How to Install Honjo Fenders
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This is a how I install Honjo fenders. Full fenders are a huge upgrade to any bike with enough clearance to accommodate them. Fenders are often balked at because they add weight to a bike. While this is true, they add some weight, they are a practical addition. For a small weight increase, the list of benefits are long to include; keeping you and your bike clean, reducing maintenance, and reducing wear and tear. Fenders also provide additional protection for your bike touring bags. They can also be a place to mount reflectors and lights for added visibility. Metal fenders come in both aluminum and steel. Aluminum fenders are light, but can more easily bend or get damaged. Steel is stronger, but a little heavier. It will be up to you which to choose, and I have chosen the lighter aluminum hammered fenders by Honjo.
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This video defined the true meaning of "PERFECTION"
Great video! I’m installing my first set of bike fenders and this is exactly what I needed to see! Thank you!
The best fender install video I have seen in a while......Thanks
Beautiful bike
I liked your technique for finding the centerline on various curved surfaces, and I am also a fan of metal fenders for the reasons you noted.
Great video ! This will help me install my Honjo fenders here in the near future. Thank-you !
Very details, clear and easy to follow instructions especially what to look out in the bike prior to purchase new fenders. I'm thinking about getting a set of fenders for new bike too so your video truly helps. Thanks for the great tips.
Excellent vid. Great attention to detail, awesome point of view with camera work. Thank you, subscribed! Touring cyclist in AZ
Beautiful bike and nice installation guide. I think I'm sold on which mudguards to get for my modern steel bike build!
Nice video. I like metal fenders and have them on my bikes that are designed for fenders. I just finished installing VO fenders on my Norther-Lyon. I like a good fender-line so I had to manipulate the radius a lot. Even though the 650B fenders fit pretty well, I still had to decrease the radius. Very time comsuming process. I took the bike on a test ride yesterday and all was well until I came out of the saddle and the front tire rubbed the fender! Ugh, back to the workshop!
I always enjoy instructional videos and how other riders like to set up there bikes.
@drtoothpaste
6 жыл бұрын
Here we are my friend, like minds.....
@anant6778
3 жыл бұрын
*their ;)
Dude, Wanted to write and say thanks for this video! I just put on some VO fenders , and this video gave me a great reference from start to finish! I have to say that I think you would even be stoked on "the lines"! Thanks again and keep up the great work! Best, Rob
@Henrywildeberry
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So stoked! I can't wait to see the photos up on Instagram.
Fantastic video, thanks so much! Thinking about the rear stay alignment. In the future, it could be interesting to try align it to the chain, rather than the frame, and see how it looks.
I'll be buying some pre-drilled ones... 😂
Nice one Henry. See you on the road in WESCO ... cheers!
That's a very beautiful bike.
Great video for those who are contemplating their first set of metal fenders - they are more challenging to install, but more practical and durable than plastic fenders. The video is long, but that's because it is very comprehensive. Admittedly, it takes me at least an hour per fender to install - I'm VERY picky about getting them to fit properly: dimpling the sides to fit in between forks or chain stays, creating spacers when needed, obsessing about fender lines... and I measure at least three times before cutting or punching holes in anything. I've not actually installed Honjos, but two sets of Velo Orange fenders - essentially the same process and they are highly recommended as well. Fun quick cuts and light humor here and there. From one Vanagon Westy owner to another: well done!
@Henrywildeberry
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Noted on the Velo Orange fenders! This set actually went together pretty seamlessly other than not having a long enough rear hanger. To your points, I agree on all counts. It's worth the extra effort in obsessing over the fender lines, dimples, and hanger alignment, because as you know, once they are set, you can forget about it. Plus they just look better that way. I personally haven't tried the Velo Orange fenders myself, but I image they are basically the same. Honjo's come in a wide array of sizes, mounting hardware types, and styles to help make your ride personalized which is why I chose them. Its hard to find the exact fit for each bike, so having options helps. Awesome to know you have a Westy too! I'm really glad I have mine, I couldn't afford to get one now.
@duncanbeattie1040
5 жыл бұрын
How do you do the dimpling?
Very helpful.
Thanks.
