Do you need a leather bell skiver? - VLOG

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  • @whitandpark
    @whitandpark5 жыл бұрын

    What's the next machine you'd like to buy for your workshop??

  • @basteingandrubbing5822

    @basteingandrubbing5822

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mine would be my first machine, a sewing machine. Love yalls videos by the way.

  • @sdunca4864

    @sdunca4864

    5 жыл бұрын

    Buy??? Ha! How about going retro and refitting an old Singer treadle to DC servo and getting on it old school... Can't afford new!

  • @bzbcustoms4520

    @bzbcustoms4520

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stock & Barrel Co I am getting a couple 30" long arm Zigzag machines for canvas and tarp work

  • @thomasbeckett1245

    @thomasbeckett1245

    3 жыл бұрын

    Princess Auto is selling a thirty dollar grinder sharpener, normally fifty five dollars... sale till dec 23... so I’ve thought about it...I think that’s worthwhile.

  • @Kez_DXX

    @Kez_DXX

    7 ай бұрын

    It depends. Whatever machine I get will be my first. Probably a splitter if I can find one that won't break the bank. If I can't find a good one in my price range then i'll save up for a burnishing machine first.

  • @CHARTERMADE
    @CHARTERMADE5 жыл бұрын

    Having a splitter in my shop paid for itself really quickly as I was able to turn my heavier leather scraps into wallets and other smalls.

  • @fstremblaygoban
    @fstremblaygoban5 жыл бұрын

    OMG! Your channel and Chartermade are my favourite!!!

  • @NINJAROSE347

    @NINJAROSE347

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine too lol these guys they are AWESOME 😎

  • @gibbyswife9218
    @gibbyswife92183 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for posting this very informative video! I just love your Channel! Thank you, again!👍😊

  • @NINJAROSE347
    @NINJAROSE3473 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME YOU KNOW TERRICK! wishing I could afford he’s beautiful tools 🛠! one day I will 👍🏼 thanks for all your videos I’m new to leather making and your videos definitely help a lot! simple and to the point

  • @dmack1827
    @dmack18274 жыл бұрын

    Terek's knives are amazing.

  • @cocheeze69
    @cocheeze695 жыл бұрын

    good video and great suggestions! Thanks for sharing!

  • @whitandpark

    @whitandpark

    5 жыл бұрын

    Curt Ehrhart thanks Curt!

  • @allanpennington
    @allanpennington4 жыл бұрын

    The beauty of having high end machinery, especially a Juki walking foot is that you can control many settings. Having a walking foot means you don't have to have as much foot pressure to get even a thick piece of work through the machine. Also, whilst a narrow foot is good for turning work and getting into corners you have less cross sectional area at the work piece contact point and thus backing off the foot pressure is even more critical to avoid the line mark impressions you are getting. So where possible use a wider foot for flat sewing, teflon of you can get one and less pressure on the foot. Lastly, dry veg tan will take on moisture in a humid environment. You won't even notice it probably but as soon as there is moisture in the leather, as with casing, it will accept tooling marks. Even your finger nail will put a crease into the top surface. So maybe check where you store your work pieces prior to sewing them up and the humidity levels of your shop.

  • @yvetterodriguez3338
    @yvetterodriguez33384 жыл бұрын

    Hi there! What tool did you use to make the edge line on your work? 😊

  • @matthewsharp9395
    @matthewsharp93953 жыл бұрын

    Id like to see how the pumpkins turned out, They sounded cool

  • @lukewalteroconnor
    @lukewalteroconnor3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Parker if you didn’t have the bell skiver would you just skive by hand or what do you think you would use?

  • @hazrulrasidi8682
    @hazrulrasidi86825 жыл бұрын

    not only for edge skiving but also can use for make leather thiner.. .. used skiver mechine price around 200 or 250 usd ..

  • @motozulli
    @motozulli4 жыл бұрын

    Hey @Stock&BarrellCo ! Question for you: you say you'd buy a heavier-weight leather and split it down for wallets if you had a splitter. What's wrong with the kind of splitter you pull through? We just bought two C.S. Osbourne #84, but haven't really launched them yet. I'm wondering if we should bother? (for more context, I am the mechanic/machine person at Parsons school of Fashion, and we are building out our Accessories program, so all the users of these machines are amateurs)

  • @friscokid66
    @friscokid663 жыл бұрын

    How has your experience with non waxy veg tan leathers on the skiver machines. Some have said these machines do not really work well with veg tan

  • @younginsrus
    @younginsrus5 жыл бұрын

    Quick question. What’s the reason for painting the edges? My apologies (if it’s repetitive) for the question. Thanks and take care bud.

  • @joseluis7118
    @joseluis71183 жыл бұрын

    What do you use to paint edges? Just a regular marker or something?? (I'm starting out on leathercrafting)....

  • @umangu
    @umangu4 жыл бұрын

    How do you get by without a splitter?

