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  • @gabet3754
    @gabet37543 ай бұрын

    You’re my favorite audio engineering vampire.

  • @RAZALAHORI
    @RAZALAHORI Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching gear related videos for a while now, and i noticed that some people have a hard time understanding that people like david are running a business. All this expensive gear helps them bring more customers in and it makes their job easier saying stuff like converters are useless or gear is useless is just dumb its like telling a concert guy that he doesn't need a mixer because he can mix it in wheelbarrow lol yes its possible but it'll take forever to finish 1 driveway and it'll look really bad

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @AR7271

    @AR7271

    Жыл бұрын

    No one is knocking the nice stuff that actually makes a huge difference. Equalizers, compressors and tube/transformer saturation devices. But when it comes to converters well... There is a point where the audio dust is being sniffed. Especially if you abuse the brick wall limiter settings... It's like buying the best circular power saw and then making inprecise cuts simply because you can.

  • @RAZALAHORI

    @RAZALAHORI

    Жыл бұрын

    @AR7271 i was just saying what i saw in the comments of lots of videos, but if someone is buying a 3k convert, then they are abusing it they shouldn't be buying it imo even if they have to think about the purchasing it few times it just means the business isnt there yet im saying it strictly in business point of view not whats good and whats bad i noticed high end engineers have very very expensive setups im sure some devices are just their dream toys that they always wanted which is also cool 😉

  • @alexeykononenko6648
    @alexeykononenko6648 Жыл бұрын

    Hi David. Great video as always. It would be interesting to hear you talk about adding 'glue' to the mix. I know there's been some videos on compression, etc., but I know it is a combination of things, and it would be great to hear your summary, common mistakes you see, etc. Thanks either way.

  • @dalydose221
    @dalydose221 Жыл бұрын

    This is good advice

  • @ITSYABOYDONTE
    @ITSYABOYDONTE Жыл бұрын

    I understand what he was trying to ask because when I first learned about converters and decided also to purchase and RME ADI-2 FS I didnt fully understand AD/DA conversion and I thought that I had to do something special to make it convert through my ADI- 2 PRO. I didnt understand that as long as I have it connected correctly and as long as I'm printing in real time using studion one 6 that the conversion was happening with the ADI. Before that I didnt know if I had to connect a certain way or change a setting in the unit to make it use the ADI converters. I just needed to research more and understand conversion more and how the unit worked with my DAW and my setup since this was my first time owning any piece of hardware and I mostly mix and master. I initially didnt know If it was working or not because i didnt understand converters and conversion.

  • @korbykor1546
    @korbykor15467 ай бұрын

    Yes. Yes you do.

  • @JohnnysaidWhat
    @JohnnysaidWhat Жыл бұрын

    I have been struggling to get a good sound recording acoustic guitar. Tried different mics but still didn’t sound right. I have a great dedicated mic pre and a great mic. EC2 OC818. Interface was the weak link. Bought a used 8 channel lynx aurora. Unbelievable the difference it made. Finally have my end game chain.

  • @iamcrisis187
    @iamcrisis18711 ай бұрын

    My Vox chain Sony c100>BAE 1073MPF>Manley ELOP+>Burl B2ADC 2 Bus - D-Box+>Heritage SYMPH EQ>Heritage Successor>Burl B2ADC Love my Burl!

  • @officialjoeynelson

    @officialjoeynelson

    4 ай бұрын

    My vocal chain circle audio 251 > bae 1073mp > bluey > golden age comp 2a > burl b2bomber adc SSL summing , spl vitalizer Burl b2 bomber adc Monitor system crane song avocet

  • @madmuso5
    @madmuso5 Жыл бұрын

    I remember my first "holy shit" moment with converters years ago. Nearly 2 decades ago my first audio card was an RME pci card that you plugged directly into. Once I had the cash I replaced it with the RME hammer fall 9652 and Apogee AD16x. It blew me away and I still have that same setup with ADI8 doing DA. Converters definitely make a difference and make life easier.

  • @davidcache

    @davidcache

    Жыл бұрын

    Rme for the win. I use the hdspe aio for aes, adi2 pro FS, for mastering chain, and ucxii for my 500 rack. I've never had a single hiccup, and i fully trust what the music sounds like

  • @madmuso5

    @madmuso5

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidcache RME are great. I borrowed an adi2 once (the then newer blue ones) and to my ears it sounded better than my older adi8 that I use. Only reason I kept the adi8 is cause I needed the extra analogue outs.