Just wanted to say this was a really well done tutorial. I'm in the process of getting my Honjo's professionally installed and this video definitely made me feel better about my decision to have it done professionally - I'm not as skilled or patient as you are. PS that bike is beautiful and you're 100% right about fenders.
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback. Whether you do it yourself or have it done professionally I'm glad you found this helpful. Cheers!
Thanks for the excellent video and the great measuring tips, Jeremy! I'm thinking of putting some Honjos on my Rawland, and I just came across this vid. (How did I miss this one?). I have VO fenders on another bike of mine, and it was a pretty painless operation, but I read that the Honjos were a bit more involved. This looks very straightforward, so thanks!
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert! Honjos are not too bad to install. Do you plan to use a daruma to hang the front fender from the fork crown? Installing these is really not to bad. Plan for it to take quite a bit of time (4 to 8 hours). I find the challenge is with the chain stay bridge and brake bridge. It seems these two points of attachment need the most fine tuning.
@reehren
5 жыл бұрын
@@Henrywildeberry My rSogn has a plate with two threaded holes underneath the steerer, so no daruma is needed this time. And hopefully, no drama -- the bike was designed with the fender mounts all equidistant from the axles, which should help. Also, the bike has tons of clearance all around, so hopefully no crimping or bending will be needed at the bridges, so that seems to be a reasonable estimate of time required. Thanks again, and I'll keep you posted!
The position of the stay on the front is incredibly important. On a Velo Orange Campeur frameset there was so much toe overlap that my foot would snag the stay even if the wheel was turned only a little. It was so bad that I retired the frame.
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
That's very unfortunate. One of the benefits of a longer wheelbase is less toe-overlap. A lower trail bike with more fork rake will have less overlap. The steering feels a little different, but it gives the fork a little more spring to it. A medium trail bike can work too if the head tube angle is more relaxed. I hope you find a frame that works for you.
Great how-to! My first ever KZread video upload was of my Mercian touring bike, and it got a few, mostly complimentary comments. That was 12 or 13 years ago. One comment was pretty good - but the final line was something like “you gotta fit Honjos”. Back then I didn’t even know what Honjos were, but I found out! Not wanting to rush into anything rashly, I mulled over the comment and today, fresh from Osaka, a pair of shiny fenders (mudguards here in England) lie before me in their packaging. Henrywildeberry’s vid is a top drawer how-to. I love how he explains every detail, especially the measuring techniques, and his fanatical search for perfection. I look forward to the follow up showing how to get the rear fender to fit nearly behind the bottom bracket. I also notice that the video shows the front fender fitted with the logo at the bottom. I’d planned to have it at the front. I guess it personal preference.
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks MisterBee! Good luck installing your new fenders (mudguards). The logo placement is a personal choice. I eventually remove the stickers after a while.
Your incredible
Very nice video. I'm about to install some Honjos and this helps visualize the process. Is there any reason a sewing tape measure would not work to locate the fender center? Maybe the stays too, although that would only work if both arms of the stay are exactly the same length.
Got a good laugh when you held up the angle bracket to attach to the brake for the rear fender. The "long leg" goes up, the short leg is bolted to the fender.
big like . your details excellent . if you're ever in east L.A area the hood . come on over for some homemade some beans rice steak burrito's con papa's
Nice video! What camera do you use to film with? I’m impressed with the clarity and auto focus.
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
Addison French Thank you! I use a LUMIX G-85
Wanted to say thanks for making this video! Thinking of getting some Honjo fenders for my old school trek 640 w/ 27" 1-1/4" tires. Not sure which size and style will fit though. Also I have a rack mounted in the rear which I need to think through. What size tires are on your bike and which fender style did you choose? Btw, the fenders on that bike are looking sweet!!
@Henrywildeberry
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment! This bike originally had 27 x 1 1/4" tires and I swapped them for 700x32mm. The outside diameter is close, so I used 700x41mm Honjo Fenders, and the diameter is nearly perfect from what I can tell. Also, something to consider, the hammered fenders feel a little thinner in thickness compared to the smooth fenders. What that means is they will need an upper brace on the front fender or a rack with a fender braze-on to keep them stable.
