I really appreciate your discussion on uses of fenders, especially in dry climates. I believe night riding might add an advantage for visibility. Chrome fenders reflect and adds space to mount a red rear light or reflector.

Hi Henry, your point number 5, that fenders protect other riders from spray, is very important. I used to ride with the Toronto Randonneurs and would often find myself in a small group. If someone is riding in front of you in the rain without fenders, it's impossible to follow them. On our official Brevets, fenders were mandatory. Best wishes, John in the Peak District.

OMG! I have a 1984 Specialized Expedition that is set up almost like yours. Front and rear racks with hammered aluminum fenders. I have the same water bottles as well. Sweet ride!

The point about the full fenders adding to the lifespan of your drivetrain is tremendous. Great video Jeremy. I like the narration, but your latest style with the vlogging is even better. Cheers.

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Ride Alongside thank you! I appreciate your feedback and I agree the voiceover is not the style I plan to use all the time. It has advantages, but it’s not as interesting or personal as standing in front of the camera and speaking on location.

Interesting points. I've been using fenders full time on my bicycle for about a year now, pedalling on the light rain is a lot different. Normally people get concerned about fenders on aerodynamics and added weight

I love how the dog is keeping up!

Hey Henry! It's raining today and I'm installing fenders on my fixed gear 'cross bike. I watched your install video this morning. Thanks! Out of 8 bikes, this is the one I ride almost 50% of the time. It gets ridden in lots of dirt all year as well. It will be interesting to see how my whole bike stays cleaner. Keep up the great work! Your love of cycling really shines through. Thanks again!!

@Henrywildeberry

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope the installation goes smoothly. Leather washers, loc tight, and dimpling the at the chain stays can really help keep them from rattling. Good luck!

@rollinrat4850

3 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry What do you mean by dimpling? My fender fits just about perfect between the chainstays. I barely had to reform it. Also, do the leather washers go just where the fender itself touches the frame? On mine there are also 2 leather washers where the stay hoop attaches to the fender. Thanks again man!!

@Henrywildeberry

3 жыл бұрын

@@rollinrat4850 If everything fits without inference you should be good to go. The dimples are sometimes needed if the fender is wider than the spacing between the chain stay bridge, or the fork blades. I place the leather washers between the fender and the frame. Eventually, they will crush slightly and the screws will need to be retightened. You may need to check all the fasteners after a few rides, because even the fender stay bolts may loosen. If the fender is very close to any part of the frame it may rattle. In that case some foam tape can be a good cure. Best of luck!

@rollinrat4850

3 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry I got some new fenders but the rear had a large dent in it. They were given to me and still look decent and workable. , not sure what brand. I pieced together all the hardware. I'm trying to straighten it out and my perfectionist disease has gotten the best of me. They are mounted and solid, but I know I can get them 'truer' and more even except for some scratches. My tires are 35mm and knobby, how do fenders cope with a bit of mud? I'm talking about enough to fill the tread. Ive used tall moto style fenders on MTBs, and big pieces of plastic zip tied to the frame, but never full fenders before.

Enjoyed your video AND your music. :-)

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Marvin McKenzie thank you! It’s the benefit of letting the music industry get the monetization;)

You make a good case for fenders. 👍🏼 Curious, what brand/size are your insulated water bottles? Thanks!

@Henrywildeberry

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The stainless steel water bottles are by Klean Kanteen I picked up at my local REI.

Amen.

Well said about dust! Most of our FS roads are very dusty and my (properly and adequately) fendered bikes stay MUCH cleaner. Oh, and fenders are actually more aerodynamic! ;)

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks David! The aero advantage is another good reason to have full fenders, and for anyone else out there reading this, we're talking about full fenders, not those plastic clip-on afterthoughts. Of course they add a few extra grams, but it's worth it for 99% of all riding. I prefer the Honjo aluminum fenders, but Gilles Berthoud and Velo Orange also make nice metal fenders too.

Hello Henry What front rack was that? Anything special to fix it on brake posts?

In case I missed it, the best reason for fenders is how cool they look. I never considered the benefits of fenders in dry conditions. It makes sense.

@Henrywildeberry

3 жыл бұрын

Desert Mantis thanks, I think they look pretty cool too!

Question: Don't fenders increase the effect of wind, by adding a scooping surface, like a sail? Maybe not, but it seems as if it would. Thanks.

@Henrywildeberry

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what the aero effect is with fenders. I've heard from a few sources they provide a fairing which helps reduce drag, and then I have heard the opposite. It would be very interesting to see published wind tunnel tests, but the bike industry likes to be very secretive with actual experimental data.