  • @debbushee6970
    @debbushee69706 ай бұрын

    i just set mine up , but got one issue , my stone rolls backwards and i cant figure out why . skives great but it doesnt roll the right way . any ideas ??ty deb

  • @sunnyw4040
    @sunnyw40404 жыл бұрын

    Is the table cut out for the skiver the same as the hole for an industrial sewing machine?

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, it's a totally different shape

  • @younginsrus
    @younginsrus5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to bother. Quick question. The Cobra appears to be such a large splitter. In general, how would it have benefited you? Simply put... aside from splitting leather... how would you use the dang thing? 😁

  • @wedgetailleather
    @wedgetailleather5 жыл бұрын

    Wait... chartermade has a KZread channel???? Consider me subbed! As for the bell skiver vs splitter, I could find a tonne more uses for a splitter than a skiver. Getting the leather i want in the right weight is one of the biggest challenges down here. And for skiving, I've got a scharfix knockoff that goes alright.

  • @vickicade5399
    @vickicade53994 жыл бұрын

    Can I bevel my edges using the bell skiver?

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes, you can. You can angle both the foot and the roller stone (We have the Consew DCS-S4, so that's what I'm answering about)

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett12453 жыл бұрын

    Yes a bell skiver is totally 💯 percent awesome 😎

  • @whitandpark

    @whitandpark

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's a solid piece of equipment

  • @johndally7994
    @johndally79945 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the videos. I was told a bell Skiver doesn’t work on veg tan. Go figure. I want a cylinder arm sewing machine. I have a post bed because I want to make shoes (eventually). But I am selling as many wallets and bags as I can to earn enough to buy cylinder arm. I have a crank splitter that is great, an a five in one that is also great.

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    which model crank splitter do you use?

  • @johndally7994

    @johndally7994

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@motozulli It's an old Landis. It works great for splitting anything down to about 3 oz., but I haven't figured out how to tune it to split down to 1 or 2 oz. That might be a fool's errand anyway.

  • @nicholaskillmeier4895
    @nicholaskillmeier4895 Жыл бұрын

    I have a minty Landis model 30, and as well as I've tuned it and sharpened it, it will generally only work with 6oz or higher, and stripping that into anything thinner than 3/4 oz will "pullup" or mangle the leather significantly (i'm using horween dublin). If anyone can get a weaver or BG to take 4/5 to 2/3 consisintely, i'd love to see it, because that would be exceedingly useful for a wallet maker. I just don't think it's enough material for the machine to grab and push into the blade without making a mess of it. I got mine for a steal, and i used it to process a bunch of old 20oz chunks into 3/4 oz wallets and gave them to friends. Also it will absolutely not work with any type of soft leather (essex, vachettes, chrometans, etc). That's like feeding a sponge into your ink printer, bad things are gonna happen.

  • @debbushee6970
    @debbushee69706 ай бұрын

    looks just like mine

  • @henno_nel
    @henno_nel5 жыл бұрын

    Please do something with hair-on hides!

  • @squeezy99
    @squeezy994 жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking about a Bell Skiver for some time. I work with book-binders leather, preskived to 0.5-0.8mm thick. I need to skive the edge down to extremely thin. Is the Bell Skiver capable of skiving to this kind of level?

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have been able to, yes, and I am far from an expert. My success has depended on the leather though. A textured leather is not going to work (a student of mine tried to skive down snakeskin really thin and it just made a lot of holes). You'll also want to practice a LOT on cheaper skin so you get great at both skiving and sharpening the knife. We have the Consew DSC-4 and it's all right. With soft leathers especially we have some issues with the trimmed bits sticking to the roller stone and coming back up around and jamming up everything. I'm told a vacuum attachment would help (no idea where to get one) as would a finer-grained stone. Anyway, to your original question- I've successfully skived down skins so thin that I could see daylight through it. The holes from the pores made it look like...like I don't know, a very thin piece of leather full of tiny holes, haha. So your 0.5mm should be possible.

  • @nauxsi
    @nauxsi5 жыл бұрын

    If you get one in good condition for cheap - grab it.

  • @tenessentials
    @tenessentials5 жыл бұрын

    Why is it common practice to buy one weight of leather only to skive it down? It doesn’t seem coat affective. Why not buy specific weights for each part of the project? I understand why it’s important to skive an edge but not why one would skive the whole interior piece. I’m new to all of this 😬

  • @barbaravance6774

    @barbaravance6774

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have the same,question.

  • @yayaglass

    @yayaglass

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I had that same question when I started. My answer(s): Taking all pieces from the same hide means Color Control, when using Chrome Tan, etc. For turned (hemmed) edges, you have to skive down all of the area that is turned to able to turn it and reduce bulk since you're effectively doubling the leather there. I Skive by hand, I've learned to sharpen my Head Knife and Japanese Steel to better than razor sharp, however, I'd LOVE to have a Bell Skiver, since I use 1oz Sheepskin in my Bookbinding, can't be skived well by hand. Hope that helps!

