DrDisrespect's Insane Response | AE #12 ►kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5eOlLOwlLncnpM.html

@bulletn3ctar

2 күн бұрын

Love you, Steven. Be careful.

@NickKautz

2 күн бұрын

Whoever Destiny is talking to in the beginning is the worst. It seems like he's getting off trying to maximize the perceived severity of Dr. Disrespect's seemingly insignificant misconduct. It's ridiculous that an 80yr old rich dude banging 18yr olds is just a baller, and a 30yr old who messages a 17yr old is deserving of hateful group-think dogpile projection.

@bizzzzzzle

2 күн бұрын

Why link it like it’s a response to this? When it’s from before this stream?

@eavesdropper0

Күн бұрын

@@bulletn3ctar no dont be careful

@EpsteinYouTubeemployees

Күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Cry harder about being banned while you shill for pedos. 😂 SeanDaBlack was right.

You could tell me that Slasher has never known anything about this entire situation, and I would 100% believe you

@rogerfederer3817

2 күн бұрын

Complete hack immediately saying publishing a convo is against the law. Dude is all of a sudden a law expert, not to mention each state varies on their laws so vastly,. Im not a Dan fan but he actually bodied him.

@TNTspaz

2 күн бұрын

99% of the "journalists" that backed up Cody pretty much all just heard the rumors that Cody spread. They are all hacks. Even everything that Destiny heard is most likely all from Cody. They don't have sources. Even now. This is pretty much just all based on Cody's statements. As far as I'm aware. Most people are fine with that. Even though I'd personally like to hear something from twitch directly. Not from a well known spite driven former employee It's honestly why this whole situation is crazy to me. Doc himself is the only reason it actually gained any real credibility. This whole thing is really just a battle of perception. Whoever gets the most reactionaries on their side wins and Doc messed up bad. No one actually cares about evidence or being right. They more care about how they are perceived. Even stating all this is considered defending Doc. Due to how poor perception and the narrative is right now.

@WoodEe-zq6qv

2 күн бұрын

@@TNTspaz "the whole thing is really just a battle of perception" The dude admits openly to sexting with a minor wtf is the "perception" aspect.

@huuREG

2 күн бұрын

L 0 L

@zdubzz1280

2 күн бұрын

@@WoodEe-zq6qv I’m guessing he was referring to twitch not doc. The way things look now it seems that twitch handled this horribly and did nothing to stop future people from being victimized

Slasher is so easy to hate it’s unbelievable and he hasn’t learned a single thing since his vague posting ages ago. Pathetic

@SuperWeedPower

2 күн бұрын

he needs to learn when to shut his mouth

@asdasd-lf4xh

2 күн бұрын

I didn't know about slasher back during the original DOC ban. So I didn't have any preconcieved notion. But this guy coming back going "sorry I edged everyone in the past" let me "edge everyone now instead". Is definitely some kind of irony. Dude vague posted the same milisecond the info was leaked. Which according to him, himself, is exactly what he did wrong the first time? lmao, clownery xD

@hunzukunz

2 күн бұрын

he is just really stupid. he cant form a single proper sentence, or convey any of his thoughts at all

@Dmc10596

2 күн бұрын

This interview made me want to see the logs myself that’s how bad it was, I now don’t buy any what he has to report

@bazooka712

2 күн бұрын

Journalism ephebophile

everything slasher has said about the evidence just makes him and twitch look so bad. if it was reported and was factually correct then why are there no criminal investigations and charges till now? something is not right with this story and the reporting

@ClaudelGFX

2 күн бұрын

you can't charge anyone for catfishing

@howdareyou41

2 күн бұрын

because nothing done was illegal? an no prosecutor in their right mind would press charges for this. you can break TOS without breaking the law.

@mariomario1462

2 күн бұрын

Why would there be?? Who was abused? All parties consented

@ClaudelGFX

2 күн бұрын

@@howdareyou41 like i've said, by now i'm 75% sure that drdisrespect was prolly catfished by someone pretending to be a minor, that explains why twitch paid him in full, also why there are no charges, no names, but also why people are coming out with things now, NDA might have expired and like you said, drdisrespect got banned because of his behavior was against ToS even if, obv he didn't break the law since it was basicly catfishing/roleplaying

@kleeklee4572

2 күн бұрын

Lol I know! And I was totally on their side. This dude is a fool! I don’t trust him at ALL lol!

The problem with these online “Journalists” is that they have no clue what the legal and ethical framework is they are operating in. I’m shocked somebody can be this confused about the rules their job operates under

@itzgin3290

2 күн бұрын

Imagine if Richard Lewis was in this space back then, it'd take a bit of time to get all his ducks in order but he'd have had out a report WAY before Doc even got the ban, and even if not before, shortly after the ban. Because he does actual good work whereas these guys are just there for clout only.

@mattdobson7598

2 күн бұрын

What do you mean?

@damedusa5107

2 күн бұрын

I’m what way? Explain

@bigpoppalarry6825

2 күн бұрын

Slasher seemed so lost in this conversation. Like he's paddling around just trying to fit in. Saying a lot without saying anything at all

@Lip_Gallagher

2 күн бұрын

@@mattdobson7598 he literally explained what he meant

This guy is not a journalist. He's delusional. Full stop.

@x-xPhobia

2 күн бұрын

No shit lmao. Literally protecting a huge corporation AND a pedo lmao. There's no way he's this naive or thinks people are this stupid. I've worked on a couple cases that were worse than this. You absolutely have the moral and legal imperative to report this. All private messages belong to the platform. You redact identifying information and resources lease the logs. Even if the arbitrator said "you cannot publish the logs" arbitrations can be brought to court. The reason they did the arbitration was so this never became a matter of record.

@kaiserkhan2916

2 күн бұрын

I say he's not one due to him defying his own journalistic principles. A journalist should be brave in the face of pushback, scrutiny, or even litigation regarding their reporting. Journalists are to act without fear in publishing the truth, and it was clear Slasher was far more concerned with his image than reporting the truth.

