@ulysses_grant

Жыл бұрын

*love. Sorry for my english.

@MaxRamos8

Жыл бұрын

Hard to imagine when anyone you have fallen in love with has rejected you

My wife threatens me with divorce after I return home after going to mass on Sundays. I should be jumping for joy, and filled joy by this reaction but its difficult when a family is split. I have given up any attempt to convert my family . But I have tried to show love by my prayer life -praying the rosary ( thanks to my parish priest, Fr Stephen Woolley at St Joseph's RCChurch, Sale, Manchester , UK for recommending praying a rosary when driving the car) and trying to be practical even though I am utterly useless at DIY.

Hi Guys I love the show (I'm sure you get that a lot) 😅. It teaches us a lot about our faith and thus provides simplified explanations to very complex spiritual matters. I have watched numerous episodes and never took the time to type out a message of appreciation for the great work you guys do. The fact that you reach out to someone like me who lives in Botswana speaks volumes of your international footprint. It probably speaks more about the beauty of the internet but that's a story for another day. Okay enough compliments before Fr Rich starts crying 🤣Where can I find the show notes from the various episodes? I would like to check out some of the authors you refer to & scripture as well. I looked through your website & I couldn't find them maybe my computer skills are lacking 😂

Can I order those bubble heads of yours? I have many altars in my home. I want to add one more with ur bubble heads. Young relatives would love it.

Good night everyone, I’m falling asleep, too late for me.

Good to see Jeremy Corbell gave up on aliens and became a priest. Also, I just entered the church on the Easter Vigil. Thanks for all the encouragement and knowledge I found on this channel.

I go to mass monday Wednesday Friday Saturday evening. Sat vigil fulfills Sunday obligations bc I work on Sunday

I missed two weeks of mass because I had Covid. I couldn't wait until I went to confession so I could receive the Eucharist again. Some people said God knows you were sick, why go to confession? I tried to explain to them to not attend is a sin, and you need it forgiven.

I missed them all

I belong to St John Vianney's Parish in Victoria Australia ❤

If God didn't need us, as I think He does, weekly Mass and worship would not be required of us. But, we all need God more as a spiritual exercise as Fr. Rich points out. What is due to God is our love, gratitude and devotion as He commands it. God decides what His form of worship is to be. He did in the OT and He does in the NT. Separating yourself from the celebration of the Eucharist is detaching from God.

Amen!!

you are right

It's very true not attending mass mortal sin. It's not just missing Mass on Sunday it's more than that if someone says I hate the church hate Mother Mary mortal sin

I'm am blessed when i attend the mass. every sunday

I go to Mass every Sunday. I sometimes miss Holy Days of Obligation, because of doctor appointments and evening Mass. I can't drive at night.

@johna1607

Жыл бұрын

Both would be legitimate excuses. God doesn't want you to have a car crash getting to Mass.

I got on Saturday

Its like everything else. Kinda like it’s st Patrick’s day. You can have meat on Friday. Thanks but no thanks. Jesus is king we can wait till Saturday to have some corn beef and cabbage. People forget what’s most important not baseball games or cheerleading.

Heb10:25 It says we must go. To the Sabbath That means Sunday. I'm in of take holy communion. 1 hour on Sundays. It's not too much going to a movie. It's More. an hour. Also who's supposed to go to Mass. Holy days. Easter Sunday. Ash Wednesday. When Mary went to heaven, that's a whole day, August 15. Go to confession so you can take holy communion.

If we have time we need to go everyday for our soul like we need food for our body.

Eta Missa!!

❤️

From my experience going to church most priests don't go into the why, don't explain things to the people but rather just regurgitate generic talking points or can't wait for the mass to be over. Some just accept things like going to mass because that's what they were told to do as kids never really learning why. People are hungry for knowledge and want the closeness to God but if the clergy aren't guiding them then TV or internet will guide them.

What about weather and the roads? How do you decide how bad the roads are to go? I always find myself feeling guilty for not going even if the roads are bad. I figured the roads may not be bad enough not to go.

The sad thing is that on Palm Sunday the priest had to announce that they would be using the community hall on Easter to handle the overflow crowd. Even sadder is the fact that they didn't need it.

Good, I attend mass on sarurdays and i was starting to get nervious. I thought fr. Pagano wil give a HELL 😅😅😅. Love you guys❤

Sandy Koufax wouldn’t pitch on Yom Kippur and he’s in the hall of fame and is regarded as one of the best players of all time

I haven't found a church home where I now live and it made my heart sad to drive by so many churches (Catholic and Protestant) on Easter Sunday with empty parking lots. Seems like everyone gathered for an hour in the morning and then moved on from celebrating Our Lord's resurrection. Surely celebrating our Savior is a joy, not an obligation. Perhaps I am being judgmental because I long and am jealous of the fellowship of the saints. Perhaps they were spending time celebrating with their families - and Christ would love that - so perhaps that is even better.

@user-pq8ou2un6q

4 ай бұрын

Saya tidak perlu gereja, cukup rajin berdoa, karna saya percaya Jesus tetapi saya tidak punya agama, artinya belom ada agama yang saya percaya benar mengajarkan kebenaran, kembali kepada diri saya sendiri.😊😅