@edcatt9196

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I've been on the fence about installing full fenders. Is the possibility of having sticks and stones jamming up your wheel while riding offroad a legitimate concern?

@Henrywildeberry

4 жыл бұрын

There's always a possibility for sticks and leaves to get sucked into the fender. Depending on how much off-road riding you do it's usually not a major problem, only a nuisance on occasion. If you ride only off-road I would look into the higher clearance fenders for mountain bikes. They don't give as much coverage but help keep the mud off of you. For mixed terrain riding full coverage fenders work best, especially if they are installed to give you a good amount of tire clearance. All the best!

@deeppeacenature265

4 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry Thank you sir. That is definitely helpful!

are fenders aero?

Your kit/setup is almost perfect. You just need a mirror on your shades....

I've had bikes last decades without fenders and without doing any maintenance at all.

Plastic vs metal fenders? are plastic better cuz lighter?

@Henrywildeberry

3 жыл бұрын

Plastic fenders are generally used for quick and easy install when you don't plan to have them on permanently. Metal fenders are better if you want to keep them on all year.

@tyren818

3 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry ok thanks, kinda hard to find fenders for my bike with 650b 47mm tires! 🤔

@Henrywildeberry

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the metal fenders by either Honjo (aluminum) or Gilles Berthoud (stainless steel). Both of those brands are high quality, require some tools and skill for installation, but they are very sturdy. Good luck!

@tyren818

3 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry thanks, will look into them.

One more argument for fenders can be the look. I really like you bike and I think it would be a pity to remove those fenders. One general thing I noticed is, that many bikes on photos look cool without fenders. But seing them in real, especially from behind those bikes would look better with fenders. One more argument against fenders is, that they often chatter and make noises on bad bumpy roads or gravel.

@Henrywildeberry

4 жыл бұрын

I've had pretty luck removing the chatter on bumpy roads by making sure the fenders do not rub against anything (brakes or chain stays in particular). At the chain stays I dimple the fends to fit around the stays and use a short strip of single sided foam tape to keep them from rubbing. All of that has helped to keep them quiet even on gravel roads. All the best!

@jeanyluisa8483

4 жыл бұрын

@@Henrywildeberry Thank you for your tipps. I solved it by having 2 bikes. On my normal bike I have fenders, because I dont want to walk around with dirty pants and a muddy back all day, just because there was a puddle or a wet road on the way. At my other cheap, old bike from Ebay, I removed the fenders. I use it for driving aorund for fun only. Thats usually only when its dry outside and when driving around for fun it doesnt matter if I get a bit dirty. Removing everything you do not really need and that can chatter, e.g. fenders and so, really improves the "I dont care" feeling at such an old bike ;-)

Well if you race in a group in the rain *everybody* better have long fenders or you simply wont be able to ride fast close together.

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, full fenders on racing bikes is problematic. There are very few options for fenders on racing bikes, because clearances are too tight. However, as disk brakes and larger tires continue to evolve, we may, but not likely, see fenders on road racing bikes? I'm not sure. What I can say is, for a comfortable training bike, having a little more clearance for fenders will make training in the off-season a little more enjoyable, and when the weather gets better, pull out the racing bike and show your friends what a full winter of training can do. Good luck!

@rollinrat4850

3 жыл бұрын

If you 'really need' an ultra light, all weather bike, modern gravel and all road bikes are able to accept pretty fat tires these days. Many of the high end models are exceptionally light. You can always use fenders and skinnier tires on these bikes, provided there's a place to mount them. For those such as myself who are super critical of their personal rides, there is always that full custom option. YOU get EXACTLY what YOU want! You know who built it and where to go if there's ever issues. Ive never had one. This is a great option if you're a serious rider who plans to keep a bike for decades. Its a great 'investment'! I seem to recall I saw somebody making titanium fenders too...... for those of you with money to burn!

I would say weight is just as important as on race day vs a longer tour. Weight, more so then airo.??? Yes, No???

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeff, thanks for your comment, much appreciated! In my experience, aluminum fenders only add a marginal amount of weight to a bike. Racing and touring are on opposite ends of the spectrum, so it's difficult to compare the two. Tourist's ride to get out and explore. The idea is self-reliance, so weight is secondary to comfort, functionality, and reliability. Whether weight matters equally on a touring ride as in a race is comparing apples to oranges. Weight is always something to consider, but there is a different tool for a different job. Happy cycling!