@Majorwindy

2 күн бұрын

When he was asked why didn’t he leak the full details anonymously, he went dead silent. No clout to be gained there so he didn’t do it

@lessQQmorepewpeww

2 күн бұрын

​@@x-xPhobiayeah, but he never had the logs or even screenshots right? It was just heresay at best. I certainly wouldn't run a story based on only second hand sources, zero documentation, and people who wouldn't go on the record. I understand having chat logs and not giving up your source, but he literally just had word of mouth. Not like you can say, oh the doc has a poop fetish and wears diapers according to my source who wishes to remain anonymous and suddenly be granted legal protection against a defamation suit. Not only would he be liable for defamation, but he's also risking journalistic integrity by running a hit piece he himself never corroborated. It's also great having hindsight and saying what we would've done in his shoes, but I'm not risking my neck and my family's well being to protect any other person.

@HRRRRRDRRRRR

Күн бұрын

Imagine being such a spineless sponge that you mirror Dan, of all people...

I came out of this conversation with a worse opinion of Slasher than Dr. Disrespect which is wild given the circumstances

@whatoh3407

2 күн бұрын

Lol sure is wild.

@atetraxx

2 күн бұрын

That's is pretty wild. And very suspect of your character.

@TheDwarburton

2 күн бұрын

​@@atetraxx Not really. Plenty of bad comments about slasher

@x3naurus

2 күн бұрын

Pretty incomparable to what Dr. Disrespect has done. You both need to reanalyze the situation ​@TheDwarburton

@TheDwarburton

2 күн бұрын

@@x3naurus Well the situation is there's an internet video related to 2 individuals on the other side of the planet. It's nothing more than content to me way over here!

Slasher doesnt care at all, he is only using this as a way to regain some of his clout so desperate. Such a creep.

@MarcoThePHX

2 күн бұрын

He wanted a date with a girl to get her a spot on a team

@Trancer006

2 күн бұрын

He's going on a clout tour right now, he first talked to Hasan about this and now destiny...

@mvprime8

2 күн бұрын

@@Trancer006 I mean Destiny asked him to come on... not the other way around.

@libre1245

2 күн бұрын

@@Trancer006 and don't forget, he gave false information about doc being arrested which proved wrong later.

@MavethTheReaper

2 күн бұрын

​@@libre1245 Doc admitted his actions so irrelevant

slasher realizing that the only thing that made him interesting got released... now he just trying to stay relevant... "guys i know more info!! guys!! guys pay attention to me!"

@AsTheySawit_History

2 күн бұрын

Considering he sat on the knowledge for 3 years and is a writer for Rolling Stone, this is a dumb take.

@DarkDule1234

2 күн бұрын

What do you mean? For several years now he has been told from credible sources the reason DrDisresepct has been banned. however due to the importance and sensitivity around the subject he has refrained from going on it. he don't feel comfortable with it for the past four years

@KnightOfTheWired

2 күн бұрын

​@@DarkDule1234even after releasing it he's still trying to milk it.

@risboel17

2 күн бұрын

@@DarkDule1234 yeah thats why he joked around with his friend about it and had a super vague tweet. Dude is just out for fame thats all, he doesnt care if doc had 1000 victims or 1 that was 3 days from being 18.

@mvprime8

2 күн бұрын

@@risboel17 Doc defenders trying to not switch blame to everyone else on the planet challenge, level impossible.

The "Endangering the victim" argument is defeated if you remove all identifying info in the message log. So it's irrelevant.

@ekoyal_gemu4446

Күн бұрын

We don't even know the age or gender of the person

@psychedeliccyclistrn3111

12 сағат бұрын

It was a 3 year old demi-queer​@@ekoyal_gemu4446

slasher is the ultimate vague poster "insider" and this conversation so far is just his tweet from 2020 writ large, every thing he says tries to gesture at hidden wells of knowledge he doesn't possess, tries to make people think he's smart, convince them he's important. i actually can't believe this guy is a journalist. or is this what they're all like? like he can't even say "I don't know about any other reports" until he gets pressed. he keeps saying "there may be other reports.." or "there are laws about this.." lil bro it's ok to say "I don't know". I don't think he even knows the person's age when destiny asks and he's silent for 30 seconds, he's just thinking about whether or not he can get away with lying that he does.

@4of20

2 күн бұрын

he is a journalist just as much as you are, any of these shit ass companies will take your article and pay you for the clicks

@JR-wf5kg

2 күн бұрын

Have you been in a coma for the last 10+ years. There's a reason most people hate journalists and the MSM. 😂

@teratoidmaple

2 күн бұрын

You literally have no idea what information he has, talking straight out of your ass rn.

@nerdSlayerstudioss

2 күн бұрын

He used to do this in the OW pro scene when it was starting up too, and since he was shit at the game he would literally (non ironically) challenge people e-peen wise in Quake 0.32 to regain his glory. His insider information comes from who he knows, or rather...USED to know at this point. I think he has value, but it's hidden in a spew of shit.

@vortex_1336

2 күн бұрын

I think he didn't want to actually say the age because it's probably like 17 and 10 months. He wants to be vague so it sounds worse.

Slasher literally just pretends he knows more than he actually does, just to get clout.

@CurdBros

2 күн бұрын

That is definitely possible. He may also be trying to be super careful given the sensitivity and possible repercussions.

@m.j.e.5245

2 күн бұрын

Bro actually said "illegalness"

@AnimosityIncarnate

2 күн бұрын

Isn't that destiny tho 😭

@Whymakemesignuptothiswebsite

2 күн бұрын

@@CurdBros that’s absolute rubbish he is just grifting and trying to make this story last as long as possible because it’s been the only time he is relevant. He could go ahead with everything about the messages but he just doesn’t know so he is trying to be as vague as possible so no one can hold him to anything he has said.

@nonyabisness6306

2 күн бұрын

@@CurdBros the only thing he's carefull about is his bottom line.

This is what Dan was trying to say; even if in the logs Doc knew this was a minor, why did Doc not just lie in his statement and say he did not know this was a minor? Because the only thing that could refute that lie are the logs themselves. So unless they were about to drop, Doc could’ve just lied to salvage his career. Instead he totally fessed up as if to beat the logs dropping, because if he lies and they drop his reputation would be even worse than it is now.

@cady__

2 күн бұрын

I believe this all came up because people with the info were threatening to leak it and doc knew he couldnt lie. I do think the logs will come out

@libre1245

2 күн бұрын

OR his NDA preventing him for stating if he knew or not because will make Twitch look worse than Doc.

@beane6426

2 күн бұрын

@@libre1245​​⁠You think a person would admit to talking inappropriately with minors because of an NDA? In what world does that make sense?