On my 2018 Kona Rove ST, the chain stay clearance is much narrower than the seat stay clearance. I want to get a wide set of fenders (Honjo Turtle 58.. ), but that lower stay causes a problem.
L O V E the video. I would have loved to see how you worked with the chainstay bridge, did you just bend the fender at the edges to fit?
As a bike newbie, what if anything changes in these instructions when mounting Honjo fenders on a bike with fatter tires (eg, 3" wide, 27.5" tires)? Thanks!
Thanks for this video. Near the start you mentioned that the rear one doesn't fit between the chainstays and needs a minor modification. Is that shown in the video?
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
I'll have to show this in a future video!
@johnhouston8297
3 жыл бұрын
Rear installation seems to require it's own specific technique. Would love to see a rear custom fender install as well. Definitely looks to take a sharp eye and a nice touch to get a proper install. Look forward to doing mine soon.
@johnhouston8297
3 жыл бұрын
@@Henrywildeberry I see it's a year later but please do 🙏🏼
Do these fenders come with standard mounting brackets, bolts, etc?
Great video, there was no real explanation on how you got the rear fender below the chain stay/bridge, would have liked to have seen that
@Henrywildeberry
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua. Thanks for the feedback. I can't remember why I inadvertently forgot to come back and show how to clearance the fender around the chain stay bridge. I'll need to make a follow up to this sometime soon!
Hi. I have a 1975 Shwinn Suburban. After replacing the rear tire and seemingly centering it, the tire now rubs against the fender. Perhaps the new tire is wider? Anyway, do you know how to straighten the rear fender? Perhaps it is bent.
Hey Henry out of curiosity did you end up ordering a larger fender bracket. If so what type and where did you order it from. I'm running into a similar problem but with my front fender. I need a longer bracket to reach down as I've converted my bike to 650b. Also out of all your bikes with Honjo fenders have you ever had some with lots of tension on the fender to help keep a constant fender line? I'm having some troubles getting the fender to the same diameter as my tire.
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Ben Geldreich Yes, I ended up getting another long L-bracket. Check out Sim Works. They have a lot of small parts avail to order individually.
Great video! The water bottles and the water bottle holders on your grey bike what brand are thoes? Thanks!
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
The Cages are King Cage Iris and the bottles are Klean Kanteen Classic.
@tempus_forma7863
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks for the tutorial, I would like to fit a 50mm SS fender (Berthoud). It would fit everywhere except at the bridge behing the bottom bracket where the clearance is 45 mm. Have you ever "tampered" with you fenders to fit them at the 1 inch below the bridge like you recommend ? I mean that at 5:05 you mention there is not much space in your chainstay and that you will explain how to make a modification so the fender will fit but you never show how. Can you explain what you did ?
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Hi! Normally, I’ll shape the fenders so they fit between the stays. There are several ways to do this, one way is to use a wood dowel with a similar diameter as your chain stay and lightly hammer the fender into shape. Make sure you get everything marked exactly where you need to make room. When you start shaping go slow and recheck often. Take your time and it will pay of later. Good luck!
@NinthwaveThe
4 жыл бұрын
@@Henrywildeberry I wanted to thank you. This video had me find your channel and I subscribed. I wanted Berthoud SS but the C$ has fallen since the covid and the S&H is prohibitive. I found a discount on some VO. You helped me install them. Sad I can't post a picture of my commuter...
Hi! Do you know if that`s the original crankset that came with the Bianchi?
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Hello Tate, I'm not sure on whether this is the original crankset. My guess is it was put on later since it's a Sugino and I imagine bikes from the this era came with Campy components. I read somewhere the orange paint color was made specifically for the North American market. The orange paint was very rare for Bianchi. It's possible these were shipped over as frame sets and local bike shops assembled them with parts on hand. In that case this could be an original crankset, but I'd have to research when Sugino manufactured aluminum cranks to see if the era is correct. Excellent question, thank you!
Decent front racks in the UK very expensive, for what they are.
I think both front and rear stays should look the same.