  • @MELOPSMUSIC

    @MELOPSMUSIC

    10 ай бұрын

    @@madmuso5 really hear the adi2 better the Adi 8 ds mkiii ?

  • @aliensexist545
    @aliensexist545 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Could you do a video about the power situation? How do you plug in all that gear! Thanks

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJaNspqep5m8Zrg.html

  • @aliensexist545

    @aliensexist545

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustvThat is very cool! Missed that part Seems like not a lot of info on youtube about how everything is plugged in power wise Thanks!

  • @bighousemusic628
    @bighousemusic628Ай бұрын

    bro🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro please can i have that zulu behind you my mix need some butter soooo badly🤣

  • @JimboJones99
    @JimboJones992 ай бұрын

    What do you think of the Ferrofish Pulse 16 converters? Nice clean transparent converters do you think? … especially if you’ve already got a pair of Neve 542’s on your mixbus that already has color from the transformers. Other than having a Burl B2 ADC that is adding more color

  • @RenzoG9-Topic
    @RenzoG9-Topic Жыл бұрын

    David I’m curious how you like tracking vocal through your AD+? I’m thinking of getting one for tracking but also to print mixes with hardware. Any advice or thoughts?

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing. One of the reasons I picked it is how easy was to switch the input and track with it

  • @adrianjeffrey2897
    @adrianjeffrey2897 Жыл бұрын

    Without watching the video... Hell yes period you may not need that exact brand but converters matter every time I upgraded by converters my mixes work better and better and the artist that I were recording or working with were happier and happier. I will be getting the time adi-2 sounds amazing to my ears

  • @AR7271

    @AR7271

    Жыл бұрын

    Did upgrading converters get your music played on the air though?

  • @BukanIbuMu

    @BukanIbuMu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AR7271 doesn't matter

  • @ezrashanti

    @ezrashanti

    Жыл бұрын

    Adi2 is a great value and sounds awesome :)

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite Жыл бұрын

    I use Burl DA converters for monitoring 🤔

  • @st33Npuist
    @st33Npuist Жыл бұрын

    Thinking about RME ADI-2.. ITB only.

  • @vontreherumaiBH
    @vontreherumaiBH5 ай бұрын

    I use my dangerous AD+ with my Lynx Hilo via AES , and maannnnn the Dangerous sounds smoother then the Lynx Hilo AD side of things ! It’s crazy 😭😭😭 but the Lynx DA side ,maannn I don’t think no other DA touching the clarity of the Lynx Hilo ‼️‼️

  • @fvcvbvcbccbc2803
    @fvcvbvcbccbc2803 Жыл бұрын

    Hey David, is it possible to have a video deeply diving in attack and release of a limiter? Tutors and youtubes talk like limiter has only one control, but I really want to have an idea about how we should use a limiter properly just like how seriously people treating compressors these days.

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    sure!

  • @fvcvbvcbccbc2803

    @fvcvbvcbccbc2803

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv Nice! Super grateful for it!

  • @LucasMichalski
    @LucasMichalski9 ай бұрын

    Hi David, what is your honest opinion on RME adi-2 pro as a main DAC for both monitoring and capturing and analogue gear on the loopback? Thanks

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    8 ай бұрын

    Great converter, Howie just got one

  • @SoundKilterStudio
    @SoundKilterStudio5 ай бұрын

    Hey man! I don't really have a question, but was hoping for advice. My outboard gear has outgrown the available Analog I/O on my interface. I do have available ADAT In and Out on it though. And I am eventually going to upgrade my interface but I will still need more I/O regardless of the interface I choose because I do not want to sacrifice any mic pre's for additional I/O if that makes sense. So I was wondering what you would recommend for mid to high end converters? Specifically something with at least x8 line ins and outs and ADAT ins and outs. Im looking at the Ferrofish Pulse but wanted an opinion from someone who has the experience on different setups and has very similar taste as I do (i.e. you). Thanks man!