@libre1245

2 күн бұрын

@@beane6426 we don't know what he can talk for or what not. This is the nature of NDA's

@banhammer3904

2 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter how he responds. The damage is already done. This is modern warfare. Wild accusations without the ability to get a fair shake.

"Do you know if the underage person was younger than 17?" "I.... uh......... hmm........ errr....... uhhhhhhhhhh......... have no comment..." un-fucking-believable

@Thighsupremacy9909

2 күн бұрын

The number of "I don't know" bombshell this "journalist" drop is wild!

@zdubzz1280

2 күн бұрын

He was debating in his mind wether he could get away with lying

@Murderbits

Күн бұрын

I'm not sure why Destiny asked if she was under 17 -- 16 is also legal in most places. AoC in Canada is 16. In America, it's 16 in most places, 17 in some, and then 18 in only 13 states. (and it's 15 and 16 in almost all western civilization). If the person was below the age of consent, THEN FUCKING SAY SO. Until then, they just sound like a bunch of twats trying to make it sound as bad as humanly possible by using the language "minor" instead of "17" or "16". Because when you just say "minor", people can draw instant conclusions that it must have been a thirteen year old or something. It's scummy. Of course, if he DID try to mess around with someone who was under 16 then that's completely different. But the fact that NOBODY will say that is incredibly fucking noticeable, in my opinion.

@matsab7930

19 сағат бұрын

@@zdubzz1280’how much worse do I look for not publishing something 5 years ago if it turns out she’s 16? 15? 12? Nah, I’m not taking the risk’

Calling Slasher a reporter is like calling Donald Trump a Hero.

@smarazza

2 күн бұрын

Both things are true

@harrybellingham98

2 күн бұрын

@@smarazza only the trump one

@ewfwjoe

2 күн бұрын

So both true and based i agree

@fffx2

2 күн бұрын

Trump IS a hero though

@ummidk7030

2 күн бұрын

Not just a hero our savior praise the tinted lord

guy openly admitting that he would allow children to get sexually abused because hes scared of getting sued. damn. thats real integrity right there lol.

@joeshmoe4207

Күн бұрын

That is not what he said. He said that the responsibility for the potential of possible future victims is not his responsibility. And getting sued by one of the largest companies in America can literally ruin his life.

@ridezko

Күн бұрын

​@@joeshmoe4207You just said the same thing?

@nmc400

Күн бұрын

@@joeshmoe4207 you litterally just repeaeted what he said. He cared for his career more than his integrity.

@jn8909

13 сағат бұрын

Eh its more like would you take a massive risk to lose your entire life, career, and probably any money you have getting sued by a mega corp, to save any future victims (which probably isnt guaranteed and probably isnt likely to happen since doc is probably going to be very cautious). If it was known that the doc was LIKELY to have future victims it would be a different story. I think most people would do the same. Dealing with expensive ass lawyers is no joke

@fdajax5107

5 сағат бұрын

​@@joeshmoe4207 actions are louder than words man, Doc was active for 7 years when slasher could've reported it at the start

Slasher sounds like he knows fucking nothing. He spends so much time saying almost nothing new, he doesn't even sound confident asserting what he does.. This was his chance if he had actual information to come forward and redeem himself and he sounds as flaky as always.

@Majorwindy

2 күн бұрын

As soon as he said “news agencies never report on private messages” I knew the guy is a fool.

he talked a lot for not really saying anything.

Geeze “I have direct sources to the twitch whisper chats” “How old was the victim” “I have no idea”

@michaelh878

Күн бұрын

He said he would not comment not he didn't know. Try listening better.

@Murderbits

Күн бұрын

@@michaelh878 Of course he won't comment. Because if the person was 16 or 17, there is no story, here. By saying "it was a minor" without a specific age, we all can assume it was someone who was under the age of consent. We can assume "oh man, he was trying to diddle a toddler" for all that matters. But if the person is of legal age, then saying that eliminates the impact of the story. It is the ONLY reason I can see for EVERYONE involved REFUSING to state the age. I mean, even the former employee was happy to leak the thing but REFUSED to say the age. The entire thing PIVOTS on that. And nobody will say anything.

@Dismuth

22 сағат бұрын

@@michaelh878 uhhh. errr.... eh.... no comment. This guy is a reporter right? He can't just say he heard it was 17 or something? He obviously has no idea what he's talking about.

@OrbiTiZZeD

11 сағат бұрын

Then he should f off if he isn't going to talk about stuff. what's the point of talking to this guy ?​@@michaelh878

Destiny got him. Just release the logs, they can easily black out personal information. There would be less conspiracy theories if Twitch was transparent.

Slasher saying the same shit over and over and over and fucking over again. Goddamn. [EDIT] Actually, I take it back. He's saying NOTHING and trying to get famous from it. Jesus.

@Thighsupremacy9909

2 күн бұрын

First 15 min I already got this impression like wat

@nonyabisness6306

2 күн бұрын

if this is the quality of the accusers Dr. Disrespect is 100% innocent.

Slasher: "Twitch did a really good job"... good job at covering it up, yes. Why would that be a positive?

@leonslaw5722

2 күн бұрын

Exactly. That is an unhinged thing to say.

@vortex_1336

2 күн бұрын

I would make an educated guess that he has some sort of partnership or relationship with Twitch.

@39bailey

2 күн бұрын

He thinks its a positive because it “keeps the minors identity hidden”….except their identity never needed to be exposed for the story to be released.

@backwardsbandit8094

2 күн бұрын

It's not a fucking tech company's job, especially not an employers job, to air out what is essentially dirty laundry to the public. You let them go, notify the cops if you need to and you're probably within your right to notify other companies.

@Dismuth

22 сағат бұрын

@@backwardsbandit8094 And let them run away to another company and exploit minors.

Cybersecurity guy here. Dan makes a claim at 1:32:00 that is half correct. A sysafmin could definitely explain the data, but there are logs auditing every action of your users, including users with elevated privileges. Even trying to delete those logs would create sprayed logs so no matter what it would be attributed to you (deleting logs is one of the biggest red flags in all of cybersecurity)

@Murderbits

Күн бұрын

You're assuming an awful lot of Twitch's admins in assuming they have that degree of security and system auditing measures. As someone who has worked with eh sys-admins of nearly every Fortune 500 company over the last 30 years on mission-critical systems, I can assure you that sysadmins who are on-the-ball are far less common than one would hope.