  • @ciceromiguel3609
    @ciceromiguel36094 жыл бұрын

    Muito linda a tua filha

  • @dannylin5342
    @dannylin53424 жыл бұрын

    Cobra splitter is great for 3 oz and up. 2 oz... not great.

  • @roseleathercraftsph
    @roseleathercraftsph5 жыл бұрын

    Is this a family vlog episode or nah?

  • @staymad5685
    @staymad56855 жыл бұрын

    But you can split and skive on a bell skiver if you learn to master the machine but you cant do so on the class 14. I would say, yes! you need a bell skiver. I split on my bell skiver daily, its a magical tool

  • @barbaravance6774

    @barbaravance6774

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video of this? I'd love to see that. I'm debating the cost. But, if I could do both🤔?

  • @staymad5685

    @staymad5685

    5 жыл бұрын

    Barbara Vance I will messsge you

  • @staymad5685

    @staymad5685

    5 жыл бұрын

    Barbara Vance actually I have no clue how to message on here dm me on Instagram @halfmoonleather

  • @staymad5685

    @staymad5685

    5 жыл бұрын

    Barbara Vance here is a video I shot today imgur.com/a/IQnU30D

  • @barbaravance6774

    @barbaravance6774

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@staymad5685 Ok, I'll look you up.

  • @vernabohnert635
    @vernabohnert6353 жыл бұрын

    Can you make money making leather good?

  • @vernabohnert635

    @vernabohnert635

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, meant to say goods😀

  • @AdrianPaun
    @AdrianPaun5 жыл бұрын

    First of all that skiving machine was not intended to skive vegetable tanned leather, i've found that recently after i buy one :)) for splitting veg tan leather a splitter is best to use, but it will not skive. That machine was created for chrome tanned leather, veg tan will distroy the knive faster. Plus, a skiving machine can split the entire leather to get it thicker, just remove the distance knob and run the leather mutiple times and there you go, you'll have a splitter machine :)

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    But if it can only skive up to 2", what if you have a piece that is more than 4" wide?

  • @AdrianPaun

    @AdrianPaun

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@motozulli as i allready mention that "just remove the distance knob and run the leather mutiple times and there you go, you'll have a splitter machine"

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdrianPaun I'm sorry, I just wanted to clarify. So you do the whole thing in 2" strips? What size is the foot you use?

  • @hopeindirect4165
    @hopeindirect41654 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah well good video when I put on ma leather that I worked on, and rock to sum Metallica, Delta Parole, Foo Fighters or the Smashing Pumpkins I feel like I can do anything in the whole wide world.

  • @kymhocaluk5688
    @kymhocaluk56882 жыл бұрын

    ❤️🇨🇦

  • @FLQ309L
    @FLQ309L5 жыл бұрын

    I bought one for 300 bucks

  • @whitandpark

    @whitandpark

    5 жыл бұрын

    Feraud Quilens KILLER deal!

  • @FLQ309L

    @FLQ309L

    5 жыл бұрын

    Craigslist

  • @nauxsi

    @nauxsi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Super. I missed out on one last year. Haven't seen any at that price.

  • @barbaravance6774

    @barbaravance6774

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good deal!

  • @justinurra2718
    @justinurra27184 жыл бұрын

    Why would you not just use the skiver as a splitter 🤔🤔🤔 just take off the guide and run the whole panel through

  • @motozulli

    @motozulli

    4 жыл бұрын

    It will only work up to 2" (The DCS-S4, anyway), and the wider you go the more difficult it is to get an even skive. You could probably get good at it, but ultimately it's just not designed to do the same job as the splitter

  • @debbushee6970
    @debbushee69706 ай бұрын

    he handsome

  • @jakek584265
    @jakek5842654 жыл бұрын

    50% of this video is fluff, filler.

  • @eugene7752
    @eugene77525 жыл бұрын

    Oh my God. You talk too fast. I do not understand it all. I had to put the video slowly playing. I'm going to learn English ))

  • @whitandpark

    @whitandpark

    5 жыл бұрын

    haha sorry about that. I don't actually talk that fast, I sometimes speed the video up by 8% just to move through the looong talking parts a little quicker

  • @airnashville3883
    @airnashville38834 жыл бұрын

    Have you become a 100% content and web developer now? Seems like you're more interested in videography than leather working these days. You don't even say a word about the bell skiver until nearly halfway through the video.

  • @markedwards2005
    @markedwards20054 жыл бұрын

    too long to get to the point...got fed up, just saying.

  • @GreekoCanuck

    @GreekoCanuck

    4 жыл бұрын

    You realize it's a VLOG right...says so in the title...being chatty is the point...

  • @steveann6637
    @steveann66375 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, thumbs down. Came to learn about :bell skivers: and finally at 6 minutes in, you mention it. Stay in track! Lost a viewer. Peace out.

  • @whitandpark

    @whitandpark

    5 жыл бұрын

    Steve Ann haha see ya!

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