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh the timing :D since I JUST officially ran out of channel myself and I'm now 8ch short I had to make the call and get another 16A and that's what you should get, that easy. Motu 16A, this is my third so consider yourself lucky lol

  • @SoundKilterStudio

    @SoundKilterStudio

    5 ай бұрын

    😅 Well I'll be damned. Yeah I couldn't have hit you up at a better time! Thanks man. That was simple. But am I the lucky one here? 😅 I would love to need 3 of them with your gear! But I say that with full understanding you have earned all of it. Thanks again bro.

  • @bighousemusic628
    @bighousemusic628 Жыл бұрын

    A very big R.I.P to the late dave hill one of my mentour from jamaica here with the crane song HEDD saving to grab one just for his memories just like my neve 1073 pre that i wount be giving selling or lending no time soon

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    Massive loss

  • @StereotacticMusic

    @StereotacticMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    I've had the Egret and the Hedd because of him and who he is, without listening first I bought them but that was 10 years ago and i was inexperienced so I sold the 2 units , now I wouldn't

  • @grahamtaylor6883
    @grahamtaylor6883 Жыл бұрын

    I've only used audio interfaces for my conversion and I'm just about to buy an RME Fireface UFX2. But I'm thinking, would I be better buying dedicated converters and some pre amps instead? But how do dedicated converters get in to the computer? Do you have to buy extra PCi cards?

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    Interfaces are converters. Of course buying dedicated converters and pres are generally speaking better than all in ones but today there are very high quality interfaces. Connections depends on the models

  • @HollerAtcherBoi

    @HollerAtcherBoi

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not the UFX + ?

  • @grahamtaylor6883

    @grahamtaylor6883

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HollerAtcherBoi The only difference is that the + has MADI connectivity, which I have no use for and is more expensive.

  • @bighousemusic628

    @bighousemusic628

    Жыл бұрын

    High end audio interfaces are converters but the standalone converters plus preamp and summing mixers are the hybrid way to go if you are going into the commercial way but all in one audio interfaces for personal and home use is a good choice

  • @GingerDrums

    @GingerDrums

    Жыл бұрын

    I make a decent living mixing music and doing audio post for German TV. Nobody cares which converters you have. 10ms slower or faster release on bis compressor will make more difference. All modern converters are very good, for instance the Audient 100€ converters null completely after 50 cycles. The new RME converters are extremely good (objectively the jitter and headroom is comparable to anything else on the market)

  • @cytocache1238
    @cytocache1238 Жыл бұрын

    Do you use the adat out of your AD+ or straight USB

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    AD+ passes the digital signal to the 8pre ES via ADAT, my connection to the computer is TB

  • @cytocache1238

    @cytocache1238

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv is there any concern about the way ADAT sounds vs Spidf?

  • @holasoypablo1
    @holasoypablo1 Жыл бұрын

    Hello do you think that the Uad Apollo x8 have pro quality converters or mid range? for example to process the audio with external gear in 3 or 4 loopbacks, thanks a lot!

  • @MELOPSMUSIC
    @MELOPSMUSIC10 ай бұрын

    Someone can tell me if my Aurora 8 (first generation) should be upgraded ? For mixing. Thx

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    10 ай бұрын

    Aurora are good converters if you don't mind the fact thatn you can cook eggs on it after 4 minutes they're on

  • @kinheartbreak
    @kinheartbreak16 күн бұрын

    @2:50 This is what I've been stuck on. Im currently going line out of my Apollo x6 into analog chain and then capturing with an AD+. I was considering getting the Convert 2 to go along with the AD+ but how would I be able to both Feed the chain and monitor if it is only a 2 channel DA? Would I need 2 convert 2's ?

  • @kinheartbreak

    @kinheartbreak

    16 күн бұрын

    love the channel btw been a fan for a min 🤟

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    15 күн бұрын

    Most of us have two converters, one for monitoring, one to feed the chain. The "critical" one is the monitoring, that's what I use the Dangerous for. The DA stage is less expensive and less difficult to make compared to the AD. With today's even average quality you have great DAs to feed your chain, especially considering you're not gonna push the DA anywhere NEAR its limits

  • @jimjones1505
    @jimjones1505 Жыл бұрын

    How would you run several converters on the same pc

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    With a pretty complicated setup

  • @patkelly8309

    @patkelly8309

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv 😄

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of converters, what's the best bang-for-buck that isn't an interface?