Slasher is such a fraud. Dude wants to be a journalist so bad but lacks the integrity to be more than a games journo.

@TyrianHaze

Күн бұрын

Was Dan trying to say this indirectly at the end when telling him to be more like a fraud journalist in a tv show.(the wire I think)

@Olter_

Күн бұрын

@@TyrianHaze Nothing was stopping Slasher from digging further and finding someone at twitch that was willing to go on record. Yet he did none of that. He is a total fraud.

@joeshmoe4207

Күн бұрын

@@Olter_nobody was willing to go on record, do you think they didn’t want to break the story with a source if they could have?

@Olter_

Күн бұрын

@@joeshmoe4207 Nobody that he talked with was willing to go on record. He talked a with a couple people who knew but the real number undoubtedly was much higher

@FJaypewpew

22 сағат бұрын

He falls back on “I cannot personally say anything about ….” Like fuck dude we’re not asking about personally you’re supposed to know things about this but somehow you revealing anything is going to hinder an investigation that has already happened??? What

So there were messages sent back and forth in 2017 and we still haven't seen those logs? Man that has to be a new record.

Slasher is a coward. Everything he says in this video is post-hoc justification of his cowardice 5 years ago. If your concern is for victims, maybe you should do your job as a journalist so the news breaks and he cannot go on for half a decade potentially making new ones. If he was as certain about the claims being true back then as he says he was in this video, he was simply too weak to take the risk. This video combined with the newest one on last night on destiny confirms the type of person slasher is. Risk-averse, generally cowardly, confrontation-avoidant and willing to say whatever he believes another person wants to hear. His past behaviour is entirely unsurprising.

the thing that just doesn't add up for me still is the inbalance between "it was so bad that it can't be made public" and "authorities were involved but no conviction happened". reeks of bs and trying to control how this is perceived. there have been so many public cases of celeb creeps. i have never seen this much vague shit ever. somethinbg is off. the cat is out of the bag. twitch not describing in detail what happened makes ZERO sense. you can easily describe the logs in detail. no need to leak them

@novac1990

2 күн бұрын

"it was so bad that it can't be made public" I don't think that's his argument. His argument is to "protect the victim". It still does not make much sense because the released logs could easily shield her from any identifying information. This whole thing seems very off. They cared enough to protect the victim but not enough to try and protect future victims by getting the word out. I can see the company trying to cover it up to save there rep. But any moral answer the employees or journalist give for not "raising awarness of a child predator" is crazy to me. Especially because these folks are likely ones screaming for social justice on social media for situations similar to this that involve other people. Especially because there was other ways the journalists could have leaked this that would have kept the anonymity of themselves and the victim safe. I have a feeling these folks would not give the nuance there asking for to anyone else's justification for not leaking or coming forward in a situation like this

@aweshumandy

2 күн бұрын

​@@novac1990the logs would never be released or probably even viewed by journalists. no way they want to leak internal tools and processes, thats an additional element and charge outside of just the information. the primary source in documentation is likely official correspondence outlining what happened by first hand accounts.

@libre1245

2 күн бұрын

what makes me wonder is, Nobody saw the real logs, everything is hearsay from some ex-twitch employees(if they even are real), by that point why the fuck we can't trust the protonmail email which is literally the same case by an ex-twitch employee who had direct involvement with the case. Both unverified so why?.

@aweshumandy

2 күн бұрын

@@libre1245 you do not understand hearsay. internal communication by people who saw the logs is firsthand testimony. you do not need to see the logs. their summarization is enough to be considered reliable. anonymous sources are anonymous to the public, not to Rolling Stone. just google "How Rolling Stone Uses Anonymous Sources In Our Reporting" to understand their methods. reality is these details could not be confirmed until there was primary sourcing and not just rumor or secondary sourcing: "kicked off the platform in 2020 for allegedly sexting a minor through a messaging feature called Whispers, even after learning she was underage. He also allegedly inquired about her plans to attend TwitchCon, the company’s semi-annual gaming convention." note how its clear that he: 1) sexted a minor, not just communicated with them "inappropriately" 2) learned she was underage and still communicated as well as sexted 3) asked about her plans for TwitchCon this is a distinct difference from the original allegation on Twitter but not enough for reasonable people to really find a difference in principle: "He got banned because got caught sexting a minor in the then existing Twitch whispers product. He was trying to meet up with her at TwitchCon." so while the original accusation was right in what he did and through what method, he did not include the important distinction that he knew she was a minor and was wrong in that he technically did try not to meet up with her at TwitchCon. the fact must be that he asked about her plans, maybe mentioned his plans, but never technically tried to meet with her. so like "what you doing tonight?" rather than "can I meet you tonight?" as not all inquiries can be considered a direct ask. plenty of booty calls around the world start with an indirect ask but can reasonably be assumed to be a booty call based on context. tldr; primary sourcing is not hearsay, hearsay is secondary sourcing. IIRC that protonmail screenshot was alleged to be an employee, but it was never attributed to anyone. meaning there was no skin in the game for the claim. you were trusting whoever reported on that originally which I never found, meaning no one was staking their reputation on it and thus providing a source for accountability granted the document wasn't real. you do not understand what "unverified" means, just bc you a member of the public doesn't know about it, doesn't mean it is unverified. all anonymous sources in the publications are not anonymous to the publication, just to the public. the journalists and publications are following a process and staking their reputation on the articles, something not at all done with the protonmail screenshot. google "How Rolling Stone Uses Anonymous Sources In Our Reporting" to understand how Rolling Stone follows this process.

@nonyabisness6306

2 күн бұрын

literally "trust me bro" We have not a single person with first hand knowledge that is willing to put their name on accusations. These are all second or third-hand accusations by anonymous people.

"If you dont trust journalists, then your always going to have these questions...." yes... thats is exactly the problem is too many "journalist" have abused their position and resulted to "just trust me bro" for anonymous sources and turned out to be completely untrue because we have to trust in your judgement as to weather or not your source is creditable even though we have no way of judging that exteriorly to yourself. A great example of this recently is Nick Calandra from Second Wind, he was so thirsty for a story against Grumz that he ran with an anonymous source which turned out to be one of Grummz supporters just messing with him, weather you like or hate Grummz this proved Nick Calandra to be an untrustworthy source because he doesn't verify his sources well enough, which raises the question does Slasher? and the truth is we have no idea because they are anonymous which is basically a "just trust me bro" moment witch could turn out to be a "my source is i made it the fuck up" moment. I will always say it is okay for journalist to use anonymous sources but only for investigation, once it comes to reporting everything needs to be held to its actual source or else it is effectively unsourced for the readers.