Hey Mr. Wildeberry! Out of curiosity is there a reason why you chose to use a L bracket on the rear fender versus a sliding bracket? Any strength advantages? I ask because both options would work on my rear fender and yet both options have there cons. The L bracket takes away from the fenders and is a bit intrusive where as the sliding bracket can cause a bit of rattle and although it can be hidden a little under the brake it is also a tad intrusive. Both work, I guess I'm searching for another opinion.
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
The rear brake bridge on this frame was set too high for the sliding bracket to work. Originally this was a 27-inch bike that I converted to 700c. I found the L-brackes come in two sizes, a short and a long. I needed to use the long in order to get the fenders low enough for the proper fender line on the 700c tire. The L-brackets are nice though and come with an extra plate underneath to reinforce the connection to the fender. I also used nylon locking nuts to keep them from vibrating loose. They hold the fenders very securely. You could also use the crimped lock nuts as well (they are little shorter), or add a drop of lock tight on the threads. You might be able to turn the flange of the L-bracket 180-degrees and tuck it under the brake so it's not as visible? However, I think they look fine especially with some nice looking stainless steel screws. Cut the screws so there is no extra threads protruding below the nut to give you the best tire clearance.
@BenGeldreich
4 жыл бұрын
@@Henrywildeberry Thanks for the reply! I also had to use the L bracket in the front a so can attest to their good looks and appreciate the reinforcement plate. Appreciate the suggestion for locking nylon nuts as that didn't cross my mind. I'll have to track some down once I sort out the size. Did you add lock tight to any of the other areas that secure the fender to the bike, Like the u-stays, or front rack? I wasn't planning on doing that at all, but I never thought about road vibration causing the nuts to loosen.
what sort of drill do you recommend for drilling the holes in the fender? Would a lightweight dremel do the job?
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
The aluminum is very soft, a Dremel will work just fine. I've even seen someone use a hole punch designed for metals. Good luck, and measure twice!
What material is that stainless or chrome steel
I must have missed it. What size tires are on that bad boy?
@Henrywildeberry
4 жыл бұрын
Hi NorCal Mike. These are 700x32. That was about max with the fenders. I could likely run 700x35 or even 38 with this frame without the fenders.
What about gravel riding and fenders? On the one hand fenders keep grit and grime off, but mud build up would seem to render fenders not a good idea. Thanks.
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Ed Catt it really depends on what the soil type is and moisture conditions. So far I’ve only had one bad experience riding gravel roads with fenders and that was because I ended up in a huge clay mess. Otherwise, they are fine. I just finished 40 miles of muddy fire roads complete with creek crossings in Marin with no issue, and I finished the ride clean. The other two riders were covered in mud and water! Fenders all the way!
@edcatt9196
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've ridden a fendered bike commuting, and loved it. But, when I started gravel riding (I live near where Dirty Kanza is held), the limestone gravel dust can be like sticky clay in wet weather. So I stopped using fenders. But they definitely do keep things a lot cleaner! Love your videos. I love the classic bike, too. I once had a steel Batavus touring bike. wish I'd kept it now!
@Henrywildeberry
5 жыл бұрын
Ed Catt dang! It sounds like you live in an area where fenders are not a good idea. That’s unfortunate. In your case the plastic type might be your best bet. What kind of tires do you use there?
How much clearance do you recommend between the tire and fender. I’m in the mock up phase.
@Henrywildeberry
Жыл бұрын
20mm is a good starting point.
@billmaidment5623
Жыл бұрын
@@Henrywildeberry Lego bricks work great as spacers. I taped them to the tire in four places to ensure the spacing was the same everywhere. What made you add the second front stay? My front fender seems a bit wiggly so I’m considering as a last resort.
I love my fenders to. In The Netherlands you are a nerd if you ride fenders, I DON'T CARE!!
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Wheres the hat from? 🤠
@RotundaAmusements
4 ай бұрын
The purple one
what I learned here is that Honjo are not for lazy people haha
and im here trying to remove these XD
@anant6778
3 жыл бұрын
you'll regret it
wow, too much chat, too much information, just get to the point
where's the chainstay fit work? Have a similar Expedition and the clearance is narrow AF. Hoping this would be in the video is all