  • @toslinked

    @toslinked

    Жыл бұрын

    if you still have pci and a pc, RME raydat or even the older 9652 will give you best latency on the market plus great software and a lot of ins and outs via adat. I have a raydat with two ferrofish pulse 16 converters and couldn’t be happier (without spending a few thousand extra).

  • @aleksamrkela831

    @aleksamrkela831

    Жыл бұрын

    @@toslinked No, I want to expand an interface with 16 ins & outs, but I've seen that one Pulse16 can work for that as well. Though, at over 1000 euros, it's a bit on the pricy side.

  • @toslinked

    @toslinked

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aleksamrkela831 oh ok! well before the ferrofish I had a few of the behringer 1820s and they are perfectly fine for recording. the weak side is the DA, but still unbeatable for the money.

  • @aleksamrkela831

    @aleksamrkela831

    Жыл бұрын

    @@toslinked Do you think the Behringer would work fine for mixing with analog gear?

  • @toslinked

    @toslinked

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aleksamrkela831 that’s what I used them for. outboard compressors, fx. it’s nothing fancy but just set and forget, it’s certainly good enough unless you have extremely expensive outboard. a 180€ converter next to a stamchild wouldn’t make much sense but probably still be workable.

  • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
    @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY Жыл бұрын

    Q: "Do you need different converters?" A: "Nope, not no. All we need are the android Ash A.I. from Aliens and Acustica Audio's Ash."

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    Too bad you can't capture a mix with a plugin. Now what?

  • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

    @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv elaborate "capture". You act like I disrespected your ownership of the Dangerous AD+. You even proudly wanted to do a review of ASH only based on popular demand...which didn't come to fruition.

  • @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

    @TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv When it comes to "capturing a mix", do you mean this: "One of the joys of analog is that the sound palette is so versatile. Each unit will give you a different sonic character, and the ability to push these boxes to their extremes allows an engineer to create sounds out of the box that the digital realm isn’t able to provide yet. That’s why us analog heads like having such a plethora of different machines at hand. " MixOnline quote.

  • @TheSakuraGumiLTD
    @TheSakuraGumiLTD Жыл бұрын

    I do find it a bit odd with the converters adding a colour signal after I found out it was just the same thing as the components in analogue equipment.. it seems odd... just keep the conversion separate and save the faff... make their colour add a separate unit surely? I just adds another complication like the one in this video. But unfortunately this exists and I might want to do the same because of it🤣

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I don't want color on my converters, and I would focus on other things to get color if needed

  • @TheSakuraGumiLTD

    @TheSakuraGumiLTD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv (It* just..) It really doesn't make sense, especially if you expect to hear the same thing monitoring your analogue chain as when it's been converted. Plus that colour they are adding is in most units already... it's a bit like using a pen knife in a professional kitchen 😂

  • @toslinked
    @toslinked Жыл бұрын

    first

  • @aleksamrkela831

    @aleksamrkela831

    Жыл бұрын

    Very cool username. :D

  • @HollerAtcherBoi

    @HollerAtcherBoi

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet the least valuable comment. Wasted opportunity

  • @ashwinniamat8560

    @ashwinniamat8560

    Жыл бұрын

    1 for the algo :D

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @AR7271
    @AR7271 Жыл бұрын

    I think you all just have too much money to spend.

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    Or maybe we do this for a living? And invest in the tools to make things better, the same tools other people not making money doing this say don't matter.

  • @AR7271

    @AR7271

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixbustv one sh1t post deserves another. But hey it's your money. If you want to spend it on diminishing returns, then have at it!

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    lol I saw your other comments, here's a piece of advice: don't comment on things you don't know or don't understand. It screams "I'm jealous" very loud. That includes "does it make your music play on air" Who said that even? You obvioulsy don't undertand profesionally mixing and mastering, or the industry, and have the home producer mindset, as you said, have at it and don't worry about what other people do, especially people who does this for a living. And here's another breaking news: promotion will get your music played on air, but if you think 3K for a converter is a lot, or pay a mix engineer is a lot, trust me you are not even CLOSE to have enough money for promotion so not even a miracle will do that for your music lol

  • @dna598
    @dna598 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think it's all getting a little silly now, with all this "converters are a mixing tool" stuff. If you want color, wire up some transformers in a tin?

  • @mixbustv

    @mixbustv

    Жыл бұрын

    Converters ARE a mixing tool. That's why we have different ones. Especially for mastering, having different AD's is a very normal thing

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