The absolute refusal to even release the person's age tells me the "journalist" in question has no credibility. The reason they don't want to release the age is because EITHER the Doc was chatting up a young adult who was nearly 18 and this becomes a huge nothing burger, or because the victim was MUCH younger, and it makes Twitch look REALLY bad that they helped Doc cover it up for four years. That's it. Those are the only two reasons they would have for not just saying how old the victim was.

@trehairston1840

2 күн бұрын

Could twitch not have reached out to the minor and their parents and established an agreement that they wouldn’t post her information to protect her identity? Also almost legal is still not legal, I don’t know how you can call knowingly chatting with a minor inappropriately a nothing burger especially when their age gap isn’t something that’s like high school freshman and junior? Why are you trying so hard to put focus on everyone but the actual pedophile

@rexsauce

2 күн бұрын

They didn’t cover it up. 2020 was when the victim came forward

@mvprime8

2 күн бұрын

I can easily imagine another reason. He can't leak personal information about the victim, so far no official source has stated the age of the victim. That's one way to guarantee a lawsuit.

@ispear6337

2 күн бұрын

@@rexsauce No one came forward. Twitch found out by reading his dms.

@trehairston1840

2 күн бұрын

@@kevinwalter2674 also why didn’t the parents get involved? Or maybe they did? If the conversations were just that, “conversations that leaned inappropriately” and the family came forward and didn’t want the girls life to be tied n ruined bc of this they could have reached an agreement with twitch. I mean look at nickmercs stream people are attacking the girl saying she is a man put there by liberal agenda. These people are oppressive and would have been to her if info came out at the time.

I'm with Destiny on this one. I need more info. My gut tells me it's not good, but you can't make an assessment without the details

@LucefieD

2 күн бұрын

yeah, doc openly admitted it himself so clearly it happened. But at the same time NO ONE that dropped doc has actually seen any evidence. None. Such a weird situation. I think it's a twitch cover up and unfortunately doc probably said some fucked up stuff.

@mariomario1462

2 күн бұрын

How is it not good?

@BlakeSparta

2 күн бұрын

​@mariomario1462 he is probably bandwagoning on penguin0, someordinary gamer, and others. People can't think for themselves.

@skipS899

2 күн бұрын

​@@mariomario1462 generally, grown men with fame and money message minors sexually isn't good

@robertterrell7057

2 күн бұрын

​@@BlakeSparta anybody who says shit like "can't think for themselves" is a guaranteed sheep guys lol

Slasher is somehow making himself easier to hate than the Doc

@yin3229

2 күн бұрын

Bit of a reach. Slasher comes across as an idiot, Doc's tweets make him come across as a full on predator.

@XisoLate

Күн бұрын

Massive reach

@Joshua-gc4ps

Күн бұрын

It’s not a reach it’s a very obvious exaggeration for comedic purposes.

@alion4574

Күн бұрын

​@@Joshua-gc4psPro-PDF jokes...yeah bud that's something you don't ever want to see in written form

@Joshua-gc4ps

Күн бұрын

?

Release slasher's dm's

slasher's such a clown he's desperately trying to be in this conversation whilst providing no extra information, he's provided no legitimate value to this entire situation & if anything he's just muddying the waters, his connections or previous connections at twitch are not useful because they refuse to even provide any sort of source whatsoever & slasher's own lack of journalistic integrity (or whatever remains of his actual capability within that field) speaks volumes as to how little he ACTUALLY cares about this situation

I really feel Slasher is hiding that she is 17

@eiontactics9056

Күн бұрын

I think you just solved the case! Slasher was the minor that texted Doc

Ah yes, the Lander University guidelines to number of sources. Not the AP Style Guide that every real journalist has at their desk.

I’m surprised by the takes in these comments regarding slasher. I think you can criticize twitch for not saying anything. If Slasher had just gone out and said what was basically a rumor (he’d have been talking about logs he hasn’t seen), none of you would have believed him anyways without evidence. The things he knew were based on evidence that Twitch was in no hurry to put out there because it makes them look really bad, if doc sued him or just denied it they obviously wouldn’t be in a hurry to vouch for him, if they wouldn’t be also suing him.

Here's the part that confuses me. If he was KNOWINGLY sending explicit messages to a minor, why the hell did Twitch paybout his contract and agree to an NDA? They had a slam dunk case against him.

@Anonymous-ks8el

2 күн бұрын

Payout and NDA is water under the bridge, Twitch can walk away without any drama or headaches

@Originalchili

2 күн бұрын

Who knows, avoid publicity all together? Maybe not open thr can of worms that was how easy minors can lie on their twitch whispers, I have no idea tho

@Armlace

2 күн бұрын

Their contract terms were prob bad and didn't cover that. The NDA makes no sense on Twitch's side, besides just covering it up to avoid a scandal

@CoolHandLuke196

2 күн бұрын

probably didn't want everyone to know twitch was reading their DMs

@DrunkNugget

2 күн бұрын

@@CoolHandLuke196^

you shouldn't want to see the logs has my bullshit meter red lining

@TyrianHaze

Күн бұрын

"It's illegal to release logs of someone sexually exploiting someone...over text. " 🤡

slasher is in the dictionary as a psuedo intellectual. just talking out the side of his fucking mouth the entire time.

Tryna stand on "protect the victim" even after making it impossible to identy them just makes this sound so suspicious

Fun fact, shortly after this Slasher claimed Dr. Disrespect was arrested and then had to walk it back

Doc docked his career, and slasher slashed his career. Everything in its right place?

Hearing Dan question Slasher is giving me flashbacks to being 8 years old and my Jewish banking exec dad interrogating me for hours about how and why my bike could have been stolen.

@ploob-ie

2 күн бұрын

How did it get stolen 🤔

@braydenwarren3233

Күн бұрын

He hit it with his space Lazer to teach you a lesson about responsibility.

I don’t understand how there can be a victim if no crime was committed…

@GERBOY90

Күн бұрын

Isn’t the age of consent 16 in America?

@oystersquadmilk7757

Күн бұрын

So slaves weren't victims because holding them in slavery wasn't a crime before 1865?