@jeffyonkus2149

6 жыл бұрын

Henrywildeberry ... so i come into this sport via long distance hiking. All weight for extend duration of life is carried, similar to bike packing. We are not ultra runners but put in just as many miles at a slower pace. Ultralight is all the craze in this activity, and I agree with it becaus it puts less stress on my body and prevents injory. I can only assume that there is some, if not more crossover between the two sports and although I ride a steal frame, would like to reduce as much weight as possible. Also keeping a minimal set-up to reduce pain in my ass repairs. Will fenders really make my drive train last longer? Will they make me push harder when fighting wind? Will they cost me money and time better spent on food and travel? Personal questions. you have some insight for me? Appreciate your vid. And time.

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Fenders are a small investment, but payoff in the long term by protecting your drivetrain, saddle, bicycle frame, and any gear or bags you might decide to carry. A good quality set of aluminum fenders only add about a pound of weight to a bike, an increase you would never be able to notice on any ride. It's possible to create an ultralight touring bike even with fenders. There are better ways to save weight, such as an ultra light sleeping bag, for example. I would also say, you could build light wheels, with titanium hubs, and using tubeless tires. There are a plethora of light weight components, crank sets, handle bars, stems, racks, seat posts, saddles, and even cycling clothes. Saving weight has never been easier today if you have the budget to afford it. All the best, and I hope to see you out on the road one day.

@jeffyonkus2149

6 жыл бұрын

Henrywildeberry. Titanium wheels sounds a lite for my bike and wallet. I'm going to take your advice and spring for some fenders though... If you don't mind, where do you think the biggest weight loss can come from off my bike? Crank arm would be my best guess?

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Let me preface this by saying cutting weight is something to do over time. What I would do is start with a reasonably light frame sized appropriately for you. Set it up with mid level components, nothing too light (Shimano 105/Deore level is fine). Get a good set of wheels, and depending on your weight you may want to consider going with a 32 to 36 spoke wheel at first. Eventually you'll upgrade wheels, but it's nice to have a starting point that is easy on the wallet. Get a nice quality tire, and don't cheap out on these. Tires are probably the single most important part of any bicycle. Learn how these tires perform. Some tires are light and fast, but puncture easily, so it will help to learn what they are like on the roads/trails you ride. I've learned some tires can roll through glass on the road and not puncture, while others cannot. As you ride and get more familiar things will begin to evolve, but at least you will have a good foundation to base your future decisions from. I think steel bikes are money well spent. They have good resale value unlike carbon or aluminum. Steel is also repairable fairy easily should you drop it or crack it. Ti is very expensive, so don't waste your money on Ti until you are a seasoned cyclist (sorry if I'm making the wrong assumption about you) and you know exactly what you want in a bike. Ti is a material designed to last for a very long time. Light cranks are cool, but most cranksets are all very similar in weight now when you factor in the bottom bracket. Shimano 105 is nice or you could get a nice Velo Orange if you like the classic look. Also, look into used parts. You can find amazing deals on older triple cranksets because they are out of favor now due to the 1x craze. You're going to thank me later when you're touring and you have that extra low gear. From what I wrote above you could easily have a 20lb bike ready for your touring racks and bags. Best of luck!

Full time fenders yes indeed. Great bag upfront! Tune selection reminds me of this gem --->>kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpmal6xrp7S2abA.html

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really like this front bag too. I was really nervous when I purchased it, because of the price. Now that it's nearly two years old, I look back and think about how much this one purchase has shaped my view of cycling. Now, I think every bike should have one. Even if you have a bike racers focus, you should have at least one bike dedicated with a bag on the front for training and general adventure. In fact, I will argue, training with a handle bar bag will make you a better bike racer. Why? Because it allows you to ride longer without stopping, especially in the winter months when it's all about base miles, the LSD approach. Also, winter is generally colder, so you need to carry extra layers. Where do you put your heavy layers when you warm up, or you're riding up a long climb? The front bag is so you can grab what you need without stopping. And for everyone else not racing, there is no reason not to have a handlebar bag, and fenders. Seriously, it's the best way to enjoy bike riding.

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the link too! Dave Rawlings is awesome!

Your advice and commentary is really good but the music choice was odd. I mean. I liked the song but it really doesn't fit the video at all. Over all, great work!

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Varghese thanks for your feedback! I’m a beginner with editing and have so far chosen music from a small library.

@NotApplicable2874

6 жыл бұрын

I understand but try looking into non-copyrighted music (I know there are entire KZread channels that are dedicated to that). Also, might want to lower the volume a bit in the beginning too. Good Luck!

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, I appreciate your honest feedback. I'll work on the volume and I'll check out the non-copyright music too.

@NotApplicable2874

6 жыл бұрын

No problem! I just ordered some fenders after watching your video! Waiting for them to arrive!

@Henrywildeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Let us know how they work out?