@Nirvashicus

Күн бұрын

@@GERBOY90 There's 50 states and each state has their own number. It's 16-18 depending on where you are. There might even be a 15 or 14 floating in there. But despite that we largely consider 18 to be the "real" age of consent, especially if someone travels across state lines and does something on the edge.

@cisafrulli

6 сағат бұрын

​@@GERBOY9018 were Doc lives

Also to double dip on comments. To pull out my journalism experience of around 2 ish years now, and recently graduating with a degree in this, and working on a Grad degree in Journalism. You only need one Primary source for a story, hell in most stories you really only need maybe one source total. Its nice to have multiple sources, but there is no hard and fast rule on the number of sources. This is the case as primary sources at times can be rather unreliable, especially when tackling institutions and companies. These agencies are more likely to be insular and protective of themselves, so you can't always rely upon them to out themselves of something they are attempting to sweep under the rug. In this case, multiple secondary sources can suffice in some instances where primary sources decline to comment. The only thing you'd need to do your journalistic due diligence is to clarify that, there was an attempt to reach out for comment, but a comment was never given. Sometimes even that, the declining to comment alone can add validity to the story/narritive that Twitch is attempting to sweep this under the rug. Again Slasher is just a spineless coward, not a liar. Never once did he lie about anything, he was just too much of a pussy to be a real journalist, and couch their langauge/hedge their statements regarding the story they should of published those years ago or whenever this happened/went down.

Slasher needs a new mic. His voice sounds like a cheese grater on a walkie talkie

@howdareyou41

2 күн бұрын

I thought this was that dan guy until I read this comment

@meltedWax169

2 күн бұрын

​@@howdareyou41yeah dan's higher pitched ngl or softer

@sendave860

2 күн бұрын

He's mic has been shit for years 😢

@asdasdfaf7827

Күн бұрын

​@@sendave860it's not the mic, it's him lacking the knowledge to correct his mic. It's like when people buy cond mics without knowing how to use them. Alot of people would be better off with plugnplay mics.

the more i hear people who supposedly know what happened talk about this the vaguer it gets. you don't have to release the logs. you can just describe them and what exactly made things problematic. i smell a lot of carefully trying to control the narrative and people's perception

@missingdiamond6676

2 күн бұрын

Releasing the logs would still help the credibility a lot more.

@spencerrichmond5845

2 күн бұрын

Yeah imo doc is just the tip of the iceberg. There is most likely a lot of this behavior that goes unchecked and looked past

@toxicgracie3772

2 күн бұрын

​​@@missingdiamond6676 Releasing the logs will help EVERYONE see how bad or not bad this is. It could be the difference between Doc having to drop off the face of the Earth or actually being able to continue his streaming career. But I doubt the logs will ever get leaked unless someone on the inside does it recklessly. Because at this point, the damage is done and Doc's career is over. So if they leak, it would most likely be to prove Doc wasn't doing shit as bad as people are assuming. That's just my take atleast.

@aweshumandy

2 күн бұрын

"after independently reviewing internal Twitch communications and interviewing a source with knowledge of the situation, Rolling Stone" this is the confirmation of the details, we'll likely never get the logs or even the details of the logs. this is as official a summarization you can get without Twitch doing it themselves (which they arent going to Rolling Stone denying it). I mean you'd need to disregard Rolling Stone as a publication providing them with no credibility as an outlet but they very much confirmed the descriptions of what occurred. this is why the sexting and knowing age element is confirmed but whether he made plans to meet her were not. if you were gonna lie as a publication you'd confirm he made plans to meet rather than just ask and talk about their own plans. "kicked off the platform in 2020 for allegedly sexting a minor through a messaging feature called Whispers, even after learning she was underage. He also allegedly inquired about her plans to attend TwitchCon, the company’s semi-annual gaming convention."

@toxicgracie3772

2 күн бұрын

@@aweshumandy Honestly Andy, Rolling Stone could just be going off of nonsense as well. Most, and I mean MOST journalists nowadays are narrative driven and are biased. They're also hired that way and used that way. So take what you read on the Internet with a grain of salt, even if it's from a "trusted source". As of now we're still lacking enough evidence or proof and just trusting hearsay from journalists or "insiders".

I genuinely don't know how this conversation went on for so long. If I was in this discord call I would've left after 20 minutes tops.

Honestly fits Twitch’s values

@user-qg4dl7qg8j

2 күн бұрын

Coomer CEO and Groomer Streamers; but terrorists and socialists are OK

What platform does destiny stream on?

@EpicFaCe441

2 күн бұрын

KZread and I think kick

Never heard anybody misunderstanding each other this much before

Slasher: Im a real journalist guy trust me , im not a loser

a journalist saying you shouldn't look too deep into it. smh.

@eiontactics9056

Күн бұрын

Yep. He is part of the delusional political party, and he probably voted for Biden.

Hearing him throw out terms without understanding them is killing my brain cells. He said that this case (messaging a minor) was assault. He also called the guy he talked to a "primary source" even though all of it was done over DMs. There's almost no way that guy witnessed the conversation happening in real time. How does a 'journalist' not understand any of the terms he's using?

I would still rather be in company with Doctor than Slasher, that guy is a snake and is here just to push himself as a "journalist" expert. He said a lot of things that mean nothing, this stream without him would have been the same.

Dan is a silly billy. But yeah slasher should of said something. If they "cared about kids" they would of did it

Too bad it wasn't Richard Lewis getting the leak or someone else who is a serious reporter. You can't trust Slasher on one hand because of his lack of knowledge on another lack of integrity. The way he talks about Twitch in this whole segment seems like he just wants to stay on their good side. That shouldn't be a priority for a serious reporter.

@francisxavier8374

2 күн бұрын

if slasher lacked integrity this story wouldve been plastered across the internet 4 years ago

@itzgin3290

2 күн бұрын

Exactly, RL doesn't care that much, as long as the truth is put out, accurately of course.

@deleted5460

2 күн бұрын

@@francisxavier8374Ahh so someone knowingly withholding information about someone having sexual conversations with a minor has integrity? Seems like it would be the opposite lol.

@jeremias-serus

2 күн бұрын

@@francisxavier8374integrity goes in both directions pal

@chpgmr1372

2 күн бұрын

@@deleted5460 that or he literally has no actual information.

Wish we had other reporters with spine instead of guys like Slasher who let the Dr. have a career for 3 so many extra years

If you can go "on the record" without having to have anything that you've said attributed to you, then what's the f*cking point? Can't someone just make sh*t up "on the record" and then remain anonymous and never have to back it up with proof or get penalized for lying if proven otherwise?

Imagine calling yourself "Slasher" unironically.

@bacchus1406

2 күн бұрын

Same argument people make about the name "Destiny"?

@howdareyou41

2 күн бұрын

I mean we're discussing this with Destiny and Dr Disrrespect

@Lithenius

2 күн бұрын

@@bacchus1406 Yeah that's the joke.

@meltedWax169

2 күн бұрын

Slasher was my first toon in SWTOR. I have since changed his name.

@thefudgejudge6962

2 күн бұрын

@@bacchus1406destiny is far more acceptable. slasher sounds like the name of a transformer while Destiny is the name of an adult dance technician

this is how i imagine every redditlord talks

So who is slasher?

Everyone out here thinking they studied 10 yrs of law

I had no opinion on this journalist guy before but I definitely don't like him now, what an absolute goof

Dan/Slasher: Twitch kept it under wraps to protect the victim. Everyone else with a brain: Twitch protected a predator that would later move to another platform and may continue in the same acts. And they protected their brand by being silent about it and paid him off.

The more Slasher talks the more I believe this is a witch hunt.

@nonyabisness6306

2 күн бұрын

what gets me is that literally everyone on docs team, on twitch's team and on the part of the arbitration court would've had to cover this up. on the one hand i am told to be morally outraged by how bad it is, on the other hand it wasn't bad enough for anyone to come forward or report to police? AND they had to pay disrespect as well??? I straight up don't believe it.

@Gerald-of-Riviera

2 күн бұрын

​@@nonyabisness6306I agree, though sadly Docs statement regarding the whole thing did not help at all imo. I still think there's a ton of shady shit happening but that is definitely a big cause for why many don't believe him.

Two things: First, slasher is clearly unreliable and a grifting lemming Second all of this further vindicates Doc and an even bigger lawsuit will be incoming. The precedent was set with the first lawsuit and twitch employees have violated the terms agreed to in settlement. The damages caused to doc and the ramifications to his character will exceed the settlement of the first lawsuit.

it's safe to say, Slasher doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

To address the access to the logs, in a large company like twitch "staff" can only get access to information that is required for their specific job, basically it's "need to know" or you can all it "need to access". I worked in one department and could see so much client information, however since I went somewhere else I lose the old access to client stuff I had, this new role no long needs that access SO I NO LONGER HAVE IT!!. It is the same at Twitch I assume, if you are not in the department for this you would have never seen the logs, now clearly there is a breach since it got out. It got out because that information needed to pass hands for reporting it legally I assume.

What I don't like about the Dr. Disrespect situation (besides him messaging a minor with him admitting to some of the conversations being inappropriate) is that this was hidden and led to him continuing to enjoy much success. Now that the truth is finally out and the walls are closing in, he runs and hides like a coward yet still trying to talk tough through a message about how he does not give a flip about the haters and that he is not going anywhere. Meanwhile, a lot of his fans are still there fighting to defend him while he is off hiding.

@DoubleBrownieofRage

2 күн бұрын

Doctor disrespect not hiding dude. i think deeply before he damages himself anymore that his lawyers might be working on a case, if there is more the one victim. The rest should've came forward. But so far there isn't anyone else which make me think.. IF he is a "pedo" he would've had a lot more victims. and chat logs from different girls. I Don't think doc going to take this sitting down it take time for someone to recover from this if he truly does.

@samdan7873

2 күн бұрын

Doc has done more for the streaming and gaming community than anyone else. this weak cancellation attempt by clout goblins isnt going to change any of that. hes not hiding, hes sitting back and enjoying the show with popcorn

@GO-GO_SO-SO

2 күн бұрын

@@DoubleBrownieofRage You may be right, but I see going on an "extended vacation" right as stuff was starting to be verified and people were speaking out as hiding. Also, it is not necessarily true that if he was a "pedo" (not the word I would use to describe him. I do not think that the minor was so young that they had not hit puberty yet) that he would have more than one victim. Just like a murderer could have only killed one person, there could be only one person he contacted. Maybe that was his first.

@GO-GO_SO-SO

2 күн бұрын

@@samdan7873 That is true, but that may not mean a thing in the face of stuff like this. It's not like he said a bad word or something. Inappropriate conversations with a minor are heavily, heavily frowned upon by the vast majority of people, even those in the more edgy crowd. That is why he does not have many public defenders. Even his friends are distancing themselves and calling him out. You could be right. Maybe he finds all this amusing and watching people argue. Though, I feel like if that were the case, he would still be streaming and laughing and not taking him and his family off somewhere.

@ChrisSmith-ew9fp

2 күн бұрын

​@@samdan7873 people also don't take into the account. The girl was 17??? California where doc is from legal age is 18... but... 40+ states the age is 16+... Canada is 16 EVERYWHERE. THIS ISNT A 10YR GIRL

Slasher always comes across completely incompetent. Though I guess that's the norm for gaming "journalists", so maybe he isn't so bad? I find it hard to take anything that comes for his mouth seriously though.

The only way this all makes sense to me on top of everything being said is that the victim is some important persons child.

Please send me information so I may also start claiming I am a journalist.

@user-lh7mt7zo7l

7 сағат бұрын

You don't even need information to roleplay as slasher lmao

Still waiting for the supposed bombshell... Is the bombshell that Slasher is a Twitch apologist? He will apparently completely make up laws to justify their conduct.

1 hour discussing if it’s legal to share texts. Destiny checks out and doesn’t even talk. Saved you time.

Does it matter your age she's under 18 this is the same guy that defended Drake for talking to minors this guy should be in jail for his point of vie I'm talking about destiny destiny is it should be banned from the internet I don't trust this guy with my kids

If Doc is worried about the logs coming out he should try exLax

Is this guy trying to win "arrogant, defensive-journo of the year award"? Why so aggressive, Jesus--Destiny is asking questions? Not acting as Dr. Respects attorney...

@BIGHEADjr51

2 күн бұрын

He wants lime light that’s for sure- ambulance chasing approach def

@dillonmorningstar7386

2 күн бұрын

If he wanted the light he would of exposed the story back in 2020

1:39:50 I don't trust Main Stream Media or Gaming Journalist's. I trust actual evidence; not heresy.

@gngr2

4 сағат бұрын

Hearsay?

Someone find the clip of destiny starting the stream with "Alleyways" please!!!

"People have been scouring for information about this for 4 years" Yet somehow slasher gets it within hours of it happening.

Found you from TIMCAST!

@unclehollywoodshouseofther995

2 күн бұрын

Welcome

@4of20

2 күн бұрын

jeez, you survived the civil war and made it here :D

@starlord157

2 күн бұрын

The civil war is apparently unending, so survived is not accurate.

2+ hours of Slasher dodging questions and pivoting. Bro has really learnt nothing these past 3 years. Why is he so afraid of releasing information about a guy who is a child predator? Him and everyone that works at Twitch somehow knows the important details but doesn't want to say them? DrKidInspect must have the ultimate dirt on Twitch and Slasher for them to refuse to speak...

@vortex_1336

2 күн бұрын

Because there is probably something Twitch did that they don't want released. The way that guy was defending Twitch sounds like he's getting paid by them.

@spencerrichmond5845

2 күн бұрын

Doc probably is just the tip of the iceberg, wouldn’t be suprised if this is a daily occurrence over at twitch

@antont4974

2 күн бұрын

​@@vortex_1336no shot he is getting paid

@vortex_1336

2 күн бұрын

@@antont4974 I mean it really kind of sounds like he has some relationship with Twitch the way he was defending them.

@Malum95

2 күн бұрын

I think that was a joke bud​@@vortex_1336

"Nobody was named" is a poor argument as everyone knew who Cody was talking about. It wasn't a defense for Amber Heard's article either.

What is slasher on about?

This is literally 2 hours of nothing burger wtf. Everything is 2 hand source and no one actually knows what’s going on. How could you write a piece with all 2nd hand source????

Release the logs

I really wish one of them had asked Slasher if Twitch should be getting more criticism than it is when you have the CEO, for years, cracking jokes and teehee’ing about Docs ban, considering the severity of the allegations.

You know what slasher was right about not making the first tweet because he has absolutely no idea what hes talking about and every time he opens his mouth he is damaging the case

this guy sounds like a joke.

'Codys awesome what an amazing guy' 'I cant speak to Cody's character'

Dude no one even knows who Bloomberg is anymore. He didn't freak out because of that.

@ 0:53:30 -- "On the record" means you're willing to have something attributed to you. "On _background"_ means you're willing to have the information you share used, but not attributed to you in a way that's readily identifiable.

Slasher confirmed fraud.

"we'll never see the DMs and you shouldn't want to because it would endanger the victim" "how would it endanger the victim?" "uh uh well it's illegal to show a minor's private DMs from a social media app in public" So this journalist just completely contradicted himself and BS'd in public but we're meant to trust his word without seeing the evidence. ok.

I certainly dont agree with destiny on all his points but I do on how does basically covering it up n not letting the public know or other platforms protect the victim. If he was charged with a crime it would have been made public and the victims identity would have been protected.

So this giy lost his career over Doc? Maybe he's not the best choice as an unbiased source making articles.

there is STILL no evidence. If we believe disrespect, he talked to a minor and some comments in that conversation where border on inappropriate. we don't even know who said these things, if they where sexual or racist or whatever. there are only anonymous accusations told second and thirdhand by people with a financial interest in pushing them. the further facts are, in no particular order, twitch settled and paid his contract, no crime was reported to police, twitch had an obligation to report crimes, everyone involved including disrespects wife stayed and said nothing. twitch, against their own self-interest, colluded with an alleged pedo to cover his tracks, to hide crimes and then, even though they could've voided his contract, which they tried, paid him anyways after going through arbitration. in the arbitration court, everyone saw these dm's as well, but also didn't do anything. THOSE ARE INSANE CLAIMS. literally conspiracy tier bullshit.

@nickelakon5369

2 күн бұрын

Couldn't make a better summary myself Literally the only thing that we know for sure is that something fucky is happening

@AspiringDevil

2 күн бұрын

I agree with all but 1 point. It is in Twitch's self interest to resolve this in a way that keeps their name out of the news or cost less money. The route they took is the optimal move assuming they don't care about protecting children or some sense of civic duty. I do think there is definitely something important we don't know yet here.

@GovnaBuckingham

Күн бұрын

We don’t need evidence because doc admitted to it. The only thing up to question is the details.

@user-lh7mt7zo7l

7 сағат бұрын

@@AspiringDevil I think covering up a pdf would be worse pr than publicly admitting they were aware of minors using whispers and they had a lot of pdfs contacting them. Covering for pdfs could literally end the entire company whereas admitting that whispers was used by pdfs would have about the same impact on twitch as discord i.e. bad pr but ultimately people use it anyways mostly uncaring.

@AspiringDevil

4 сағат бұрын

@@user-lh7mt7zo7l maybe but they didn't cover it up they just didn't spread the information around. They have deniability. Now notice I said it's the short sighted view to think this way as a corporation. I'm not agreeing or condoning just noting how they can justify the course of action to themselves.

Show the conversations or STFU. From the past reliability of twitch leaks this whole no water.

@toxicgracie3772

2 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter. Doc already admitted to what he did. The damage is done and there's no margin of sympathy that I, or most people, could round up for that. Even his best little buddy Zlaner said he cant support him

@nonyabisness6306

2 күн бұрын

@@toxicgracie3772 he did not admit to any of this. he said he talked to a minor, with some comments in that convo being inappropriate. he did not say it was sexual, he did not say he made those comments, he did not say he knew the person was a minor.

@Substantial-hf1rm

2 күн бұрын

​​@@nonyabisness6306tf do you think he meant by inappropriate? And if he didn't know it was a minor why didn't he say so? If it was only the minor being inappropriate, why didn't he say that either? Why did he continue contacting after the convo became inappropriate? What you're saying only makes sense if Doc is braindead.

@xeroeddie

2 күн бұрын

​@@nonyabisness6306 Yeah, sorry, everything in that tweet smelled like damage control. Why would he destroy his own career by not stating that he didn't know the age or that it wasn't sexual? He not knowing would help him a lot, so he would've mentioned that.

@ConnoMonroe

2 күн бұрын

@@toxicgracie3772 It does matter because we are trying to evaluate how dawg shit Twitch and Slasher are.

Dan is right about the «on the record» stuff btw